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Author Topic: Ukraine and Russia  (Read 10319 times)

Offline Johnsmith

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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #120 on: April 30, 2022, 03:10:06 PM »
  The way they include anti-Semites in everything can be troubling as well. Over 13 million non-Jews died
during World War II and they are ignored. And considering over 5 million Palestinians are in concentration camps,
is it okay to be anti-Palestinian?
 And that is something that might have encouraged Putin. Ukraine is his Palestine. And the U.S. government
does not support a 2 state solution. The Bill of Rights while being for American citizens states that the
government can not enforce laws that oppress people. The 1964 Civil Rights Acts does not allow for Americans
to engage in discriminatory practices.
 If the U.S. is a world leader as it claims, a 2 State Solution would be pursued. With what onepower showed,
the U.S. has its own problems. And the image of the land division between Israel and Palestine in 1948 shows
the intentions of the United Nations. Divide and conquer is a well known military strategy. Political leaders need
to resolve issues and not create more yet WW II was the result of issues that WW I did not resolve.
 And WW II did not resolve a 2 State solution. This is where when the U.S. was in Afghanistan for over 20 years,
how could Afghans trust the U.S.? What if Afghans felt like Palestinians?
 And this is what Putin plans for Ukraine. Why Putin wants to occupy all of the Ukrainian coast and have the
Donbas region. The Donbas is rich in minerals and manufacturing and would hurt Ukraine economically.
 With Israel, it started with U.N. Resolution 181 and identified Palestinians as the "Palestinian Problem". I think
the 3rd Reich used the same language to describe Jews. I have read U.N. Resolutions concerning Resolution 181.

 This link shows what in 1947 led to Resolution 181. This is a Jewish website and talks about replacing hate with good.
Nothing about what was promoted as a 2 State Solution has been pursued. Even today Jerusalem is not an international
city because it is the birthplace of major religions.
https://www.adl.org/resources/action-guides/united-nations-partition-plan-1947-un-resolution-181
« Last Edit: April 30, 2022, 06:32:02 PM by Johnsmith »

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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #121 on: May 02, 2022, 03:18:24 PM »
  With this from Russia https://www.yahoo.com/news/israel-lashes-russia-over-lavrovs-082530896.html
This is where Russia would need to do what many politicians have said and say that their comments were taken
out of context because of what my previous post said.
 Israel states that a 2 state solution and Jerusalem becoming an international city would replace hate with good.
Is Israel willing to support what they promoted in 1947?

 And this is where if my work on Bessler's Wheel is successful then Putin might become aware of this thread.
My father lived in Nazi occupied Norway and as a disabled Veteran I am hoping to move to Spain to have
necessary surgery. Also I had a Jewish neighbor pull a Krystallnacht on me. https://www.ushmm.org/collections/bibliography/kristallnacht
 I was reading this book which inspired her. https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/13167774-a-city-of-broken-glass
Putin could make the lack of a 2 state solution and Jerusalem not having been made an international city which is what
was promoted at one time an issue as he has said previously that he supports a 2 state solution.
 Then as Israel says on its website, hate can be replaced by good.

Offline onepower

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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #122 on: May 05, 2022, 04:49:03 PM »
One has to wonder if many on the the far right are liars?.

In the news, the new republican Supreme Court judges decided to vote on overturning Roe vs Wade. After they swore under oath they would not overturn any long standing precidents. It's not the laws that bug me it's the continuous lying. They swore they wouldn't do something to get there job then given the chance it's the first thing they did...there liars and have zero credibility in my opinion.

Russia and Putin seem no different and basically anything they say is a lie. They say they will do X then do Y.  They say they didn't kill all those women and children when video and witnesses prove they did. One has to wonder if there so far gone they don't even realize how stupid they look in the eyes of the world.

When bold faced lying becomes normal were all in trouble...

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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #123 on: May 05, 2022, 06:18:08 PM »
Count A. Tolstoy said: “There are two Russias. The first (Kyiv Rus) has its roots in the world, and at least in European culture. The ideas of goodness, honor, freedom, justice were understood by this Rus in the same way as the whole Western world understood it.
And there is also a second Rus - Moscow (Russias). This is Rus Taigi, Mongolian, wild, bestial. This Rus has made bloody despotism and wild bitterness its national ideal. This Moscow Rus, from ancient times, was, is, and will be a complete denial of everything European and a fierce enemy of Europe.”

When translated into English, Russia (Россия) and Rus (Русь) have completely different meanings. Russia is a fictional state created by the liar Peter the Great. What is the difference between Ukraine and Russia in the video tells the seer. who claims to communicate with higher powers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SomYwfJHPU&t=819s

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Offline NickZ

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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #124 on: May 06, 2022, 01:57:23 AM »
   Rakarskie:   Thank you for the explanation. I try to understand what is going on with Putin's Russia.
My father was from the old Yugoslavia. There they also had this same madness, more than one time. It seams to me that it is not the fault of the people there, or in Russia, but what is oppressing them, from higher dimensions.
 
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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #125 on: May 06, 2022, 09:15:43 AM »
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Count A. Tolstoy said: “There are two Russias. The first (Kyiv Rus) has its roots in the world, and at least in European culture. The ideas of goodness, honor, freedom, justice were understood by this Rus in the same way as the whole Western world understood it.
And there is also a second Rus - Moscow (Russias). This is Rus Taigi, Mongolian, wild, bestial. This Rus has made bloody despotism and wild bitterness its national ideal. This Moscow Rus, from ancient times, was, is, and will be a complete denial of everything European and a fierce enemy of Europe.”

It's interesting looking at all the different perspectives. Many of the adults here in Canada spoke of disbelief wondering how this bs is even possible in this day and age. They had the impression the majority could act like responsible adults and we were moving in the right direction. Now there is a great deal of uncertainty and many are wondering where this is headed.

The perspective I found most disturbing is the one nobody is talking about. I had a chance to sit down and have an open and honest conversation with some teenagers. It's strange because many older people like to call them lazy or misguided but that's not what's happening. Like us when we were there age they see exactly what's going on. They see adults acting like god damn children, consumed by greed, destroying the planet and there future. They honestly believe there screwed and there's really no point in planning ahead, why bother?.

Obviously this isn't something any parent wants to hear. Apparently they don't want to talk about this stuff  because they think we will get upset. I mean, how do you say "daddy why are you acting like a retard and destroying my future?". I will tell you what, it was a real eye opener and it definitely changed my perspective. What were doing is complete bs and your children know it... let that sink in.

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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #126 on: May 06, 2022, 10:56:11 AM »
I think the biggest single problem is the lack of reliable information available to Russians. Social media is patchy at best and suppressed at worst. If there were to be a way of creating a radio station which was intelligently run and couldn't be jammed, this might be a breakthrough.

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« Reply #127 on: May 06, 2022, 03:33:34 PM »
  The Russians are being brainwashed, and so is everyone else. The difference is not everyone believes the hype. I don't, at least.
   The point is to control, total control, and if you oppose what is happening, you get arrested, and in many countries, even worse.   It seams like some one wants us all dead. WHY??? Who?  Doesn't Russia have enough land and resources already? Is the billion dollars a day profit from oil, not enough. Over 20.000 people dead from Russian, alone, and thousands more in Ukraine.
   I think that our teenagers are also being brainwashed, just like the rest of us. They'll grow up to be just like us. Or be jailed or killed off, if the don't conform. Even my own daughters believe what they hear in the news, over what I believe or tell them.Same thing is happening world wide.  But, we were not born that way. WE have been made to be that way, or else... There is no liberty, and there never was.
 Just try to tell your kids that they don't have to go to school and don't have to study, and don't have do any homework, if they don't want to. Sure. Tell them that they don't have to wear a mast, etz...And tell them how new viruses are created to kill us all off. Oh, they already know that. Sweet planet that we live in. No wonder the ETs don't come down to lend us a helping hand. As we'd kill them off, as well, IF we could...and take their technologies, to build bigger bombs with it.
   
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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #128 on: May 06, 2022, 07:29:29 PM »
Russian losses  since  Feb 24 2022 till today
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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #129 on: May 08, 2022, 11:09:36 PM »
Count A. Tolstoy said: “There are two Russias. The first (Kyiv Rus) has its roots in the world, and at least in European culture. The ideas of goodness, honor, freedom, justice were understood by this Rus in the same way as the whole Western world understood it.
And there is also a second Rus - Moscow (Russias). This is Rus Taigi, Mongolian, wild, bestial. This Rus has made bloody despotism and wild bitterness its national ideal. This Moscow Rus, from ancient times, was, is, and will be a complete denial of everything European and a fierce enemy of Europe.”

When translated into English, Russia (Россия) and Rus (Русь) have completely different meanings. Russia is a fictional state created by the liar Peter the Great. What is the difference between Ukraine and Russia in the video tells the seer. who claims to communicate with higher powers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SomYwfJHPU&t=819s

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 In Russian, there is крайний = extreme
Then there is          Украина = Ukraine
                              y = and
so y крайний = and the extreme or its variation is Ukraine.
 Kiev was probably Київ, Рус и Я meaning Kiev, the Viking(s) and I (myself).
Why today there is Москва, Россия. The climate might have played a role in this. An example is that all of the cathedrals
built in Europe were built during the Medieval Warm Period. During both the Dark Ages Cool Period and the Little Ice Age,
the economy of Europe slowed.
 And yet today I think that Russia can adapt to its environment. In a previous post I mentioned in ground parks with geothermal heating.
In places like Yekaterinburg, summer could be enjoyed in the winter. Such innovation could also help to improve Russian manufacturing.
 Со мной, Я хочу быть Американець but I am 1/2 Norwegian even if I am from Ohio, USA and am a disabled Veteran of the US Navy.
 And with Yekaterinburg, Russia, it was founded by a Russian and a Frenchman. It became a metallurgical center because people wanted
away from the Tsar's heavy taxes and Russia did not extend east of the Ural Mountains. I actually read that on a placard when I visited
Yekaterinburg. Kind of why I can think about in ground parks and what innovations might help Russians.
 

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« Reply #130 on: May 09, 2022, 12:25:30 AM »
There are some stupid people in Russia. This chap says Russia could destroy NATO in 30 minutes:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10794433/Russia-destroy-NATO-countries-half-hour-claims-close-Putin-crony-charge-rockets.html?fr=operanews
This is true but the phenomenon called M.A.D., which has governed the Cold War for 65 years, means that Russia would be destroyed in around the same amount of time.

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« Reply #131 on: May 12, 2022, 03:11:32 AM »
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There are some stupid people in Russia. This chap says Russia could destroy NATO in 30 minutes:

I think there is much more to it...

Look at the far right movement, all the bs conspiracy theories, the blatant lies, gaslighting and now the stacked U.S. supreme court making themselves look like complete fools. I don't think there stupid, they have been brain washed. Anything goes no matter how batshit crazy to further there beliefs. This is the western worlds equivalent to Jihad.

This is what many don't seem to understand in my opinion. Many think the far right in the U.S., Russia and the Middle East are scared and should show some empathy and common sense but in there mind this is a religious crusade. There lining up in droves to throw themselves under the bus to further there cause and become a martyr to there beliefs.

We cannot reason with someone who has been duped into thinking they have nothing to lose, it doesn't work.

Look at the signs occurring globally...
The proverbial "witch hunt", dark ages laws and regulations, mass book burning and purges, mass disinformation, global restrictions on education and access to information. What do you think is happening?...

We have read about all this bullshit before haven't we?. All our past civilizations grew to untold heights of culture, science and advanced technology only to be obliterated by the barbarian hordes. We were supposed to evolve into an advanced civilization countless times in the past and each time a relatively small group of extremists burned everything to the ground.

As everyone here keeps saying...
They say, I cannot believe this bullshit is even happening in this day and age, it's embarrassing, it's incompetent, it's fubar.
Indeed it should not happen in this day and age and it's on us to call others out and invoke change. Make no mistake this is a war between the past and our future.

So as many here are starting to understand the time to act is now...

Regards
AC

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« Reply #132 on: May 12, 2022, 01:40:24 PM »
A lot of sense there, AC. I think their problem is that they are deeply insecure and frightened - with no good reason but they are too messed up either to see this or to be convincable of it. They've lost their powers of reasoning and logic. I reckon what Russia needs is a radio station that can't be jammed.