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Pumping overunity...
« on: November 28, 2006, 05:20:21 AM »
...if you take a look at   http://www.veljikomilkovic.com/OscilacijeEng.html   Europe,Tesla's country again...there is a very smart man.There you can find a short description ,drawings,images of an original device that asks for a small input,to supply a greater output...that usuall y is accepted as "overunity".You can develop this "starting point"(the pairs "anvil-massive lever" and lever-pendulum) in a lot of ways(mechanical,electo-mechanical...) ,from toys to industrial products.In the beginning,it's a game only,but one "new" and utilitarian.All the Bests!/Alex

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Re: Pumping overunity...
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2006, 07:12:18 AM »
...sorry about the wrong "spelling".So,the correct web site is     www.veljkomilkovic.com/OscilacijeEng.html     All the Bests!/Alex

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Re: Pumping overunity...
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2006, 08:19:01 PM »
Hi Alex,

Many thanks for the nice link to Milkovic, I have not been aware of it yet, unfortunately.  The double oscillator with the pendulum is a great idea. Maybe at the pendulum site an electromagnet could be placed and pulsed at times to supply the pendulum loss and this supply would come from a generator driven by the other side (the stronger one) of the lever...  just to show the capability of this idea.

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Re: Pumping overunity...
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Re: Pumping overunity...
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2006, 01:30:23 AM »
Hi Gyulasun!  Really..."that lot of ways(...electromechanical...)from toys to industrial products"...are imaginable.You can hammer a shape,or you can oscillate a field ,with this new lever-pendulum system.The anvil becomes a fixed winding magnet,the lever pass into a mobile magnet.So, can we have an electro-gravific oscillator?The input is pendulum:a little push.The output is at the winding wire.Input/output=?! All the Bests!/Alex

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Re: Pumping overunity...
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2006, 10:05:16 AM »
i think, is shure that all mechanical and elektric PM/FE
Machines will work on this "concept" that give
the "base" of understanding alt this phenomena.(Sorry if somes is wrong spelled)  Pese
« Last Edit: November 29, 2006, 03:52:24 PM by pese »

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Re: Pumping overunity...
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2006, 09:50:42 PM »
Hi Pese!You are from Germany?If so, I recommend you,to take a look at   www.evert.de/eft730e.htm    Prof.Evert is involved in this kind of phenomena.You can learn a lot of things from this address,that you can'not find on other sites,so I think.Prof. Milkovic discovered a simple way to collect swinging power of a pendular movement in gravity and inertia ,that manifersts on a fulcrum:an elementary free weighing system.Something alike,the easiness to operate of the so old shadoof,you can see yet in the poor world....It seems to me,that we have here, a mechanical oscillatory problem ,in a full and open view,in the same time and place, acting in "basic" inertia(v=const.) and potential "flow" of gravity(g=const.).In two words:a "set free" phenomenon,as in electronics...but this time WE CAN SEE IT.Can be , this Milkovic's , "one pendulum-one lever" double swinging arrangement,an interesting ,possible "door" that opens before us ,regarding mechanical oscillatory phenomena?The main point in electronics is oscillation.We know a lot in electronics .But how about a  "know how transfer " in mechanics?Let's hope we are on the way.All the Bests!/Alex

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« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2006, 10:09:20 PM »
Hello, thanks. I know these sides (I did not see the 730e yet.)
 ll these sides, without ?e? are in German readable.
I have occasionally with Prof.Evert Mailkontakt.
Straight one with this principle is to be understood more and explainable, what also on Bessler (and the USA construction of 1800) like further mechanically also still working FE machines (Don Martin) represent.
These adding frequencies the such forces construct are probably also in electrical and magnetic ranges conceivable
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Re: Pumping overunity...
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2006, 06:05:35 AM »
Hi Pese! Prof Evert has a big site(see "mapsite"),not only in german language.You can find  also   www.evert.de/eft377e.htm   regarding Wurth's eccenter swing system,a certain pendular arrangement,that seems to "spark" seldom "overunity".It has a problem:owerpower is out of hand.On my site,I think that there is a solution.Anyway, Prof Evert made a great job,I like it.I was an electronic engineer...but now,I try to understand physics(mechanics,gravity,inertia...   and those so long time "dream" machines) in my way.It's a real adventure when you can imagine and then draw on paper something that can "enter" into life.Sure,not many of them:many things easy to design,prove hard to perform.All the Bests!/Alex

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Re: Pumping overunity...
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2006, 10:55:13 AM »
www.evert.de/eft377e.htm
all links are without the "e".htm  in GERMAN
www.evert.de/eft377.htm

Prof Evert bring only hit ideas , thinking (also possibly errors)
trough the public . Tothing ist finished !
Any guy can take it , think about this , and possibly "do something with it" .
Please give Attention of "described inventors" as Clem an Don Martin.
From both i reading years ago more that is shonwn at -evert.de-.
this are true inventions (one surpressed) the other : Not to reconstruct because the "prinip of the true running mashine" is unknow ! You can also think about this ...
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Re: Pumping overunity...
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2006, 11:11:08 PM »
Hi Gustav! We are about the same age(I am 62).I made a very short visit to your site(Freie energie und mehr...).I need some time to "encompass" it:it's large and so interesting.By the way ,mine(   www.geocities.com/iacob_alex/Stellarotor.htm   ),is smaller,but with a similar topic,so I believe.Regarding Prof Evert,I agree with you,but I like his explanatoty manner,more,it has a kind of "Wagnerian" language.as you said :you can take it,think about and do something...as in school.Prof Milkovic's (from Serbia)  site,if you know,is so interesting also(   www.veljkomilkovic.com/OscilacijeEng.html  ):he had the amazing idea to weight the pendular motion,in the most simple way,and discovered a kind of  phanthom ,called "overunity".The problem,as I see it,is that the pendular world is huge,we must explore it:mathematics is "afraid"(has no "tools",because of nonlinearity ),so we must go in the old "style",by hand.Gustav,glad to meet you,on the net.All the Bests!/Alex

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« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2006, 11:31:27 PM »
 
  i know . Prof Evert is theroretical , mathematic an physical
first TOP . But somes it is to do in practice now.

@alex.
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(More for you by: PM)

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Re: Pumping overunity...
« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2006, 12:23:06 AM »
Hi Pese!Yes ,I agree with you,but Prof Evert is your "Wagner" in  Mecanics,on net,so it seems to me.Nothing new,because "Deutschland Uber Alles" in Mecanics,does  not it so?You know the steelyard,as a weighing machine,a static's  operation.But how can we "measure", in a simple way,a dynamic's process,let's say a swinging,pendular motion?In my opinion,Prof Milkovic made it,with his pendular lever:it's a kind of "dynamic steelyard", a measuring balance of a free pendular motion in gravity(due to...) and inertia,in the same time.It can be an inviting starting point for ,as you said "Freie Energie und mehr...".Really ,as a simple   curiosity,I think to put my designs on a such "estimator".We are not poor enough,if we can still laugh...it's the tonic medicine of life.All the Bests!/Alex

 

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