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Offline Steven Dufresne

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Testatika small machine testbed
« on: April 22, 2005, 02:51:24 AM »
Hi All,
Everyone here probably knows already but I'm working on replicating the testatika, currently
working on one of the two small machines.  I've recently completed some changes and
done some testing.  Building it a few pieces at a time and testing whenit seems to make
sense helps direct the building and may answersome questions about what different parts
are for (that's thetheory anyway :-)).  It's all under:
  http://rimstar.org/sdenergy/testa/smallmach1.htm
The collection of all I've done so far re testatika is at:
  http://rimstar.org/sdenergy/testa
Enjoy,
Steve

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Re: Testatika small machine testbed
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2007, 10:54:58 PM »
Hi Steve,

Is that your own website?   ( rimstar )

Greetings

Peter from Holland ( Implosion )


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Re: Testatika small machine testbed
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2007, 12:07:29 AM »
Hi Steve,

Is that your own website?   ( rimstar )

Greetings

Peter from Holland ( Implosion )


@Peter
I have no sucsess to see the site.
No connection   do you know what to do?

helmut

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Offline Steven Dufresne

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Re: Testatika small machine testbed
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2007, 04:06:45 PM »
Hi Steve,
Is that your own website?   ( rimstar )
Greetings
Peter from Holland ( Implosion )
@Peter
I have no sucsess to see the site.
No connection   do you know what to do?
helmut

Hi Peter,
Yes,
 http://rimstar.org/sdenergy/testa
is my site.

Hi Helmut,
Try the above full address.
-Steve
PS. Sorry for the delay, I don't check in here often enough these days.

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Re: Testatika small machine testbed
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2007, 10:27:03 PM »
 Hello all and to Steve @ringstar , I have been looking over the site and giveing it a good study. I'll start building soon. would like to get only builders here so we can work and not have arm chair BS. I see someone has started to build on another thread and the work looks first class. I have accesss to plexi and a shop to fabricate , I use Emachineshop.com to get my parts made , they make anything as for the grids this may be the best source seeing that they can lazer cut them to spec. Did you study the back engineering the P Potter has done? and is there anyone else working on this besides this site. If we need to work in a private fourm for now I have one that is not open to the public , it is just for builders so we don't get misinformation or worse yet interfierence. Please let me know and we'll put together a miterials list for the build. mike 

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Re: Testatika small machine testbed
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2007, 01:52:29 AM »
@Steve , thank you for the nice note. been back over to the site and looking over your work on the disks. I have the stock to make the 2 disks in clear and black. I have a few bearings for the center also. will start the the mounts monday. Mike

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Re: Testatika small machine testbed
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2007, 03:53:33 AM »
Hi Mike,
The problem I have with building a full blown testatika is figuring out what to build since I don't know how it works. So instead I focus on experimenting with what parts might be tapping into an energy source. That's why I focus on the pots (Paul Baumann's term for the big cans) or different types of disks or the magnets as it could be any one or all of these. Currently I'm experimenting with adding an ultra high frequency to horseshoe magnets as that seems to be the goal of the Linden experiment:
 http://rimstar.org/sdenergy/testa/lindenexp.htm
 http://rimstar.org/sdenergy/testa/lindentests1.htm

I have seen Paul Potter's ideas but I have doubts that his electron cascade idea can be the energy source as that would mean the large amount of energy that the 3kW machine is producing is coming from redirected energetic free electrons in the air. I could be wrong since it's just my gut feeling, but I don't think there's that much constantly available.

Regarding Peter's other thread here, Peter and I have talked quite a bit elsewhere. Though I don't think his use of triboelectric effect is applicable since that involves physical contact between the disks I do like the use of triboelectric material as that gives you one disk that is initially charged. This would act as an initial HV source. Directly as a result of Peter suggesting this I did a quick experiment with this in mind and it turned out quite well:
 http://rimstar.org/sdenergy/testa/276disksg2vinyl1.htm

You say you're ready to start on the disks. Can I ask what your plan is?
-Steve
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« Last Edit: April 01, 2008, 05:39:15 PM by Steven Dufresne »

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Re: Testatika small machine testbed
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2007, 04:39:53 AM »
Steve,
some time ago I was asking you @rimstar about your opinion to introduce the electrophorus principle as a main principle also in history.
My demonstrator is tested and there are some good results whiche gives me further insights to the electrophorus.
The electrophorus in an rotational state (es sectors) or in a slightly vibratory state (up and down without touching the dipole surface) will generate a AC current. also when loaded with low ohmic resistors as a nulb in plasmastate.
There is no need for a spark at all.
Connect a small bulb out of a voltage checker (Ne?) continiously between the upper surface of the mover and the metal foil which lies under the rubbed record and make only slight movements in each direction?s-> No sparks but nearly continuous current through the bulb.
The charge is conserved!
No connection to earth required!
Move it as long as you want, every time you are changing the capacity you are directing the current, without collecting it in masses, through the neon bulb which reacts promptly with a glow discharge.
Amazing experiment, worse to do, no starting charges or phases needed, ever constant in function.
In the next step we'll have a look at the forces which acts to the moving parts.
A fullsymmetric or a assymmetric device is possible.
I come back to hyde patent and have a look at the stator disks which should be preloaded.
You can compare this forceless (force canceling due to constructive features) generator with an pos/neg electrophorus.
You are able to make 2 disks out of different materials to get a plus and a minus influencer.
Let them work together instead of against.
Hyde proposed 10% of the output is used to drive a ac (induction motor?) or small dc motor which is coupled to the rotor(s).
No significant losses due to backdrag or airresistence (use vacuum for maximal performance).
No rotating brushes or coals only wires.
Have also a look again on the simplified decouple cuircuit (AC) and the step down DC-Version.
Verry interesting insights may occour when combining the elektrophorus principle with the hyde machine.

I attach the patent for the simplicity of the situation.

Best wishes
Karl

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Re: Testatika small machine testbed
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2007, 06:04:37 AM »
Hi Steven,
have you tested to pulse with High Voltage some lightly radiocative quartz crystals ?

I guess they just pulse HV bursts onto these quartz crystals to release exited beta decay
and this is collected in the leyden jars.
All machines have some crystals in them.
In the small machines the crystals are  at the front, where the coils are wound around them and the mesh
metals are in front of it and in the big 3KW machine they had mountain crystal stones
in the leyden jars at the backside of the machines.
I was told this by Stefan Marinov, whom I was in contact with andwho visited also Methernitha
and had a look into all the machines.

Also when I was there at Methernitha in Linden in 1989 I was told that the secret is
in the crystals,which I did not understand at this time, but today it is pretty clear,
how they do it...

As some other researchers have shown, that you can excite beta decay by RF high voltage bursts,
just try this and see, how much energy you can gain from exciting a beta decay crystal with RF high voltage bursts.

Put it in a lyden jar or simular capacitor to capture the fast high energy beta decay electrons to charge up this capacitor...

Good luck.

Best regards, Stefan.

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Re: Testatika small machine testbed
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2007, 06:27:44 AM »
Hi Steven,
have you tested to pulse with High Voltage some lightly radiocative quartz crystals ?

I guess they just pulse HV bursts onto these quartz crystals to release exited beta decay
and this is collected in the leyden jars.
All machines have some crystals in them.
In the small machines the crystals are  at the front, where the coils are wound around them and the mesh
metals are in front of it and in the big 3KW machine they had mountain crystal stones
in the leyden jars at the backside of the machines.
I was told this by Stefan Marinov, whom I was in contact with andwho visited also Methernitha
and had a look into all the machines.

Also when I was there at Methernitha in Linden in 1989 I was told that the secret is
in the crystals,which I did not understand at this time, but today it is pretty clear,
how they do it...

As some other researchers have shown, that you can excite beta decay by RF high voltage bursts,
just try this and see, how much energy you can gain from exciting a beta decay crystal with RF high voltage bursts.

Put it in a lyden jar or simular capacitor to capture the fast high energy beta decay electrons to charge up this capacitor...

Good luck.

Best regards, Stefan.

hey hartiberlin,

This is not dangerous to manipulate this kind of quartz? also what quartz crystals you are talking about?

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Re: Testatika small machine testbed
« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2007, 06:39:03 AM »
Mountain crystals.
As Linden, where Methernitha is located is near the Switzerland mountains
and Paul Baumann was a crystal collector, he had collected many rocks in the nearby mountains and
they had a room for display of the crystals he had collected
there, when I was there in 1989.

He was a watchmaker and had great knowledge also of crystals,
so he might have just stombled about this effect to release beta decay
electrons from lightly radioactive mountain crystals
when he experimented with electrostatics from
old audio long play discs and and acryl discs.
He might have accidently pulsed some crystals with the
spark discharges of these high voltage experiments
and then saw  an energy amplification.

Nowmally these lightly radioactive mountain crystals are not dangerous.
They have only very weak radiation.
But when you hit them with some
high voltage radio frequency bursts they will
release an excited decay of fast beta decay electrons,
which can be captured by a capacitor and charge it up.

You could put them between capacitor plates or also hit them
with a coil wound around them and capture the electrons in the capacitor
plates or mesh plates...

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Testatika small machine testbed
« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2007, 08:16:28 AM »
This sounds so Henry Moray and his "Swedish" stones its crazy.. when you say slightly radioactive, can you quantify how many Counts per minute they would give off?

Thanks
Mountain crystals.
As Linden, where Methernitha is located is near the Switzerland mountains
and Paul Baumann was a crystal collector, he had collected many rocks in the nearby mountains and
they had a room for display of the crystals he had collected
there, when I was there in 1989.

He was a watchmaker and had great knowledge also of crystals,
so he might have just stombled about this effect to release beta decay
electrons from lightly radioactive mountain crystals
when he experimented with electrostatics from
old audio long play discs and and acryl discs.
He might have accidentally pulsed some crystals with the
spark discharges of these high voltage experiments
and then saw  an energy amplification.

Normally these lightly radioactive mountain crystals are not dangerous.
They have only very weak radiation.
But when you hit them with some
high voltage radio frequency bursts they will
release an excited decay of fast beta decay electrons,
which can be captured by a capacitor and charge it up.

You could put them between capacitor plates or also hit them
with a coil wound around them and capture the electrons in the capacitor
plates or mesh plates...

Regards, Stefan.
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Re: Testatika small machine testbed
« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2007, 02:49:24 PM »
Steve,
some time ago I was asking you @rimstar about your opinion to introduce the electrophorus principle as a main principle also in history.

Hi Karl,
I remember our conversation. I'm happy to see you've done some experimenting.

My demonstrator is tested and there are some good results whiche gives me further insights to the electrophorus.
The electrophorus in an rotational state (es sectors) or in a slightly vibratory state (up and down without touching the dipole surface) will generate a AC current. also when loaded with low ohmic resistors as a nulb in plasmastate.
There is no need for a spark at all.
Connect a small bulb out of a voltage checker (Ne?) continiously between the upper surface of the mover and the metal foil which lies under the rubbed record and make only slight movements in each direction?s-> No sparks but nearly continuous current through the bulb.

I've been getting AC (or AV) from similar arrangements for a couple of years now, but no useful
current, for example:
 http://rimstar.org/sdenergy/testa/smallmach2.htm
How much current would be required to light your small bulb?

Hyde proposed 10% of the output is used to drive a ac (induction motor?) or small dc motor which is coupled to the rotor(s).
No significant losses due to backdrag or airresistence (use vacuum for maximal performance).
No rotating brushes or coals only wires.
Have also a look again on the simplified decouple cuircuit (AC) and the step down DC-Version.
Verry interesting insights may occour when combining the elektrophorus principle with the hyde machine.

I attach the patent for the simplicity of the situation.

Thanks. The Hyde motor has always exited me even more than the testatika. The similarities
are interesting.
-Steve
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Re: Testatika small machine testbed
« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2007, 03:04:40 PM »
Hi Steven,
have you tested to pulse with High Voltage some lightly radiocative quartz crystals ?

Hi Stefan,
I haven't tested the testatika with any radioactive material though I do have a bunch
of Americium which I've taken from ionizing smoke detectors. They give off alpha particles.
I've been hoping the energy source is ZPE so that no non-renewable materials would
be needed. I guess I'll have to include pulsing quartz crystals on my todo list. I grew
up in a mining area in Labrador (part of the Canadian province of Newfoundland & Labrador)
where there is plenty of quartz in the mountains. I've always wanted to visit there again.

Most are probably already familiar with it, but the Harold Colman and Ronald Seddon-Gillespie
patent from Great Brittain 763,062:
 http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=GB763062&F=0
is also quite relevant.

Thanks for all your insight. There aren't many people around who've been to Methernitha
so your input is valuable.
-Steve
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Re: Testatika small machine testbed
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2007, 05:56:44 AM »
@ Steve - I'm looking at makeing the disks first to get the Ion flow. In the back tower off the motor using a gum rubber belt (Van De Graph type ) runnig the radious of the disk to produse ion flow to the disks. One the Quratz stone , in that area of the swizz the stone there is high in lead , much of the industry in the past was makeing glass, and later makeing optic blanks so I'm filimaure with the matreials. these are natural Electrcts, and plastics of sorts are to depending how there used. Ceramic Eletrcts can be found in old microphones that are great for expierimenting with. still studying. Did you get the Hamel drum up and running ?  thanks Mike 

 

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