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Title: Exploring Sonoluminescence : a discussion on "Simple" replication methods
Post by: ramset on September 24, 2017, 06:59:20 PM
Here various methods will be discussed .. the goal being a running sonobubble
in the Lab [or kitchen table :}.


an open source project with many possibilities for all manner of experiments !

more info will be added over the next few days
any and all contributions  geared towards a simple running sono bubble experiment
are welcome here.

*****more to come*****
respectfully

Chet K

ps
for clarity on topic placement ,
here we have topic moderation ...and also resonance plays a huge part
in the electronic  methods for doing this sono bubble.

Title: Re: Exploring Sonoluminescence : a discussion on "Simple" replication methods
Post by: stivep on September 24, 2017, 08:47:22 PM
If some of you think about entertainment here  I can not promise you that.
No BS....
You want FE  you need to pay attention .
When I say that something works it works beyond any doubt and is replicatable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So search for word "Works" in my  posts


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It is quite  unique  approach to  FE including but not limited to water, ferrite, oil,  gas of density  higher than density  of gas trapped it it.
We are dealing with  thought to be  real nuclear phenomena  here.
 


Devil is in details!!:
again  please memorize it
Devil is in details!!:
Imagine discovering bubbles in your bathwater that are as hot as the sun’s surface.
You might wonder how they got there, and you wouldn’t be alone. For 70 years, physicists have puzzled over sonoluminescence, a process where sound waves create thousands of hot, luminous bubbles in water.
 picture1:
sonoluminescence is present also in various number of different medium and is not reserved to water only.

picture2:
sonoluminescence shows presence of number of  particles  present in the process( depends from medium used)
someone can  play with it introduce  other specious like   

particles:
-neutron,
- beta/beta minus -antimatter,

photons
-gamma
-x-ray
-UV


You can mechanically create cavity vortex or cavity bubble in centrifuge.
Please analyze some useful hints given in my video :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJpvcL43h-0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJpvcL43h-0)

some original links  used in this video are:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYS8WUBqXto&t=2192s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYS8WUBqXto&t=2192s)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=163&v=HOPCG8M30lI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=163&v=HOPCG8M30lI)

pictures from my video  worth  your attention: start from Wesley's news4
other  pictures are self explanatory


Picture Wesley's bite will not be explained at this time.
However it is 100 %working device producing (due to energy conversion). electrical  power .
Concept is not new  and it was used in space exploration successfully for decades.


For particles source not much to explain   is so easy.
Neutron gun is easy to build not much secret in it.


some links for now ( it will be more):
1. https://physics.aps.org/story/v7/st23 (https://physics.aps.org/story/v7/st23)

2. step by step how to do it:
http://www.gravesphysics.com/science-articles/sonoluminescence/ (http://www.gravesphysics.com/science-articles/sonoluminescence/)


3. something for your entertainment  might not open https://cdn.intechopen.com/pdfs-wm/40570.pdf (https://cdn.intechopen.com/pdfs-wm/40570.pdf)
you can also  try :
https://www.intechopen.com/books/energy-conservation/space-energy (https://www.intechopen.com/books/energy-conservation/space-energy)






Wesley






 







 
Title: Re: Exploring Sonoluminescence : a discussion on "Simple" replication methods
Post by: stivep on September 24, 2017, 11:32:19 PM
In every successful  device eg. Akula Ruslan  SR Lithuania experiment
We have seen  presence  of audible  sound coming from  ferrite.

Now how about  if we immerse  electromagnetically  vibrating ferrite  in longitudinal wave ( sound wave) and slowly change  frequency  , but not only frequency  ,  width   and shape of the signal  while  piezosounders are directly  attached to the ferrite core
At certain point   we  dealing with acoustical resonance and  harmonics.

we also affecting crystalline  of the ferrite and  anything possibly  trapped in it  might be  cavitatively  interacting
-it will manifest  itself



Wesley
Title: Re: Exploring Sonoluminescence : a discussion on "Simple" replication methods
Post by: ramset on September 25, 2017, 12:34:49 AM
Wesley

This is priceless for replication parameters

http://www.gravesphysics.com/science-articles/sonoluminescence/

looking for more specs on the mentioned **Teachspin apparatus

so as to minimize costs to the Builders/replicators.

** more info /details to be added here .

@ Wesley
a wonderful Contribution which will greatly expedite replications and enhancements .

very exciting indeed.

with gratitude and appreciation

Chet
PS
all "on topic" comments appreciated, this is a moderated section of Stefan's forum.



Title: Re: Exploring Sonoluminescence : a discussion on "Simple" replication methods
Post by: ramset on September 26, 2017, 05:33:53 PM
Cavity resonance is also on the table here,since it has become obvious that it can play a bigg role

so regardless of opinions to the contrary....[to note there are STRONG opinions here against WITTS Claim below actually working ]


it is now on the table being scheduled for experiments .

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=WITTS+ministries+worlds+most+efficient+hot+water+heater&view=detail&mid=9BA53747AC4402A2D5659BA53747AC4402A2D565&FORM=VIRE

most of what we need for the sonobubble build can be multitasked into "sir Thrapp's" claim/vetting.

lots going on in preparation here  for the OPEN SOURCE experiments.

Chet
Title: Re: Exploring Sonoluminescence : a discussion on "Simple" replication methods
Post by: gotoluc on September 26, 2017, 05:34:01 PM
The below videos should be of interest.


Cavitation Energy Systems CES claims a COP of over 5


Most recent video Apr. 2017: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji0GAt-q2EM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji0GAt-q2EM)


All videos by date: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAXnRmMOQtkl3gfC0TSQTPA/videos?view=0&shelf_id=0&sort=dd (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAXnRmMOQtkl3gfC0TSQTPA/videos?view=0&shelf_id=0&sort=dd)
Title: Re: Exploring Sonoluminescence : a discussion on "Simple" replication methods
Post by: ramset on September 27, 2017, 03:38:39 PM
Luc
oddly enuff
your Vid link at 16-19 + min mark shows the result of adding things to the Mix
in this case salts...
your link again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji0GAt-q2EM

there are some other  "salts" [Li ] which have been claimed to greatly effect the Bond strength of the water molecule.

these metal "salts" have always been  on the Build menu for experiments here.

and many Thanks to member Johan for the "salt" tip.....

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Title: Re: Exploring Sonoluminescence : a discussion on "Simple" replication methods
Post by: ramset on October 07, 2017, 12:10:36 AM
All
just an update

the Sono bubble experiments seem like they're going to come together faster than I thought.[hopefully starting late next week]

and the WITTS water heater experiment which apparently will be using many of the same bits and pieces
is also on the table .

good stuff indeed !!



Title: Re: Exploring Sonoluminescence : a discussion on "Simple" replication methods
Post by: profitis on October 11, 2017, 01:59:58 AM
"good stuff indeed !!"

I`l say but cannit do the trick
Title: Re: Exploring Sonoluminescence : a discussion on "Simple" replication methods
Post by: stivep on October 19, 2017, 11:53:10 PM
https://academic.oup.com/rpd/article-abstract/6/1-4/203/3108175/On-Piezoluminescence-in-Irradiated-Alkali-Halides (https://academic.oup.com/rpd/article-abstract/6/1-4/203/3108175/On-Piezoluminescence-in-Irradiated-Alkali-Halides)
explanation of different forms of luminescence
in:LIST OF IMAGES

1. Luminescence (https://wikivisually.com/wiki/Luminescence) – Luminescence is emission of light by a substance not resulting from heat; it is thus a form of cold-body radiation. It can be caused by chemical reactions, electrical energy, subatomic motions or stress on a crystal, which all are ultimately caused by Spontaneous emission.
This distinguishes luminescence from incandescence, which is light emitted by a substance as a result of heating. Historically, radioactivity was thought of as a form of "radio-luminescence", although it is today considered to be separate since it involves more than electromagnetic radiation.
 The dials, hands, scales, and signs of aviation and navigational instruments and markings are often coated with luminescent materials in a process known as "luminising".
 Types The following are types of luminescence:

 Chemiluminescence, the emission of light as a result of a chemical reaction Bioluminescence, a result of biochemical reactions in a living organism
 Electrochemiluminescence, a result of an electrochemical reaction Lyoluminescence, a result of dissolving a solid (usually heavily irradiated) in a
 liquid solvent Candoluminescence, is light emitted by certain materials at elevated temperatures, which differs from the blackbody emission expected at the temperature in question.
 Crystalloluminescence, produced during crystallization
Electroluminescence, a result of an electric current passed through a substance
Cathodoluminescence, a result of a luminescent material being struck by electrons
Mechanoluminescence, a result of a mechanical action on a solid
Triboluminescence, generated when bonds in a material are broken when that material is scratched, crushed, or rubbed
Fractoluminescence, generated when bonds in certain crystals are broken by fractures
Piezoluminescence, produced by the action of pressure on certain solids Sonoluminescence, a result of imploding bubbles in a liquid when excited by sound
Photoluminescence, a result of absorption of photons Fluorescence, photoluminescence as a result of singlet–singlet electronic relaxation (typical lifetime: nanoseconds) Phosphorescence, photoluminescence as a result of triplet–singlet electronic relaxation (typical lifetime: milliseconds to hours)
Raman emission, photoluminescence as a result of inelastic light scattering, (lifetime: nanoseconds)
Radioluminescence, a result of bombardment by ionizing radiation
Thermoluminescence, the re-emission of absorbed energy when a substance is heatedCryoluminescence, the emission of light when an object is cooled (an example of this is wulfenite) Applications Light-emitting diodes (LEDs) emit light via electro-luminescence.
Phosphors, materials that emit light when irradiated by higher-energy electromagnetic radiation or particle radiation Phosphor thermometry, measuring temperature using phosphorescence



https://academic.oup.com/rpd/article-abstract/6/1-4/203/3108175/On-Piezoluminescence-in-Irradiated-Alkali-Halides (https://academic.oup.com/rpd/article-abstract/6/1-4/203/3108175/On-Piezoluminescence-in-Irradiated-Alkali-Halides)
On Piezoluminescence in Irradiated Alkali Halides     Abstract The emission of light under application of pressure was recorded from irradiated crystals of NaCl, KCl, KBr and polycrystalline chips of LiF (TLD-100) as a function of dose of gamma rays imparted to the specimens.
 The paper gives details of experimental procedures and apparatus. The dose range covered was from 0.3 Gy to 1 kGy.


The purpose of this post is to point at near hot fusion  temperatures in sonoluminescence  as an result of mechanical longitudinal wave ( acoustical) .
After cold fusion rejection scientists are very careful with  new radical or revolutionary statements.
For us important is to fallow energy conversion and presence of sonoluminescence in different mediums.
Sonoluminescence by itself is  a nuclear response to mechanical PRESSURE WAVE such one is created in nature by some crabs .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC6I8iPiHT8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC6I8iPiHT8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXK2G2AzMTU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXK2G2AzMTU)
One of the subjects  in question is  to find and prove   means of such interaction  in presence of :
alpha
beta
gamma
neutron( thermal neutron)
And publish practical energy conversion mechanism

No money ask and results should be free

Wesley
Title: Re: Exploring Sonoluminescence : a discussion on "Simple" replication methods
Post by: ramset on October 20, 2017, 12:14:10 AM
Wesley
We decided to pass on the unit which was missing the horn assembly [tight budget here] ,glad you scooped it up !:}

it sure is a beauty !!

maybe some reader here can offer a suggestion for an inexpensive replacement or perhaps some specs /blueprint on the
Horn assy ??

Chet
Title: Re: Exploring Sonoluminescence : a discussion on "Simple" replication methods
Post by: stivep on October 20, 2017, 12:22:12 AM
Wesley
We decided to pass on the unit which was missing the horn assembly [tight budget here] ,glad you scooped it up !:}

it sure is a beauty !!

maybe some reader here can offer a suggestion for an inexpensive replacement or perhaps some specs /blueprint on the
Horn assy ??

Chet

I pass on it  for the first time but than
I  was attracted  to it again since no one  purchased it.
Today I spoke to PhD who originally designed it   he quoted me with 2500 for the horn. I'm negotiating the price.  The company does not make it anymore

Wesley
Title: Re: Exploring Sonoluminescence : a discussion on "Simple" replication methods
Post by: ramset on October 20, 2017, 12:46:23 AM
Would be nice just to find a Good mechanical drawing of the horn ?

it is a simple piece ,even if he can tell us where there is a unit on the east coast [which schools ??] might be able to take a few measurements ??
somebody obviously purchased the horn assy from the Guy who was selling these two units ,he said the lab where "they" came from was a newer lab , the seller bought the entire lab for resale .

Chet
Title: Re: Exploring Sonoluminescence : a discussion on "Simple" replication methods
Post by: stivep on October 20, 2017, 01:27:20 AM
If 'i decide to purchase the horn
I will make close look  on it. the max
I 'm willing to spend   1 grand 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemstone_irradiation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemstone_irradiation)
The gemstone irradiation is a process in which a gemstone (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemstone) is artificially irradiated (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irradiation) in order to enhance its optical properties. High levels of ionizing radiation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionizing_radiation) can change the atomic structure (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_structure) of the gemstone's crystal lattice (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_lattice), which in turn alters the optical properties within it.[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemstone_irradiation#cite_note-Hurlbut_170-1) As a result, the gemstone's color may be significantly altered or the visibility of its inclusions may be lessened. The process, widely practised in jewelry industry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewelry_industry),[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemstone_irradiation#cite_note-Omi-2) is done in either a nuclear reactor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_reactor) for neutron (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron) bombardment, a particle accelerator (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Particle_accelerator) for electron (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron) bombardment, or a gamma ray (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_ray) facility using the radioactive isotope (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioactive_isotope) cobalt-60 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobalt-60).[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemstone_irradiation#cite_note-Hurlbut_170-1)[3] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemstone_irradiation#cite_note-NRC-3) Irradiation has enabled the creation of gemstone colors that do not exist or are extremely rare in nature.[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemstone_irradiation#cite_note-Hurlbut_170-1)


Interesting here is alteration of atomic structure by gamma photons.
And when you compare it with picture up high 

On Piezoluminescence in Irradiated Alkali Halides  . You'll  find something in common.But any of these processes leads to energy exchange.
Example: Imagine that you have lever that you must push down for the water in the pipe to flow.
You do not pay for the water flow (river pays for it)so that what is left now is to replace your hand   on the handle with some sort of force holding it down.
Bottom line is that we need to be able to attract and control  energy end energy conversion using  controlling mechanism    free of charge as well.

Decaying isotopes are ideal  for that  function.
 


Picture below shows assembly where 
i believe single   piezoelectric disc is placed in closed cavity on the top  and sound than is narrow  nozzle   down  into open end of the pipe immersed in the water.
the device stands for single bubble sonoluminescence

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the second picture down from the top shows examples of industrial resonators
http://www.krell-engineering.com/fea/industr/industrial_resonators.htm (http://www.krell-engineering.com/fea/industr/industrial_resonators.htm)

https://ndeaa.jpl.nasa.gov/nasa-nde/usdc/usdc.htm    or http://ndeaa.jpl.nasa.gov/nasa-nde/usdc/UTdrill.gif  this link shows how concentration of energy in stepped horn is done ( look at picture  down)

Wesley
Title: Re: Exploring Sonoluminescence : a discussion on "Simple" replication methods
Post by: stivep on October 20, 2017, 02:15:16 AM
http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/0963-0252/15/1/008 (http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/0963-0252/15/1/008)
As we  deal in sonoluminescence with thermal instability  but most of us experiment with Tesla coil and its corona this is an article  that is pointing at phenomena observed during  such thermal instability  and
HV

Ultrasound and airflow induced thermal instability suppression of DC corona discharge:
Abstract  The effect of ultrasound waves, airflow and combined ultrasound with the airflow on the thermal instability suppression of a hollow needle-to-plate electrical discharge was studied experimentally. To evaluate the thermal instability suppression we used the V–A characteristics of the discharge in stationary air, with ultrasound applied in stationary air, and finally when the airflow was supplied into the discharge through the needle without and with ultrasound application. To illustrate the effect of ultrasound, airflow and combined ultrasound with airflow on the discharge thermal instability suppression we also studied the discharge ozone production.
We found that in stationary air the application of ultrasound only slightly suppresses thermal instability. A substantial increase of ozone generation was not detected. Application of the airflow through the needle suppressed development of the thermal instability and resulted in a substantial increase of the discharge current. The ozone generation was strongly increased in comparison with the preceding case. The combined application of ultrasound and airflow through the needle caused further instability suppression and consequently an increase of the discharge current. The effect of ultrasound on the current–voltage range of the discharge was, however, smaller than the effect of the airflow through the needle. Nevertheless production of ozone was still substantially increased.


And now think what happen in
Lithuania Experiment  where 
Russian ferrite ring from  Russian  TV ( Yoke) was vibrating with sound induced by  coil.
The structure of the ferrite is made from zillions of ferrite  magnetic domains  insulated electrically  and magnetically.

I think
I've  got it...

Wow...

why Tariel was  pushing for hydroelectric  concept of his generator so much !!!!!!!!!


i know a lot about his generator but
i was never able to understand his  hydroelectric concept.

Wesley
Title: Re: Exploring Sonoluminescence : a discussion on "Simple" replication methods
Post by: stivep on October 20, 2017, 07:59:30 PM
http://web.physics.ucsb.edu/~phys128/experiments/sonolumin/SonoRev2007.pdf
This PDF gives you all information about single bubble sonoluminescence

Wesley

Title: Re: Exploring Sonoluminescence : a discussion on "Simple" replication methods
Post by: stivep on October 20, 2017, 08:28:42 PM
http://www.ptolomeo.unam.mx:8080/xmlui/bitstream/handle/132.248.52.100/1003/MORALESROMERO.pdf?sequence=1 (http://www.ptolomeo.unam.mx:8080/xmlui/bitstream/handle/132.248.52.100/1003/MORALESROMERO.pdf?sequence=1)
 This one is in Spanish but this is marvels material if someone knows how to translate it into English it will help a lot
This one explains energy transfer
mechanism  we are looking for based on processes inside single atom.

Wesley
Title: Re: Exploring Sonoluminescence : a discussion on "Simple" replication methods
Post by: stivep on October 20, 2017, 09:14:36 PM
getting parts
https://www.ebay.com/itm/4-Ultrasonic-Piezoelectric-Element-PIEZO-Ceramic-Transducer-Ring-D35x15x5-/321525202253?epid=1942930212&hash=item4adc653d4d:g:ExEAAOxyKsZRuy8i (https://www.ebay.com/itm/4-Ultrasonic-Piezoelectric-Element-PIEZO-Ceramic-Transducer-Ring-D35x15x5-/321525202253?epid=1942930212&hash=item4adc653d4d:g:ExEAAOxyKsZRuy8i)
https://www.acoustics.co.uk/product-category/ultrasonic-transducers/ (https://www.acoustics.co.uk/product-category/ultrasonic-transducers/)


Wesley
Title: Re: Exploring Sonoluminescence : a discussion on "Simple" replication methods
Post by: TinselKoala on October 20, 2017, 10:20:33 PM
This is the kind of transducer and high-power driver that you need:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/100W-28KHz-Ultrasonic-Cleaning-Transducer-Cleaner-Power-Driver-Board-220VAC-/401298115936?epid=1178493272&hash=item5d6f3b4d60:g:fjkAAOSwARZXjuFj

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Frequency-display-AC110V-300W-ultrasonic-cleaner-driver-board-8pcs-transducer-/112154032672?hash=item1a1ce6ba20:g:pO0AAOSwMpZUmlUQ

The transducer assembly can be coupled to the water chamber by adding a "horn" or spike screwed into the threaded hole in the end mass. The driver board can be fine-tuned electronically and/or the reaction chamber itself can be tuned mechanically to attain the correct vibrational modes and nodes within the chamber.

Title: Re: Exploring Sonoluminescence : a discussion on "Simple" replication methods
Post by: stivep on October 20, 2017, 10:36:54 PM
This is the kind of transducer and high-power driver that you need:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/100W-28KHz-Ultrasonic-Cleaning-Transducer-Cleaner-Power-Driver-Board-220VAC-/401298115936?epid=1178493272&hash=item5d6f3b4d60:g:fjkAAOSwARZXjuFj (https://www.ebay.com/itm/100W-28KHz-Ultrasonic-Cleaning-Transducer-Cleaner-Power-Driver-Board-220VAC-/401298115936?epid=1178493272&hash=item5d6f3b4d60:g:fjkAAOSwARZXjuFj)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Frequency-display-AC110V-300W-ultrasonic-cleaner-driver-board-8pcs-transducer-/112154032672?hash=item1a1ce6ba20:g:pO0AAOSwMpZUmlUQ (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Frequency-display-AC110V-300W-ultrasonic-cleaner-driver-board-8pcs-transducer-/112154032672?hash=item1a1ce6ba20:g:pO0AAOSwMpZUmlUQ)

The transducer assembly can be coupled to the water chamber by adding a "horn" or spike screwed into the threaded hole in the end mass. The driver board can be fine-tuned electronically and/or the reaction chamber itself can be tuned mechanically to attain the correct vibrational modes and nodes within the chamber.
Thank you  my friend for  your help
I'm afraid that  frequency of 28kHz is to low for sonoluminescence
Power level is good.
So I should have two sets of sl100B  when I get the package  I will see if one of them will be  spare one.
( 2 times 3 pieces )
I'm tempted to just give away one set,
That means for free including shipping.
 But first I must see how much all of it will cost me with the shipping expenses and if I can afford  such generosity . I did not see my own invoice as of yet. Just got  the pictures .




the set looks like here

 


Wesley
Title: Re: Exploring Sonoluminescence : a discussion on "Simple" replication methods
Post by: ramset on October 21, 2017, 05:59:12 PM
Wesley
here it seems 27KHZ is used ? [28KHZ tunable seems close ??

also vessel size and water level can alter this a bit ?

Chet

Title: Re: Exploring Sonoluminescence : a discussion on "Simple" replication methods
Post by: TinselKoala on October 21, 2017, 06:51:10 PM
Quote
I'm afraid that  frequency of 28kHz is to low for sonoluminescence

Ah.... no.


Quoting from the UCSB pdf file that Wesley linked in Post #15 above, on Page 4 of the pdf:
And from the TeachSpin specifications of the system Wesley has purchased:
Title: Re: Exploring Sonoluminescence : a discussion on "Simple" replication methods
Post by: stivep on October 21, 2017, 07:57:25 PM
Yes you right  and you are not
Sonoluminescence is present in very low frequencies and very high  frequencies of ultrasound bandwidth.
Blades of ships and boats  rotates with different speed but damage shown on blades  of turbines is present with fast rotating turbines at most.

First we need to go to Cavitation:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavitation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavitation)
1."Cavitation is the formation of vapour cavities in a liquid, small liquid-free zones ("bubbles" or "voids"), that are the consequence of forces acting upon the liquid. It usually occurs when a liquid is subjected to rapid changes of pressure (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pressure) that cause the formation of cavities in the liquid where the pressure is relatively low. When subjected to higher pressure, the voids implode and can generate an intense shock wave (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock_wave)."

2."Non-inertial cavitation is the process in which a bubble in a fluid is forced to oscillate in size or shape due to some form of energy input, such as an acoustic field (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound). Such cavitation is often employed in ultrasonic cleaning (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultrasonic_cleaning) baths and can also be observed in pumps, propellers, etc."

3."Since the shock waves formed by collapse of the voids are strong enough to cause significant damage to moving parts, cavitation is usually an undesirable phenomenon. It is very often specifically avoided in the design of machines such as turbines or propellers, and eliminating cavitation is a major field in the study of fluid dynamics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluid_dynamics). However, it is sometimes useful and does not cause damage when the bubbles collapse away from machinery, such as in supercavitation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercavitation)."

4."Supercavitation is the use of cavitation effects to create a bubble (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bubble_(physics)) of steam (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam) inside a liquid (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid) large enough to encompass an object travelling through the liquid, greatly reducing the skin friction drag (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drag_(physics)) on the object and enabling achievement of very high speeds"

5."A supercavitating object is a high speed submerged object that is designed to initiate a cavitation bubble at the nose which (either naturally or augmented with internally generated gas) extends past the aft (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aft) end of the object, substantially reducing the skin friction drag that would be present if the sides of the object were in contact with the liquid in which the object is submerged. A key feature of the supercavitating object is the nose, which may be shaped as a flat disk or cone, and may be articulated, but which likely has a sharp edge around the perimeter behind which the cavitation bubble forms.[6]" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercavitation#cite_note-SciAm2001-6)
Note:That means we can control  the shape  of the buble.
Cavitation is one of elements of sonoluminescence


6. The shape of the object aft of the nose will generally be slender in order to stay within the limited diameter of the cavitation bubble. If the bubble is of insufficient length to encompass the object, especially at slower speeds, the bubble can be enlarged and extended by injection of high pressure gas near the object's nose.[6] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercavitation#cite_note-SciAm2001-6)
Note:
a. the nose can be also the tip of sonoluminescence supporting  horn emitting ultrasound ,
b. the emitter of alpha beta gamma neutron.
- alpha and beta neutron are particles
- we need to explore  particles behavior in temperatures of 10 times the temperature of sun surface.
- we use for it  alpha beta gamma  natural emitters
- Neutron should be in form of thermal neutrons some Am241+ piece of beryllium foil + some plastic to slow neutrons.
c.https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/transcoded/6/67/Cavitation_in_a_gear_pump.ogv/Cavitation_in_a_gear_pump.ogv.480p.webm (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/transcoded/6/67/Cavitation_in_a_gear_pump.ogv/Cavitation_in_a_gear_pump.ogv.480p.webm)
d.
the nose of the horn can have most if not all of point b functions at once.!!


Note:
we can see that cavitation  is possible in different  mediums including some oils .
Kapanadze-
one of his devices called hydroelectric device . Word "hydro" stipulates water  as a medium but some additions to that fluid are possible


Legal Note:
Word "we" used here, does not reflects  any encouraging nor invitation, nor any form of suggestion , simple statement is- do not do it ever  do not play with it ever/ end of note.
non legal comment  :) :) :) :) :)



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Evolution of Tariel Kapanadze device:
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was at first his prior to  his green box the device presented to ministry of finance of Turkey in presence of his future partners in business ( three high rank military officers) in just nearly formed TMZ.
-However  Tariel presentation to Shevardnadze
"Following the dissolution of the Soviet Union, he was President of Georgia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_Georgia) (or in equivalent posts) from 1992 to 2003. He was forced to retire in 2003 as a consequence of the bloodless Rose Revolution (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_Revolution)." and his electrical engineer  took place in one of abandoned after  soviet times  huge  warehouse.  and that one for the first time  was his hydroelectric  device. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eduard_Shevardnadze (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eduard_Shevardnadze).
-There is mix opinion about presentation to Mikheil Saakashvili
Mikheil Saakashvili ( He was the third President of Georgia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_Georgia) for two consecutive terms from 25 January 2004 to 17 November 2013. From May 2015 until November 2016 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikheil_Saakashvili (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikheil_Saakashvili)

My personal  conversation  with Tariel :
- All electricity in that Tbilisi  region was disconnected for the time of Tariel presentation by President  order.
- At that presentation  engineer assigned by President Office was documenting the device and all people involved  with camera operator I believe I can still  have contact with.    :)
- Tariel complained  about  President reaction  at first promising and very much encouraging   and than it looks like  President "cashed out" his "doing nothing"  big time. with "whoever" was  not happy about  it.
- Tariel  mentioned to me   some specifics  and he said that we have quote: different president now" (means   Mikheil Saakashvili)

Note: We may speculate  why Tariel  was not  eliminated  at that time .Well he was under strong protection  (some of them Turkish future TMZ guys )
At second  it was possibly not in favor of  the guy soon stepping  off-  presidency of Georgia, to bring attention to any "dead body" and activating all of the witnesses of  such  presentation , expecting now their piece of cake for their willingness  to  shut up.
And soon the power is no longer in president hands so is his wealth that he was able to accumulate during his time if  the news  goes to the public.
Till today Tariel remains very much unknown to Georgia.

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Piezoelectric resonator - the horn
http://cdn.intechopen.com/pdfs/24193/intech-horn_type_piezoelectric_ultrasonic_transducer_modelling_and_applications.pdffrom (http://cdn.intechopen.com/pdfs/24193/intech-horn_type_piezoelectric_ultrasonic_transducer_modelling_and_applications.pdffrom) the article you can learn more about designing  and properties  of the horn  including frequencies and modes of operation
Wesley
Title: Re: Exploring Sonoluminescence : a discussion on "Simple" replication methods
Post by: TinselKoala on October 21, 2017, 08:28:43 PM
Wesley, try and get a grip. I know you are excited but perhaps you could slow down and actually read some of the material you have linked to.

I linked two driver/transducer setups that are designed to operate at 28 kHz with high power. I pointed out that one system is tunable out of the box and the other could be tuned very easily by simple alterations of components on the driver board. In addition, the _correct_ frequency for SBSL is determined by the geometry of the cell, which can also be tuned.

You then claimed that 28 kHz was too low for sonoluminescence. This statement of yours is clearly wrong.

Then Chet and I both demonstrated that the commercial TeachSpin chamber and associated apparatus which you purchased was DESIGNED to operate at or near 27-28 kHz. The design frequency depends on the geometry of the chamber, which is sized so as to support a specific standing wave of a specific frequency: in this case 27 - 28 kHz. The power amplifier in the TeachSpin control box is optimized for this frequency range.

Furthermore, the transducers that I linked use the same kind of torodial piezoelectric elements as in the link you posted, but also incorporate the Front Mass and Back Mass and connecting terminals all assembled together. They come with a threaded hole in the Front Mass where a rod "Horn" may be easily attached, to make the full assembly for which you so kindly provided a diagram. You could make a horn transducer exactly equivalent to your missing TeachSpin transducer simply by cutting a solid aluminum or steel rod to the appropriate length, and threading one end to match the hole in the Front Mass.

Your information about cavitation and supercavitation is well known but only peripherally related to the phenomenon of single-bubble sonoluminescense. And whatever you may believe about Tariel Kapanadze, his work --if you can call it that-- is completely irrelevant to this topic. Do you really believe "All electricity in that Tbilisi region was disconnected for the time of Tariel presentation by President order" ? Then you should also explain how it is that his house lights were still lit.

But whatever, dude. Have fun with your new toys. I hope you can get some nice pictures of your tiny and expensive sonoluminescence bubble.


(And if you are wondering why you have to scroll right to read this post or find the "reply" etc buttons ... it is because "Somebody" posted an image up above that is TOO WIDE.)
Title: Re: Exploring Sonoluminescence : a discussion on "Simple" replication methods
Post by: stivep on October 21, 2017, 08:37:46 PM
I stated in my previous comment
that the answer is  yes and no.
I provided  an explanation why Yes and why no.
You just did not see it.
The main point is:
sonoluminescence is present in different frequencies of ultrasound band ( look at my post up)
I pointed that the most damage of turbines blades is present in fast rotating turbines where frequency of ultrasound ( supported by Wikipedia) is higher.

So by the fact that someone is satisfied with  plain bread and other wants to have full flavor of a diner we may say   You can drive sonoluminescence with 27kHz  and lower
but for these who want to  try  motor bike instead of bicycle  and be in wider control of their speed, there is whole world   around

With most of  the scientific literature I was able to see the most abandon topic is properties of   such reaction.
voltage
temperature  of the bubble is only approximated
pressure
photon emission
energy transfer
losses
acoustic impedance
delta T of the bubble ( life time)
 
....and so on


I do appreciate your criticism  however if you want to help  than please find me that Spanish article from above in English or just translate it for me.
With all do respect I haven't  been able to speak Spanish  nor having slight interest in understanding it.
Quote
http://www.ptolomeo.unam.mx:8080/xmlui/bitstream/handle/132.248.52.100/1003/MORALESROMERO.pdf?sequence=1 (http://www.ptolomeo.unam.mx:8080/xmlui/bitstream/handle/132.248.52.100/1003/MORALESROMERO.pdf?sequence=1)
 This one is in Spanish but this is marvels material if someone knows how to translate it into English it will help a lot
This one explains energy transfer
mechanism  we are looking for based on processes inside single atom.

here is very old paper  about sonoluminescence:
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/403347.pdf (http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/403347.pdf)

And this article is very nice explanation of Two-frequency driven single-bubble sonoluminescence
http://www.dpi.physik.uni-goettingen.de/~robert/paper_pdf/JASA2f.pdf (http://www.dpi.physik.uni-goettingen.de/~robert/paper_pdf/JASA2f.pdf)

In journal of modern physics: http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.205.6108&rep=rep1&type=pdf (http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.205.6108&rep=rep1&type=pdf)
Abstract.
We   review recent attempts to  elucidate the   phenomenon of sonoluminescence in terms of  fundamental principles. We   focus mainly on the   processes which generate
the   light, but other relevant facts, such as the bubble dynamics, must also be  considered for the  understanding of  the physics involved. Our emphasis is on single
bubble sonoluminescence which in recent years has   received much attention, but  we also look at some of the   excellent work on  multiple bubble sonoluminescence and
its  spectral characteristics for  clues. The weakly ionized gas   models were recently studied most thoroughly and are remarkably successful when
combined with a hydrodynamic bubble model, in terms of  reproducing observed spectral shapes, intensities, optical pulse widths and   the dependencies
 of these observables on the   experimental parameters. Other radiation models, such
as proton tunnelling
radiation
and the conned electron model,
were not combined with hydrodynamic models and/or have freely adjustable parameters so  that their relevance to sonoluminescence studies is at present less critically tested.


Wesley
Title: Re: Exploring Sonoluminescence : a discussion on "Simple" replication methods
Post by: itsu on October 21, 2017, 09:30:39 PM

A similar setup as used in the mentioned Spanish article (sorry, i don't speak Spanish) can be found here:
http://techmind.org/sl/#flask

I see some pictures from that article in earlier posts from Stivep, but no link to it.
It contains some very usefull info on the used flask, transducers etc. and how to set it up.


Sound in water (temp. dependent) is about 1480 m/s (20°C)   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_sound#/media/File:Speed_of_sound_in_water.svg
So at 25Khz a full wave spans 1480 / 25000 = 0.059m = 5.9cm what probably the diameter of the used flask should be.

Some nice explanation about this can be found here:
http://academic.evergreen.edu/curricular/PhyAstro/0506/researchProjects/finished/Sono2.doc

Itsu
Title: Re: Exploring Sonoluminescence : a discussion on "Simple" replication methods
Post by: ramset on October 21, 2017, 09:33:40 PM
I will try to get the article translated tomorrow .

thanks for all the info !

there are many others reading here who are just seeing this for the first time and honestly

It is quite fascinating !

Chet
PS
also quite happy that more exotic experiments are on the menu !

Title: Re: Exploring Sonoluminescence : a discussion on "Simple" replication methods
Post by: stivep on October 21, 2017, 11:41:01 PM
for these who are still opt of 28kHz
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1pc-60W-28KHZ-PZT-4-Ultrasonic-Piezoelectric-Cleaning-Transducer-Cleaner-/263237207486?hash=item3d4a2905be:g:Z3AAAOSwgkRVStWV

The seller did not show spec or full view all around

Wesley
Title: Re: Exploring Sonoluminescence : a discussion on "Simple" replication methods
Post by: Acca on October 25, 2017, 01:30:51 PM
Wesley:

 Well you are too late de “Italian” discovery was killed by the dogmatic so called “scientists” in the USA just like cold fusion .. Science is now a dead horse.. with no real research anymore .. RIP discoveries ..
 
Acca…



Ps.

 Polish great man is no more RIP the best scientist in LNER ..

http://slideplayer.com/slide/6660823/ (http://slideplayer.com/slide/6660823/)
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IZ34Wwa-AE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IZ34Wwa-AE)[/font]
 Ultrasonic Cavitation and Piezonuclear Reactions[/font]
 Cardone Fabio1, Cherubini Giovanni3, Mignani Roberto2, 4, Perconti Walter5, Pessa Eliano6, Petrucci Andrea1, 4, Rosetto Francesca3, Spera Guido7 1Istituto per lo Studio dei Materiali Nanostrutturati (ISMN — CNR) 2GNFM, Istituto Nazionale di Alta Matematica “F.Severi” 3ARPA Radiation Laboratories 4Dipartimento di Fisica “E.Amaldi” , Università degli Studi “Roma Tre” 5Climate and Applied Meteorology, ISPRA, 6Centro Interdipartimentale di Scienze Cognitive, Università di Pavia, Pavia, Italy 7CRA - IS.Pa.Ve., Chemical Section[/font] SOPO2012 8th International Symposium on Cavitation Singapore, 13th - 16th August 2012
Title: Re: Exploring Sonoluminescence : a discussion on "Simple" replication methods
Post by: Acca on October 25, 2017, 01:57:23 PM
Here is the link to Dr. Szpak interview ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxBJjWzlKl0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxBJjWzlKl0)


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 ColdFusionNow (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCH78efhknLR-cuL9w2hVcUQ)
Published on Apr 11, 2015[/font]
 
 Following Nature's Documents Stan Szpak and LENR Co-deposition HD is taken from interviews conducted January, 2015 with former Navy scientists and engineers Dr. Stanislaw Szpak, Dr. Frank Gordon, and Dr. Melvin Miles, who each researched the anomalous effects in deuterated systems. They collaborated on co-deposition experiments, among other things. Co-deposition was a reproducible method of initiating excess heat, tritium production, low intensity radiation, morphology changes on the surface from electric and magnetic fields, hot spots and mini-volcanoes, as well as transmutations, in a cold fusion environment. Co-deposition became the basis of Navy SPAWAR LENR research until their program ended in 2011. A transcript of this video is available here http://www.infinite-energy.com/images... (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.infinite-energy.com%2Fimages%2Fpdfs%2FFollowingNature%2527sDocuments.pdf&v=QxBJjWzlKl0&event=video_description&redir_token=lbm3sqdTtub5XXRxdJlKWfw4o_N8MTUwOTAxODc4MUAxNTA4OTMyMzgx) compliments Infinite Energy Magazine http://www.infinite-energy.com (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.infinite-energy.com&v=QxBJjWzlKl0&event=video_description&redir_token=lbm3sqdTtub5XXRxdJlKWfw4o_N8MTUwOTAxODc4MUAxNTA4OTMyMzgx). See more at http://coldfusionnow.org/following-na... (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=http%3A%2F%2Fcoldfusionnow.org%2Ffollowing-natures-documents-stan-szpak-lenr-co-deposition%2F&v=QxBJjWzlKl0&event=video_description&redir_token=lbm3sqdTtub5XXRxdJlKWfw4o_N8MTUwOTAxODc4MUAxNTA4OTMyMzgx) Following Nature's Documents was filmed and edited by Ruby Carat for http://coldfusionnow.org (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=http%3A%2F%2Fcoldfusionnow.org&v=QxBJjWzlKl0&event=video_description&redir_token=lbm3sqdTtub5XXRxdJlKWfw4o_N8MTUwOTAxODc4MUAxNTA4OTMyMzgx) and http://www.infinite-energy.com (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.infinite-energy.com&v=QxBJjWzlKl0&event=video_description&redir_token=lbm3sqdTtub5XXRxdJlKWfw4o_N8MTUwOTAxODc4MUAxNTA4OTMyMzgx). 
Title: Re: Exploring Sonoluminescence : a discussion on "Simple" replication methods
Post by: profitis on October 25, 2017, 04:10:44 PM
" Science is now a dead horse.. with
no real research anymore .."

Ya think?
Title: Re: Exploring Sonoluminescence : a discussion on "Simple" replication methods
Post by: ramset on October 26, 2017, 12:23:17 AM
ACCA
Quote

 
Here is the link to Dr. Szpak interview ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxBJjWzlKl0


[/font]
 ColdFusionNow
Published on Apr 11, 2015[/font]
 
 Following Nature's Documents Stan Szpak and LENR Co-deposition HD is taken from interviews conducted January, 2015 with former Navy scientists and engineers Dr. Stanislaw Szpak, Dr. Frank Gordon, and Dr. Melvin Miles, who each researched the anomalous effects in deuterated systems. They collaborated on co-deposition experiments, among other things. Co-deposition was a reproducible method of initiating excess heat, tritium production, low intensity radiation, morphology changes on the surface from electric and magnetic fields, hot spots and mini-volcanoes, as well as transmutations, in a cold fusion environment. Co-deposition became the basis of Navy SPAWAR LENR research until their program ended in 2011. A transcript of this video is available here http://www.infinite-energy.com/images... compliments Infinite Energy Magazine http://www.infinite-energy.com. See more at http://coldfusionnow.org/following-na... Following Nature's Documents was filmed and edited by Ruby Carat for http://coldfusionnow.org and http://www.infinite-energy.com. 

* Also
http://slideplayer.com/slide/6660823/
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IZ34Wwa-AE[/font

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Fabulous contributions IMO

Wesley
You need this [or similar

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Edmund-Scientific-Optical-Breadboard-Loaded-with-Optics-Mounts-and-Components/263229484672?hash=item3d49b32e80

Chet
Title: Re: Exploring Sonoluminescence : a discussion on "Simple" replication methods
Post by: AlienGrey on October 26, 2017, 04:21:20 PM
Hi all, Acca looks like the sort of block who doesn't mess around wasting his time ;)  what I have to say is what is it your rely after ?  lets get to the point as the grass behind the bush is thread bare ;)  ever watch any of the old Nazi flying bxmb's buzz boxb its flight trail is like this 0-----0-----0-----0------0  now watch how a MufoN alien copy device fly's then look at Peter Lynderman video on you tube about FE on his borderland speech from late 70s 80s watch till he tells all what he is telling you sounds like the truth to me. Not posted address as it will disappear but you can find it.

AG
Title: Re: Exploring Sonoluminescence : a discussion on "Simple" replication methods
Post by: Acca on October 27, 2017, 09:51:58 AM
l Just a response to: “matrix Dolts”
 
“Today dogmatic Science” has been: “USERP’d”.. by (con)census.. FEAR of OUTCAST from the flock keeps science, medicine, chemists and all technical people in physics on the narrow path of conformity..  Lies are everywhere …
 
Usurp was borrowed into English in the 14th century from the Anglo-French word usorper, which in turn derives from the Latin verb usurpare, meaning "to take possession of without a legal claim." Usurpare itself was formed by combining usu (a form of usus, meaning "use") and rapere ("to seize").
 
to take or make use of under a guise of authority but without actual arrogate, commandeer, convert, expropriate, pirate, preempt, press, seize, take over, appropriate Words Related to usurp annex, attach, claim, confiscate ...
 
here is dogmatic Wikipedia on LNER is:
 
“Cold fusion is a hypothesized type of nuclear reaction that would occur at, or near, room temperature. This is compared with the "hot" fusion which takes place naturally within stars, under immense pressure and at temperatures of millions of degrees, and distinguished from muon-catalyzed fusion. There is currently no accepted theoretical model that would allow cold fusion to occur.”
 
This is just plain Bull*hit and science is run by “Bull*hitters” who bestow this on the stupid public..  “I say let them sit in the lala land of  "*hit..”
 
Stupid humans make stupid choices that makes them suffer with out knowing they been sold Bull*hit on a grand scale..
 
The few who leave the “Farm” often are outcast and called heretics and nutters..
 
There is no debate here just that… READ and LEARN .. “Dolt humans”…
 
Dolt refers a person who isn't very smart.
 
http://www.infinite-energy.com/iemagazine/issue131/NagelIE131%20ICCFPart1.pdf (http://www.infinite-energy.com/iemagazine/issue131/NagelIE131%20ICCFPart1.pdf)
 
http://www.iscmns.org/work12/Abstracts.pdf (http://www.iscmns.org/work12/Abstracts.pdf)[/font]
 
 
 Acca…[/font]
Title: Re: Exploring Sonoluminescence : a discussion on "Simple" replication methods
Post by: Acca on October 27, 2017, 10:04:39 AM
http://www.infinite-energy.com/images/pdfs/SzpakMemorial.pdf (http://www.infinite-energy.com/images/pdfs/SzpakMemorial.pdf)


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Title: Re: Exploring Sonoluminescence : a discussion on "Simple" replication methods
Post by: ramset on November 02, 2017, 03:20:41 AM
a contribution from member microvolt at energetic forum

http://aflb.ensmp.fr/AFLB-342/aflb342m669.pdf

respectfully
Chet K