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Author Topic: Split Flux Transformer  (Read 52134 times)

seaad

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Re: Split Flux Transformer
« Reply #90 on: January 21, 2019, 03:53:28 PM »
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lancaIV

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Re: Split Flux Transformer
« Reply #91 on: January 24, 2019, 06:12:27 AM »
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seaad

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Re: Split Flux Transformer
« Reply #92 on: January 24, 2019, 04:40:22 PM »
LancaIR, it seems that you took aim more accurate this time.

 The interesting patent from Tanaka Saburo must be an item we have to investigate more in and test.
Thank you.
And maybe the rest also.
If we get lucky, hopefully  that works. Let's see.

If this principle works with a working loop (pic /2/ )configuration then my question about the math and phase in post #76 is not valid  anymore.
 
[ relevant / valid for split flux transformers ??
 Volt x Amp x Cos to phase angle = Input wattage  Real Power.]

Regards Arne
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seaad

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Re: Split Flux Transformer
« Reply #93 on: January 26, 2019, 10:54:35 AM »

 I can't find anything true and useful  in the patent from Tanaka Saburo so far,  maybe someone else can?
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lancaIV

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Re: Split Flux Transformer
« Reply #94 on: January 26, 2019, 11:50:14 AM »
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seaad

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Re: Split Flux Transformer
« Reply #95 on: January 26, 2019, 12:06:57 PM »
Please lancaIV test your suggestions before release.
I'm doing so mostly, not always.
But of course it's really easy to fool yourself
even with a test.

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lancaIV

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Re: Split Flux Transformer
« Reply #96 on: January 27, 2019, 01:34:28 PM »
Hello seaad,
clearly the opinion that the written processes has to be tested and appropriate constructed !
applied 1965, page 30 from the " original document" , related EMK or EMF and the Max./Min flux relationship   in correlation with " Lenzs' Law"( inverse : Flemings' Law)
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=DE&NR=1488837A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=5&date=19690313&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#
For 2 KW output only 75 Gr. permanent magnet weight !
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=4&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19761217&CC=FR&NR=2312135A1&KC=A1#
This as final theoretical input !
Wishing experimental success
OCWL

p.s.:    2008 in ES, Spain granted but now free            http://invenes.oepm.es/InvenesWeb/detalle?referencia=P200403033
           probably for interest his circuit
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ramset

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Re: Split Flux Transformer
« Reply #97 on: August 01, 2019, 01:45:39 AM »
BUMP
underconstruction
Seaad has made a claim,of seeing an anomaly here ,I do believe he filed for a patent application [he wrote this somewhere here or another forum ??
regardless its good to investigate and very simple ...if I am mistaken he will correct me !
Chet K
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a.king21

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Re: Split Flux Transformer
« Reply #98 on: August 01, 2019, 03:43:17 AM »
Apparently Thane Heinz got the phase shift to nearly ninety degrees and claims infinite efficiency. Definitely OU claim.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwUAAKFd69s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8NunH9TzFk&list=PLFEHIlsTyqx_KlRsYA8NKBOwtNoYh7AGk


These 2 videos definitely worth  watching.
Seems it may work with ferrite cores.  I have plenty of these knocking around and will try to find the time to build it
within a few weeks.


Many years ago I rang Ottawa university and spoke to some students who had replicated and  were very exuberant on video. 


When I spoke to them however they clammed up and were very nervous.  They sounded as nervous as when
I rang the Lutec guys in Australia.  So something is definitely going on here that the establishment does not want us to see.


EDIT:  I enclose a pic of the Thane Heinz trafo for  comparison..  the similarities are just too big to ignore.
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Void

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Re: Split Flux Transformer
« Reply #99 on: August 01, 2019, 04:49:02 AM »
Hi Seaad and Ramset,
I looked up that patent and I see that it should be fairly easy to try to replicate that transformer layout.
I am attaching a drawing from the patent. I have too many things on the go already,
but I will see if I can get a chance to try to replicate it sometime in the near future.

See the attached drawing from the patent (DE102004029434 by Adam Lorek).
I added a few comments to the drawing for clarification.


a.king: I have tried the Thane Heins transformer arrrangement in the past and found that it did not work,
in the sense of being a useable transformer. It does show a large phase angle on the
primary due to the high leakage flux, but I found that due to this high leakage flux it was
not able to deliver anything other than a very tiny amount of power to a load. If that transformer
had really worked, you can bet Thane Heins would have been marketing it, but he moved on
to his electric motor device and he has been focusing on that, from what I saw.

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seaad

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Re: Split Flux Transformer
« Reply #100 on: August 01, 2019, 09:35:59 AM »
Chet K, all

Yea, you are right. Pat. pending in that sense it's still in my drawer.
It was - IS, still a gift [a Christmas  gift then] .
I'm not Rick.

Regards Arne
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Re: Split Flux Transformer
« Reply #101 on: August 01, 2019, 11:53:44 AM »
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gyulasun

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Re: Split Flux Transformer
« Reply #102 on: August 01, 2019, 12:15:36 PM »
Quote from: seychelles on August 01, 2019, 11:53:44 AM
Just passing by.
https://patents.google.com/patent/DE102004029434A1/en
Yes, it looks like an acceptable translation from German. Here is another machine translation from the European Patent Office free service: 
http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=102004029434&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en       

Here is the translation of the Claims:
http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=claims-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=102004029434&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en   

I attached patent Figure 1 below,  Figure 2 was posted above by void, these two Figures were included in the patent. 

Gyula
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seaad

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Re: Split Flux Transformer
« Reply #103 on: August 01, 2019, 01:08:52 PM »
Using normal transformer Si-Fe laminate I found it impossible to even come near to 1=100% efficiency.

Arne
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Jeg

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Re: Split Flux Transformer
« Reply #104 on: August 01, 2019, 02:40:27 PM »
Guys don't forget member Fernandez. He also uses two primaries and one secondary on a simple closed flux iron transformer. He was insisting about 90 degrees def between the primaries..
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