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Author Topic: Confirmation of OU devices and claims  (Read 163365 times)

Offline tinman

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #180 on: November 21, 2017, 05:27:00 AM »
So,the energizer uses two effect to achieve the !claimed! self running machine.

1-the magneto is designed so as it is a high output,low drag generator.

This is achieved in two ways.
1-all the magnets poles have the same pole interacting with all the coils at the same time.
All coils are wound in the same direction,and are half wave rectified,so as current is drawn from the coils as the magnets are leaving the cores of the coils.
The claimed advantage to this is -the magnets can be pulled toward the cores without a magnetic field being produced by the coils,hat would push against the approaching magnets.
This !apparently! added mechanical energy to the system that is not provided by the motor.
Each coil also had a capacitor of the correct value placed across it,to form a tank circuit between coil and cap.

Second effect.

Lead acid batteries must be used in this device.
By pulse charging a LAB with high current pulses,it is claimed that both a magnetic and chemical reaction in the battery would offset any current drawn from the battery by the motor by more than 100%.
It is claimed that the ions in the battery are accelerated to a higher velocity by the high current pulses,than that of what the current draw by the motor would achieve.
The ions are of course flowing in the opposite direction during the high current pulses,to that of the direction they flow during motor on time,which causes the battery to charge at a higher rate than it is being discharged.

These are the claims by the inventer.

There will be those that think they know better,but they will also be the same people that have nothing to offer them self.


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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #180 on: November 21, 2017, 05:27:00 AM »

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #181 on: November 21, 2017, 05:39:26 AM »


There will be those that think they know better,but they will also be the same people that have nothing to offer them self.


Brad

Common Brad. Is poking jabs the intention of this post?  I mean like in the beginning you were so sure that the washing machine motor was a better bet. And you were claiming that the windings in the first depiction had rectifiers on the coils..  Gees man. ER is not in this thread any longer because you could not take the criticism that may have been a bit deserved, maybe? ???

So maybe we all just chill a bit.. 

Mags

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #182 on: November 21, 2017, 05:45:52 AM »
I think you will be pleasantly surprised at some point in the future as to how much ER really does know about this stuff.

I will not elaborate more, but just chill on it a bit and look deeper. You just may see there are more things to this than are seemingly apparent. Im betting on it. Big time. ;)

Mags

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #182 on: November 21, 2017, 05:45:52 AM »
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Offline tinman

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #183 on: November 21, 2017, 06:36:43 AM »
Common Brad. Is poking jabs the intention of this post?  I mean like in the beginning you were so sure that the washing machine motor was a better bet. And you were claiming that the windings in the first depiction had rectifiers on the coils..  Gees man. ER is not in this thread any longer because you could not take the criticism that may have been a bit deserved, maybe? ???

So maybe we all just chill a bit..  d

Mags

After years of experimenting,i bet my left nut that the washing machine motor would make a far more efficient generator than that which Bedini used in his energizer.

If you wish to follow the nothingness that many here have,be my guest.

Regardless of what you think he may think he knows,i will be building the energizer to the specs stated by the inventer him self.

I think-like all those before you,you will be sadly dissapointed as to how much you !dont! get from Erfinder.

While he continues to put me down-as in your new thread,he will get the same back from me-end of story.


Brad

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #184 on: November 21, 2017, 07:16:41 AM »
After years of experimenting,i bet my left nut that the washing machine motor would make a far more efficient generator than that which Bedini used in his energizer.

If you wish to follow the nothingness that many here have,be my guest.

Regardless of what you think he may think he knows,i will be building the energizer to the specs stated by the inventer him self.

I think-like all those before you,you will be sadly dissapointed as to how much you !dont! get from Erfinder.

While he continues to put me down-as in your new thread,he will get the same back from me-end of story.


Brad

Lol   Dang.  Left nut aye?   ok and alrighty then.... How about this.....

You keep your nut and if someone shows that you are way off base with all of your statements above, that you leave this forum for good if it happens? Is that a bet you will take to heart and keep your nutsack intact??   ??? Not that I would like to see that happen really :'( , but Im just wondering if that is how serious you are with your statements.  Is that a bet you are willing to make for real? :-\

For me on all this, as I have said with TK that with soo much negative bias, and even more so by you here, Im thinking you are just putting it all together here for nothing. If you are so against the possibilities, why go through all the trouble to prove what you claim has been proven again and again that there is nothing good to find here? Why choose to even rehash it all? There doesnt seem to be even an inkling of possibility at all coming from you. Thats too bad.

So do you accept the new bet and keep your nuts???? ???

Mags

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #184 on: November 21, 2017, 07:16:41 AM »
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #185 on: November 21, 2017, 07:20:30 AM »
And if you accept, dont include me in this bet.  I didnt lay my nuts on the table. Wouldnt do that for anything in the world. Thats just 'nuts'.  lol

Mags

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #186 on: November 21, 2017, 07:37:20 AM »
These are the claims by the inventer.

Hi Brad. What is the source of this new information on Bedini's setup?

All the best...

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #186 on: November 21, 2017, 07:37:20 AM »
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #187 on: November 21, 2017, 01:49:52 PM »
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I'll make it real simple for you Mag's,as it would seem that you want me gone.

You post a video-along with the full schematic and construction specifications,of a self running/self charging machine,that works as JB claims his dose,and i'll leave this forum the day some one replicates the device,and confirms that it works as claimed by the inventer(other than Erfinder)-->hows that for a deal  :D

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For me on all this, as I have said with TK that with soo much negative bias, and even more so by you here, Im thinking you are just putting it all together here for nothing.

Nope.
Im putting it together for confirmation --one way or the other.
The negativity stems from the countless years of !books of bullshit!,where the Bedini group sell books on false pretenses==that being,it will show the buyer the way to make a free energy device--all the secrets are exposed.
Thats where the negativity comes from Mag's.

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If you are so against the possibilities,

And just where did you get that from?

I think you are mixed up with-->i am against those that come into this thread,claiming that they know it all,but have nothing to show or share--those that claim that things are being done wrong,but cannot provide information as to how to do it right.

My replication will be as stated by the inventor,where clear instructions are given in the book the inventor wrote him self,on the very device being replicated here.

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why go through all the trouble to prove what you claim has been proven again and again that there is nothing good to find here?

I love fishing Mag's.
I never catch anything,but i keep going,in the hope that next time,i will land the big one.

 
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Why choose to even rehash it all? There doesnt seem to be even an inkling of possibility at all coming from you. Thats too bad.

Because i know first hand what can be achieved,and keep looking for an answer to one single question i have regarding one of my own machines--and one which you will be seeing some time in feb-march next year.

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So do you accept the new bet and keep your nuts???? ???

I do,as long as you can provide what i asked for above.

The best way to prove me wrong,is to show what i say dose not exist  ;)
I will be more than happy to leave this forum Mag's,if thats what it takes to bring a free energy device to everyone here.


Brad

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #188 on: November 21, 2017, 02:09:38 PM »
Hi Brad. What is the source of this new information on Bedini's setup?

All the best...

It comes from JBs 1984 book,that is about this device,along with information referred by John from other papers.

Below is a couple of pics with JB and his actual energizers from the early 80's.
As you can see,it is nothing like the one in the schematic posted on this thread.

That schematic was one JB drew up for Jim Watson.
Jim made a few of his own changes,and that is the energizer Jim displayed at the International Tesla conference in Colorado Springs.

If you want to know a more indepth description of this high current pulse charging of lead acid batteries,then here is the link below.
Where as i gave a very basic description of this battery charging effect,this page go's more in depth to what is actually happening !apparently!.

http://www.cheniere.org/misc/battery%20poppers.htm


Brad


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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #188 on: November 21, 2017, 02:09:38 PM »
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #189 on: November 21, 2017, 02:11:22 PM »
And if you accept, dont include me in this bet.  I didnt lay my nuts on the table. Wouldnt do that for anything in the world. Thats just 'nuts'.  lol

Mags

Im nearly 50--dont need me nuts any more :D

Gladly give one up ,so as everyone here could have there own free energy generator. ;)


Brad

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #190 on: November 21, 2017, 04:28:14 PM »
Brad what you are saying is interesting not every one can develop a device from beginning to end and some guys other than your self are manager potential that's OK but this team don't need managers as we are not being paid or funded  ;)

Forum Devotees ;)
Some of the other forums don't know if you have noticed have ether a tram running on tram lines going an outer circle route or a rag and bone man with a blinkered horse doing the same thing but slower asking for any more circuits but the author get the same treatment.

So who will develop a device get it going on his own create his own thread publish it and give it away only to realize he has blown his own security and some other thread devotee doesn't like any humor you slip in and now has the world banging at his door with laymen can't be bothered to build it or fix it ect ect.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #191 on: November 21, 2017, 05:27:24 PM »
It comes from JBs 1984 book,that is about this device,along with information referred by John from other papers.
Below is a couple of pics with JB and his actual energizers from the early 80's.
As you can see,it is nothing like the one in the schematic posted on this thread.
That schematic was one JB drew up for Jim Watson.
Jim made a few of his own changes,and that is the energizer Jim displayed at the International Tesla conference in Colorado Springs.
If you want to know a more indepth description of this high current pulse charging of lead acid batteries,then here is the link below.
Where as i gave a very basic description of this battery charging effect,this page go's more in depth to what is actually happening !apparently!.
http://www.cheniere.org/misc/battery%20poppers.htm
Brad

Hi Brad. I had already read both JB's 1984 book and the info on Tom Bearden's site you referenced.
That's why I commented previously here that at least some of the claimed OU effect is supposed to be related to pulsing the battery
and some supposed effect of resonating the ion movement with the 'vacuum energy' or something like that, based on Tom Bearden's
theories. I was surprised that you said John's own 1984 setup described in his booklet didn't have a separate flywheel, as the picture
included in that JB 1984 booklet shows what appears to be a separate flywheel on JB's device. :) John experimented with a lot of different
setups, and many of his other setups didn't have a separate flywheel. It may not matter if the flywheel is separate
or part of the energizer rotor, if the energizer rotor has enough mass on its own to double as a flywheel.

I'll be interested to see how your JB 1984 device replication attempt performs.
All you can do is replicate as close as you can figure it was built by JB with the info that
is available.  John has mentioned using welding rods to make the soft iron cores in the past, so soft iron
wire or soft iron rod may work about the same. A person has to be practical in part choices otherwise they
may never be able to make any replication attempt. ;D It sounds like what you are constructing should be
reasonably close to what JB did in his 1984 device based on the info that is available.

All the best...


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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #192 on: November 21, 2017, 10:51:15 PM »
Yes John Badini RIP a very clever man one device he disclosed built and gave away and published goes unnoticed by
many but could change many lives if it was really developed and exploited.

Allen

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #193 on: November 21, 2017, 11:42:15 PM »
get away from batteries, Their a waste of time and resources.
The spike won't run the system, it will help.
The only thing that will make it free , is if we use wind and solar.
But keep dreaming.
art v

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #194 on: November 21, 2017, 11:52:39 PM »
Yes John Badini RIP a very clever man one device he disclosed built and gave away and published goes unnoticed by
many but could change many lives if it was really developed and exploited.
Allen

Why not simply state which specific device you are referring to then? ;)

 

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