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Author Topic: Confirmation of OU devices and claims  (Read 288419 times)

Offline a.king21

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1725 on: July 30, 2019, 08:19:37 PM »
Mr. Gear is head of department. He makes the call who gets fired.
It was his decision to look into this. One of many before.
He sends to you both best regards.
He will tell you and others all of this in person but he was moderated because of number of clicks and not real quest of OU. That are his words.
He called Ricks thread bunch of ignorant people without any knowledge.
He means probably you and Rick. But thats only what I think.
Well tell him to look into the 4 Benitez granted patents.  I doubt anyone from his team can understand them.  When you laugh at me and Rick you are laughing at Carlos Benitez and his 4 granted patents.  It is YOU who are ignorant and also the Siemens department.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1725 on: July 30, 2019, 08:19:37 PM »

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1726 on: July 30, 2019, 08:31:15 PM »
Well this is all funny until I rotate my batteries around for years. This was only the basic level of seeing some free energy. Improving the efficiency and also charging batteries or running other loads while you couldn't before. All by just simply adding a diode and load. It is a very simple and effective revelation. You are really interested in suppressing this idea I see, just look at all your postings all of a sudden. Filled a whole page with nothing at all. It really gets under your skin.

Until this morning I did not know that Mr. Gear is R&D Simens. His deparment has 136 employes.
They already this Rick motor test with AC source in the past.
I will not go into details of reactive power, which in Ricks case splits, returning power to battery and motor.
Reactive power returned to motor will increase RPM which results with more output to load which has to be capacitive or inductive. More power to load creates more reactive power and loop is created. It can go to some point.
Sorry, but no OU.
It is better than simple transformer feedback loop but still no OU.
It is replica of big systems of power companies where they use expensive motor/generators for compensation of reactive power and returning power back to grid. More complicated because their generators are AC and phase align is needed for power to be returned to grid.
Rick uses DC battery and simple rectification does do job.

When he saw Ricks video, he laughs and he pointed some things and has banned for that.
He still laughs.

So it is not new thing, power companies use it for a long time.
Rick has to have caps on load to make reactive power.

He said he wish the best to Rick and he has more serious projects to do.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1727 on: July 30, 2019, 09:47:35 PM »
Stefan,

Please, remove moderations from Gear.
I am trying to convince him to help, and he is half willing to do it.
He has army of people and SF tech behind him.
He was maybe rude at the times but he is great asset.

It is not goal to disprove Rick. Goal is to improve what he does if it is possible.
Your choice!

Thanks!

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
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Offline ramset

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1728 on: July 30, 2019, 11:01:42 PM »
If Mr.Gear will help Mr.King work thru his sincere and fervent beliefs.
and post it here...open source ?

yes this would be wonderful...
I would imagine if tempers could be kept in check ?I don't think Mr.Stefan would have an issue ..
if he does not notice the offer by tomorrow ,I will try very hard to let him know..

I have a link which I will add here shortly for Benitez patent [Mr.King's "proof"]
very important to be nice to Mr.King here...and hopefully reciprocity from Mr.King?
No cussing, choke holds ...ear biting [ankles OK] ..eye poking or other cheap moves...a mostly "Gentleman's FE discussion and investigation"!!
below a generic Benitez FE document posted this AM by member Mr.Tito.

http://www.borderlands.de/Links/Free_Energy_Multiplier.pdf

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1729 on: July 30, 2019, 11:34:32 PM »
Well this is all funny until I rotate my batteries around for years. This was only the basic level of seeing some free energy. Improving the efficiency and also charging batteries or running other loads while you couldn't before. All by just simply adding a diode and load. It is a very simple and effective revelation. You are really interested in suppressing this idea I see, just look at all your postings all of a sudden. Filled a whole page with nothing at all. It really gets under your skin.

Yes Rick,

You can feedback and prolong battery discharging.
With usage of reactive power even more than simple feedback.
Nobody is denied that to you.

You made your system , maybe you did not know that power companies does that for long time with their motor/genarator power correction systems.

You did something, but not OU. Sorry to inform you.
Efficient, but not OU.

That does make a difference. You made a effort and did efficient system.
It was never debate about that.

If Mr. Gear will be unmoderated, he will explain in to you with more details.
They made systems like this before, and give up because it is not possible to apply it to mobile phone or small devices Siemens does.
But they use some of that knowledge in their tech to prolong battery life.

Nobody said you did nothing. Anyone who does that much effort is worth.
You should start to work wirh others more experienced than me and develop your tech further.
It has potential.

But your insulting and rude nature has been stoping you till now.
Transient measuring is not for others. It is for you.
To determine true nature of your circuit and how much you can pull from it.

Mr. Void is not telling you fairytale. He is been showing you correct path to make your tech even better.

And you will learn value of true measuring. It is not a joke. I have been through that.
Misslead by myself.
Thanks to great teacher,  if he read this, thanks, I learned to spot my mistakes, save my time and progress faster.
But only trough proper measuring things.
Transient math power measure, ultimate one. No error!

You been on this 15 years, but when I listen somebody who has 30 years of experience in R&D with serious projects then I realize how little I know.
They been research all kind of OU stuff.
Yours is just one of many. And they already tried this, so they know what are you talking about.

Mr. Gear is willing to share their finds as much as he is allowed to.
They found more to it which he cant disclose, and they use it in their products.

That is official statement of Siemens department and his.
Siemens has R&D deparments in lots of countries.

If Mr. Gear will be unmoderated he may tell you more than me.
I can tell you, he is brilliant mind and sharp. Also very temper person.
You know or you dont know for him.
He will cut you in half in a moment.
But also he will share a lot if you listen.

Nobody is against you Rick.
But nobody like your rude nature and god syndrome.

It is up to you. You can work with people or you can be alone!

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1729 on: July 30, 2019, 11:34:32 PM »
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Offline Void

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1730 on: July 31, 2019, 12:13:10 AM »
Really all Rick has to do is follow through with what he claimed in his video, and take the output from
one or more of his coils and use that to try to power his generator circuit in a closed loop. No need for a battery
if you do that. Just charging up a large filter capacitor at the input should work. I think the reason that Rick doesn't
attempt this and instead makes excuses is because, as we all should know, the chances are very high it will not actually
work (not actually COP > 1).

If his setup really is showing a significant COP > 1, as has been implied, then this should be a relatively easy
thing to demonstrate. As I have pointed out, lighting 12V LED lights connected directly to a 12V battery is already
essentially 100% efficiency, so Rick's circuit is pointless unless it produces a COP > 1.

All the best...


Offline hartiberlin

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1731 on: July 31, 2019, 12:44:27 AM »
You are good guy and trust too much. In every circuit you must measure input power and load power.
Otherwise you will be misslead into falxe thing.
I wont go into deep of topic. Lots of guys here done it and saw mistakes.
Nobody here is telling you that as a joke. They also been misslead many times and learned the lesson.
Measure input, output, thats the only way.
Dont trust nobody until you do your measurements.
Most realible measurement is transient one. You must have scope, voltage and current probe and ability to make math on scope.
Every other method sometimes can lead to nowhere.
There is no magic negative power which feeds lots of load. No. You measure how much your load consume. That is correct way.
Always measure! It will also show your mistakes as well!

I dont mean to discourage you.! Always take the measures the proper way!

Sorry to dissapoint you about Rick.

Have you replicated it yourself with the original parts from Rick and replicated it ???
My friend has and has got the same results as Rick ! lol...So far regarding the measurements...You are just a skeptic, that has probably never done any good measurements yourself..
Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
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Offline hartiberlin

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1732 on: July 31, 2019, 12:46:17 AM »
But Stefan, Rick clearly stated :

So he claimed COP > 10 performance between the resonant TX and RX circuits. 

Gyula
So Gyula,even better, then we get 10 times running time out of the batteries ! Yes, that can be possible...My friend will show soon his replication...

Offline Void

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1733 on: July 31, 2019, 12:50:34 AM »
Have you replicated it yourself with the original parts from Rick and replicated it ???
My friend has and has got the same results as Rick ! lol...So far regarding the measurements...You are just a skeptic, that has probably never done any good measurements yourself..
Regards, Stefan.

Hi Stefan. If your friend got the same results as Rick showed, then that is not so good.
Rick did not show anything at all convincing, as has been pointed out already.
Try powering some non-inductive resistors or incandescent bulbs of at least 5 Watts rating,
or better yet self loop it as Rick claimed in one of his videos should work. I would really like to
see an honest attempt by Rick or your friend to self loop the setup. Keep in mind that if I power
12V Lights directly with a 12V battery, that the efficiency is effectively 100%. There is no point to
Rick's circuit if it is not COP > 1.


All the best...

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1734 on: July 31, 2019, 12:53:26 AM »
. You are really interested in suppressing this idea I see, just look at all your postings all of a sudden. Filled a whole page with nothing at all. It really gets under your skin.

I am not suppressing you!

I am encouraging you to measure it properly and tell the world you are right!

They all expect that from you.

And whole world is waiting for you to do that after 115 pages of claims.
So , it is up to you, not on me.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1735 on: July 31, 2019, 12:58:50 AM »
Hi Stefan. If your friend got the same results as Rick showed, then that is not so good.
Rick did not show anything at all convincing, as has been pointed out already.
Try powering some non-inductive resistors or incandescent bulbs of at least 5 Watts rating,
or better yet self loop it as Rick claimed in one of his videos should work. I would really like to
see an honest attempt by Rick or your friend to self loop the setup. Keep in mind that if I power
12V Lights directly with a 12V battery, that the efficiency is effectively 100%. There is no point to
Rick's circuit if it is not COP > 1.


All the best...
benfr,a.king and the Admin adviced about the "special written information in Mr.Friedrichs' his booklet",so not his,RF, videos gives the right way to explore the possible success !

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1736 on: July 31, 2019, 01:01:11 AM »
Hi Stefan. Here is the issue with this.
If I connect a 12V MR16 LED bulb to a 12V battery directly, it will light with an efficiency of 100%,
minus any losses of any internal circuit components which may be inside the bulb itself.
Unless Rick's setup is OU, then it will light 12V LED bulbs with less efficiency than connecting
the bulbs directly to a 12V battery, due to losses in his driver circuit and in the other components in 
his setup.

All the best...
Sure I undertand this, if his LED lights light then only due to the RF bursts only with maybe half of the rated output power,but he can connect several LEDs like 10 x 3 Watts LEDs and they shine at maybe 1.5  Watts each and you can run these LED bulbs for 10 timeslonger on the same battery with his circuit, than a single 3 Watts LED at full 3 Watts output, that would have generated then15 Watts x 10 times longer...

It seems the batteries are required in these circuits as they play an important role, so you just can´t run the circuit just on supercaps...
Maybe the energy is directly converted from inside the battery then...
This is, what we still have to find out...Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1737 on: July 31, 2019, 01:05:45 AM »
benfr,a.king and the Admin adviced about the "special written information in Mr.Friedrichs' his booklet",so not his,RF, videos gives the right way to explore the possible success !

Hi IancaIV. Rick stated in his video that he could take the output from one of the
output coils and use that to power his generator in a self looped mode.
I was merely asking for Rick or someone else to demonstrate this claim made by Rick.
I would suggest using a large filter capacitor instead of battery for the power source so
we don't have to leave the demonstration running for a day or more... ;)

All the best...


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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1738 on: July 31, 2019, 01:09:26 AM »
Stefan,

Please, remove moderations from Gear.
I am trying to convince him to help, and he is half willing to do it.
He has army of people and SF tech behind him.
He was maybe rude at the times but he is great asset.

It is not goal to disprove Rick. Goal is to improve what he does if it is possible.
Your choice!

Thanks!
I am moderating all the skeptics here in this thread now, so I can better answer them...So we have a better understanding... Thanks for your understanding...I don´t wnat the skeptics to ruin this thread...
All the skeptics who now  flame Rick have not shown their own measurements...

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1739 on: July 31, 2019, 01:09:57 AM »
Sure I undertand this, if his LED lights light then only due to the RF bursts only with maybe half of the rated output power,but he can connect several LEDs like 10 x 3 Watts LEDs and they shine at maybe 1.5  Watts each and you can run these LED bulbs for 10 timeslonger on the same battery with his circuit, than a single 3 Watts LED at full 3 Watts output, that would have generated then15 Watts x 10 times longer...

It seems the batteries are required in these circuits as they play an important role, so you just can´t run the circuit just on supercaps...
Maybe the energy is directly converted from inside the battery then...
This is, what we still have to find out...Regards, Stefan.

Hi Stefan. Ok, but speaking from experience, I suspect that the LED lights are
not actually consuming as much power as one might think just looking at them. My suggestion in that case
would be to try it with one to five watt incandescent bulbs or so, assuming you can find something suitable.

P.S. Do you know the exact type of bulbs your friend is testing with?

P.P.S. Here is a link to small 12V, 4 Watt incandescent bulbs, set of 4 pieces (although the title says 1 watt, but it is listed as 4 Watt on the bulb):
(although apparently these particular bulbs are currently not available. It is getting tougher to find this type of bulb now... )
https://www.amazon.com/eTopLighting-T5BULB12V4W-4P-12V-Wedge-Bulb/dp/B0043CMN1U/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=eTopLighting+T5BULB12V4W-4P+12V+1W+T5+Wedge+Bulb&qid=1564528852&s=gateway&sr=8-3

Also see:
https://www.bulbtown.com/Less_Than_1_Watt_s/1015.htm
Here are their 3 watt incandescent bulbs:
https://www.bulbtown.com/3_Watt_s/449.htm

All the best...
 

 

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