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Offline hartiberlin

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Re: Newman machine replica
« Reply #195 on: July 20, 2008, 04:13:39 PM »
OK, now I understand. There is a back emf that reverses the polarity. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_rvJQb2SDY
But now I don't understand is how a back emf can be while the circuit is open.




Well it is just enough to open the circuit.
Then a spark will jump from the just opened contacts
and this spark is just putting an radio frequency back current spike into the battery.

So you don?t need to reverse the current in the commutator, if you just build a simple
switch -type ommutator.

The spark is doing it all alone.

Surely if you want to have more mechanical output power,
if is helpful, if you reverse the current  inside the coil after 180 degrees
rotation of the magnet.

But if you only energize the coil for around 45 degrees, once per rotation,
when the magnet is aligned inside the coil,
also a single switch type commutator is okay.
It should be best made of copper and graphite
as this gives the graphite oxidation free electron effect into the circuit.

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Re: Newman machine replica
« Reply #195 on: July 20, 2008, 04:13:39 PM »

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Re: Newman machine replica
« Reply #196 on: July 23, 2008, 05:30:35 PM »
Hi all,

What is the best way for build 2hp newman motor ?

The magnet wire size and how long ?

The best magnet ?




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Re: Newman machine replica
« Reply #197 on: July 28, 2008, 07:09:30 PM »
What happened to this topic? Why no-one post results? All go avay? How about your motor Cleranzer? This was topic I did follow long time, now no-one post here. Why?

All of mine killed the battery after a few days, but this was probably down to the commutator not being the correct material.
I still have it out in the shed somewhere and will probably mess around with it again oneday.

So many thing to play with and not enough time as usual!

Cheers

Sean.

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Re: Newman machine replica
« Reply #197 on: July 28, 2008, 07:09:30 PM »
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Re: Newman machine replica
« Reply #198 on: July 29, 2008, 09:08:05 AM »
All of mine killed the battery after a few days, but this was probably down to the commutator not being the correct material.
I still have it out in the shed somewhere and will probably mess around with it again oneday.

So many thing to play with and not enough time as usual!

Cheers

Sean.


Yes, I see you have many projects  ;)

On what project are you working right now?

I think you should realy try again your Newman motor recharge your batteries, but use like Stefan say cooper commutator and graphite brushes.

Good luck whit your projects.

Reg. Michael (Careica)

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Re: Newman machine replica
« Reply #199 on: July 30, 2008, 07:58:49 PM »
Okay dragged out one of the coils and manged to get some brushes out of a old 240V motor to try.

Much better sparks now :) .

Here is a video to show.

http://www.overunity.org.uk/newman/CLaNZeRSNewmanReplication7.wmv

I messed around for ages with tape on the axle trying to get the timing right then had a brain wave about bending the axle a little so as it rotates it touches the brush and fires.

Interesting thing was the Battery was 12.08 Volts when I started and I have left it running for the last 15 minutes and the battery reads 12:09 volts. I have seen this before but it has ended going down more than up, so will leave it running and check again later.

I also have some flat AA batteries here and will tape them together later and see if they charge or degrade even more.

Cheers

Sean.

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Re: Newman machine replica
« Reply #199 on: July 30, 2008, 07:58:49 PM »
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Re: Newman machine replica
« Reply #200 on: July 30, 2008, 08:00:31 PM »
I think you should realy try again your Newman motor recharge your batteries, but use like Stefan say cooper commutator and graphite brushes.

Good luck whit your projects.

Reg. Michael (Careica)

Hi Michael

I do not have copper rods, only brass. But see the post above now trying some graphite brushes.

Cheers

Sean.

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Re: Newman machine replica
« Reply #201 on: July 31, 2008, 06:45:59 PM »
Okay dragged out one of the coils and manged to get some brushes out of a old 240V motor to try.

Much better sparks now :) .

Here is a video to show.

http://www.overunity.org.uk/newman/CLaNZeRSNewmanReplication7.wmv

I messed around for ages with tape on the axle trying to get the timing right then had a brain wave about bending the axle a little so as it rotates it touches the brush and fires.

Interesting thing was the Battery was 12.08 Volts when I started and I have left it running for the last 15 minutes and the battery reads 12:09 volts. I have seen this before but it has ended going down more than up, so will leave it running and check again later.

I also have some flat AA batteries here and will tape them together later and see if they charge or degrade even more.

Cheers

Sean.


Yeah! Good news! Back in business!

AA-batteries will maybe don't work. They can't catch all of those hight volts and hight negative back-spices. But it could be worth of try.

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Re: Newman machine replica
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Re: Newman machine replica
« Reply #202 on: July 31, 2008, 11:10:48 PM »
Hi Sean,
well done,
but your coil is much too small.

How many Kg wire do you have ?

You need at least 10 times as much
and thus several times bigger wire diameter to have
about the same ohmical resistance as you now have.

That will give you also 10 times higher BackEMF
and thus more back current spikes.

Or just test  something I still also want to do soon.

Take e.g. 5 high voltage caps with  100 nF and make
another coil with maybe 1000 windings
and make taps after 200 windings each and
put one cap there.
So finally you will have a multiple LC coil
with 5 x 200 windings in series and  1 cap bridges each
200 windings.
So basically you have 5 x LC circuits inin series
from each tank having a L with 200 windings and  cap with 100 nF.

Then use this as the Newman coil.

This enhanced capacitance of this new coil
will give you much more energy storage and
the back spikes will be much bigger again
and much more power will come out and
this will be a way to reduce the amount of copper
wire needed for a Newman motor.

It really depends on the parasitric capacitance of the
Newman coil, how much back spike energy you will be able to draw
out of it too.

Hope this helps.


Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Newman machine replica
« Reply #203 on: August 01, 2008, 08:01:12 AM »
Hi Sean,
well done,
but your coil is much too small.

How many Kg wire do you have ?

You need at least 10 times as much
and thus several times bigger wire diameter to have
about the same ohmical resistance as you now have.

That will give you also 10 times higher BackEMF
and thus more back current spikes.

Or just test  something I still also want to do soon.

Take e.g. 5 high voltage caps with  100 nF and make
another coil with maybe 1000 windings
and make taps after 200 windings each and
put one cap there.
So finally you will have a multiple LC coil
with 5 x 200 windings in series and  1 cap bridges each
200 windings.
So basically you have 5 x LC circuits inin series
from each tank having a L with 200 windings and  cap with 100 nF.

Then use this as the Newman coil.

This enhanced capacitance of this new coil
will give you much more energy storage and
the back spikes will be much bigger again
and much more power will come out and
this will be a way to reduce the amount of copper
wire needed for a Newman motor.

It really depends on the parasitric capacitance of the
Newman coil, how much back spike energy you will be able to draw
out of it too.

Hope this helps.


Regards, Stefan.

What? Should there be much of THICK wire? Not TINY wire? Damn it! I did buy 0,2mm wire, and it is tiny! Now I will be not able to capture back-spices=no OU?

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Re: Newman machine replica
« Reply #203 on: August 01, 2008, 08:01:12 AM »
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Re: Newman machine replica
« Reply #204 on: August 01, 2008, 09:18:28 AM »
Hi Sean,
well done,
but your coil is much too small.

How many Kg wire do you have ?

You need at least 10 times as much
and thus several times bigger wire diameter to have
about the same ohmical resistance as you now have.

Hi Stefan

The wire is 0.25
The Coil I used here was the 39ohms one.

I still have the 200 ohm one that I have not tried with the brushes yet. This one is 2000 winds of 0.25 wire around a 80mm tube and is exactly 200 ohms.

I like the idea of winding the caps in series but that is gonna take some time :)

Cheers

Sean.

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Re: Newman machine replica
« Reply #205 on: April 06, 2015, 12:21:43 AM »
Hi all,

I'm still working shimming the neo's closer to the coil.
It's amazing on how much better it works as a generator the closer they are.
I'm on vacation till sunday. Still have 10 or more hours of work setting up the commutator. It will fire 10 to 60X per rotation. THAT'S THE KEY TO MAKE IT WORK.
I was running the newman moter in the SG Bedini mode. Strange pattern on the tv. White band of dots close together inch and 1/2 wide going from top too bottom of screen in duel transister driving. Single transister, purple wavey band inch wide.

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Re: Newman machine replica
« Reply #205 on: April 06, 2015, 12:21:43 AM »
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Re: Newman machine replica
« Reply #206 on: December 30, 2017, 10:03:14 PM »
RWG replica of Newman's Patent Office demonstration unit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNhH6wBOFbA


Take note of the odd running behavior--no obvious acceleration.

 

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