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Author Topic: Confirmation of OU devices and claims  (Read 200025 times)

Offline lancaIV

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1650 on: July 28, 2019, 07:36:27 PM »

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1651 on: July 28, 2019, 07:59:56 PM »
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 Tinsel  has shown many times all the ways you can fool people if you were an unscrupulous individual or even at times persons unaware innocent of their measurement error
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Respectfully
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Thanks for the flowers. But... not nearly "all" the ways. Just the ones I know about, have fallen for myself, or can dream up. One thing I do know for sure: someone will always find a new way to fool, or try to fool, someone else for money or fame.

One important thing I have noticed over the years as I've examined various electronic OU claims. Many of them have turned out to be fairly good wireless power _receivers_. I have a number of wireless power transmission systems in my lab, among them the turnkey "Black Box" which is an EM system, quite safe and not interacting with the environment except for powering more-or-less tuned receivers. I always test circuits claimed to be "OU" in some way by exposing them to the emanations of the Black Box. The "Lari-Man Objekt 13" is one such example. It operates perfectly well when near the BB, with no other power source. Ditto some of the Akula and Ruslan circuits. Especially if you gut the electrolytic capacitors and stuff button cell batteries in the cases!
I also have E-field wireless power systems and hybrid RF systems, but these are more dangerous because just about anything in the environment can become a receiver. With sufficient power,  dielectrics like window glass or wallboard can accumulate shockingly large charge patches, conductors like metal shelves start spraying corona, dogs run and hide, et cetera.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1652 on: July 28, 2019, 08:13:28 PM »
Well I would think dogs would run can you imagine the charge they could build up in that fur coat. All right that is my last post today too many beer have a good one.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1653 on: July 28, 2019, 08:34:35 PM »
AKing someday I hope he open sources information that leads to a heretofore
unknown anomaly which withstands all scrutiny and can bring Stefan's mission statement here to fruition .
to help all around the globe ,not just one lab or lifestyle.
Chet K
But he has open sourced everything.  You just have to sit through his videos.  What we could do with is someone to liase with Rick and Hong Kong to produce those multi coilers 10 times cheaper along with his very effective battery rejuvenators. I think that would make a difference.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1654 on: July 28, 2019, 08:46:57 PM »
Hi overcurrent.

I'm pretty sure most of the older hands here cut their teeth on " Bedini " tech.

One member, currently under MODERATION, Hoppy carried out exhaustive battery analysis over a very long period of time, he'd be the one to help answer your question.

I built several motors over the years, one ran for around 3 months, single battery and mechanical commutation with no " apparent " loss. Very efficient but otherwise, useless, as no extra energy could be had without upsetting the fine balance.

Not wishing to deter you in your endeavours, tinkering and a " hands on " approach is a great way to learn about this fascinating subject. Don't forget that there's many here that have already " beaten " this path, quite thoroughly, don't be afraid to ask questions.

Definitely, " Solar " is a good investment, I've just passed the 0.9 MWh in three months!!

Cheers Graham.

Yes, but what Bedini did not tell us (which Rick outed) is that you could have charged several batteries and still ran your motor for three months. That is what he did not want us to know so he had something up his sleeve which he could sell later.
In an oscillatory set up the batteries' ions would potentialize  by voltage only and would self charge.  That is why the ions would keep charging the batteries after switch off. This means that your battery woud increase in voltage after switching off the charging circuit  - which is the opposite of conventional charging.  Also your batteries are charged cold and even colder than ambient in some circumstances.



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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1655 on: July 28, 2019, 08:55:08 PM »
a.king21 :
trusting or not is the question !?

Heater : aequivalent C.O.P. 10
DC electric heater source

   the artificial photon solar cell chamber ,photons emitted by energy saving lamps
Lamps electric source :   

simple generator with coupling Li Yng Tian multi-DC motor transmission

DC motor electricity source :   Henry Trilles power amplifier, first 84 Watt output

Calculated energy cascade C.O.P.:
                      10 ( heater)  x 7,8 ( photo-electric chamber)x 10( mo-gen) x 40 ( Trilles amplifier)
                   ~ C.O.P. 31200 ( thirthy one thousand and two hundred times input/ output ratio)
Mr.Friedensreich is not the only experimenting  !

And the Trilles amplifier energy source :stationary f.e. https://web.archive.org/web/20060206021549/http://www.theverylastpageoftheinternet.com/  Main Menue : Earth energy

Portable : Frank Marhanka battery-cell

The artificial solar chamber : spanish patent office approved and granted
The Li Yng Tyan transmission : U.S. patent office approved and granted
The Trilles power amplifier : french patent office approved and granted

2019 "open source" = fee-/licence free technology
"Stupid= uncommon" ideas ,technical and physical accepted by the patent office peers

But because the "artifial solar chamber" by itself can be cascated ,each stage factor 7,8, from 31200 we can extrapolite the C.O.P. factor theoretically " endless" !
This is actually the global " Technischer Standart"  !
German phonetics: Ai shing thad wif a 31200 teimes Faktor it will bee reallie esilly to ged an " clodet batterie zykle", so thad it kan bi approwet dte " closed thermodynamic cycle".( old german, before Duden-Era)
 
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1656 on: July 28, 2019, 11:39:14 PM »
LancaIV quote  ...2019 "open source" = fee-/licence free technology..end quote...
Where is this and at what cost is free? [fine print ??]
 we would love endless extrapolations of OU 
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1657 on: July 28, 2019, 11:47:30 PM »
admittere( old latin)  : the admittance is free;  no licence and financial compensation for reproduction needed
The "artificial solar light chamber,  ES by Baquero Menendez but based by the german developper Paul Marzahn and his base by Bernd Koehler
LI Yng Tian transmission concept based by an US american pioneer  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garfield_Wood

Triilles amplifier: " cold= resistance-less/free electricity conduction"; using inrush current jump
extreme "cold" electricity : superconduction for high Ampere- conduction and/or storage


Btw:  a light electric vehicle ( Sinclairs C5)with Li Yng drive and Trilles amplifier :
                 world record in efficiency 100 Km with 3 Wh consume( flat road and excluded heating/ cooling ::) )

The Li Yng Tian " hint/drawback/ disadvantage": 13000+ RPM cheap toy motors
this means only 3750 hours bearings work-life ( by 10 Mio.  RPM bearings,  here : bufo. ru coating advice  )3750 hours are for e-vehicles sufficient( 2 hours per day calculation) , not as heat pump drive with 3000 hours and more movement per annum

The artificial light chamber
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20100615&CC=ES&NR=2341161A1&KC=A1#

The transmission:
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19951107&CC=US&NR=5463914A&KC=A#

The power amplifier:
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=8&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19940318&CC=FR&NR=2695768A3&KC=A3#

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1658 on: July 29, 2019, 12:41:14 AM »
Simple free energy mistakes.
1 Getting distracted by bots which lead you away from truth.
2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxzepmaj0yk&feature=youtu.be




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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1659 on: July 29, 2019, 12:56:56 AM »
But he has open sourced everything.  You just have to sit through his videos.  What we could do with is someone to liase with Rick and Hong Kong to produce those multi coilers 10 times cheaper along with his very effective battery rejuvenators. I think that would make a difference.
What is the exact make and model of the LED bulbs RF used in the famous photo? Do they, or do they not, contain the MAX16820 high brightness , dimmable LED controller chip?

Until we have this information, "open sourced everything" is just another misrepresentation.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1660 on: July 29, 2019, 01:00:17 AM »
Simple free energy mistakes.
1 Getting distracted by bots which lead you away from truth.
2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxzepmaj0yk&feature=youtu.be
What, only an _hour_ long video from RF? He's slipping, I expected two hours at least. Can't you just clip out the two or three minutes where he might actually be saying something significant? I seriously have better things to do with my hours than watching Rick's videos. (And so do you, I'll wager.) He really isn't a very entertaining or competent lecturer, and that has nothing to do with his mastery or non-mastery of the subject matter.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1661 on: July 29, 2019, 01:01:53 AM »
a..king: neither I nor you can use freely physical terms :
"free energy" : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibbs_free_energy
           The expression is fully defined  !
"Overunity" is a work process( ambiental joule/ caloric dynamic cycle) definition,  there is not physically defined a power overunity. !

Energy= Anergy + Exergy
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exergy
https://wikidiff.com/anergy/exergy

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1662 on: July 29, 2019, 01:04:42 AM »
Yes, but what Bedini did not tell us (which Rick outed) is that you could have charged several batteries and still ran your motor for three months. That is what he did not want us to know so he had something up his sleeve which he could sell later.
In an oscillatory set up the batteries' ions would potentialize  by voltage only and would self charge.  That is why the ions would keep charging the batteries after switch off. This means that your battery woud increase in voltage after switching off the charging circuit  - which is the opposite of conventional charging.  Also your batteries are charged cold and even colder than ambient in some circumstances.
Feel free to demonstrate. Please don't point to some old video by someone else. Make your own demonstration that illustrates the truth of your claims.

Until you do so, your claims in the above quote have exactly the same credibility as my herd of invisible pink unicorns. I'd be glad to show them to you... but they are invisible, silly. And nothing can be proven over the internet, right, so wild claims can just be made without even trying to make a demonstration. Excuse me, I've got to go feed my unicorns now. I'd make a video... but they are _invisible_, silly.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1663 on: July 29, 2019, 02:02:31 AM »
AKing
Well
It is actually an open invitation here
 there are plenty here who are currious and would help.
Chet





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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1664 on: July 29, 2019, 03:24:22 AM »
AKing
Well
It is actually an open invitation here
 there are plenty here who are currious and would help.
Chet
I make no overunity claims, so there is nothing to discuss..  I am merely pointing out certain matters which are worthy of investigation and have potential for those willing to experiment and add something positive.
When I replicate Kapanadze's aquarium 2 then I will let you know. Until then it is simply a quest to keep an open mind and do some experiments.
Being negative gets us nowhere. May as well get a second job and pay for our energy needs that way.
And anyway my unicorns are hungry and they take some feeding.  Damned expensive those unicorns.

 

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