This guy had better apparatus in 2010 and I'm sure he discovered it before 2008.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-NhDeNGh7M

Just a side note

Quote Aaron:

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But what nobody has ever done because actually many said it couldn't be done was that I used the SAME capacitor for the capacitive discharge input to the primary giving a cdi spark AND SIMULTANEOUSLY used the SAME capacitor to serve as the low voltage high current source that will jump the gap. They said it couldn't be done because they don't understand how it works. They claimed when the capacitor hits the primary that it completely discharged but I knew better. Hardly any gets to the primary to make the spark and when it is made the rest, which is most of it jumps the gap causing the plasma. The only truly significant innovation to plasma jet ignition systems in over 40 years - and I am the sole inventor of it.

Oddly enough,being a mechanic for over 38 years now,i remember systems like this years ago.
So thought i would go on the hunt.

Below is Aarons diagrams of his and Luc's !!plasma!! ignition systems.
Also is an ignition system designed by a man called Toshimi Abo
He designed and patented this ignition system back in 1981 

But Aaron is the sole inventor lol

Aint that a hoot.

Hi Brad,

I remember when that thread first started and Luc presented his claims.  Aaron questioned whether or not a high voltage low current arc could then carry a high current at low voltage.  I replied that tig welders did it all the time.  When you first step on the pedal on a tig welder a high voltage high frequency source is connected to the tig torch.  This starts the arc and then the high current low voltage follows the arc to heat the metal so it can be welded.  After I posted that information he then came back and said he knew that but blah,blah,blah.  If he really knew that then why did he question what Luc had posted?

If he reads this those posts will probably disappear if they haven't already been removed.

Take care,
Carroll

Yep,have both types of machines--the old scratch start,and the newer proximity start(HV arc start)

Slowly people are starting to see what Aaron,Peter linderman,and the late JB are really about.

Take the !!lockridge!! device for example.
A device fabricated by the JB team,in the hopes of making some quick dollars from yet another book of rubbish.
You simply have to do a google search,and every single page on the !!lockridge!! device has there name plastered all over it.
Seems not one single person in the world(other than the above mentioned) knew of this device.
It is also true that the JB team could not produce this self running VW generator to any one other than them selves--not one single demonstration of this wonder machine working-->but you could buy the book 

I use to have a good laugh at the SSG group,when they would present there 1 ohm test as proof that the SSG was producing more power than it consumed. This is a clear case that even the inventor did not understand his own machines--they didnt know a current loop when it was right there in front of them 

I know they have to make a living too 

But perhaps if they had shared these secrets in 1984 ...or since...??

they would not be on the Leeward side of the Gifts from 
Fukushima and the ongoing 'China Syndrome"meltdown....


ask anyone with a Geiger counter what is happening on the leeward side of
Fukushima maybe a good follow up to all these "secrets that would save the world Books"



should be ??


selfishness run amuk ??
or

the consequences of my inaction ??


all the folks who hide behind the FE will end the world and cause chaos ??
should get a Geiger counter


what goes around
Fukushima comes around...
the whole planet ,and its not fixed yet....


some say an "extinction level" event is in play.

Maybe there was an issue when the cold war was going on to hide everything and research it in secret. Now the threat is more about the consuming that has only increased since WW2. I think nuclear power is something like a backdoor to the running system. It is there, but we are not supposed to use it, because we can take all the energy we need from other means.

Spending resources and consuming has reached a level that can only be logical if they already colonized at least some moons or planets in this solar system. Not even the greediest fuck would cut down all the forests to make money and then choke on top of a pile of money from the lack of oxygen.

This is how I see it.

I think there is a Creator. It might be just the consciousness or heck maybe it is some kinda intelligent entity. Religions are 5% about this entity and 95% politics.
There are other solar systems. This means we are supposed to go there or they are supposed to come here. If it is all about us, then no intelligent Creator would make GAZILLIONS of stars&planets. Not even if bored
In addition there are billions of galaxies. There is no way that we are the only intelligent life. If they are coming here, they are not using coal or oil. I doubt they are using nuclear either.
Nuclear power will eventually break from what ever shelter you make for it and then it kills all life. This is not something the Creator was planning for us to use.

So there is a power source we can use. I believe we can arrange circumstances so, that Nature will give us electricity that was not put into the system by us. Some organizations have this and other technology and they are out there making headway and what they should do is let all the crazy pioneers out there to do their glass dome weed farms in the asteroid belt.

Sure there is going to be problems like some fanatic making a saucer and dropping TNT into the White House, but this is shit that is going to happen anyway. It is not about the technology, but how this guy came to this conclusion, that this is a good idea? If you invade countries and bomb nations to stone age then you are always in danger of someone dropping TNT into your house.

So what we need to watch out for in the future:

Leader that says "God is with us. Let's go kill those other people"
Anybody who says "I know what God thinks and he says we need to do some (raping and) killing"
Any religion, that puts people ahead of other people.
Letting our governments tell us what to do, who to kill and what to eat and still call it democracy (making you choose between 2 candidates that are both owned by the same corporations is not democracy...)
We gotta start loving ourselves and other people. Nobody is coming after you, if you love them too much. This means you don't need to live in fear and kill people just to be sure
If you take the other route and kill your enemies and just to be sure kill those that you are not sure about, then you are fucked for ever. No nation is so powerful or big, that will not be a bigger one that will stomp you.
If you are the last nation alive, then you are just watching your own people and eventually they will overthrow you.
All the this insane spending and consuming is not all about money. They got some weird plan why they need us to fuck up this planet.

I think that was a good rant!

This forum is infested by Russian trolls and Stefan is doing nothing against it. I can see @Tinman is also leaving this forum by now... :-(
If someone wants to discuss some sourced ! ideas or experiments, he can post it here, but all trolling (dumb / pointless verbiage or pathoskeptic BS) will be deleted from there with no mercy.

Continued from above

EMJunkie went as far as to claim I did not understand the use of, or the meaning of the = sign in this 'equation' he wrote and I only quoted it from him:                                 
                1 Watt second = 1 Joule per second

see this here: 
https://overunity.com/18464/partnered-output-coils-builders-group-moderated/msg546916/#msg546916 

and his "explanation" for that equation is  "Joules per Second = Joules per Second, quantified by the Value or Units of, the term being of equal value, 
or equal in Units, not necessarily defined by the value."   

Did you notice? He simple changed his original   "1 Watt second = 1 Joule per second"    to    "Joules per Second = Joules per Second".

   And he wrote I was acting like a Juveline and that I should be ashamed of myself.  This is hilarious!

Then he went on deleting my other posts and also the posts of the other member we made last night.

Because I saved my posts, I reposted one of them and this time EMJunkie did not delete it :
https://overunity.com/18464/partnered-output-coils-builders-group-moderated/msg546923/#msg546923 

but he continued to belittle me. of course.

I attach a deleted post of mine and that includes EMJunkie's reply to that post in which he wrote to me:
"Childish and Petty Gyula! Really, get out of the mud, and make some sense!"    So he deleted his post together with mine but I saved it and attached.

The astute readers here surely notice that in the last 2 days  EMJunkie has started to use the correct units of energy and power
by writing the correct equations and also attaching numerous picture quotes on them in both of his threads he can moderate. 
So he wants to sweep his earlier 'deeds' under the rug and also blaming me and the other forum member for his mistakes. 

What a character !   What do you all think?

Gyula

PS I include the top part text of the below attachment to make it readable easier:

Chris, 
 I did not mean Smudge or lancaIV came to my rescue.   The astute readers here surely understand the thoughts of Smudge from his post, 
I quote the relevant part: 

 "...  I note the various disagreements that have occurred on matters like use of RMS for power measurements, the silly name of
this thread "Partnered Output Coils", 1 Watt second = 1 Joule per second and so on.  ..."    (bold is from me)   

Re lancaIV: his post (you also refer to) on interpreting angular momentum backed up the fact that Joule-second has nothing to do 
with the units of electrical energy or power  while earlier  you did bring it up against me as if it was me who wrote it wrongly. 
It was you who brought up Joule-second first in connection with electrical energy, not me. Your table on Si Units shows the difference
of units for Power and Angular Momentum.
You wrote to lancaIV: "I am learning also, and sometimes I am not right.  In this case, my posts were directly from Source material, 
learned and cross referenced. That's why Gyula is wrong and I am standing my Ground!"   (bold is from me)

Bingo! Your good move towards admitting sometimes you are not right: now you need a small step only to tell you made a mistake 
in writing this: 1 Watt second = 1 Joule per second etc.   

You can keep deleting posts of course,  and you can blame me for your mistakes you made but instead it would be a simple sentence   
to write you was not right with using the units in question. And that you have learned indeed proving you are ready for it. 

Gyula

Here is the Table on SI Units too  what EMJunkie uploaded here first to show the units of Power and encircled it in red to show everybody: lo he knows that...  but it was on June 16, and the debate started on June 13 when he wrote : "when you specify Watt, it is Watt second".


Also,  the units (Joule-second)  of Angular Momentum is also included in the same table what I encircled now too.   It is funny he did not know or notice this earlier when he first blamed me for my mixing up the two but it was his confusion.

Gyula

Gentlemen also I hope some discussion on RMS and measurements can be discussed... as many are confused about how the temp of a bulb could not give clues to its output ? Ion had taught us a method to scale the bulb with a thermometer [a quick calibration method]
run the chosen bulb at 1 watt increments and measure its temp [or 1/10th ?] ....scale every watt and note its temperature... or every 5 or ten watts etc etc...then a researcher can take a bulbs temp and know the power going thru it !and if all researchers have the same bulb....they can know the power output...and compare results...example: i have bulb manufacturer XYZ  part number ******** and its showing 50C or then I can know power from quick calibration chart.[or somebody in another country can run test and verify power by temperature [not sure power is proper word here ??]



I probably did not do a good job explaining this to Chris ...however almost all persons I have asked since his dismissal
of this caloric method have disagreed .
to be clear..its part of ION's fixed loss to ambient test protocol [was outlined in Chris topic] protocol was specifically designed for
making quality measurements on difficult circuits [HF...RF...nonlinear ...or meters go haywire or Oscilloscope  probes can't touch "sniff " circuit etc etc...also saves from damaging test equipment at times...and allows those with no expensive equipment tojoin in the fun...[with good data or reliable test results.

I will also be asking Smudge for opinion here too.
not looking to start fights just to understand....The better an experimenter can be on his bench and sharing results...the better we all can be in getting there faster.
respectfully...Chet K
PS
I refer to member ions fixed loss to ambient test protocol which will have a tutorial in the coming weeks.