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## New theories about free energy systems => Understanding OverUnity => Topic started by: lltfdaniel1 on October 08, 2017, 07:41:49 PM

Title: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 08, 2017, 07:41:49 PM
To viewers,

Let's all stick with what we know, you know the heat pump extracts energy from the environment so this is possible with electric, gravity, etc you name it right???

right???

So my point is that the heat pump is ultimately proven to extract heat or cool from the enviroment giving it a cop above 1 and you could close the loop so it fully runs with the extracted energy with some to spare to power a load, right???

I would love to understand how to do this with electric, magnet, gravity why because as you know it energy is utter so if a heat pump can do this then you can do it with gravity magnets electric circuit etc,

My two pence.

Daniel.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 08, 2017, 07:44:34 PM
So let's stick with what we know and be successful,

This isn't perpetual motion what so ever, so this dream of over unity still is possible because the heat pump in your fridge etc extracts energy from the environment.

This is also called fuel less and self running which can be misleading because it extracts energy from the enviroment which is heat or cold but you see my point that this is ultimately is possible thanks to the proven heat pump, you can do this with the heat pump.

There is no limit as to how much energy you extract.

After many years people i think have been treating it as perpetual motion and really i don't think there is a bomb shell in progression in free energy, so lets stick with the heat pump as an ultimate example and lets apply it to gravity, electric circuits, magnets, and the like and it really would work fine because the proven heat pump says so.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 08, 2017, 07:54:24 PM
People try to replicate treating it as perpetual motion and are clueless as to how these devices work, so for your sake look at the heat pump and start from there, it is proven and you have no danger as in scams etc.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 08, 2017, 08:05:31 PM
A heat pump is in your fridge and is the best free energy extraction process that i know of.

So why have other scientists failed to see this?

Why isn't there any more products like this?

Either way the heat pump gets around about a cop of 3.

Could be suppression but i don't know.

Either way no one here will be able to discredit argue or disagree with me with my posts about the heat pump.

Is it because of the efficiency factor? i know electric circuits will be more efficient then the heat pump if you did the heat pump method translated into an electric circuit.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 08, 2017, 08:15:13 PM
AT the very least this can be used as an energy saver, because of the extracted energy being added to the circuit which isn't achieving a cop above 1 though but you are saving money on energy though that is for sure/certain.

Or at the very best being used to run off the extracted energy while the extracted energy has energy to spare for a load whilst running entirely off the extracted energy, which is called self running and isn't perpetual motion, like a solar panel me thinks because the energy is extracted.

Just making my self clear as possible and there are no magic tricks going on here folks.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: profitis on October 08, 2017, 08:33:17 PM
"AT the very least this can be used as an energy saver,
because of the extracted energy being added to the
circuit"

Yet I gota massive shock from this circuit >:(

"which isn't achieving a cop above 1 though but"

You gota be shitting me.this whole idea is a breeder for cops
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 08, 2017, 08:42:00 PM
It is fully is possible, i think your inexperienced in dealing with such things.

Yes that is the point an idea for the cops, just ranting really.

Have fun

Dan.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: forest on October 08, 2017, 08:54:23 PM
every dynamo and ac generator is OU device
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 08, 2017, 09:02:18 PM
Energy extraction from ac generator and dynamo then,

If you did the heat pump method with a magnet set up it will spin with torque but energy has to come from somewhere so the magnets will degrade over time in strength which goes with the established methods of science.

Either way it will cost you little as too how much times you have to replace parts.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: forest on October 08, 2017, 09:39:55 PM
every dynamo and ac generator is OU device if you find a way to avoid friction forces[/size]
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 08, 2017, 09:53:14 PM
every dynamo and ac generator is OU device if you find a way to avoid friction forces[/size]

Excuse me it will run even with friction, fiction does not matter with a ou machine.

There is a no friction involved in the process so you do not need worry.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: forest on October 08, 2017, 10:00:33 PM
generators do not produce electricity in the way everybody think - magnetic field is the source not mechanical force
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 08, 2017, 10:03:20 PM
generators do not produce electricity in the way everybody think - magnetic field is the source not mechanical force

I agree wholeheartedly.

Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 10, 2017, 09:01:36 PM
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Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 10, 2017, 09:03:31 PM
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/cavitationheaters.htm
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 10, 2017, 09:51:53 PM
Okay so the driving force is the cavity,

I need a physics book about the cavity...

Why because it is the driving force where you get torque to power it self and a load at same time via energy extraction only, like a solar panel with no limit as too how much you extract.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 11, 2017, 10:58:51 AM
And especially centrifugal force.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 11, 2017, 11:10:32 AM
This video explains the force well enough.

Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 11, 2017, 11:23:47 AM
I wonder, my idea is this, attach a stirling engine to a heat pump and get the stirling to drive a ac motor or any other device that gives you electric power, and use the power to run the heat pump.

I know their are stirling with heat pumps around but i just wanted to do that.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 11, 2017, 02:23:47 PM
As well as the electron spin.

Best bet is the electron spin it's self.

If you want a magnet motor to do work then it resides with the electron spin translated into magnets.

There are different types of electron spin, one is counter emf and it will spin all day but has no useful power.

What kind of electron spins are there i mean if you look at the electron spins of zpe you can see very clearly that it is unbalanced and this is where you get the power to run it's self as well as a load because unbalanced force gives you power/torque in a motor.

So yea looking at the electron spin regarding the earths electron spin you can see an unbalanced force in it from the link below.

Green arrows point to the unbalanced electron spin this is where the earths torque/power lies to do work like powering a load whilst running regarding the link below this sentence.

https://ibb.co/iG5RRG (https://ibb.co/iG5RRG)

So yea clearly that electron spin regarding the link above is unbalanced all by it's self electron spins are vital to get a self running motor.

I'd copy the earths one and start from there as well.

If you did that then it will behave like the earth it will be at a constant speed like with cemf electron spin but this has an unbalanced electron spin where the true power lies to power something or whatever so usual cemf speed but with an unbalanced force so it will spin the same yet powering a load because of that unbalanced spin in the earth copied to your device.

Any case we already know the earth can give us electric power if we extract it from the earth so thanks to that unbalanced spin we get extracted energy from the earth.

Compare the earths principles to a device i think this is the real best deal so yeah simple enough.

Hope you get my point.

Here is another picture showing you an unbalanced electron spin regarding mercury same with link above with green arrows.

Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 11, 2017, 03:05:05 PM
What you can do is tap the earths electric spin field which is unbalanced the unbalanced spin and volia!

This has to emulate the earth it self with the device and then tap into the earth and now you have power.

We all know how to extract energy from the earth so you will need a accumulator so the incoming energy gets stronger and stronger due to current electric draw because the earth gives you little power to begin with so with this little power from the earth we use accumulator to suck in more and more energy this is because it is already tapping into the earths energy field so the thing that causes it to suck a more larger amount of energy comes from this little energy from the earth.

So we use this little energy to attract even more energy with no end in sight and the earth which has it's unbalanced spin so it will keep on running with real power and torque so yea thanks to its unbalanced electron spin, unlike a cemf electron spin this is a different breed.

due to the earths unbalanced electron field an accumulator will behave as i stated by sucking ever more energy from the energy we already harvested from the earth so it will be self starting then.

Not radio waves if it says 7.8 hz then it certainly is coming from the earth.

The energy comes from the earth so yea people will say it is perpetual motion but it isnt and wonder where this work/power/torque is coming from and that is coming from the earths unbalanced electron spin.

So yeah first off the earth's electric so to speak and then get an antenna to tap this electric and it will be a low amount and then use some accumulator to cause it to suck even more energy out of the earths atmosphere by using all the electric you already got from the earth so it will be closed loop since it will suck even more energy in from earth and the very thing causing this to happen is you guess it the unbalanced field of the earth which is most important and this sucking process just attracts more energy from the earth because in simple physics negative follows positive so it will work because you are using the earths main engine the unbalanced electron spin, and it will work because it is already proven regarding the main engine of unbalcned force is in the earth it self and if it wasn't the earth would stop working spinning in fact because if the spin was balanced like everyone knows it will be at best a cemf electron spin where it spins but you cannot use the power, whereas the earth has real power in the instant the unbalanced spin it has is where it is at so thanks to this we can use electric from the earth with torque to power a load.

Simple enough what i typed here will work.

So yea use all of the extracted energy from earth to power it self so it extracts a never ending stream of power as it attracts more and more ions.

Proven because positive sucks in way more negative in an unbalanced fashion because the earth has those unbalanced force.

if the earth didnt have those unbalanced electron  spin the earth will stop spinning so the torque comes from the unbalanced electron spin and you can use/emulate the unbalanced nature of this and there you go free power.

people build a magnet motor which follows the balanced electron spin so the magnet motor will spin as that with no power/torque so use earth instead with its unbalanced force and call it a day.

So all in all using the earths power/torque to power the device it using to extract ever more.

from
https://peswiki.com/os:calloway-magnet-motor

Theory

Index of scientific modeling and supporting documentation to describe the physics of the process.

Harnessing Electron Spin

Robert H. Calloway said: "It is actually harnessing electron spin that drives these engines." He also said: "The magnetic gate is the holy grail to a successful magnet engine."

So yea when u extract the energy from earth the positive and negative it's self will be unbalanced as it auto tunes to the earth it self.

Maybe use a rectifier?

Something like this > https://www.nuenergy.org/prentice-electrical-power-accumulator-patent/

Using the extracted power to power the antenna that drags in ions from the sky like an amplifier.

There are some antennas shaped like a can which can reach miles in the sky to drag the positive ions i think from the sky.

I think using the ions alone with there attraction and repulsion will be used instead of normal electric powering an antenna that way it will work.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 11, 2017, 06:43:30 PM
With some kind of bridge rectifier.

Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 11, 2017, 07:02:58 PM
Out of all I said about energy from earth it will not work but demonstrate the driving force which needs finding and other methods to work fully though and I see it will fully work.  Methods that use the unbalanced force of the earth so it is like an invisible motor. Maybe some switching technique but I do not know but passively having it run without switching as the earth already does that for you. I see it like this it is like a badly optimization motor regarding the unbalanced force of the earth regarding what I have said, it jolts with power and then stops so it needs tuneing so there is full power coming in. There are different ways of controlling this invisible unbalanced earth motor so it will speed up or down with real power. The earth already has its own speed controller otherwise the earth would spin faster or slower with real power.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 11, 2017, 07:42:23 PM
I am dead correct about the earth having real power other wise wind turbines etc from the earth wouldn't work so simple enough. Especially with the unbalanced force which it where it all stems from. I would love to know the centrifugal force about the earth's unbalanced power that I am on about so it is easier to work out how to get this vision of mine to work fully.i view it as this the earth has its own control panel regarding the unbalanced force you know to speed up or down regarding the earth's rotation andnthus can also be done in a devices tapping into the earth's unbalanced power.

Thereticly this will work in reality for one the heat pump has no limit in how much it extract same with the earth's unbalanced electron spin but is not perpetual motion but the force it self is like that though so I repeat it isn't perpetual motion.

I can see the device working with power at a constant rpm speed regarding the earth motor.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 11, 2017, 08:12:31 PM
All done by the way the earth does it.By emulating the way the earth's does it.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 11, 2017, 08:21:42 PM
So yea with virtual invisible motors and stators like that patent you will also have an invisible unbalanced motor as well to use that is so it is included.I think it is possible that whoever uses my idea will eventually succeed. It needs a partical accelerator for it to be unbalanced with the energy that is ions so it will be a power draw with that you know my ion attraction regarding electrical current flow so positive is unbalanced with partical accelerator so it gets bigger and bigger. Like with electric positive follows negative so with the particle accelerator it will work as I stated so it is self powering like an amplifier but with natural ions. As have said so you know what I am on about.using partical accelerator to attract ions from sky so it self powers grabbing energy with no end in sight. With particle accelerator it is now possible to attract even more ions using then ions to do the job with no end in sight as it the particle accelerator is self powered by ions it already has even if it little power regarding ions it will work in that fashion.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 11, 2017, 08:37:44 PM
That is the heart of the process partical accelerator. Get that to use little energy to attract even more energy in unbalanced factor.

So yea we get milli amps of power from the earth, all you have to do is use a particle accelerator and have it designed so it uses this little power to attract even more ions so it can be called an ion electric pump.

The speed gets bigger and bigger that is what we need and the partical accelerator delivers on this one with more and more ions more and more current and volts sucking it all in.

The amount of ions determines the extraction speed thus is controlled in this way and has to go with the flow of ions being extracted so it is now possible to use this method because you couldn't do it with a normal electric circuit but with this overcomes that limitation.

The particle accelerator needs to be modified to work in this manner and I can see it will work.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 11, 2017, 09:24:48 PM
The particle accelerator goes with the flow of ions being extracted and also over comes the limitations of using extracted ions as source. So this particle accelerator bypass this problem and you can't do it with a normal circuit but with partical accelerator you can. Needs to be a modified particle accelerator so the extraction is and will be unbalanced. How well am using single current to fully overcome that. Because the partical accelerator controls how fast you extract which is what I need. With this idea of mine which is extracted ions using ions to power the particle accelerator to get even more ions and you cannot control extraction speed with normal parts.Other wise it will be too slow and is clear it won't work.

You can use particle accelerator for speed extraction as well it has the speed to be fast enough with switching. Instead of transistors the particle accelerator blows that out of water.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 11, 2017, 09:46:00 PM
Why particle accelerator well it is to do with a orderly fashion of self oscillator regards the particle accelerator extraction speed and be controlled with an unbalanced flow of energy.

You can't control it like that with a normal circuit, if it is too slow it will miss on ions being extracted.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 11, 2017, 09:53:55 PM
It's th the inerea of particle accelerator makes things like extraction much better among other things.

It can be used to have bigger range of distance as well to extract like miles up in the sky finger more ions etc.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 11, 2017, 10:08:57 PM
So in essence you get more energy from an atom when it is going through a particle accelerator.

It spins and kicks alot faster meaning more energy is being given at the cost of energy being accelerated.

if this spins and kicks getting faster and faster in an unbalanced way then that is good.

Any ways these 'Kicks' are needed in zpe extraction so you could use particle accelerator to get the fast enough kicks done this way.

i think every time the atom kicks it will cause vibrations that tap into zero point energy.

So yea regarding bedini sg motor he goes on about those kicks ;-) to extract energy that is

What do you guys think this is like the exact energy exciter i need.

Its like giving those ions a kick up the back side and thus gives more energy so yea

I think the particle accelerator is unbalanced i think particle accelerator is key to energy extraction for sure.

So yea every over unity experimenter knowing their kicks are too slow for real energy extraction so i recommend an particle accelerator speeds the kicks up and voila.

Yep i found my holy grail every time those ions spin get bigger thus the extraction process gets faster and faster with no end in sight !with attraction or repelling

I call the particle accelerator a true amplifier.

Since i was on about electron spin being unbalanced or not what about electron spin going faster with the particle accelerator?

until you break the spin threshold then what happens?

If my beloved particle accelerator being powered by ions and there is a driving force then the atoms should get faster done via the ion it's self without external power, using extracted energy and then powering the device to give even faster spin with no end in sight.

It will overcome the bottle neck as in how to extract even more energy so it is self sustaining with power left over to power a load.

So yea electron spin, if there is an unbalanced driving force then this will work other wise it will be in limbo like a cemf magnet motor spinning (magnet motors go along with the electron spin) and not being able to power anything as it has no torque or the power whatever.

But there is an unbalanced force in the earth where magic happens so yeah

I now believe that all the inventions everything we have been looking for was in a particle accelerator all along.

What is a particle accelerator?

A particle accelerator is a machine that accelerates elementary particles, such as electrons or protons, to very high energies. On a basic level, particle accelerators produce beams of charged particles that can be used for a variety of research purposes. There are two basic types of particle accelerators: linear accelerators and circular accelerators. Linear accelerators propel particles along a linear, or straight, beam line. Circular accelerators propel particles around a circular track. Linear accelerators are used for fixed-target experiments, whereas circular accelerators can be used for both colliding beam and fixed target experiments.

from https://energy.gov/articles/how-particle-accelerators-work
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 12, 2017, 05:18:13 PM
So all i need is a particle accelerator type of antenna.

Not sure but particle accelerators give off a beam going up miles or something, wonder if i could get more positive ions that way.

I can see the particle accelerator antenna will need a special circuit so it will not burn out.

As well as a constant stream of lightning hitting the antenna all the time.

Getting around about 800-1000 watts of usable power.

Not sure how much power you would get with lightning hitting the antenna but should be way more than 800 watts- 1kw

Push pull apply to this as well, but have said there is indeed a unbalanced force for you to exploit in this to get usable power with torque.

The only thing is it has to be designed to work of this unbalanced power with power and torque.

Everything i have said is backed up with proof from the science community mainstream even and even the energy particle accelerator.

Since this particle accelerator antenna has a beam that will reach the ionosphere with tons of positive ions from the ground are saves you having to have the wire in a balloon filled with helium.

The particle accelerator antenna will get stronger and stronger and stronger in power/strength/signal until it is big enough to suck ions from the ionosphere with it's beam, so you start off with milli amps of power and use the milli amps of power to power the antenna so it is amplified so in turn gets even more ions and thus repeats the process over and over again but mind you the process of the particle acclertator causes the atom spin too get stronger and stronger and stronger and faster and faster and faster spin as well so this causes an induction effect to suck in ever more energy.

You cannot do that with a normal antenna only a particle accelerator antenna.

Only thing that needs to be worked out is the earths unbalanced field where the real power is, if i were to have it as the same as the earth it will spin at a normal constant rpm with torque.

Electron spin so if you were to copy the electron spin with magnets, designed for magnets the magnet motor will indeed spin like an electron spin but have no useful power and that is ultimate is proven with no tricks, but the earth has an unbalanced electron spin which is critical as to get power.

I need to point out that it will still work with friction before you say no friction is needed for it to work, there is no friction in the process so it will work, even with that friction

All in all the particle accelerator is accelerating the unbalanced force of the earth where real power lies so there.

So if you do it like that then the input and output will be unbalanced which is what you want because you are simply tapping into the earths own unbalanced field and emulating the earth like invisible stators and the like, the same with that patent i published so yea it will be self running with the extracted energy and powering the extraction process with the extracted energy and energy to spare to power a load as well from the extraction process with real power.

The earth is already to be used in this fashion, instead of trying to get an unbalanced force with a magnet motor like everyone on every free energy forum trys to do, just use the earth instead and succeed which is why i was on about calling it a day.

And don't forget about the particle accelerator antenna that is the heart of it.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 12, 2017, 08:00:24 PM
https://ibb.co/moDh1G (https://ibb.co/moDh1G) a picture showing the earths electron spin which is unbalanced clearly.

As have said in my other posts it bears real torque power you need a particle accelerator antenna to get the most out of the earth, if you did that spin in a motor it will spin with constant rpm with power/torque so there.

If it wasn't for that unbalanced spin the earth would have no power torque but it does thanks to that unbalanced spin.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 12, 2017, 08:28:57 PM
So yea regarding the particle accelerator antenna,

It has to have a circuit exploiting the jolts of power so you get a continuous amount of power that will match the earth's precisely with constant rpm with power/torque

The jolts of power lasts like a micro fraction and has to be tuned but don't know how.

Other wise you have to have a circuit exploiting the jolts of power so it can capture the jolt of power every time it happens.

The jolts of power come from the earths unbalanced electron spin.

It is like an electric motor wanting to take off with power that is what i call jolt of power but cuts off so the motor doesn't take off but you know the potential energy is there to be tapped with tapping methods of the circuit done in the particle accelerator antenna so you get this energy in the circuit.

Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 12, 2017, 08:42:28 PM
So for the switching effect to tap the energy you are going to have to configure the particle accelerator antenna to do this and will work exactly like that like a self oscillator.

I know the particle accelerator has the ability to do switching effect so it can in actual fact tap into the energy but has to work with a circuit on that one in conjunction with that.

I think you can do the switching internally done via the atom i think via the particle energy rectifier.

Yep the tapping method to be done with the particle energy rectifier The rectifier with built-in current sensor for fast turn-off is designed for the operation of electromagnetic devices. which is what we need.

http://www.kendrion.com/industrial/ids/en/products/rectifiers-energy-saving-modules/standard-line-intelligent-flexible-rectifiers.html

It has to be a modified particle energy rectifier for this to work with the tapping method.

Like the same with the partical accelerator antenna.

A bridge rectifier is critical for energy extraction to occur as well and there are different breeds of bridge rectifier it is needed with the partical  accelerator antenna.

This bridge rectifier is the controller for the energy particle accelerator antenna and somewhere in the process will be able to tap the atoms i think to extract energy.

Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 12, 2017, 09:28:39 PM
Because of lenz law it has to be tapped. Unless the earth has its own process to overcome lens law I don't know.

I think the earth does bypass lens law and the speed of particle accelerator speeds up the process as to how fast it will naturally extract energy.

I need this natural process to be known to exploit it.

To auto tap the energy done by earth's natural method with self oscillator and to take advantage of this.

The tapping will be done with the particle accelerator antenna.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 12, 2017, 10:24:46 PM
No tricks this is possible.

I am after a continuous amount of energy as in power done by the earth regarding continuous  rpm with power torque by limited by the earth so the earth does all the work as in bypassing lenz etc or get some rectifier to amplify the energy i am no longer speaking in layman's terms heh.

Also i need a circuit that is designed to take advantage of the earths power/torque regarding those spins other wise you need to tap the energy but i want the earth to do that though so i don't have to bother and will work again.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 12, 2017, 10:29:54 PM
Maybe an earth stator coupled with the particle accelerator antenna.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 12, 2017, 10:40:16 PM
Like this using extracted energy to power the energy extraction process with power to spare that is what i want in a circuit regarding all i have said so there is no limit but lenz law will be there biting into that prospect.

So yea i want to do that after all i said regarding the particle accelerator antenna and the like and i think it is possible because the earth is wired for it and needs to be designed for the earth as in its limitation of power the earth actually gives in regarding it spins and also me saying it will be limited rpm with power as have said but i want to extract like the heat pump but with this energy from the earth to extract without end but there will be limitations and i think the earth it self will limit that as well.

That is all.

Using the earths own torque/power to power even more extracted energy without end, i think is doable.

Whoever uses these ideas will succeed out of my posts
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 13, 2017, 09:13:34 AM
So yeah the energy extraction has to be unbalanced and the.earth has this process built in all you have to do is tap it.

You have got to find the earth's way of overcoming lens law for it to be unbalanced as well as the circuit you will be using.

Maybe an open circuit using the earth doing this unbalanced work.

Cold circuit well that is the earth's own built in method so you don't have to work that one out.

Instead of it getting hotter it will go the opposite it will get colder instead of getting hot like the same with mostly all electronic circuits for this to work with the unbalanced force of the earth.

A conventional circuit will kill the unbalanced force coming from the earth that is.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 13, 2017, 09:48:45 AM
I can see a rod in the ground with the entire circuit drawing in power that is unbalanced and is causing the circuit to get colder and colder this is extracting energy as have said in my other posts and is accomplished and now the circuit has the unbalanced force or power or torque to do work.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 13, 2017, 09:49:28 AM
From solely all work being done by the earth.

The earth has this cold process regarding giving your circuit getting colder not hotter.

I can see that it is cutting off the process because it wants to get hotter and hotter. The earth has its built in cold circuit so you tap into this cold circuit of the earth.

Simply copy the earth method and in any case with it getting colder it has bypass the limitations to get it to run off the extracted energy and using extracted energy to power the extraction process with energy to spare from the extracted energy.

Some thing about a double vortex the earth has them so yea double vortex to tapping into the earth's own cold circuit of double vortex  but am not sure about this, I need proof.

Something like two rods to take advantage of the double vortex so that is unbalanced

A parallel circuit is key to all of this as well so design a parallel circuit so that the current draw is unbalanced to give real power regarding all I have said I now know that to accomplish my idea is done with a parallel circuit.

I think I am wrong.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 13, 2017, 10:47:35 AM
I can see with a parallel circuit it will overcome all limitations as to what I need in this earth circuit.

I know that if you want to overcome lens law then it has to be a parallel circuit.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 13, 2017, 11:00:45 AM
Yes the parallel circuit is where it is at. Instead of tapping use a parallel circuit.

I think you need to configure the parallel circuit so it doesn't kill the unbalanced force so you will have power for sure and but makes sense to me that this is accomplished with a parallel circuit.

So yea it won't kill the process  that will make the circuit cold.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 13, 2017, 11:19:46 AM
In fact the parallel circuit is critical for this to work

After all the post ideas etc i now know the last piece of the jig saw is a parallel path circuit, it will extract energy within the parallel path circuit whilst overcoming lenz law and have said there is indeed a driving force in the earth that does real work so it will work in that fashion.

It will be an open circuit regarding the parallel circuit so it can do it's magic to make this a reality.

So yea a particle accelerator antenna so it self- amplify it self to suck in ever more ions/energy and then the parallel path circuit to overcome lenz law limitations so all obstacles are out of the way leaving you with extracted energy and a bridge rectifier i think that's most of the parts.

So using extracted energy to power the energy extraction process with power to spare.

So this energy is free to return back to the earth and thus you have completed the process, as in getting this device to run of extracted energy self powering it self with energy to spare so there and i can't stress enough the earth has an unbalanced electron spin so that means it will work in that fashion.

So no more jolts of power no need to tap it just use a parallel circuit instead so it will be a constant jolt of power.

Regarding parallel path as there is different breed of parallel path i mean this translated into a circuit with the link below this sentence.

https://peswiki.com/article:joe-flynns-parallel-path-magnetic-technology----by-tim-harwood

The methods of over coming lenz will be in that link.

Well i know it is possible to get what i need that is for sure even though that is about magnet motors.

I think this link here is more up my street > https://pesn.com/archive/2006/03/05/9600243_Bearden_MEG_Flynn/index.html

All in all i need a modified parallel path circuit extractor like the antenna which i call the particle accelerator antenna.

Principle of the parallel path will be there i just need a mainstream science one to overcome this i think exists somewhere like the same way i found about the particle accelerator.

Actually what i am looking for was this all along > https://www.homemade-circuits.com/2014/02/can-parallel-path-magnetic-technology.html yea what i was looking for you see that magnet has 4 units of strength this is unbalanced and would work nice with my earth circuit and especially the particle accelerator antenna.

Clearly that is extracting magnet energy so what i need is for it to attract ion energy and is parallel so it will return the energy back to the earth without cutting it off i think, well basic principle but i think it needs to be modified with this idea.

Yet i think this conflicts with my idea about the particle accelerator antenna.

Well with the particle accelerator there is 1 path but i need 2 so it is double so it over comes lenz law and all of these limitations.

Correct me if i am wrong but am getting brain dead here.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 13, 2017, 12:34:13 PM
Maybe a quadropal transformer to separate the forces?

I need to separate the forces to accomplish this as a.alternative.

Like bus lanes but it will  return energy back to earth and need s to be modified and can see that it most certainly will work.

It taps faster and faster thanks to the particle accelerator antenna.

With inter exchangeing the energy so energy can communicate with each other so the process works.

And have it where it taps into energy automatically with the interchange of energy and the interexchange can automatically tap into the energy.

The bus lanes will be transformers and with this method I can see it will bypass lens law

The exchange method can in actual fact do that regarding automatically tapping the energy.

With the I terexchange of energy and communication you can in fact manipulate the energy field to work towards your advantage with this method.

The natural dis burst of the atom is the same as tapping into energy you know like switching to capture the energy. And to manipulate the field to give you more of that.

so the natural dis burst of the atom is accelerated thanks to the particle accelerator antenna and the whole thing has potential to take off with real power/torque and it will need some tuning as the dis burst of the atom will be very slow due to the earths resonance of 7.8hz.

The dis burst of atom is exactly that regarding tapping with switching to capture the energy but this is different but same effect.

You know circuits that tapp into the energy regarding bypassing lenz law in a circuit like an avalanche and have called them jolts of power/torque in previous post so yea it doesn't take off because of lenz law.

So now you are extracting energy with no limit it wont be enough to self run using the extracted energy to power the extraction process but clearly see a threshold where it most certainly will.

The threshold is where all the magic happens a self runner thanks to running off extracted energy and energy to spare just have to make sure it wont implode in your face, this implode is why it will make the circuit go colder and colder.

your going to have to make a circuit where it doesn't implode in your face and work at same time.

I'd study why it gets colder and colder regarding the circuit and thinking out side of the box as to why and if you know why all your circuits will be getting colder and colder and have successfully mastered the art of energy extraction so it self runs with power to spare which is all done solely by extracted energy with power to spare for a load so it works like a solar panel.

In physics this is exactly what will happen and is the holy grail it self, i'd look at how the earth has it's own coldness within its own earthen circuit to start with.

I don't know how to over come limitations with the circuit and thresholds so it doesn't implode in your face but someone with a working brain will know what to do., it would be translated into a circuit and work and isn't perpetual motion but the force is like that just running solely off extracted energy with power to spare for a load so this is indeed is unbalanced.

i need to know how to make the circuit compatible because it runs hot which is one opposite and the other is cold so it runs in harmony when it switches from hot to cold.

So if you want a motor running off extracted energy powering the extracted energy with extracted energy with power to spare for a load i am afraid to say the circuit has to be cold getting colder for the extraction process to be complete.

So if you don't know how to get the colder and colder in a circuit, just copy and emulate the earths own colder and colder circuit which definitely is present in the earth.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 13, 2017, 04:08:19 PM
Anyways i have no doubt that someone would have succeeding having over unity purely from extracted energy whilst being powered by that extracted energy with power to spare for a load.

So yea would be able to modify all my ideas so you reader can extract power.

So yeah a simple circuit with partical accelerator antenna of both ends i think, anyways getting power from the earth is already proven just use that power from the earth to get even more power until you have a cop above 1 using the partical accelerator and powering it with the extracted energy it will accelerate the amount of extraction power you have got as well as accelerating its distance to capture ions as well so it will be in the ionosphere where there is a dense amount of ions to extract from.

I didn't know what it was called but wanted it and yep the partical accelerator antenna will allow you to tap right in the ionosphere with ease.

I am using theatrical physics to prove my point.

A Static powered particle accelerator antenna would be lovely, then convert the static electric into dc electric.

Looking at this https://peswiki.com/directory:atmospheric-electrostatic-energy we can indeed convert static power into usable power, i wonder if all the inventors ever thought about using a static powered partical accelerator antenna, would love to ask them and recommend it to them all.

The particle accelerator is the only thing that i know of that excites the process of energy extraction, like a runaway train going down hill faster and faster whilst being self-powered, it would easily achieve over unity.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 13, 2017, 05:41:59 PM
http://www.ph.surrey.ac.uk/partphys/chapter4/ElectroAcc.html (http://www.ph.surrey.ac.uk/partphys/chapter4/ElectroAcc.html)

Something like it but isn't a static powered particle accelerator antenna.

The static powered particle accelerator excites the extraction process with a train always going down hill by tapping into the earths ionosphere.

I want someone who reads this to make a static powered particle accelerator too taps the ionosphere of the earth!

That way you get a ton of electrostatic power.

In my theory about the static powered particle accelerator beam gets longer and to somehow use this particle beam to suck in electrons/static/ions/whatever.[/size]

I think in physics you can indeed suck in energy doing it via this method.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RF_antenna_ion_source (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RF_antenna_ion_source)

to extract via the beam is by putting something in the beam it self i think something that acts as a mirror like a magnifying lens.

Every time the particle accelerator slams into something it gives energy or it takes energy so yeah.

So when it captures energy this way you relay it to power the accelerator it self.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 13, 2017, 06:59:35 PM
The antenna needs to be small enough because you will get some milliamp of power from static so the antenna functions.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 13, 2017, 07:05:26 PM
Because the earth's RF has very long waves of Hertz it will take time for the antenna to catch up to use the earth's power to its fullest regarding real power torque.

The antenna has to be positive only using one wire connection and through one wire is all the positive static with no negative.

And on other end single wire negative only from the ground.

Like a spark gap but consistent regarding the antenna extraction which I think would be ideal because that effect causes it to harvest energy or potentially regarding different energy's that we are not tapping.

Regarding dissipation it could spark or ignite the process

It would cause it to swing like a pendulum with momentum as well as causing vibrations and these vibrations by them selfs are unbalanced so it would have real power/torque there as well which is banging on energy extraction door saying let me in i am of the cold variant not hot. Simply using the earth's unbalanced electron spin translated into the pendulum swing via gravity and extracting energy via gravity as well.

so if you know how to cause these vibrations and how to tap them like a spark gap then you stand a much better chance.

So if you cause vibrations with the earth circuit then it would work.

Not sure about anything else because it the earth circuit needs that unbalanced electron spin to vibrate like that unless i am mistaken.

All of these phenomenon and problems are really ladders to  energy extraction which can never work in a hot circuit, only cold because it is evident that it is implosion not explosion that is if you want it to self run done by energy extracted to power it self and a load.

Like cavity's, cashmir effect etc. Water hammer maybe electric discharge.these effects have real momentum of power and torque as well as fissures.

http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2012/jul/18/physicists-solve-casimir-conundrum (http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2012/jul/18/physicists-solve-casimir-conundrum)
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 13, 2017, 09:14:53 PM
Some may want me to be pointed to a magnet induction motor that is much more efficient when compared to an electric motor with use of switches and parallel path techniques.

I seem to think even with this method the magnet will slowly degrade in strength over time but yes you will get a cop over 1 with this method no doubt so that leaves me the question, where is the energy coming from???

I seem to think it is the magnets alone but i could be solely be mistaken.

Yes i can see very clearly that these magnet motors with parallel path technology will most certainly give you a cop above 1 so for a magnet motor this is great news, i tried to ignore it but yeah.

right i have been told it is the driving force regarding the overunity magnet motor and i can understand that perfectly well and yes there is real power torque in the process of the magnet motor giving you a cop above 1.

Somewhere there is an unbalanced force in the magnet motor i need that to be defined clearly, so i know the bigger picture as to where it is getting its energy from.

I know am brain dead but yeah, the design of the magnet motor does not need unbalanced stators, just apply a electric force in a parallel manner and that will give you or should a cop above 1 with switching effect so in effect it is extracting energy and that can self run the magnet motor with that extracted energy with energy to spare over, if there is a real driving force then it would do that.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 13, 2017, 09:52:27 PM
I have worked out regarding the magnet motor it won't get cold it isn't an open circuit thus it won't run of its extracted energy .
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 13, 2017, 10:02:21 PM
If the magnet motor is open then you will be able to extract power from the environment for sure and if you reach the threshold it will turn into implosion where the circuit gets colder not hot
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 13, 2017, 10:21:45 PM
I need to know how to do a cold circuit and how to transition it to a hot circuit.

Inter exchange of energy between them both so it won't implode or explode between the two circuits.when they reach the threshold.

I am confident there is a well known process for this to make it a reality.

If they know how to stop it expoldeing then the mirror equivalent is?

Need to know more about the cold energy which makes the circuit get colder and colder.

Why because it is a holy grail in energy extraction.

From my physics standpoint I know it will implode and is cold electric and the very nature of this force is unbalanced but a different imbalance that I know of and little is known about it.

All about the dipole so the earth is my dipole and using the earth's own cold electric against it self,how to stop it expoldeing and inter exchange energy this way.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 13, 2017, 11:03:39 PM
Yea I can see the circuit so it is passable.

To overcome this is like the same as having no friction so it works in retrospect the method for this exists and will find and share.

when your at threshold the vacuum/cold electric then starts to fluctuate wildly giving you this unbalanced power which is the holy grail of energy extraction, there is indeed a process for this like the same with having no friction when i mean no friction, you see friction in a magnet motor and you think it won't work but the magnet motor does work because there is no friction involved in the process like the same with the heat pump extracting heat in your fridge.

But with this to overcome and stop the circuit exploding or imploding  and the process i believe is well known you will also overcome all obstacles with these processes.

So yea if any of you know the process to bypass the implode in your face problem then give it a go and what will happen is the vacuum will be fluctuating wildly meaning there is a lot of power/torque the holy grail of free energy on your doorstep

So vacuum/cold electric then starts to fluctuate wildly is the last nail in the coffin meaning it has succeeded in doing what i want it to do out of all my posts here.[/size]

Maybe use particle accelerator only to excite the vacuum so it goes wild with fluctuations???

Just use a particle accelerator to bypass the speed limit and modified it so the particle accelerator antenna doesn't implode or explode with a process which bypasses the limit so it is in the threshold?.

It would be near the speed of light but there is a process which allows it to be dead 0 seconds and be the speed of light using process that i was on about and the very thing would be the earths own cold electric/vaccum being excited with wild fluctuation done with the particle accelerator.

The particle accelerator has to be a fully open circuit for this to work so you don't have to worry about imploding in your face etc.

There are negative ions in the sky so it will still work idea is that is it powered by static electric.

So yea from harvested static the partial accelerator starts off and gains speed until it hits the fresh hold then done automatically from the earth i now have quantum fluctuation going on in the antenna which is the key and last nail in the coffin and wallah.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 14, 2017, 12:30:36 AM
I wonder what other devices that can cause the vacuum to fluctuate wildly so you directly extract power from it.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 14, 2017, 10:09:56 AM
I had an idea you can cause the vacuum to fluctuate wildly.with little power from said device. Then it would take off with power torque.

Need to know more from quantum mechanics.

So from quantum mechanics I know that when the vacuum fluctuates your now have succeeded in energy extraction holy grail it is like fluctuateing the electro magnetic field and electron spins.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 14, 2017, 10:32:41 AM
So you need to have a electric circuit design taking advantage of the quantum vacuum fluctuation and use that to encourage the vacuum to ever more to fluctuate wildly whilst being at the threshold it will cause the magnetic field to fluctuate giving you real power torque so this is the main key.

It really would work like that with the fluctuations even in quantum mechanics it is clear.

I wonder how to get the threshold with little power as you extract power and then use the power to power the extraction process with power to spare the main thing to get it to work like that is via quantum vacuum fluctuations fluctuating wildly so it will work fully and will be of cold not hot in the electric circuit because the em field will fluctuate as well.

My idea is using the earths own cold electric circuit/vacuum using the earths own vacuum and fluctuating the earths own vacuum energy so that will fluctuate which means it will fluctuate in your circuit.

There must be methods to deal with the fluctuation process which is what i need as well. This is like perpetual motion but isn't. The extraction of energy is unlocked with a fluctuating quantum field causing the em field to be like that and in that force of the fluctuating bears real power torque and is different kind of energy all by it's self when compared to extracting energy and using the excess energy for a load regarding using extracted energy to power the extraction process with power left  over for a load that is but the fluctuation of the vacuum is the final key to get it to work like this.

The threshold is where the circuit implodes in your face, so in essence the circuit has to speed up to tap energy from the vacuum as it is called.

What would happen is i now have got my earth circuit device to work, and all it needs is energy from the vacuum process for it to be unlocked to work.

There must be ways to cause the vacuum to get excited ie wild fluctuation so you have a real driving force and to extract it with taping methods, instead of water hammer and the like do those kinds of effects with the vacuum it self prehaps, if you did water hammer of cavitys the best you would get is a under cop 1 circuit but has extracted energy in it whereas the vacuum with its wild flucation gives you cop above 1 by nature.

In physics you now have a true over unity motor thanks to the vacuum and it's wild flu cation and the wild fluctuation is where it all begins.

It isn't breaking the energy conversion law either.

It well and truely is extracting energy from the vacuum not some over unity magnet induction motor (you cannot extract energy from environment) this what i am on about is the real deal regarding my physics standpoint (extracted energy from environment via the earth with its unbalanced electron spin and vacuum fluctuation) and is proven to work as i stated.

If it was not for the unbalanced electron spin my methods in all my post would not work any case it does work plus vacuum fluctuation

When you have energy from vacuum fluctuating wildly the motor will have a constant rpm with torque/power/work done via the earth.

I wonder the nature of the energy regarding the vaccum and how it equates with lenz law and the like to over come the bottleneck in the circuit so it doesn't implode  in your face, when i mean implode  in your face i am on about my other posts regarding imploding in your face anyways with this just finding out how to bypass the problem which lets you hit the threshold to tap energy from vacuum fluctuations.

This vacuum energy is a different kettle of fish, it behaves different when compared to lenz law, explain that in quantum physics and people will buy it.

Since the energy is different is behaves not like usual physics the physics are certainly different with the vacuum/zero point/etc this force is alien in that retrospect.

Now i am having to have to explain that in layman's terms.

Thing's like bending space time using quantum mechanics.

Bending space time can/could be used to give you energy as well.

You can manipulate the energy field to extract power using the bending of space time to also knock on the door.

But it costs energy so yea like with the particle accelerator antenna.

Needs to be transition into a cold circuit not hot.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 14, 2017, 01:19:58 PM
Like a warp drive like star trek the faster you go until you break the threshold to cause the vacuum to fluctuate with the surrounding vaccum communication with the bended field to extract power as well.

Since the space drive is going through space it could use the vaccum it self for propulsion and going at the speed of light which is where it causes the vaccum to fluctuate, you see where I am going with this?

Like folding space but it is swimming in a sea of energy which is the vaccum/zpe.

It is like an invisible circuit which is what it is.

Yep am correct > http://techland.time.com/2012/09/19/nasa-actually-working-on-faster-than-light-warp-drive/ (http://techland.time.com/2012/09/19/nasa-actually-working-on-faster-than-light-warp-drive/) proves the principle

The threshold is the speed of light in a circuit know any method to achieve that so I can get a fluctuate vaccum without an implosion in my face..
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 14, 2017, 01:57:22 PM
So yeah I now know that I need components that do the speed of light...which I can see would exist I mean the particle accelerator only goes near light speed and not light speed it self so that wouldn't work.

Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 14, 2017, 02:24:12 PM
You may have had a few laughs at me but just brain storming.

Regarding the cold electricity/power/vacuum the more i am able to see how these over unity devices work using my own brain storming methods.

Need to know all the in's and outs as to how you can get a fluctuating vacuum, that will be a big step venture into the world of free energy.

Or a build up of vacuum energy so it then starts to fluctuate?

You can indeed inject power from vaccum into a hot circuit using a special spark plug or spark gap.

I now view this vacuum energy as the driving force.

This is quantum energy so it is different because quantum physics say so with overwhelming evidence compared to standard laws i.e. you must not treat this alien force as being the same as standard electric, it not adhere with current laws you accuse me with.

This alien force/zpe/vaccum has it's own set of laws because the nature behavior of this alien force/zpe/vaccum is exactly that that isn't the same as with the conventional law you accuse me with.

It would be clear with zpe/vaccum is alot different when compared to standard conventional laws.

For zpe/vaccum conventional laws do not apply here, it has its own set of laws that isn't exactly the rule book to follow. If you treat zpe as conventional you will fail miserably.

If zpe/vaccum fluctuates then what is that called in conventional laws please because it will fluctuate the electro magnetic field giving you the impossible because the laws are different as have said!!!??? - the reason why i said this is because it is known everywhere on earth regarding the laws which say you cannot have a fluctuation from the vacuum.

I can see it would have a replenishing effect also a double mirror effect which enables the replenishing effect and the circuit gets colder as well as having the opposite effect on battery's regarding wear and tear it is opposite so the battery never wears out and so the circuit doesn't cut this force off.what I am on about is the paragraph above this paragraph about testing the fluctuating force from the alien vacuum energy, yep done in a conventional law circuit this also saying they don't teach this in school and the energy goes to infinity so it definitely is zpe/vacuum energy, i would use an open circuit and use the earth because it needs a unbalanced electron spin for it to work or other ideas surrounding this.

Since i said about the fluctuating force from the vacuum effecting conventional electric physics they added a paragraph explaining this effect and yes has no limit as it goes to infinity

I can see a motor making use of the fluctuation effect/replenishing powering up with real power/torque from the vacuum.

The circuit was up against the power from the vacuum, so the fluctuating effect was present in the circuit and it really could not operate but was running because energy was being cut off and it was causing stress in the circuit so had to be off loaded and understood there was a double mirror effect of the mirror effect one side depletes(hot circuit current like with mostly every circuit on the planet) and the other replenishes ( cools and is totally opposite to the hot current) and was detected in the circuit and understood why it was under stress.

The instrument that you use to measure volts and amps with the circuit in replenishing mode was entirely negative/negative voltage causing the circuit to get colder and colder not hot.

I wonder if you can get the fluctuations to self power it self actually yes fully is possible that will be your unbalanced spin drive in stead off the unbalanced spin in the earth where the fluctuations give you a unbalanced spin so use the fluctuations spin and vollia.

If you wanna try you have to have something that achieves speed of light to fluctuate the vacuum doing the earth circuit and it will run just look at my previous post, what you end up with it is a rpm at a constant pace with true vacuum power running it whilst it is in harmony with the earth and there you go and you can get power from it as well.

I think someone tested this and it violently shook with real momentum.

Now i can see it is now self-sustaining perpetually running with power.

I can see a machine running as well off vaccum energy using this method which is my  point of view > If zpe/vaccum fluctuates then what is that called in conventional laws please because it will fluctuate the electro magnetic field giving you the impossible because the laws are different as have said!!!???[/size] [/size]

So how does it work well flucations from the vaccum and the unbalanced spins of zero point, which causes magnetism and the like to have unbalanced electron spins one bigger than other like scaler waves that is how it all works.

It makes sense the spins of zero point pop out of nowhere just like atoms that show up and then dissapear it is exactly like that.

With the fluctuation atoms from another realm comes and pops into our realm

with a vibrating zero point fluctuation or fluctuating rapidly the atomic structure now has subatomic particles to achieve this, the sub atomic partical is where the power is so the sub atomic partical enters into our realm.

so the more you vibrate it the more energy you get as in capturing particals it captures the partical by it self and when u vibrate it creates power, so it is like a invisible device where you shake to get power and with a self powering vibration so you dont have to like the zpe flucation

so with vacuum fluctuation the process is this it sucks in subatomic particles into our realm and gives us power simply put and the  physics of this is a unbalanced spin one bigger then the other that is where the magic is.

laws of the realm eh well when the particle isnt in our realm it gives nothing exactly that but when it is , it gives power it automatically comes to the realm where the source of attraction is, it is like a natural harvesting bucket.

So with the quantum fluctuation, the nature of this energy is one tiny spin and one big spin which says alot so it is already self-powered and if you did this with gravity then it will tapp into vacuum energy, i wonder what the quantum/zpe/vaccum fluctuation/vibration is like with the gravity wheel.

So it starts off as self powered and the pendulum of gravity will mimic the zpe energy fluctuation translate that into a gravity wheel and you have a perpetual vaccum energy gravity wheel with one big spin and one little spin and these spins will come into our realm so you have them or with magnets.

i can see the quantum scalar effect self running  in unbalanced vaccum spin method and have a real power torque to it so it self run and being able to power a load.

at an angle so you be able to control the speed of the device running of vaccum unbalanced spins borrowed from some other realm.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 14, 2017, 07:55:24 PM
Every time you wack the vaccum field you automatically get energy from the vacuum.

Regarding vacuum fluctuation so a spark plug can do this or in gravity with a wack or any other Wacking method.

These parts have to been designed to tap the fluctuate field so you can vibrate it to give you power simply put.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 14, 2017, 08:37:23 PM
Taking advantage of Zpe spins, it has to be self vibrated regards the Zpe fluctuate field so these spins take affect in our realm and thus through electro magnetism you have unbalanced electron spins to use. Zpe spins are unbalanced and is perpetual.

I cannot find a picture showing you the zpe spins.

The ancients knew of this. They said Godhead periodically created new Universes by breathing out, and de-creating other Universes by breathing in. These epochs were called Yugas. Modern science called this the Big Bang [/size](theory)[/size]. I was in absolute, pure consciousness. I could see or perceive all the Big Bangs or Yugas creating and de-creating themselves. Instantly I entered into them all simultaneously. I saw that each and every little piece of creation has the power to create. It is very difficult to try to explain this. I am still speechless about this.[/size]It took me years after I returned to assimilate any words at all for the Void experience. I can tell you this now; the Void is less than nothing, yet more than everything that is! The Void is Absolute Consciousness; much more than even Universal Intelligence.

From [/size]https://100777.com/spiritual/beings_having_a_physical_experience (https://100777.com/spiritual/beings_having_a_physical_experience)

I can tell you this now; the Void is less than nothing, yet more than everything that is! - this is the energy from vaccum/zpe spin it is unbalanced by nature.

I saw that each and every little piece of creation has the power to create. It is very difficult to try to explain this. I am still speechless about this.[/size]

Those unbalanced spins justify power to create and destory, if this wasn't the case then where did the universe come from if cannot create nor destory eh?

You wouldn't be able to have a universe if that was the case don't you think that is obvious enough? - the answer is this > I saw that each and every little piece of creation has the power to create. It is very difficult to try to explain this. I am still speechless about this.

If energy from the vacuum was balanced then what causes it to shoot of to infinity and cannot measure it.

If it shoots off to infinity then it has the power to create energy done by the potential energy of going off to infinity.

Some thing about motive force I think if it wasn't the case as in having real power to self run perpetual motion then it would be impossible to go off to infinity if you think about it.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 15, 2017, 10:09:47 AM
So where do all these motive forces spawn from the forces are imbalance and the motive forces.are different like zero point where its motive force goes off to infinity.

I'd tap the motive potential of zero point and have it in electric field so an electronic circuit goes off to infinity.

As in acceleration getting harder and harder So by it self it will get faster and faster while self running this is same principle where it goes off to infinity.

The way it goes off to infinity already breaks the laws of physics because it self runs with created power.
If you study why all the process of why it shoot off to infinity then you get the unbalanced spin you will have a true self runner giving power I am confident about that.

There is indeed suppressed science papers that support me.

I can see people have succeeded with this, it really is a different energy regarding zero point they now have devices breaking laws of physics.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 15, 2017, 11:38:41 AM
Actually yes you can indeed get a heat pump to be like a self runner but isn't because it cuts off the source. I can see the circuit and would work in that fashion because externally it extracts power and overcome the limitation and use this limitation to extract more heat using the heat from the external factor.

I can see it definitely would work exactly like a self attracting solar panel effect where it encourages the external energy extraction to overcome this because my previous idea didn't work regarding earth circuit and a self running heat pump so I have the right concessions.

In principle in science you can externally extract energy to overcome limitation to extract power and then close the loop so a self running solar panel and isn't perpetual motion.

This is also called em drive where you run off extracted energy to power the extraction process with power to spare and power a load.

You will be limited as to how much you can extract but there will be no limit as to how much you extract thereticly speaking.

I am now in the realm of understanding.

If you do this with the earth it will now work and same with heat pump after all my post, this post have nailed it so it does work this time around.

Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 15, 2017, 01:26:45 PM
I think some one wants me out of the physics room.

Anyways I see a circuit to tap the earth's electric static power using my own earth circuit ideas.

It now runs with constant rpm power torque thanks to the unbalanced electron spin of the earth, so tapping the unbalanced spin and there you go.

The particle accelerator antenna does its magic to capture ever more energy.

It has to run externally to work like the heat pumps method of externally capturing energy.

You say you don't get much power well there is a solution the partical accelerator antenna.

If you apply this to physics it fully works in an external manner I mean the heat pump has this one solved.

If you did this with gravity it will fully work as well since energy physics apply to all of the different energy's.

I was thinking out side of the bubble.

If you say this does not work well just use the earth's unbalanced electron spin to do work so that it fully works.

So yea just use the earth's unbalanced force it is ready to go.

This can be worked out easy it is using classic em laws and laws of physics so you definitely will get alot of power using a particle accelerator antenna.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 15, 2017, 04:15:55 PM
You seem to think this is perpetual motion?

Don't believe in a device that is apparantly self running perpetually?

Believe [size=78%] me with classic em and laws of physics it would make complete sense and agree that it most certainly does work like this and the critical bit is the extraction process and the heat pump has solved it which gives you a cop of 3 externally so it does extract while bypassing lenz law and the like.[/size] whilst being proven technology i rest my case.

If you did the extraction process with a gravity motor the vibrations suck in energy via extraction and it will be a magic perptual gravity wheel when it is not it is using the external extraction process proven in a heat pump and it is clear if you fed this cop 3 energy to feed it self it will get hotter and hotter to no end therectly with no limit, and the potential of this energy if you know it in your own way certainly will give you a cop above 1 and self run magicly via extraction and have power left over for a load.

However the heat pump the way i envisioned it doesn't work like that so with the earth yes you can which is why i cannot stress enough about the unbalanced electron spins of the earth and you already think this is perpetual well no and in anycase it does communicate with the vacuum and draws energy from the vacuum with this process as well which i know.

But with the heat pump externally extracting energy and externally feeding it energy then there you have a self runner via extraction of energy and will work with classic em and laws of physics same with the earth.

If you cannot get a heat pump to self run then 100% i am confident that you use the earths already done spins if you don't know how to get it in an electric circuit and in any case we all know the earth has power and not some balanced lenz law canceling effect if it was like this the earth wouldn't function what so ever i might add because you think it has a balanced flux field, and a balanced flux field doesnt give you torque or power.

So where does the magic perpetual magic happen well the earths unbalanced momentum spins is where it is at where it will accelerate until it is at a constant rpm with power torque and there you go, and for some reason you seem to think they never taught you about this momentum actually it does have it covered and will work.

The momentum of the force of where it gets hotter to no end is where extracted excess of energy is for a load.

It seems you want to believe the very thing behind all of it which caused the universe to exist was done via conversion a solely conversion that is so it is pixie dust.

Since you cannot create nor destory, we no longer exist maybe some wasteful force caused the universe to exist you know a big bang bang.

Absolutely NOTHING goes faster than the speed of light so infinity = light speed, infinity never goes faster than the speed of light.

If you ever master what created the universe, you sir have found the holy grail of free energy and in any case it is obvious that infinity is instantaneous speed, if i were to try an get a basic understanding of how to measure infinity, i would look at the quantum spin that is of this going off to infinity to being with and work out an equation like measuring flux density and the like but with the quantum spin and work it out from there.

I would love to know if science knows what zero point looks like in a picture.

Yep this off to infinity is apart of the process to create energy, i already know zero point it behind all of it.

This off to infinity prove that there is indeed energy in the vacuum and this energy is the creation of power but modern science disprove of this, this energy is what causes it to go off to infinity.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 15, 2017, 10:10:12 PM
Lets devise a circuit using off to infinity then it will perpetually self run.

I wanted what the electric spins of momentum look like when it goes off to infinity

Tom beradon has mentally communicated to me and thyis is his website and he has been threatened over what he knows he is the real deal. http://www.cheniere.org/ (http://www.cheniere.org/) regarding energy existing in the vaccum any case that energy in vaccum are those sub atomic particles and the like in co junction with other atoms

whent those atom do there magic that is a process of creating energy!

If you think u can get power from vaccum then i am sad to say modern science treats it that u cannot extract energy from vaccum because they believe energy cannot be created.

When these sub atomic do there magic for power it is actually creating energy
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 16, 2017, 04:47:45 AM
Somebody did just that he created matter whilst knowing what 'creates power' and is very hard to explain why this happens.

Anyways regarding em force and laws of current physics, you need to be at a fast threshold for it to work, regarding the earth circuit where you power it with extracted energy leaving you with excess power and same with a gravity device using this method.

As for the earth energy extraction circuit both opposing sides must be cancelled out to externally extract energy just like the heat pump and to have it run like a self powered solar panel so it has excess energy to power a load, it is clear your going to have to hit a threshold for this to work and will work.

The momentum of the force which none of you for some reason don't buy will cause it to self run with torque excess to power it self as well as a load at same time, this is fully possible even with your knowledge of electric circuits, and the momentum comes from the earth because there is a momentum present in the earth for you to use.

I don't know how many times i have repeated my self.

Even with the bashing you may as well bash the heat pump.

The extracted energy has to cross over in the circuit.

With conventional circuit design you can indeed achieve a self running earth circuit with power to spare.

I can see accelerating ions which is where it will self run with excess power regarding earth circuit, so it powers the extraction process with power to spare with arrows so that ultimately is proven, the dream is trying to achieve this effect and fails so the device doesn't work but the earth is ready to go with a never ending no limit as to how much you can extract, like the heat pump but this is a different configuration but yea where it gets hotter and hotter to no end there is a bit where it causes this force to give excess power.

This bit in the force where it gives excess energy is the threshold.

There are arrows clearly explaining this effect i am on about and should be clear that it defiantly will give you a self powered device with excess energy as in energy extraction powering the process to extract energy and then with excess power for a load that is what the arrows of momentum means.

It will  self run at a constant rpm with power/torque as have said tons of times.

And isn't breaking the laws what so ever.

The arrows follow the unbalanced electromagnetic spin where it does work/power/torque/unbalanced momentum as have said and shown in a picture with arrows i drew.

This excess energy is what I call power torque you know to power a load as well as the extraction process so it is self sustaining.

So excess energy is the accelerator arrows.

an arrow went off to full acceleration and another arrow showing excess energy all in the same line like a sentence. because it is past the threhold to get excess energy.

This as have said isn't perpetual motion it is a self powered solar panel i cannot stress this enough!

It coerolates with 92% effiency in a motor but this is going at 100 percent and can see that because past 92% per cent so it is now 100 per cent is the excess energy threshold.

what i am trying to say is the law about 92 per cent in a motor this force can bypass that and give you 100 per cent efficiency this above 92 per cent is excess energy territory

so when you are at the threshold it will be like a plane breaking the sound barrier and dunno how to solve that but with the understanding i can see there already widely known how to solve it.

Heart of this is using the acceleration arrows with a particle accelerator antenna.

so same apply with the earth circuit breaking the threshold of 92% law translated below 92 you do not get excess energy but above it you will get excess energy. all to do with the speeds, same with a apparantly self powering gravity motor it needs fast speed to operate and will look like perpetual motion but isnt.

But in this i already know there is a perpetual force which is causing outrage with this device and is where the earth has it s own cold electric as have said again if you remember my previous post and is why you didnt buy this at first.

With the perpetual force you will be able to control the extraction speed/motor rpm instead of going off to no end of speed and burn out. It looks like an unbalanced scalar wave regarding the perpetual force.

Regarding that the earth will automatically give you constant rpm but to manipulate the force of this is the perpetual motion force present in this earth circuit so yea this is causing outrage.

it will self accelerate with the particle accelerator antenna so it speeds up using extracted energy from the atmosphere/ions so it goes faster to power the antenna it self so it amplifiys in that regard so it sucks ever more ions in  from not having excess energy to actually having excess energy - the threshold.

The very thing that propels this into speed going faster and faster is the accelerator it self it doesn't need to be in to accelerate as in no excess energy or excess energy what i mean is the accelerator the process it isnt affected what so ever by the extraction process that is it will just keep on giving an accelerator effect which is what it is.

the accelerator it tied in with a perpetual force as have said and communicates with the vaccum/zpe  from the vacuum/zpe this way and is powered by the vaccum/zpe sustained by the vaccum/zpe
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 16, 2017, 03:06:06 PM
Using a normal antenna doesn't cut the mustard which is why they don't use the earth's power.

A particle accelerator antenna does and is self propergated with the accelerator so it will get bigger and bigger until you pass the threshold and into excess energy, unless you want to tap the accelerator atom it self which is present around the earth which is a different technique as compared with my method of using particle accelerator antenna.

If there is a problem i would look at the principles of the heat pump to fully achieve my goal of extracting power from earth.

Theoretically yes in physic this force give you excess power, only way is how hah.

Like friction is there is friction it will still work because of a process overcoming that problem same with my earth circuit idea ways of overcoming the problems which solutions do exist.

overcoming the bottleneck of the threshold well if the force can do it fine without problems then a circuit will as well.

Either way it will be a lot of static electric because the wave of the antenna will get longer and  longer to no end and reach the ionosphere of the earth where there is a ton of power which is what i achieve with the particle accelerator antenna.

Good news there are people who know how to over come the bottleneck :P .

The thing responseible which is the accelerator looks like a swirl a highly charged particle.

This swirl gets the impossible effect from the vaccum Zpe and is getting it from the vaçcum when the swirl turns it gets that effect.

When it turns it vibrates the vaccum zpe and this is the core power of it, it is like slamming the vacuum Zpe and yea where the magic happens.
The conjunction of the atom with Zpe is that there is an unbalanced momutum occuring and is excited and is exactly like sub atomic but different energy it resonates with tat energy. Unbalanced in size is what mean like a small vortex and a much bigger one and at an angle of momentum.

Within this s vibration is the key between accelerator and Zpe vaccum energy.

Because you can use the vibration for many things.

The vibration is ocilator between Zpe and the accelerator and how it interacts with each other and I call this the control panel to control the rpm speed and if not use the earth's own rpm regarding my earth circuit where the excess energy is.

I can see a rod taking advantage of the accelerator using physics by capturing the atom and have it run off extracted energy along with propulsion  and taken care of the bottleneck of the threshold.

some silicate compound about the rod captureing this energy.

And some vacuum tube valve as well to attract static/ions and is glowing red hot but fail to see how it would accelerate the process like with my particle accelerator antenna now i see it is using the vacuums way or self attracted ever more energy whereas my idea doesn't have that process and needs an antenna.

Forgive me am brain dead but have a correct consensus.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 16, 2017, 07:51:36 PM
Take all my posts with a pinch of salt anyways have a good day.

The translucent nature of zpe is where it gets it's motion from.
the translucent waves hitting a stick will give movement.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 17, 2017, 10:11:27 AM
Take all my posts with a pinch of salt anyways have a good day.

The translucent nature of zpe is where it gets it's motion from.
the translucent waves hitting a stick will give movement.
Turn into motive force like a em drive because you convert the zpe energy into movement

Because of some evil person is blocking know how as to how to tap zpe.

zpe energy is a perpetual force all by it self what do you think?

The translucent nature of zpe is where it gets it's motion from.[/size]the translucent waves hitting a stick will give movement.Turn into motive force like a em drive because you convert the zpe energy into movement

Converting zpe into motion would be a big start and can be done, if done it will prove it is a perpetual force.

Or convert the translucent effect into motion and then you will have a better understanding as to why this is perpetual.

The perpetual effect is clear with the way the force looks, it is unblanaced and this is where motion comes from to no end.

The stick can convert this into motion and is the barrier of the translucent effect so get an angle of momentum between the unbalanced poles like north and south and there you go.

you can contain this force, so it doesn't go off to infinity.

so it spins off to infinity.

Since zpe exist between atoms(this is what i call a stick) you can convert it into our electric magnetic spectrum.

In actual fact this zpe force has broken all the laws bottlenecks etc don't apply here due to the nature of this force - that is what was found when it was converted into our electric spectrum.

When zpe force collided with the electron magnet spectrum it was concluded that it has an effect where it breaks the law.

Because the force existing in electric is different with its sigh this is hard to explain.

Use the translucent force of zpe and have it convert it into motion (where it hits the stick) with the em drive, this is how the impossible em drive works folks.

It has the same principle (em drive) as with my idea about the earth circuit and converting zpe waves into motion

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a24745/science-behind-em-drive/ (http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a24745/science-behind-em-drive/)

I can see a working turbine using the zpe effect of my earth circuit just had to work out the itneraction of zpe energy thats all,and some thunder when using em drive.

using em drive it has to create a quantum wave of motion whilst converting zpe energy waves that will break the physics indeed and indeed fully work as well theoretically speaking.

https://resonance.is/nasas-emdrive-quantum-theory-pilot-waves/ (https://resonance.is/nasas-emdrive-quantum-theory-pilot-waves/)

Instead of weeks it now takes days to reach a destination using em drive and using my theoretical brain storming.

There is a build up of momentum in my earth circuit where excess power is ultimate is proven.

Any how there are critics to my idea, as well as saying you cannot get perpetual motion, some say why they couldn't think as i do, as well as love, but plenty of laughs.

Anyways if i wanted free power i would revert to my earth circuit and have the earth resonance to accelerate via partical accelerator antenna.

There is only 1 thing standing in the way to make this a reality the threshold because it draws in negative energy regarding the excess power and the circuit has to have something where it transitions from positive to negative energy and this negative energy is the colder effect as opposed to the heat we already get in a circuit.

If and when i found out how to overcome i will then in detail explain how you can also get the same effect and then live off grid.

Any ways have a good day. :-).
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 17, 2017, 05:53:37 PM
Since the earth has its own particle accelerator i was wondering how to make use of the earths particle accelerator potential like in an ion to suck ever more energy from the earth or am i not correct or is this even possible to increase amplitude?

Why didn't any one else thought about the particle accelerator antenna that am on about to make this possible?

There is no such thing as a particle accelerator antenna even though it would be a valid technology?

What other method do they have to increase amplitude to suck in more ions like with my idea of the particle accelerator antenna, i mean using the ions already to capture more ions so a self powered ion method, where yo use the captured ions from earth to cause an effect to suck attract even more ions like a wave with an increasing longer wave length as it does that.

Well you can indeed but it is no match with my particle accelerator antenna and it won't achieve my excess power dream as well but you still would suck more ions out of the sky at the very least so you need a long wire of antenna to get the desired amount of power.

There must be a method as to manipulate the earths own particle accelerator built in with the earths circuity.

It is already clear the amplitude of my particle accelerator antenna increases the wave length to tap into ions.

I need my particle accelerator otherwise you get puny energy from the earth, and i don't want to use a ballon hah.

I don't like inferior methods and refuse to think with such components so i leave you to use the inferior components.

I do still think it is possible to use the earths own particle accelerator to speed up the pump effect so to speak https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/162397-earth-acts-as-a-giant-particle-accelerator-creating-the-dangerous-van-allen-radiation-belts (https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/162397-earth-acts-as-a-giant-particle-accelerator-creating-the-dangerous-van-allen-radiation-belts) .

I think people are reliefed that i couldn't destroy the earth with such a device (partical accelerator antenna) maybe a self oscillating method to tap the earths own method of acceleration(earths own particle accelerator) which is entirely different method.

Now to go about with how to use the earths own particle accelerator.

I think i need to input energy to achieve the effect to use the earths own particle accelerator.

Yes has been worked out i have to use inputed energy to cause the effect, how about already captured ions?

Like an ion powered input device which is different to normal electric powered input to cause the earths particle accelerator to wake up(be used).

I think i need to tune into the earths rf to cause the earths own particle accelerator in conjunction with other things.

Like dialing home to the specific wave length so it self resonates.

It will be in harmony with the earths own particle accelerator and no bottlenecks either, like using the control panel like with zpe/vaccum but for the  earths own particle accelerator.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/04/100419-lightning-natural-particle-accelerators-lhc/ (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/04/100419-lightning-natural-particle-accelerators-lhc/)

I think people think i am wacko because of concerns like this > https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2008/10oct_lhc (https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2008/10oct_lhc)

So a natural ion pump particle accelerator powered by the earth done by the earth i can see the advantage and it beats the conventional method of tapping power from earth like weather balloons with a wire to tap the earths power)

It would pick up speed as it uses the earths own particle accelerator.

In the earth process is the key to tap and use the earths own particle accelerator and isn't impossible and can be fully be used to this effect/end.

With a normal static antenna it isn't charged by the particle accelerator effect unless other wise you would get an ever increasing amount of ions which doesn't seem to have been achieved yet other wise all of us would be using the earths power instead  of power stations.

Any one with a brain unlike me will succeed with all my ideas and i can see that easily.

I need to tune it into the process matching ions frequency with the earths particle accelerator frequency.

At the very best it would be an energy saver for whoever decided to have a crack at this and won't be true over unity, it is like a magnet induction motor giving cop 3 but isn't true over unity with that magnet induction motor regarding a standard antenna cable which isn't accelerated instead look at the heat pump that is a true energy extraction device and you can indeed get it to be self-extracting with power using the external method of overcoming lenz law because the heat pump already has defeated lenz law. it will be self perpetuate because it is breaking lenz law like the perpetual force lenz laws defeated this will work this is what i said about it being external like ways to work around lenz law as you can see it will work as a self powered external solar power plant and will have no end in sight theoretically where it gets hotter and hotter and limated by the extraction process as to how much power you get out via extraction if you use heat pump method of fully defeating lenz law it will suck in ever more energy (actually getting its energy from zpe/vaccum) otherwise you will hit a brick wall like i said about my earth circuit not working and the bubble of understanding either way you can tap the energy to extract it with lenz law out of the way with the switching effect

externally means getting energy put into your circuit other wise lenz law will not allow you to inject energy into your system.

The switching effect causes energy to come from the zpe/vaccum i know that.

You need an open circuit just like the heat pump and this momentum comes from the earth's forces where the driving force is of acceleration as i put it regarding my earth circuit and all of that.

That acceleration effect is present in the heat pump already the energy it extracts from the environment is linked with the earth it self and her(mother earth) forces.

This method of bypassing the law is like the same with zpe/vaccum energy it is a unlocking effect.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 18, 2017, 08:46:43 AM
They found an opposite polarity force which is where you get energy from the vaccum from, and the polarity force didn't dissapation when you have the perpetual effect of Zpe vaccum energy done via the vaccum energy replenish effect
Of cold electric getting colder not hot which is the difference in dissapation where it should lose its perpetual charge but doesn't regarding the self perpetuate heat pump.

And the dissipation effect is opposite because we get excess energy like with my earth circuit or a self perpetuate heat pump which fully defeats lens law.

And saying the acceleration effect shouldn't work but it does.

No need to worry about dissipation because the vaccum it self perpetually self sustains that so it works and does work and is the drive of where we get excess energy to power it self as well as a load same with my earth circuit and the self perpetuate heat pump.

Regarding excess energy i can see positive energy being added to the circuit which in effect is tapping the vaccum/zpe and vaccum/zpe energy is being drawn here and have said what created the universe is in this process it has the power to create this is the unbalanced nature of all of it.

If you can clearly see the potential of my ideas then yes it will work in that fashion.

Also it is a big ouch for nay Sayers of perpetual motion because of the self-perpetuate effect of the heat pump which has defeated lenz law fully, where you use the extracted heat from environment(which gives a cop over 1) to feed it at the source so there is a never ending heat coming in see what i mean so where is the potential coming from of push and pull as it accelerates to the threshold regarding this potential it will cross over the barrier(extraction speed) of 92% efficiency since the heat pump defeated lenz law you can now pass over 92 per cent and this translucent force is now used can you see this, there you go that perpetual force is now used it is a polar opposite switch is what it is regarding  the barrier/threshold.

This is why they say the acceleration effect is impossible but isn't because there is a translucent force present in that accelerator effect which is of the exact nature of zpe/vaccum it self.

Polar opposite is what zpe vaccum is when it passes the threshold of acceleration it will exceed in power.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 18, 2017, 11:16:16 AM
The impossible has now been achieved with heat pump methods.

A switch went down and is now getting energy from the perpetual vaccum/zpe from the polar opposite polarity.

Even though it is normal switch the effect will be there.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 18, 2017, 12:17:10 PM
The force with this translucent force resides fully with the earth.

So have an open circuit to take advantage of this.

Heat molecules also tap into the earth's power so the heat pump perpetual process is archived.

Like the same with ions static power connected to earth's power advantage same with heat where the earth produces ions static same with heat and the sun and the like.

That is where you have to tap into other wise you won't have the correct force which I have been on about because the earth is already connect to Zpe vaccum so you don't have to work out how to achieve that in a closed circuit.

It won't work in a closed circuit but in an open one to extract earth power then it works and in that open. Circuit you have a translucent force to play with.

Instead of matching the earths resonance to achieve the desired effect i have now got this force internally in  a circuit in what i call the ceiling extracting zpe vaccum energy and is defiantly knowing it is drawing energy from vacuum , if you did my method with your current knowledge of electric it wouldn't work as in not doing my circuit but to tap into the earths power the conventional way it would have no ceiling of torque(to get work done but this is under unity) but instead of that i am tapping the accelerator going 100 per cent so it gives excess energy, with your reasoning is it credible that it will give excess energy or not with your understanding of the force going full 100 per cent?

Its like the same reasoning in saying we need zero friction for it to work perpetually(like an atom spin going round in circles that is zero friction) but there is a method where it doesn't need zero friction because it is in the process and same with this 100 per cent process of the energy.

So using simple physics yes we need zero friction for it to rotate and if you want a force to give excess power we need it to be 100 per cent if only i could put it into words.

50% efficiency is needed because it is a half cycle of energy this will achieve a friction less environment and with the potential of that energy using this simple understanding i know full well it will give excess power due to the nature of it, it is the translucent effect image the translucent effect you see it and that is how it gives excess people.

so you see it is very clear with no friction is will enable it to do this but only how to achieve it? same with it being very clear to me with the accelerator effect going 100 per cent.

At best with these overunity machines it is using the dead exact same principle as the heat pump in your fridge except it is solely extraction of energy and in that energy is the zero point force and you can excite it to tap into zpe energy simple.

So instead of trying to replicate or understand i am afraid the answer is in the heat pump.

This translucent force propels the  acceleration effect.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 18, 2017, 05:48:37 PM
We can control acceleration via the translucent force.

I know full well about the heat pump achieving the desired effect self-perpetual actually isn't a pipe dream it is reality.

I can see an electron beam/spin clearly demonstrating the impossible accelerator effect just by using the earth since the earth is already wired for it and at very least can be used for a warp drive like the em drive but the part i couldn't prove is the translucent effect behind it, got interrupted to say it isn't perpetual motion from somebody.But they will discover things like a polar opposite Zpe force because Zpe is tied in effect with the acceleration effect of earth.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 19, 2017, 12:14:24 PM
My understanding of the acceleration effect has caused an earthquake in science community.

There is an unbalanced force where it states everything as being equal attraction right so with this you can control it with a balanced force, the unbalanced force breaks that perception which propells the acceleration like an unbalanced wheel.design you know but nature has one that actually works other wise no accelerator effect.

The acceleration effect is a species of the natures own unbalanced wheel effect so it runs perpetually.

Not out of nothing it implies that it cannot run perpetual Lt, you cannot make energy out of nothing,unless you start to view the vaccum as having energy and in this energy is power to create it has to have energy of Zpe vaccum wouldn't work or go off to infinity so what causes it to go off to infinity where it has no power?

So if the vaccum has no power to your reasoning what other idea is there?

You would think obviously it has to have power to do work(go off to infinity) at the very least even if you view it not to be a perpetual force that is.

Science view it as to having no power(no energy what so eever in the void/vaccum/zpe so this means it creates power out of nothing(thin air) which isnt accepted in science community( but it does come out of thin air otherwise you cannot extract energy from vaccum/zpe) or no power to create which is illogical stop using that cannot create nor destroy nonsense this force isn't like that.) which destroys the conception of power to create and destroy.

We are using circuits that destroy the process.

I hope you see the contradiction of mainstream science regarding zero point and what i said about it in this post they end up with theory or cannot explain or cannot measure zpe that goes off to infinity.

So zero point the name means energy comes out of thin air(which science doesn't buy) there is evidence which supports me on this for sure about energy to use from zpe, it is a sign that actually zpe is creating power there (where it comes out of thin air regarding the vaccum effect it self that is)

So this zero space means exactly that, make sense or not?

zero space is the opposite trajectory of zpe it self this is what causes the acceleration that i am always on about which gives its effect

Zpe is exact like an over balanced wheel to give a perpetual effect but they dont seem to work like that instead of being equal forces which is what is taught in school.

zpe is by no means a balanced force (out of every species of the balanced understanding) over wise it wouldn't work again or go off to infinity.

zero point is at the end of the spectrum thus isn't a balanced force what   so ever knowing about this zero teractory it is not balanced force, zero is unbalanced like an over arched wheel that is their understanding in that is the translucent effect
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 20, 2017, 09:10:37 AM
So zero point means zero energy where there is no power or power to create.

But if you look up at the upper end of spectrum that is where power to create is as opposed to power to destroy.so the upper end of spectrum is full of energy got it?

I think there would be tell tell signs in science that supports me.

There is a definite opposite to zero point yes or no?

More like power to destroy where energy spawns from the negative vaccum.

But energy doesn't spawn from the negative vaccum but it does with the positive vaccum that is.

But with opposite there is a sucking effect in vaccum where negative zero point energy comes from in the negative vaccum which follows power to create from the positive vaccum.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 20, 2017, 09:35:50 AM
If the universe started with zero point we wouldn't exist.

Because it is negative end of spectrum..we wouldn't exist. I have a clear understanding that zero point doesn't exist either.

So with negative vaccum there is no force to play with.

They I believe are incompatible forces regarding positive vaccum and negative vaccum.

I can see clearly of why the zero point self destructs and is waste thus it cannot create power(mass less where it doesn't exist and we wouldn't exist and nothing would ever have created the universe) but it can create a destructive power though through the suckion/vaccum effect which follows positive vaccum

zero can point can create an equal force that is understood but there is a perpetual effect of the vaccum effect which isn't widely known

It self destructs whereas the positive self generates.

This zero point cannot sustain it self nor can it self perpetuate and is like a leech , to leech power form the positivee vaccum

This zero point is out-side of the void of creation and thus is incompatible.

I stand to be corrected i do have a correct consensus but am getting to know the vaccum and why it is so.

i think there is blind spot in science they cannot see past zero point.

In nature and every where in the universe it doesn't even use zero point which is the negative vaccum or negative end of spectrum the space between atoms.

I can now see why it is impossible to achieve the effect and why they say it is impossible because of this the universe wouldn't exist simply put, it isn't the first one.

if it is impossible then it is impossible for the universe to begin with.

this less and less effect is self combust.

I can see why it is impossible the core of zero point is impossible by it self this zero point doesn't have work in it.

i can see why i am being laughed at scorned etc i can see it clearly, and can see why they say the accelerator effect is impossible as well.

I can see why it needs to be positive only

THE VOID OF NOTHINGNESS

Suddenly I seemed to be rocketing away from the planet on this stream of Life. I saw the earth fly away. The solar system, in all its splendor, whizzed by and disappeared. At faster than light speed, I flew through the center of the galaxy, absorbing more knowledge as I went. I learned that this galaxy, and all of the Universe, is bursting with many different varieties of LIFE. I saw many worlds. The good news is that we are not alone in this Universe!
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As I rode this stream of consciousness through the center of the galaxy, the stream was expanding in awesome fractal waves of energy. The super clusters of galaxies with all their ancient wisdom flew by. At first I thought I was going somewhere; actually traveling. But then I realized that, as the stream was expanding, my own consciousness was also expanding (seeking - JAH) to take in everything in the Universe! All creation passed by me. It was an unimaginable wonder! I truly was a Wonder Child; a babe in Wonderland!

It seemed as if all the creations in the Universe soared by me and vanished in a speck of Light. Almost immediately, a second Light appeared. It came from all sides, and was so different; a Light made up of more than every frequency in the Universe. I felt and heard several velvety sonic booms again. My consciousness, or being, was expanding to interface with the entire Holographic Universe and more.

As I passed into the second Light, the awareness came to me that I had just transcended the Truth*. Those are the best words I have for it, but I will try to explain. As I passed into the second Light, I expanded beyond the First Light. I found myself in a profound stillness, beyond all silence. I could see or perceive FOREVER, beyond Infinity.

* The Truth that he - the Being part of a human+Being - is not human - JAH.

I was in the Void.

I was in pre-creation. I had crossed over the beginning of time - the First Word - the First vibration. I was in the Eye of Creation. I felt as if I was touching the Face of God. It was not a religious feeling. Simply I was at one with Absolute Life and Consciousness.

When I say that I could see or perceive forever, I mean that I could experience all of creation generating itself. It was without beginning and without end. That's a mind-expanding thought, isn't it? Scientists perceive the Big Bang (theory) as a single event which created the Universe. I saw that the Big Bang (theory) is only one of an infinite number of (so-called) Big Bangs creating Universes endlessly and simultaneously. The only images that even come close in human terms would be those created by supercomputers using fractal geometry equations.

The ancients knew of this. They said Godhead periodically created new Universes by breathing out, and de-creating other Universes by breathing in. These epochs were called Yugas. Modern science called this the Big Bang (theory). I was in absolute, pure consciousness. I could see or perceive all the Big Bangs or Yugas creating and de-creating themselves. Instantly I entered into them all simultaneously. I saw that each and every little piece of creation has the power to create. It is very difficult to try to explain this. I am still speechless about this.

It took me years after I returned to assimilate any words at all for the Void experience. I can tell you this now; the Void is less than nothing, yet more than everything that is! The Void is Absolute Consciousness; much more than even Universal Intelligence.

Where is the Void? I know. The Void* is inside and outside everything. You, right now even while you live, are always inside and outside the Void simultaneously. You don't have to go anywhere or die to get there. The Void is the vacuum or nothingness between all physical manifestations. The SPACE between atoms and their components.

* The Force - JAH.
King of kings' Bible - Thomas 1:6 But the Kingdom is within you and it is without you.
1:7 If you will know yourselves, then you will be known and you will know that you are the sons of the Living Father.
1:8 But if you do not know yourselves, then you are in poverty and you ARE poverty.

Modern science has begun to study this space between everything. They call it Zero-point. Whenever they try to measure it, their instruments go off the scale, or to infinity, so to speak. They have no way, as of yet, to measure infinity accurately*. There is more of the zero space in your own body and the Universe than anything else!

* How could a finite object measure infinity? How can infinity be zero, except in man's illogic? - JAH.

It is hard to explain...i can see why, the only thing that comes close to an unbalanced effect is the way the vaccum is the vaccum.

Well at end of the day my previous comment about energy spawning from positive vacuum seems to be right.

But to be honest with you i thought energy could be generated by negative vaccum or be self propelled between the two forces of the vaccum energy which cannot and i seem to think you need to match positive(vaccum) with positive(vaccum) to achieve a perpetual effect(using a circuit current flow wire prehaps? a wire that only allows one force to flow through it instead of two and replace the two polarity and use it with the zpe vaccum so postive and postive both together on one end), just a theory and might be wrong.

Also the opposite equivalent of the vacuum is well i don't know.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 20, 2017, 11:57:14 AM
I am being slapped to say the conversion law doesn't allow this, well the more i see the more i understand.

I wanted to start off with nature it is hooked up to possible equivalent of the zpe.

Positive void vacuum whatever always bangs on the door is all i have to say but is cut off and is incompatible.

This is why the device that show overunity is impossible i can see that but overunity is already achieved in nature i might add this is where the impossible comes from.

O well at the very very best is that it will be used for energy saving methods.

Thing like impossible em drive http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a24745/science-behind-em-drive/ (http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a24745/science-behind-em-drive/) this idea is born out of nature me thinks and does work.

So the only thing i have proof is that the earth accomplishes the impossible effect that is all the the only proof i have and isn't moot that is where the idea was born out of.

The em drive isn't using the zpe vaccum (negative vaccum/zpe conversion effect) but uses the (generating it self positive equivalent of the vaccum)accelerator wave of the earth with its unbalanced spin and thus doesn't conserve/conversion energy

They should know why it destorys energy in the conversion effect because they will discover it and disprove of the traitors who disprove of free energy wrong especially Einstein wrong as well but is tricky to achieve such a feat.

at the heart of zpe is the conversion effect and there are waves of motion(exactly like the accelerator effect that i am on about with earth or em drive) that disproves of this entirely.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 20, 2017, 04:29:54 PM
If there are no motion in Zpe then the converting or conversion is true because zpe is massless.

Then you will ask what causes the motion where it is tricky to answer and leave you speechless this is power to destory in the motion of waves from zpe, there shouldn't be any motion in zpe i might add by its nature regarding self combustion effect of zpe or consuming.

If you cannot create or destroy then and is correct but that means and is plain to me that it is massless and has no vibration or any motion.Because it is a mimick of the real force.and thus because of cannot create or destroy makes sense to me as why it is an equal force.

But for some reason it goes off to infinity and is hard to explain.

Either way using really simple physics it is clear that the impossible em drive works or the acceleration effect i am on about which is done by the earth for the earth, because it is connected to the opposite effect of zpe it self that is how it breaks the law simply put two different nature of energy.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 20, 2017, 06:04:22 PM
Just trying to simplify the process if you view it as a magnet mtor or gravity motor then that ios the very same basic physics i am using to apply for this.

If you can see it that way then you can see the impossible effect of the earth so in essence earth is breaking the laws of physics which it is.

A self running heat pump should not work according to the law of conversion..well to my understanding it is tapping into positive vaccum energy which isn't law of conversion and in any case it bypasses this law of conversion with ways off you know beating lenz law, if you can do that then you certainly achieve this and yes it wouldn't work thanks to conversion law but the way it is the heat pump externally gets energy from vaccum and is automatically connected to the positive vacuum which achieves this.

The heat pump beats the law of conversion, do you see where i am going with this?

So your fridge is beating the law of conversion, see?

if it doesn't beat the conversion law then you cannot extract energy from environment.

work it out and in any case i can see it with my really simple physics understanding.

If you know about how the heat pump works then add it to the understanding.

The heat pump has an open circuit which defys the conversion law and is in harmony with the enviroment.

So done with open circuit it returns energy back to nature, which is connected to positive vacuum energy and does not get cut off

so externally you have to collect the energy.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: LabDeSyn on October 20, 2017, 07:26:02 PM
Is overunity possible?

Yes! What we call living nature or life, exists only in a state of Overunity.
All living creatures are in fact energy converters.
Our idea about food as input energy is to narrow.
Our idea about physical strength as output energy is to narrow.
Because of that, we don't see the magic happen in our own existence...
Regards
Berto
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 20, 2017, 07:30:50 PM
Is overunity possible?

Yes! What we call living nature or life, exists only in a state of Overunity.
All living creatures are in fact energy converters.
Our idea about food as input energy is to narrow.
Our idea about physical strength as output energy is to narrow.
Because of that, we don't see the magic happen in our own existence...
Regards
Berto

The way the heat pump gets hotter to no end in potential is indeed breaking the law of conversion and should be cut off but doesn't regarding the design of heat pump in your fridge that is.

Just like a self running solar panel but done with the heat pump simple to understand and is achievable.

Solutions like the heat pump can be unlocked and used to fully defeat the conversion law to it's fullest.

This zero point force if you can call it a force, is lame. Radiant energy is incompatible energy and like positive and negative following each other, well with zpe being incompatible doesn't follow positive zero point is a negative energy so there must be a positive one outside of the box.

So if you want to think out of the box well it would be hard, i'd start with nature and look closely at nature.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 21, 2017, 10:40:34 AM

The way the heat pump gets hotter to no end in potential is indeed breaking the law of conversion and should be cut off but doesn't regarding the design of heat pump in your fridge that is.

Just like a self running solar panel but done with the heat pump simple to understand and is achievable.

Solutions like the heat pump can be unlocked and used to fully defeat the conversion law to it's fullest.

This zero point force if you can call it a force, is lame. Radiant energy is incompatible energy and like positive and negative following each other, well with zpe being incompatible doesn't follow positive zero point is a negative energy so there must be a positive one outside of the box.

So if you want to think out of the box well it would be hard, i'd start with nature and look closely at nature.

The accelerator effect breaks the law of conversion fully as well and that is present in earth/nature.

Like viewing it as to how to get past flux gates and the like.

View accelerator effect like a magnet motor or gravity motor using very simple physics.

As well as translating electron spin into movement the using very simple physics.
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Don't let lost in the world of conversion. this is an incompatible force.

Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 21, 2017, 05:12:10 PM
Due to how dangerous this is i have deleted what i previously have said.

E.t would prefer not to have its energy harvested only to be destoryed.

It would cause e.t to intervene .

It would leave e.t with no solution as how to solve the problem of it's energy being destroyed but to destroy the person who caused it.

They value their positive vacuum energy incredibly a lot.

zpe energy is already destoryed energy so i have removed my idea.

Anyways sub-traction method to work out about the power to destory regarding octaves.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 22, 2017, 11:13:34 AM
Regarding the accelerator effect the wave fluctuates giving excess power.

This fluctuate is the potential of giving excess power.

When it breaks the threshold it fluctuates.

edit

They have accepted my accelerator effect explanation and is now going to be implemented in college or university after all being slap with conversion law in my face this is a slap back then.

Anyways if you want to extract energy from vaccum (negative) then you have to activate the perpetual process in the vaccum done with the positive vaccum which is incompatible still but will work via absorbing the energy and the perpetual effect wakes up and is unlocked(activates) in the negative vaccum called zero point.

At present the perpetual effect likes dormant in zero point energy and needs the positive vacuum to activate and work.

Zero point energy has tgo use repulsion effect of both ends of the spectrum and both being negative (as opposed to having postive and negative in a power socket we all use) as zero point energy is fully negative energy and it will attract energy from positve vaccum but this will destory energy from positive vaccum.

Zero point has an opposite equivalent and that is true if you were to do this it would create a parallel path effect

I am thinking of accelerator effect to active perpetual force in zero point to work.

To achieve this it has to be same process where you spilt the atom it takes two negative forces to spilt the atom.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 23, 2017, 08:54:24 AM
Regarding the accelerator effect the wave fluctuates giving excess power.

This fluctuate is the potential of giving excess power.

When it breaks the threshold it fluctuates.

edit

They have accepted my accelerator effect explanation and is now going to be implemented in college or university after all being slap with conversion law in my face this is a slap back then.

Anyways if you want to extract energy from vaccum (negative) then you have to activate the perpetual process in the vaccum done with the positive vaccum which is incompatible still but will work via absorbing the energy and the perpetual effect wakes up and is unlocked(activates) in the negative vaccum called zero point.

At present the perpetual effect likes dormant in zero point energy and needs the positive vacuum to activate and work.

Zero point energy has tgo use repulsion effect of both ends of the spectrum and both being negative (as opposed to having postive and negative in a power socket we all use) as zero point energy is fully negative energy and it will attract energy from positve vaccum but this will destory energy from positive vaccum.

Zero point has an opposite equivalent and that is true if you were to do this it would create a parallel path effect

I am thinking of accelerator effect to active perpetual force in zero point to work.

To achieve this it has to be same process where you spilt the atom it takes two negative forces to spilt the atom.

So yeah if you cans see about extracting energy from negative zero point then zero point it self needs to extract energy for that as well then.

Zero point cannot self generate/perpetual what so ever, it zero point has to get energy from somewhere as well and all roads lead to zero point, it is the backbone of the energy world.

Then you say where is the energy coming from, and you say ney it comes from the positive completely opposite incompatible positive equivalent of the vacuum.

zpe is a leeching force

Zpe is a force with laws whereas the opposite equivalent has no laws.

We would all be dead if we fully use zero point energy, we have positive incompatible vacuum equivalent already present in our electric circuits.

If zero point was self generating we would all have free energy but isn't so i am right about zero point energy.

The unlocking effect of getting past laws comes from positive vaccum and the example is bypassing lenz law/conversion law which you can do yeah?

It comes from positive vaccum you know you cannot extract energy if when lenz law and conversion are in full effect so you get my point?

Like tapping into energy which you can do, this is coming from positve incompatible vaccum which enables you to do this which i know.

Should be obvious to you that zero point is incompatible with positive vaccum energy entire opposites one is all about laws (zpe) and the other has no laws which can bypass zpe laws.

When you break over cop 1 you will hit a brick wall regarding the conversion law so if you can bypass cop 1 you are breaking the rules of physics done via opposite positive equivalent of the vacuum

I hope that makes sence.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: antigrav89 on October 23, 2017, 01:31:46 PM
IMO, the ambiguity about overunity comes from the way energy efficiency ratio is defined.
In the case of electric circuits, we usually define it as the ratio of the output power to the input power, measured in the electric circuit.
But we should rather define it as the ratio of the useful output electric power to the absorbed power, the absorbed power having two origins: the input electrical power and the energy transfered from the active vacuum medium to the system (considered as a open system from the thermodynamic point of view i.e. able to exchange matter and energy with the outside environment).

To achieve energy conversions between the vacuum and the system, the vacuum must be described as a dynamical system possibly modeled as an infinite fluid. This fluid has to be compressible to allow waves to propagate with finite speed (as sound in air) and inviscid (non viscous) for not dissipating thermal energy. In this scheme, particles of matter have finite sizes and appear as stationary vortices. In the normal conditions, vacuum energy is uniformly distributed and matter continuously receives energy from the vacuum and radiates the same quantity of energy (so the mean energy balance is null). So, if this equilibrium is broken, energy has to flow to restore equilibrium. If this non-equilibrium state is maintained, a stationary current can be established.  If we consider the vacuum as a compressible fluid, its density can vary. So, if we are able to create a stationary vacuum energy density gradient, a energy current can be created between the system and the vacuum. Scalar wave solution of Maxwell equations allows non electromagnetic energy to propagate.

The main problem to solve is how to convert this energy into a coherent electromagnetic energy to create an electric current.
This involves that vacuum fluctuations (considered as electron-positron virtual pairs) must be stabilized to allow either the separation between electron and positron charges or the creation of superconducting pairs. The Big Bang theory tells us that such a charge separation is possible, because, assuming that matter emerged from vacuum energy fluctuations consisting of matter-antimatter pairs, matter and antimatter should be present in equal quantities and we should not exist. Several hypotheses might explain this unbalance state:  matter and anti-matter were (very) swiftly separated before mutually annihilating (but where is the anti-matter now?) or a part of anti-matter was converted into matter. Electric circuits where free energy is observed are generally composed of coils, capacitors and magnets (permanent or electromagnets) and the source of energy excess is often attributed to the magnets. Recent studies of magnetic materials that showed there exist numerous interesting interactions between electric current, spin current and the crystal lattice magnetic spins to create magnetic structures such as skyrmions might provide a further insight into ways of understanding how matter and energy interact in magnets.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 23, 2017, 01:41:24 PM
IMO, the ambiguity about overunity comes from the way energy efficiency ratio is defined.
In the case of electric circuits, we usually define it as the ratio of the output power to the input power, measured in the electric circuit.
But we should rather define it as the ratio of the useful output electric power to the absorbed power, the absorbed power having two origins: the input electrical power and the energy transfered from the active vacuum medium to the system (considered as a open system from the thermodynamic point of view i.e. able to exchange matter and energy with the outside environment).

To achieve energy conversions between the vacuum and the system, the vacuum must be described as a dynamical system possibly modeled as an infinite fluid. This fluid has to be compressible to allow waves to propagate with finite speed (as sound in air) and inviscid (non viscous) for not dissipating thermal energy. In this scheme, particles of matter have finite sizes and appear as stationary vortices. In the normal conditions, vacuum energy is uniformly distributed and matter continuously receives energy from the vacuum and radiates the same quantity of energy (so the mean energy balance is null). So, if this equilibrium is broken, energy has to flow to restore equilibrium. If this non-equilibrium state is maintained, a stationary current can be established.  If we consider the vacuum as a compressible fluid, its density can vary. So, if we are able to create a stationary vacuum energy density gradient, a energy current can be created between the system and the vacuum. Scalar wave solution of Maxwell equations allows non electromagnetic energy to propagate.

The main problem to solve is how to convert this energy into a coherent electromagnetic energy to create an electric current.
This involves that vacuum fluctuations (considered as electron-positron virtual pairs) must be stabilized to allow either the separation between electron and positron charges or the creation of superconducting pairs. The Big Bang theory tells us that such a charge separation is possible, because, assuming that matter emerged from vacuum energy fluctuations consisting of matter-antimatter pairs, matter and antimatter should be present in equal quantities and we should not exist. Several hypotheses might explain this unbalance state:  matter and anti-matter were (very) swiftly separated before mutually annihilating (but where is the anti-matter now?) or a part of anti-matter was converted into matter. Electric circuits where free energy is observed are generally composed of coils, capacitors and magnets (permanent or electromagnets) and the source of energy excess is often attributed to the magnets. Recent studies of magnetic materials that showed there exist numerous interesting interactions between electric current, spin current and the crystal lattice magnetic spins to create magnetic structures such as skyrmions might provide a further insight into ways of understanding how matter and energy interact in magnets.

Thanks for that makes sense to me.

Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on October 24, 2017, 10:33:39 PM
The person who came up with spitting the atom knew full well creation can in actual fact create or destroy but create and destroy are both incompatible to each other or not varying on how it is perceived which of course defy's cannot create or destroy.

So thanks to the guy who came up with splitting the atom i have now succeeded in accomplishing my idea.

So instead of being slapped with conversion law and being cut off that was my last hope and hooray it breaks all the laws of physics and bypasses the heart of conversion law.

The bit where zpe wakes up to smell the coffee (zpes/vaccum own perpetual process) in conjuction with the power to destory which is what zpe is i have now succeeded in getting zpe to perpetuate.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on January 03, 2018, 05:27:20 PM
So yea just to recap.

If you cannot create nor destory then we shouldn't exist simply put if you find the thing responsible for creating us to exist you will have cracked it on the head - i mean it is the holy grail of free energy it has power to create.

If you cannot go faster than the speed of light, what speed is infinity again am correct in saying it is instantaneous in speed no matter the distance.

Anyways happy new year all!

Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: sm0ky2 on January 04, 2018, 11:55:38 AM
I believe it was the same guy who figured out about atomic energy
That stated energy could not be created nor destroyed.
He also gave us the equation that relates energy to mass.
E=mc^2

Atoms are not destroyed in fissality, but rather converted to other forms of energy.
The energy output of this is the same energy that went into the fusion of its creation.

Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: sm0ky2 on January 04, 2018, 12:15:02 PM
The Law of Conversion is the fundamental principle of Thermodynamic Theory.
It sets the stage for the theoretical “closed system” (which itself is impossible)

The heat-pump, by definition, is not a closed system. But rather designed to
transfer thermal energy between two systems.
Both of which are also Not closed systems.

If it were possible to enclose all 3 of the systems in the heat-pump,
the theory states that they would reach thermodynamic equalibrium.
And once in this state, no heat would be further transferred.
This cannot be verified, due to the impossibility of closing the systems.

Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: AlienGrey on January 05, 2018, 12:22:13 AM
The Law of Conversion is the fundamental principle of Thermodynamic Theory.
It sets the stage for the theoretical “closed system” (which itself is impossible)

The heat-pump, by definition, is not a closed system. But rather designed to
transfer thermal energy between two systems.
Both of which are also Not closed systems.

If it were possible to enclose all 3 of the systems in the heat-pump,
the theory states that they would reach thermodynamic equilibrium.
And once in this state, no heat would be further transferred.
This cannot be verified, due to the impossibility of closing the systems.
Oh I don't think so, most laws are based on 'political correctness'
and since most of us know some things we don't by any means know it all
and to some in here all these threads are just a political soap box view to many.
no offense intended but if you read more you will find out more,

ps think out side the box

AG
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: sm0ky2 on January 05, 2018, 02:12:58 AM
reading without experience is how people end up believing those “laws”

it is better to both read AND experiment.

Thermodynamic theory (“law”) is the church of capitalism.
It governs our educational system

It cannot be proven, yet it is accepted as absolute fact.

Until we can get past this mythology as a society,
we here are Wilbur and Orville.

Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on January 05, 2018, 05:37:06 PM
reading without experience is how people end up believing those “laws”

it is better to both read AND experiment.

Thermodynamic theory (“law”) is the church of capitalism.
It governs our educational system

It cannot be proven, yet it is accepted as absolute fact.

Until we can get past this mythology as a society,
we here are Wilbur and Orville.

I for one would prefer to think out side of the box as much as possible, and would rather not believe the ''reading without experience is how people end up believing those “laws” so to speak.

If it cannot be proven then, then the fact is self evident all by it self.

I hope we can get past the myth as you put it.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: pauldude000 on February 08, 2018, 10:57:07 AM
I will put the answer to your question in a nutshell -- Yes.

Unity is a measurement of the energy provided and used within a closed system. Energy input/energy output = 1 (COP = 1 or unity)

If energy is entering the supposedly closed system from outside, then the system is actually an open system and over-unity is then possible, since the energy you provide to the system may just control or transform a much larger amount of energy.

Think of it this way, either the energy you input controls an unaccounted for source of energy, or it creates a situation where a new form of energy becomes usable that beforehand was not.

A really simplistic evaluation: If you saw a wire coming out from under a tarp and you connect a MOSFET to that wire along with another mysterious wire coming from under the tarp and then apply a voltage to open the gate of the MOSFET to allow electricity to flow, the battery under the tarp would be hidden from view, and therefore be unknown to you. You would not be able to account for its energy within your calculations and would show OU when the MOSFET goes bang.

In real examples, unknown sources of energy are comparable to the hypothetical battery in the example. Energy can neither be created nor destroyed, but it sure can be transformed, controlled, and manipulated.

If you managed to, just for giggles, locally stress space-time inducing a barrage of charged virtual particles into your supposedly closed system, would that not yield an "unknown hidden battery"?

;)

Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: blueplanet on February 10, 2018, 09:08:52 AM
Measurement can be wrong. In many electrical or electromagnetic systems, for instance, both input and output power can be distributed at different harmonics. Some of the input power may exist at a higher harmonic frequency in the form of waste heat. But this waste heat lost is usually not measurable using ordinary meters.  You may end up with COP>1 by measurement but your system cannot self-run for longer than 10 minutes.

The best way to test if a system is overunity or not is to check if it can continuously self-run for a week or so.  Another thing you can tell is to check if there exists any endothermic effect in the device. Energy lost in an underunity system is finally converted into waste heat. Being endothermic means that the process is reverse of underunity.

According to my experience, almost NONE of the electromagnetic devices that have been publicized as OU devices CAN self-run without an artificial power source.  It does not matter whether they are labeled as quantum energy or whatever.

Some devices harvest energy from the nature. They may not be called OU but they can at least turn on an LED.

I am under an impression we can find overunity in chemistry, particularly when the temperature approach absolute zero.

Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: sm0ky2 on February 10, 2018, 01:13:01 PM
https://www.mpg.de/research/negative-absolute-temperature (https://www.mpg.de/research/negative-absolute-temperature)
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: pauldude000 on February 11, 2018, 09:20:42 AM
Measurement can be wrong. In many electrical or electromagnetic systems, for instance, both input and output power can be distributed at different harmonics. Some of the input power may exist at a higher harmonic frequency in the form of waste heat. But this waste heat lost is usually not measurable using ordinary meters.  You may end up with COP>1 by measurement but your system cannot self-run for longer than 10 minutes.

The problem with overunity in such a situation as electromagnetism or EMR is that people are doing the standard approach whether they realize it or not. The standard approach cannot work, except for maybe small amounts due to inaccuracy of measurement or of testing systems, or small flaws in standard theory concerning efficiency of the standard as applied. They are trying to create a magnetic field with an electric current and are hoping to extract excess current from the current they supply. They are purposely creating a closed system and throwing the concept under the bus in doing so. To get actual OU in that manner will be an accident, not by design.

One of the problems I have noticed are that all the standards used with electricity do not reduce the electrons to their lowest possible energy state which means that all the testing methods are actually below COP=1. If you try to convert electricity to heat, there is still a usable current on the ground end of the resistance that can be used to perform work. I realize that you can get it close by measuring the voltage/current on both sides of the resistance and subtracting to see how much electricity is leftover, but it just goes to show that the conversion is incomplete and the measurement of the heat has to involve complete capture and measurement of said heat to be accurate. In that system it is hard to calculate heat loss to the environment as well, which further complicates the problem. Capturing all of the available energy to measure it can be close to impossible. All of this throws off the standard against which watt conversion depends upon for accuracy.

Many may not agree with me, but agreement is subjective.
Title: Re: Overunity is it possible?
Post by: sm0ky2 on February 11, 2018, 04:27:03 PM
Measurements of electricity are Always wrong.
We cannot know how much electrical energy we have.

We only know the potential voltage between our source and reference.

Current we may be able to have an accurate depiction of.
But never voltage.

If our reference is the earth, we can develop a standard of measure
But only relative to the earth ground (or earth positive by another method)
If we choose another point as our reference, the same source can have drastically
different voltage potentials.

For instance, an object insulated from earth may have a potential that is greater than
earth-ground. If this is our reference, the voltage is less from the same voltage source.
From the same perspective the reference itself has a potential to earth-ground.
We can find these objects with a meter to earth and test different objects.

If our reference is a point just outside the earth, our measured energy becomes
something to the tune of gigajoules, from the same source.
because the potential has increased by billions of volts.

Batteries are measured in potential only relative to themselves.
If it is an electrochemical battery, then we have a set energy value.
(in most methods of analysis)
because the reaction creates the potential.

Other voltage sources can be relativistic, only determined by our reference.
And in this form, the true “energy” quantity is unknown.

In electromagnetic induction, we create a potential between two ends of a coil,
and if this is our reference, we have a situation similar to the electrochemical battery.
However if the coil is in series with another reference, the same input force can result
in completely different energy measurements.

Now - does a voltage bias create extra energy?
No
Only a difference in measurement.

Let’s say we place a battery in series with an electret (or permanently charged object)
Our measurement shows more total power (because total potential measurement is greater)
But the available energy from the battery remains the same.

This is why we use earth ground, or ground electronics to the case
common-ground, common reference.
To standardize our measurements.
It has nothing to do with the actual value, only our perspective.