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Author Topic: Overunity Device by Tanju Argun (Moderated)  (Read 43718 times)

Tanju

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Re: Overunity Device by Tanju Argun (Moderated)
« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2017, 05:50:47 PM »
Hello Tanju,
could you post the program code for arduino ?

Thanx

//////////// Designed by Tanju Argun-- Date March 2017--


int outPin8 = 8;
int outPin9 = 9;
int outPin10 = 10;
int analogInput0 = A0;//POT
int analogInput4 = A4;//BAT
int analogInput5 = A5;//CH




int i=0;
float vin0 = 0.0; 
float vin4 = 0.0;
float vin5 = 0.0;
float vout0 = 0.0;
float vout4 = 0.0;
float vout5 = 0.0;
float delayms = 0.0;


float R1 = 4700.0; //
float R2 = 1000.0; //
float value0 = 0.0;
float value4 = 0.0;
float value5 = 0.0;


void setup() {



  Serial.begin(9600);
 
 




}

void loop() {
 

      int i=1;       
      for (i = 0; i <50 ; i=i+1) {
 
   
    digitalWrite(9,HIGH);  // Connects Capacitor to Battery         
    delayMicroseconds((100));     
    digitalWrite(9,LOW); 
    delayMicroseconds((100));
    digitalWrite(8,HIGH);// Connect capacitor to load
    delayMicroseconds((1000));
    digitalWrite(8,LOW);   

   

    // delay((1));
      }
       Read0();
      Read4();
       Read5();
  Serial.print("POT= ");
  Serial.println(vin0, 2);
  Serial.print("BAT= ");
  Serial.println(vin4, 2);
  Serial.print("CHG= ");
  Serial.println(vin5, 2);
delayms=vin0*155;
Serial.print("delayms= ");
  Serial.println(delayms, 5);
  value0=0;
 value4=0;
  value5=0;
   if ((vin5 > vin4) &&  (vin4 <= 27.0 ))
  {
 
    if (  (vin4 <= 25.0 ))
  {
  delayms=1000*delayms;
  }
   digitalWrite(10,HIGH);//Connects charger to battery
   delay(delayms);
   digitalWrite(10,LOW);
   delay((1));   
 
 
}


Tanju

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Re: Overunity Device by Tanju Argun (Moderated)
« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2017, 05:56:40 PM »
Are the LED's continuously powered by the 80 vdc 66000uf capacitor or are the LED's momentarily powered on by a mosfet switch?

When you have a schematic update I can update it to the first post so all can easily find it.

Thanks

Luc

The capacitor continiously powers the LEDs but The Mosfet switch connects the 100000 micro massles capacitor to this smoothing capacitor every milli second. I do not see any voltage drop on the smoothing cap.
Actually the mosfet switch is connecting the Massless capacitor to Bedini input every milisecond. So the smoothing capacitor is continiously connected to the collector diodes.

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Re: Overunity Device by Tanju Argun (Moderated)
« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2017, 06:09:36 PM »
The capacitor continiously powers the LEDs but The Mosfet switch connects the 100000 micro massles capacitor to this smoothing capacitor every milli second. I do not see any voltage drop on the smoothing cap.

Thanks for the reply and confirmation. But I don't understand why your LED's are behaving differently (no heat) since they are connected to a continuous DC source!
Are the LED's connected in Series as you mentioned they are 28vdc?

Something is not right

Luc
« Last Edit: June 25, 2017, 04:44:26 PM by gotoluc »

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Re: Overunity Device by Tanju Argun (Moderated)
« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2017, 06:12:36 PM »
This part of your code: maybe there is something wrong.
      Read0();
      Read4();
       Read5();

Read0(), Read4()  and Read5()   are not defined, so I think you mean that way:

    vin0=analogRead(analogInput0);  //reading input pins
    vin4=analogRead(analogInput4);
    vin5=analogRead(analogInput5); 


popolibero

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Re: Overunity Device by Tanju Argun (Moderated)
« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2017, 06:23:28 PM »
Hi Tanju,


please correct me if I'm wrong. The battery is pulsed to the C2 cap.  C2 is the supply (pulsed)of the Bedini SG type motor. The output of the SG, which you configured in boost converter mode (as opposed to standard SG), goes to the output cap feeding the leds.


What I don't understand is how C2 is supposed to power the SG the way you connected it? According to your schematic the pos. of C2 is pulsed to the pos. of the output cap, while the neg. of C2 goes to the pos. input of the SG..


thanks,
Mario

Tanju

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Re: Overunity Device by Tanju Argun (Moderated)
« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2017, 07:09:34 PM »
Hi Tanju,


please correct me if I'm wrong. The battery is pulsed to the C2 cap.  C2 is the supply (pulsed)of the Bedini SG type motor. The output of the SG, which you configured in boost converter mode (as opposed to standard SG), goes to the output cap feeding the leds.


What I don't understand is how C2 is supposed to power the SG the way you connected it? According to your schematic the pos. of C2 is pulsed to the pos. of the output cap, while the neg. of C2 goes to the pos. input of the SG..


thanks,
Mario
You are right That drawing was old version and there are some mistakes . I am working on the latest version.

Tanju

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Re: Overunity Device by Tanju Argun (Moderated)
« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2017, 07:12:07 PM »
This part of your code: maybe there is something wrong.
Read0(), Read4()  and Read5()   are not defined, so I think you mean that way:

    vin0=analogRead(analogInput0);  //reading input pins
    vin4=analogRead(analogInput4);
    vin5=analogRead(analogInput5);
I have not included the Read subroutines because they are just for measuring the battery and charge voltages  has nothing to do with the gist of the matter,

Tanju

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Re: Overunity Device by Tanju Argun (Moderated)
« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2017, 07:17:49 PM »
Thanks for the reply and confirmation. But I don't understand why your LED's are behaving differently (no heat) since they are connected to a continuous DC source!
Are the LED's connected in Series as you mentioned they are 28vdc?

Something is not right

Luc
3 LEDS in series across 80 volts and there are 7 parallel branches So I must see 7 times .7 Amps = 4.9 AMPS, but I only see 0.3 Amps . But many people are referring to cold electricty as "Unmeasureable"
May that be the reason???
« Last Edit: June 25, 2017, 04:47:05 PM by gotoluc »

Tanju

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Re: Overunity Device by Tanju Argun (Moderated)
« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2017, 07:22:00 PM »
Hi Tanju,


please correct me if I'm wrong. The battery is pulsed to the C2 cap.  C2 is the supply (pulsed)of the Bedini SG type motor. The output of the SG, which you configured in boost converter mode (as opposed to standard SG), goes to the output cap feeding the leds.


What I don't understand is how C2 is supposed to power the SG the way you connected it? According to your schematic the pos. of C2 is pulsed to the pos. of the output cap, while the neg. of C2 goes to the pos. input of the SG..


thanks,
Mario

Such mistakes occur when you build a circuit and later to draw a schemati for it:)))

gotoluc

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Re: Overunity Device by Tanju Argun (Moderated)
« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2017, 08:06:37 PM »
3 LEDS in series across 80 volts and there are 7 parallel branches So I must see 7 times .7 Amps = 4.9 AMPS, but I only see 0.3 Amps . But many people are referring to cold electricty as "Unmeasureable"
May that be the reason???

Thanks for confirming your LED array connection.
I've been building and experimenting with this stuff for the past 10 years. I've built Bedini, Joule Thief and mostly my own ideas with electromagnets and permanent magnets in hopes to achieve OU.
To date nothing has proven OU or any new kind of electricity. However, even though I haven't found anything better then what the established science has put forward I'm still open to finding something I may of overlooked and why I invited you here so we can hopefully all learn something new if that may end up being the case.
I say it that way because to date there has been no OU claim that hasn't ended up being an error of some kind and hope this is not the case with your device and why we need to question your circuit and measurement methods.
I hope you understand this is nothing against you but what we need to understanding what it is that is different in your device compared to all the other devices we have seen come and go over the years.

I would strongly suggest you find a resistive load instead of the LED's to try to get to the bottom of this output measurement problem as I don't believe cold electricity would cause this. Maybe a curling Iron, toaster, electric kettle would work as a resistor of correct value to stay within your voltage range. Please try and report your findings.

We appreciate your help and sharing

Luc

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Re: Overunity Device by Tanju Argun (Moderated)
« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2017, 08:12:18 PM »
Thanks for the reply and confirmation. But I don't understand why your LED's are behaving differently (no heat) since they are connected to a continuous DC source!
Are the LED's connected in Series as you mentioned they are 28vdc?

Something is not right

Luc

I made the following experiment:
Took one PowerLED put it at the end of a 10 cm  4 by 4 tube. at the opposite end I placed an LDR . Connected 27 volts to LED measured the resistance of LDR. Then I put the gadget across one LED in my system I read a very close resistance. Same luminous intensity but much less current ??? ??? ?
« Last Edit: June 25, 2017, 04:46:13 PM by gotoluc »

Tanju

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Re: Overunity Device by Tanju Argun (Moderated)
« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2017, 08:24:43 PM »
Thanks for confirming your LED array connection.
I've been building and experimenting with this stuff for the past 10 years. I've built Bedini, Joule Thief and mostly my own ideas with electromagnets and permanent magnets in hopes to achieve OU.
To date nothing has proven OU or any new kind of electricity. However, even though I haven't found anything better then what the established science has put forward I'm still open to finding something I may of overlooked and why I invited you here so we can hopefully all learn something new if that may end up being the case.
I say it that way because to date there has been no OU claim that hasn't ended up being an error of some kind and hope this is not the case with your device and why we need to question your circuit and measurement methods.
I hope you understand this is nothing against you but what we need to understanding what it is that is different in your device compared to all the other devices we have seen come and go over the years.

I would strongly suggest you find a resistive load instead of the LED's to try to get to the bottom of this output measurement problem as I don't believe cold electricity would cause this. Maybe a curling Iron, toaster, electric kettle would work as a resistor of correct value to stay within your voltage range. Please try and report your findings.

We appreciate your help and sharing

Luc

Thanks for your kind words.
Overunity or not ! My garden is like a football stadium at night. thanks to 75 watts input and 21 PowerLEDS. And do not forget I have a mechanical power output of around 600 watts which I can potentially use. However I will still make the pure resistive load trial.
Tanju

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Re: Overunity Device by Tanju Argun (Moderated)
« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2017, 09:43:43 PM »
I made the following experiment:
Took one PowerLED put it at the end of a 10 cm  4 by 4 tube. at the opposite end I placed an LDR . Connected 27 volts to LED measured the resistance of LDR. Then I put the gadget across one LED in my system I read a very close resistance. Same luminous intensity but much less current ??? ??? ?

I looked up LDR for those who may not know and Found it's a Photo Resistor, a kind of photocell that changes resistance the more light it captures.
So Tanju's test is a kind of confirmation that each of his 21 Power LED light Intensity are giving the same results as if he powers a single LED with a 27vdc power source, which btw produces heat but no heat in his 21 LED Array!!!
I don't understand how that can be but I'm very open to finding out more.
Lets see what happens to the output with a load resistor.

Regards

Luc

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Re: Overunity Device by Tanju Argun (Moderated)
« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2017, 09:56:49 PM »
I looked up LDR for those who may not know and Found it's a Photo Resistor, a kind of photocell that changes resistance the more light it captures.
So Tanju's test is a kind of confirmation that each of his 21 Power LED light Intensity are giving the same results as if he powers a single LED with a 27vdc power source, which btw produces heat but no heat in his 21 LED Array!!!
I don't understand how that can be but I'm very open to finding out more.
Lets see what happens to the output with a load resistor.

Regards

Luc

We call it "LDR" = (L)ight  (D)ependant  (R)esistor

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Re: Overunity Device by Tanju Argun (Moderated)
« Reply #29 on: June 24, 2017, 10:09:46 PM »
Dear SeaMonkey

I'm deleting your post since it is from another forum and not even posted by you.

Luc

Not a problem.  Tinsel Koala is attempting to contact you at OUR since he is unable to login here.  Check the ShoutBox at OUR.

That Sea Monkey must be one of the "Conservatives". He thinks ı dont have a scope. I dont know how to measure current with an MSc in Electronics, thinks my leds are pulsed..
He is right on one thing I dont have a proper lıght meter because ı never needed it till now!