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Author Topic: Confirmation of OU devices and claims  (Read 198722 times)

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1635 on: July 28, 2019, 05:37:33 AM »
T K  does Bedini:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DbTy8EVaGI[/size]


R F does  Bedini: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXuEeLUMAug&feature=youtu.be


You decide...
That's pretty hilarious all right. Who paid for all that stuff? In the long run it was Bedini's customers, right? And did they get what they paid for? Even Rick will probably agree that they did not.


But I have a whole playlist on the MHOP development, that shows and explains some of its interesting features and how some problems were identified and solved. It ends with the Rotorless MHOP, no moving parts, the No Rotor Motor (except the electrons) .

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLml9VdOeqKa8F1PebS_EX7AX2aA_ZZtb9

And if you are impressed with battery charging pulse motors, I have an Orbette video where I demonstrate the Orbette running on a single AAA battery (that it charged previously) and charging a C battery at the same time.

That is right, the motor is running on a small battery that it charged itself in a previous run, and is charging a larger battery at the same time. So all the energy involved in that almost-closed loop came out of the Orbette itself. Right?

But is it OU? 

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1635 on: July 28, 2019, 05:37:33 AM »

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1636 on: July 28, 2019, 06:03:53 AM »
Hi TinselKoala

I an answered some of my questions by watching your videos but what I sill have for a question is a pulse motor a viable project, will it improve efficiency or rejuvenate a sulfated battery, I guess my question is did you see any gain even if it wasn't overunity thanks.

Let me rephrase the question, if I were a homeowner with solar and a bank of batteries would I see better efficiency if I added a second set of batteries with a pulse motor in between then switching them back and forth or is the investment not worth it thanks.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1637 on: July 28, 2019, 08:02:08 AM »
Well, RF and Bedini before him have made such claims and many people have used or are using systems like that. Some people have also reported that their batteries got ruined after a while and can't be recovered.

I can't say for sure, but I think if you keep your batteries in good condition by using a proper charge controller, any gains you might see from using a second set of batteries and a pulse motor in between are probably too small to be worthwhile if they exist at all, and certainly aren't going to be OverUnity.


But don't let my opinion keep you from running your own experiments.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1637 on: July 28, 2019, 08:02:08 AM »
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1638 on: July 28, 2019, 08:19:35 AM »
Thanks for the reply, I think I will continue to play just I am not going to spend a lot of money on it at this time I am just going to continue acquiring parts for it from scrap such as a floor scrubber I got some parts off this week that way if I don't see gains at least I won't have spent a bunch of money it thanks.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1639 on: July 28, 2019, 12:37:04 PM »
Thanks for the reply, I think I will continue to play just I am not going to spend a lot of money on it at this time I am just going to continue acquiring parts for it from scrap such as a floor scrubber I got some parts off this week that way if I don't see gains at least I won't have spent a bunch of money it thanks.

Hi overcurrent.

I'm pretty sure most of the older hands here cut their teeth on " Bedini " tech.

One member, currently under MODERATION, Hoppy carried out exhaustive battery analysis over a very long period of time, he'd be the one to help answer your question.

I built several motors over the years, one ran for around 3 months, single battery and mechanical commutation with no " apparent " loss. Very efficient but otherwise, useless, as no extra energy could be had without upsetting the fine balance.

Not wishing to deter you in your endeavours, tinkering and a " hands on " approach is a great way to learn about this fascinating subject. Don't forget that there's many here that have already " beaten " this path, quite thoroughly, don't be afraid to ask questions.

Definitely, " Solar " is a good investment, I've just passed the 0.9 MWh in three months!!

Cheers Graham.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1639 on: July 28, 2019, 12:37:04 PM »
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1640 on: July 28, 2019, 02:52:21 PM »
Hint: If my video is in the "alt.snakeoil" category you can be sure that all is not as it seems.    ;)
In this case you may recognize the wireless receiver from other videos where I demonstrate and explain. So even though it is not evident in the video, you could probably bet that a wireless power transmitter is somewhere nearby. Running under water is no trick, even though the water is  normally a short circuit, at high frequencies it has a high impedance so does not affect the lighting of the bulb. The behaviour of the bulb, brightening and dimming, is also a big clue.

Don't worry, if one of my videos isn't in "alt.snakeoil", it is totally legitimate.

No other word than Thanks!

I like your work! And passion towards it!

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1641 on: July 28, 2019, 03:16:00 PM »
still under moderation Huh ?
Gear and others reading here .re: Mr.Koala's movies ,
at all times he invites scrutiny and provides documentation to expedite
the scrutiny of his measurement protocol and results.[itsu works this way too and others here]          There are other times its just for fun and not about any particular Query [or claim] but In my opinion always towards a better understanding of what "might" be possible....as of this writing ...I have never read or seen similar from RF or his mentor..or should I write
Begging scrutiny of a well documented presentation for an energy Audit
Mr.Koala is a Metrologist .and Practices Brutal honesty [the scientific method with 100 % transparency... so none can dispute unless they too show there results and explain ....not just one mans opinion. Chet K .PS I apologize for the bunched up text and lack of sentence structure in my posts at times ...this forum seems to smoosh and rearrange all my text together unless I use another method to post here. I attribute this to Hackers who have boasted here before ,and their stance against open source .

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1642 on: July 28, 2019, 03:30:13 PM »
Hi overcurrent.

I'm pretty sure most of the older hands here cut their teeth on " Bedini " tech.

One member, currently under MODERATION, Hoppy carried out exhaustive battery analysis over a very long period of time, he'd be the one to help answer your question.

I built several motors over the years, one ran for around 3 months, single battery and mechanical commutation with no " apparent " loss. Very efficient but otherwise, useless, as no extra energy could be had without upsetting the fine balance.

Not wishing to deter you in your endeavours, tinkering and a " hands on " approach is a great way to learn about this fascinating subject. Don't forget that there's many here that have already " beaten " this path, quite thoroughly, don't be afraid to ask questions.

Definitely, " Solar " is a good investment, I've just passed the 0.9 MWh in three months!!

Cheers Graham.
0,9 MWh  ::) : 20 sqm solarpanels with 10% average conversion efficiency  ?
900 KWh / 30,5 days( month) /3(months period) / 0,5 KWh ( daily max.  per sqm by 10% eff.) ~ 20 sqm
actual solar panels industrial price - fob Ningbo factory, in bulk- : 480 US$ for 20 x 133 Wp  8)


I spoke 3 weeks before with an engineer( Ex- Phillips development center employee in Liverpool and later Paris;with many international publications  ,working actually  as docent/Prof
for the Uni Braga) ) about silicon solar panels.

He said this technology will become " dead" ! ( I do not think so, disagree!)
 In development " graphene thermionic cells", calculated R.O.I. time : 3 years  ;) ( okay: 60% eff.  :) )

The Dr.Reichelt( G.D.R. development)  graphit heat-electric cell ( from 1982 )with 80% conversion eff. was him not unknown.
European research cluster : University Aveiro/ PT.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1643 on: July 28, 2019, 03:54:11 PM »
Hi IancaIv

I am off topic here but I must ask seeings I just did a project investigation recently on a solar project. The proposal I got from a few different installer companies was 1.1 million dollars with a 300,000.00 dollar rebate and it came to a ROI of 13 years which you can imagine it didn't management long to shoot that proposal down because they are looking for a three year payback maybe 5 if it looks good in the publics eye so is there a website where I can keep an eye on this technology I would definitely look into it with that kind of payback thanks.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1643 on: July 28, 2019, 03:54:11 PM »
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1644 on: July 28, 2019, 03:54:49 PM »
LancalV
 Nobody throws away a perfectly good horse .
 And that will probably make all the other panels  out there much less expensive to obtain and still very useful .
Here I must add !!


 A few faces may be new here to some members .
Poynt and Vortex 1 (ion at other forums)


These fellows and others here, have drastically  moved the bar up for the talent in this
 Open source venue.
Spending tremendous amounts of time teaching and explaining how to take proper measurements to get good results and also how to present your findings so as to be understood by the largest group of readers.
TinselKoala having dedicated tons of time and effort making teaching videos
And they hunt to for this elusive beast ...which some claim to have cornered but will not share
 Open source ,
and yes they are very suspicious knowing all the Ways errors can be made ...unknown attachments to mains or grid voltage ..Unknown feedback loops  from equipment ...actually supplying the energy unbeknownst to the claimant ...Or Ground loops as a source to main grid voltage or couple to mains voltage and create scenarios where the energy is harvested and unknown methods ?? capacitive coupling ???
or other sources of energy which have nothing to do with OU .


 Tinsel  has shown many times all the ways you can fool people if you were an unscrupulous individual or even at times persons unaware innocent of their measurement error
 If open sourced... those results would be revealed as the  measurements Error they are ( only referring to errors made unaware here ) .
And make the experimenter the wiser and the community too
and make us all better at this task ,the hunt for Free energy.
 
Respectfully
Chet
« Last Edit: July 28, 2019, 07:08:33 PM by ramset »

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1645 on: July 28, 2019, 04:01:03 PM »
(Upps, Chet,,Pardon moi! )
overcurrent , you used ! the "solar technology" barrier : INSTALLER
The common investor has under this condition to pay up to 3-5 US$ per Wp "installed" !
Between- fob factory- and - installed on tect- are the 900% margins !
Beside China :
look for solar cell producer prices from Turkey( the Lira decrease is the international buyer the advantage)
And no,it is not tread theme off-topic : in the Reichelt paper there is a given example for an OU concept !
Dr. Helmut Reichelt was not a " nobody" , he was the east - german estatal " energetic institute" administration director !

And I wrote : the 3 years R.O.I.  "graphene thermionic cell " is in DEVELOPMENT, this means that the market entry will be soonest in 2-5 years  !

Question : https://www.google.com/search?q=alvin+marks+solar+cell&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m
his 1 US$/sqm ( 1984 production costs calculation for double network cell ,1/2 year life-time minimum)

75% eff.  each layer overlapped : 56,25% average efficiency per sqm area

Selling each sqm at the beginning for 10 US$ and later decreasing prices would mean that we would have been in the 90' in the 3 US$ cents/ KWh range !
3 cents/KWh  before or wthout estatal subsidiaries !
why no company did followed his development and brought cheap solar/ photonic conversion devices to market ?1984 + 20 years granted patent saved time : since 2004 there is not an argument to use legally and fee-free this technology !
There is not really an interest for falling energy prices and autonomous living !
As "Project developper" with fast R.O.I. intention probably of interest :
https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=11175
https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=12841
« Last Edit: July 28, 2019, 06:38:54 PM by lancaIV »

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1646 on: July 28, 2019, 06:49:02 PM »
Hi lancanaIV

Thanks for the info you have given me a lot to look into however it is Sunday and I have had too many beers at the moment to be serious I did like the video thanks and cheers have a good day thanks.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1647 on: July 28, 2019, 07:07:31 PM »
Cheers !  ;) Salute, Skol, Prosit,......

The generation next in energy conversion devices : rectenna/ nantenna
http://www.graphene-nownano.manchester.ac.uk/our-research/examples-of-current-projects/energy-and-plasmonic-applications/graphene-nanodevices-for-energy-harvesting/
The Reichelt cell was 1982 the first THz- resonator ( electrothermic/ thermoelectric)  device. !

Many vids theme related :
https://www.google.com/search?q=YouTube+rectenna&client=firefox-b-m&oq=YouTube+rectenna&gs_l=mobile-heirloom-serp.3...3464.12544.0.13386.37.23.0.1.1.0.0.0..0.0....0...1c..34.mobile-heirloom-serp..36.1.60.DoRoG4Ivtyk
f. e. : https://genesisnanotech.wordpress.com/2016/04/07/solar-cells-will-be-made-obsolete-by-3d-rectennas-aiming-at-40-to-90-efficiency/
                1/10 the cost of conventional solar cells, target : 40% broad/90% specific wave energy conversion
                  2019 Georgia Tech efficiency level?

Does Prof. Ikeda actually work in his 2011 development and improves liability :
https://www.greenoptimistic.com/green-ferrite-solar-cell-japan-20110920/

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1648 on: July 28, 2019, 07:08:37 PM »
What's your point?


Even if the equipment in Rick's video was his own (which it isn't), and he was in his own lab (which he isn't), so what?


Again, what is your point? It seems as though your only interest here is to discredit anyone who does not consider Rick to be their hero, as you apparently do.


Surely you're not trying to compare TK's and Rick's knowledge and abilities in these realms? If you are, that's laughable.


Rather than trying to discredit others for their fine work, I would suggest you present your own work that supports your hero. Otherwise, knock off the nonsense please.
He is not my hero.  I understand his open sourcing information - it has been very helpful to me and I suspect to others who do not wish to get bogged down in the sarcasm and potential vitriol from those who disagree with comments on this forum.
As for who's equipment it was - I do not know. I suspect it was in Rick's lab, but it's a guess.  It does have Rick's label on the equipment.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #1649 on: July 28, 2019, 07:30:08 PM »
AKing someday I hope he open sources information that leads to a heretofore
unknown anomaly which withstands all scrutiny and can bring Stefan's mission statement here to fruition .
to help all around the globe ,not just one lab or lifestyle.
Chet K

 

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