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Author Topic: Thailand Free energy motorcycle  (Read 74498 times)

Offline Newton II

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Re: Thailand Free energy motorcycle
« Reply #30 on: May 11, 2017, 04:21:36 AM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gQ8JjEf1GA


My doubt is whether that little generator / motor  having small coils could generate enough torque to pull  weight of bike and a person sitting on it?  What is the power to size (weight) ratio of a generator / motor?

Offline rakarskiy

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Re: Thailand Free energy motorcycle
« Reply #31 on: May 11, 2017, 06:23:17 AM »
Here are clips of that device that are in English from Infinity SAV, however no longer are their on their YT channel.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIzehAP5URQ
 
http://ua-hho.do.am/publ/idei_po_ehnergii/model_samogo_prostogo_motor_generatora/2-1-0-237
 
Here is the William Alek presentation and his new patent on that Scooter charger..
 
http://auroratek.us/COMPANY.html
http://auroratek.us/NEWS.html
 
http://auroratek.us/uploads/US9620280B2.pdf
 
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztRr-dUs6EU
 
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_qGHzYorAsR4sYi3m50sA/videos

These devices, most likely, are built with the use of geraters, without resistance to rotation:
https://youtu.be/Jr7yOPmfCCk
https://youtu.be/R1gqd9LSkJ0

Website of the company A.Slobodian (Seoul, Korea)   http://infinitysav.com/
Youtoub Canal Infiniti SAV Team (Seoul, Korea) https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_qGHzYorAsR4sYi3m50sA

But there are similar devices, "The Legend of a Chinese Electric Bicycle That Generates Energy on the Move"
https://youtu.be/Vp96a-fVPss   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZVT28clGmo&action_view=1&video_referrer=watch
Representation of a Chinese company in Korea: Procon Electronics Co., Ltd - http://www.procongroup.org/

Yours faithfully!



Offline tinman

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Re: Thailand Free energy motorcycle
« Reply #32 on: May 11, 2017, 02:53:00 PM »
[/b]It would almost Free Wheel, so to speak.
Can anybody tell if the Coils are Air Core or Iron Core?  It's hard to tell.
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Tell me if I'm wrong, but it looks like the pick-up Coils are Parallel to the
rotation direction.  If that's true, then there would be ZERO" Lens Effect"
Dragging.

Yes-you are wrong.
The lenz effect will still be there.

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As opposed to Regular AC Alternators whereby the coils are Perpendicular to the
rotation direction & produce the Well-Known Dragging Effect. See Photo 2 at bottom.

The magnetic fields are still cutting the winding's.
It makes no difference which way you have the coils.

This is just another hogwash job.
Why the need for a battery,if the generator is producing more power than the motor is consuming ?
Why not just a large capacitor instead?.


Brad

Offline FatBird

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Re: Thailand Free energy motorcycle
« Reply #33 on: May 11, 2017, 03:11:54 PM »
Bike Video shows the F E motor turning VERY SLOWLY.  Maybe that's all it needs to do the job?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gQ8JjEf1GA

Anybody have a hunch why some of the Pick Up Coils are at Different Angles?   According To Conventional
Motor/Generator Theory, all coils are normally Perpendicular to the rotating magnetic fields.  See bottom photo below.

Also, this other video claims the Bike F E Motor can output 5 KW (5,000 WATTS).  That's Absolutely Amazing for it's small size.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZO5KBeKYVs
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« Last Edit: May 11, 2017, 07:21:32 PM by FatBird »

Offline ramset

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Re: Thailand Free energy motorcycle
« Reply #34 on: May 11, 2017, 03:33:18 PM »
I can't see it very well
But that coil at 9;00 looks dislodged form its original placement?

??

Offline AlienGrey

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Re: Thailand Free energy motorcycle
« Reply #35 on: May 11, 2017, 11:31:10 PM »
I don't know, you kids, don't you know how to balance out poor old Lens law ?

It cost some guy his life working it out he died of cancer in strange circumstances.

Anyone name this man ?

« Last Edit: May 12, 2017, 09:44:27 AM by AlienGrey »

Offline Newton II

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Re: Thailand Free energy motorcycle
« Reply #36 on: May 12, 2017, 06:08:34 AM »

Anybody have a hunch why some of the Pick Up Coils are at Different Angles?   According To Conventional
Motor/Generator Theory, all coils are normally Perpendicular to the rotating magnetic fields. 
                                                                                                                                 

As I understand,  that thingy is designed to work both as generator and motor.  The perpendicular coils are for synchronous motor effect wherein the AC magnetic field in the coil couples with neo magnets provided on the rotor making it a synchronous motor.   The parallel coils are generator coils which generate AC without experiencing lenz drag. (really?)

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Re: Thailand Free energy motorcycle
« Reply #37 on: May 12, 2017, 09:22:59 PM »
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Offline justawatt

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Re: Thailand Free energy motorcycle
« Reply #38 on: May 13, 2017, 11:05:15 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwHSI6hDr7o&spfreload=10

this guys work will help understand better working of thailand device.

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Re: Thailand Free energy motorcycle
« Reply #39 on: May 17, 2017, 08:40:48 PM »
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Offline SkyWatcher123

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Re: Thailand Free energy motorcycle
« Reply #40 on: May 17, 2017, 10:28:15 PM »
I can name him brothergrey, his name was John Bedini.
Soon, these people will not have the power to pull this stuff off anymore.
peace love light
Oh, and i want to add this, if you are quitting the free energy scene Peter Lindemann, because you are scared they will do the same to you, death is an illusion my friend, we continue on forever.
You've gone this far, why stop now, release the fear.

Offline rakarskiy

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Re: Thailand Free energy motorcycle
« Reply #41 on: May 18, 2017, 05:37:08 AM »
Developments Bedini, to this device, have no relationship. In these devices has a basic value, a one-stage shift of the angle of interaction of the coils and the rotor magnets.
As a result, we obtain a zero resistance to rotation (compensation of the attraction vectors for acceleration and deceleration)

Offline SkyWatcher123

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Re: Thailand Free energy motorcycle
« Reply #42 on: May 18, 2017, 09:43:33 PM »
Hi rakarskiy, i know, was just going off topic commenting back to aliengrey.
I have seen interesting things with a very large coil newman type motor, when i turned the coil on its side, just like in this device being shown.
When the position of the coil was adjusted just right in relation the shaft full of neo magnets, i did not see any lenz drag, though it was generating current just fine.
The geometry and positioning i'm sure is critical in this design, just like the timing of an internal combustion engine.
peace love light

Offline NickZ

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Re: Thailand Free energy motorcycle
« Reply #43 on: May 19, 2017, 01:14:48 AM »
Yes-you are wrong.
The lenz effect will still be there.

The magnetic fields are still cutting the winding's.
It makes no difference which way you have the coils.

This is just another hogwash job.
Why the need for a battery,if the generator is producing more power than the motor is consuming ?
Why not just a large capacitor instead?

    Tinman:
   Good point, but perhaps it's a good start, using the battery and all.
   Akula's first self running device also needed a battery to keep it stable, otherwise it would overheat without it.
Further improvement on Akula's second self runner did not need a battery. Only to start the device.

   A couple of young Mexican also had a self recharging bike. It ran for 5 months without needing the battery to be recharged.
They showed it in several places.  What ever happened to that???  Hogwash? Perhaps...
  There are other electric bikes that are self-recharging as well.
   Time will tell... what is the truth, or just hogwash.
                                                                             NickZ

   P.S.  I have two motorized bikes, 66cc. And I'd love to see them converted to electric motors, and able to recharge themselves.
   However, 100+ miles per gallon is not so bad, for now. Compared to the price of batteries to run the 1000w motors.



Offline rakarskiy

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Re: Thailand Free energy motorcycle
« Reply #44 on: May 19, 2017, 10:41:01 AM »
Hi rakarskiy, i know, was just going off topic commenting back to aliengrey.
I have seen interesting things with a very large coil newman type motor, when i turned the coil on its side, just like in this device being shown.
When the position of the coil was adjusted just right in relation the shaft full of neo magnets, i did not see any lenz drag, though it was generating current just fine.
The geometry and positioning i'm sure is critical in this design, just like the timing of an internal combustion engine.
peace love light

The usual layout of the frame. Cole's system (the modernization of Bedini), but this is another story, but also true.