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Author Topic: The Old Standard Ignition System. Battery. Coil. Points. And Condenser....  (Read 25367 times)

Offline Magluvin

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Re: The Old Standard Ignition System. Battery. Coil. Points. And Condenser....
« Reply #210 on: November 07, 2017, 01:44:22 PM »
There is a box I want to try soon that has a 3rd tuned chamber that is a separate enclosure with just 1 port into another ported chamber. This one is new to me this year. Im hoping on it adding gain also. Ill be making 4 boxes for comparison. 1 sealed, 1 ported, 1 dual chamber and the forth a ported with the extra ported chamber.

But I think this is good. Now that I know that your doing the same but with circuitry, this will be a more interesting venture to add other examples for more understanding.


Well, It was a productive talk for me. Thanks

Been finishing some vape hukah handles last night and now for an 8hr shift.  Then sleeps.

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Re: The Old Standard Ignition System. Battery. Coil. Points. And Condenser....
« Reply #211 on: November 07, 2017, 06:36:05 PM »
What is wrong with you people. Supposed that this is a hobby which gives you pleasure!!!
Tinman :D You know that you are also erfinder's follower...don't you??? Each time he participates to a thread you are always there. You just haven't realize it yet.. ;D

guys..."...currents of a special character..." Have you ever noticed that Tesla's description??? Does that mean something to anyone?

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Re: The Old Standard Ignition System. Battery. Coil. Points. And Condenser....
« Reply #212 on: November 07, 2017, 08:21:06 PM »
My take on this is that he speaks about displacement current. When a voltage potential difference between two metals changes in time,  an accompanied "special" current manifests.


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Re: The Old Standard Ignition System. Battery. Coil. Points. And Condenser....
« Reply #212 on: November 07, 2017, 08:21:06 PM »
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Re: The Old Standard Ignition System. Battery. Coil. Points. And Condenser....
« Reply #213 on: November 07, 2017, 11:56:58 PM »
What is wrong with you people. Supposed that this is a hobby which gives you pleasure!!!
Tinman :D You know that you are also erfinder's follower...don't you??? Each time he participates to a thread you are always there. You just haven't realize it yet.. ;D



Perhaps you should go back and read the thread again--see who was participating in this thread first,and then get back to me  ::)

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guys..."...currents of a special character..." Have you ever noticed that Tesla's description??? Does that mean something to anyone?

Yes
It means that you dont know that it is the electric field that gives rise to an EMF,and not the magnetic field.

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Re: The Old Standard Ignition System. Battery. Coil. Points. And Condenser....
« Reply #214 on: November 08, 2017, 09:11:47 AM »
Perhaps you should go back and read the thread again--see who was participating in this thread first,and then get back to me  ::)

AAhh this bad boy!!! :D :D

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It means that you dont know that it is the electric field that gives rise to an EMF,and not the magnetic field.

Thanks Tinman. Even i didn't speak about emf

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Re: The Old Standard Ignition System. Battery. Coil. Points. And Condenser....
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Re: The Old Standard Ignition System. Battery. Coil. Points. And Condenser....
« Reply #215 on: November 08, 2017, 09:23:55 AM »

It's my opinion that Tesla informed us what this "current of special character" was.....  he was very specific....


@jeg


we were informed to take this discussion to the energy amplification thread....we should respect Mag's wishes...

It can stay here.  The initial discussion is over and this seems to be a continuance of resonance ideas. 

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Re: The Old Standard Ignition System. Battery. Coil. Points. And Condenser....
« Reply #216 on: November 08, 2017, 01:06:43 PM »
[/font]superimposition.....integrating the dis-integrated....  that's the path I follow...  This isn't the thread for discussing this further...
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Is there an appropriate thread that you’d like to elaborate further on this rectangular wave concept?  I am very curious...


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Re: The Old Standard Ignition System. Battery. Coil. Points. And Condenser....
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Re: The Old Standard Ignition System. Battery. Coil. Points. And Condenser....
« Reply #217 on: November 09, 2017, 04:45:01 AM »


Thanks Tinman. Even i didn't speak about emf

That is my point.

You spoke about displacement current,and yet you cant seem to associate it with the electric field.

What is !displacement! current,and what gives rise to it?.

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Re: The Old Standard Ignition System. Battery. Coil. Points. And Condenser....
« Reply #218 on: November 09, 2017, 10:13:27 AM »
That is my point.

You spoke about displacement current,and yet you cant seem to associate it with the electric field.

What is !displacement! current,and what gives rise to it?.

That is the Tinman i used to know.. ;)

When i mentioned magnetic field i was thinking about the flux which is moving in a perpendicular manner to displacement direction. The flux which rotates over the capacitor's plates. Then i changed my statement by writing the cause which is the voltage change across the cap as you say. If you go back you will see it as i guess you missed that statement. But again, this was only an assumption of mine about what makes them so special. But after some digestion of what has been said in this thread, seems  that "special currents are special because they carry an almost infinite number of harmonics around the fundamendal. What i miss is the mechanism behind this synthesis which is the responsible for the energy amplification effect.
Thanks for the possitive contribution.



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Re: The Old Standard Ignition System. Battery. Coil. Points. And Condenser....
« Reply #218 on: November 09, 2017, 10:13:27 AM »
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Re: The Old Standard Ignition System. Battery. Coil. Points. And Condenser....
« Reply #219 on: November 09, 2017, 10:59:58 AM »
That is the Tinman i used to know.. ;)

When i mentioned magnetic field i was thinking about the flux which is moving in a perpendicular manner to displacement direction. The flux which rotates over the capacitor's plates. Then i changed my statement by writing the cause which is the voltage change across the cap as you say. If you go back you will see it as i guess you missed that statement. But again, this was only an assumption of mine about what makes them so special. But after some digestion of what has been said in this thread, seems  that "special currents are special because they carry an almost infinite number of harmonics around the fundamendal. What i miss is the mechanism behind this synthesis which is the responsible for the energy amplification effect.
Thanks for the possitive contribution.

Lets just slow down there Jeg,as we are yet to see any proof of energy amplification-->and in no way,shape,or form,is Erfinder's mumbo jumbo any proof of any sort of energy amplification.

Lets look at it this way
There have been !how many! people working on Tesla's patents,for !how many! years now,and with equipment and components that far exceed anything Tesla had to work with,and yet,to date,not one device shown to amplify energy--no OU seen anywhere.

There are those that keep on insisting that Tesla had hidden far more than he gave,or made things he did not actually make--like OU devices.

There are those that claim to understand some form of hidden meanings behind Tesla's work,and writings-->they are the very same people that will show or tell you nothing,but more so keep stringing you along,with endless/senseless babble--sound like some one you know?.

Did the thought ever cross your mind that Tesla's Ozone device is just that--an Ozone producing machine.

An easy test

If you think some one knows what there talking about,and has the answers to all these mythical Tesla free energy machines--just ask them for proof--a video,or even a schematic to said OU device.
Ask them for P/in and P/out measurements--see what happens  ;D

What im saying is this-->
You are a member of a forum called OverUinty dot com
We are here in search of,and research toward OU devices,and so,if you cannot provide the above,you clearly do not belong here.


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Re: The Old Standard Ignition System. Battery. Coil. Points. And Condenser....
« Reply #220 on: November 09, 2017, 12:11:54 PM »
If i didn't know your backround i would definately assume that you are trying to hide the truth from the people. But i know that it is just a strong made up opinion of yours which just can not move from its place. The fact that the last 100 years all the Tesla coil builders are dumping their caps to a primary producing high frequency sinus oscillations means nothing to me. Sorry mate but i think that it is time to move on! I took my path, keep yours as it is if you know it is right and everything will go fine. Just try to understand that Overunity.com is a place of exchanging ideas, and not a place to demonstrate who has it bigger.

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Re: The Old Standard Ignition System. Battery. Coil. Points. And Condenser....
« Reply #221 on: November 09, 2017, 12:37:20 PM »
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How about you demonstrate how my "mumbo jumbo" isn't in any way, shape or form proof of energy amplification..... thats right, you cant..... I didn't give you enough to copy and paste.....pathetic...

I dont have to.
Your doing a great job ya self  :D

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and we, I, will continue insisting that Tesla hid more than he gave, and suggest that he made things that you lack the ability to comprehend?  The ignorant are motivated by dreams of OU.....

Or your delusional .
Your lack of proofs seems to back that up.

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yep...I claim to understand something you don't about Tesla's work and writings....  guilty...I tell you nothing, I show you nothing......   :'(  me a river....

I was thinking more--throwing you off the bridge.

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yep...  thankfully I am not you and can see more than just an ozone producing machine....

Oh ,im sure you see a lot of things-->like dragons in the kitchen perhaps?

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when this info is provided....what usually happens is you show up, and perform a piss poor replication, we then watch in disgust how you systematically infect and rot the concept from the inside out, after this mind screw..... those who stuck around to watch you do your worst walk away from the discussion and never look back

Well,it would seem that my work has taken me further than you will ever get.

I think what you mean to say is--you show up,and prove me wrong.

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, you were schooled well...  you have a history, and a trail of dead ends....

And yet,have still taught more to others than you ever will.

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You have the balls to say I string people along.... how many epic fails have you suckered your following into replicating.... not a single one of those projects was ever brought to completion.....

Making judgement on only what !you! can see on the forums.

How about we take one of my !failures! and put it up against your best?

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  how many times have you failed the community, and finially failed yourself.....

Not so many actually--oh,thats finally BTW--only 1 i

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Over unity....  it's a bullshit name, especially since no one has ever demonstrated UNITY..... you are at the top of the list.  Clearly, you don't belong here...  you wanna erase this post

Hell no,this post can stay for sure,as it just pointed out how little you know.

Quote: especially since no one has ever demonstrated UNITY

Gee,ya hit the jackpot there cobba,as every device runs at unity.

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I think its better if we don't communicate....

Well stop with all your Tesla horse shit,and how you have unraveled the wholly Tesla grail.

If you had actually done so,then you would not be here,trying to peddle your rubbish.
But as you are still here,and babble on about nothing,trying to turn something into something it is not,and continue to jump on threads that i am involved in--and try to peddle your rubbish further,then i will be staying in touch.

But i'll make you a deal  ;D
Show just one of your tesla devices producing excess energy,and you wont hear from me again.

There--thats a deal im sure many others would like you to take up.

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Re: The Old Standard Ignition System. Battery. Coil. Points. And Condenser....
« Reply #222 on: November 09, 2017, 12:51:23 PM »
That is my point.

You spoke about displacement current,and yet you cant seem to associate it with the electric field.

What is !displacement! current,and what gives rise to it?.


Just a little contribution to you know what is displacement current if you don't know ....
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0ByZY5hj0h0hXMHFOOHdyT29rZDg

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Re: The Old Standard Ignition System. Battery. Coil. Points. And Condenser....
« Reply #223 on: November 09, 2017, 12:56:03 PM »
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If i didn't know your backround i would definately assume that you are trying to hide the truth from the people.

Are you talking to me or Erfinder?
If me,then i have shared everything i have done open source-with the exception of only 1

 
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But i know that it is just a strong made up opinion of yours which just can not move from its place.

After many years,you become aware of what is truth,and what is just talk.
My opinion is very easily moved. All you have to do,is provide third party approved evidence and measurements , that your device delivers more power than it consumes.

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Sorry mate but i think that it is time to move on! I took my path, keep yours as it is if you know it is right and everything will go fine.

Could not agree more Jeg--follow your own path,and learn the truth on the bench--never rely on others words to choose your path for you.

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Just try to understand that Overunity.com is a place of exchanging ideas, and not a place to demonstrate who has it bigger

Yes,and 9 times out of 10,it works very well.
But you see,some time ago,Erfinder called my Rotary Transformer an abomination,and that just did not sit well with me. He gets like that with things he cannot understand,or fears that which he knows not. 

Then you will see,as you did on this thread,he just pops in,and starts babbling on about Tesla devices. Dose not matter what you were talking about,he just changes it to Tesla related stuff,thinking he knows all  ::)
But here he is,some many years later--still babbling on about tesla secrets.
And many years later,no one has been able to put together anything related to Erfinders babble--thats a fact.


Brad

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Re: The Old Standard Ignition System. Battery. Coil. Points. And Condenser....
« Reply #224 on: November 09, 2017, 01:59:47 PM »


  you have a history, and a trail of dead ends....  You have the balls to say I string people along.... how many epic fails have you suckered your following into replicating.... not a single one of those projects was ever brought to completion.....  how many times have you failed the community, and finially failed yourself..... 



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvf9Uo7UVx0&t=2s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lbL9ztaX1Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-8LaQHZzF8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Mbp1iuB7as

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7Fxr3OP1sU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HwUuPQn2W8&index=63&list=FLsLiBC2cL5GsZGLcj2rm-4w

The list go's on,including that which you cannot see,nor are a part of.

Then there is the pulse motor build off's
2012,2013,2014,2015,
Where my self and Russ spent many hours putting them altogether,providing prizes at our own cost-along with the donated prizes.

So,i think i have done quite a bit,when it comes  to helping other's,and others have done a lot to help me.

 

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