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ramset

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THE RANT ROOM
« on: April 25, 2017, 10:30:05 AM »
Icarus
No its not childish
its criminal

this member Zephir decided that he was going to take over Stefan's forum
so he posted lies about replicators here [most/ALL  serious persons building here

he said they are liars and frauds who actively work to hide OU at OU.com
he then says OU is easy.

I have no idea why Stefan has allowed this here ,it is the worst violation of his TOS I HAVE EVER SEEN HERE

it is truly Vulgar to the men  that have worked together for so long and spent soo much time and effort open sourcing their work

and the final Kick in the groin from Zephir after saying OU is easy these liars and criminals  hide it here??

NOTHING next from him to qualify  OU is easy

crickets chirping from him  ,instead he points to ..... assumptions ??

most here figured he would have something to Show ???????????????

all lies from Zephir about the members here and just theories with many many words that lead to ??

certainly not his claim
OU is easy ????

no it is not easy

the better question

why is this man here  ??

if you were unaware of his behavior here towards members [all longtime experimenters here?] now you know.

but he will delete this again
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naah, Zephir came to burn the house down

he's doing a good job ,

but what he builds after??

OU is easy ??

mud and twigs on nothing of substance

No proof that OU is easy and no proof that the builders  are all liars  who hide it for years and years at OU.com.

show us great Zephir

this easy OU

anything ??
but never assume we will not measure it...we have become very good here at measuring

you apparently [Zephir] haven't a clue how to properly measure ,and see OU in every you tube video and every fair wind that blows thru your ears....
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I suppose the Zephir did not count on all serious members here working together and sharing

it is after all an Open source forum ??

and they [longtime dedicated members here] are after all,,,, the best of the best !!

not like Zephir at all










Dog-One

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Re: THE RANT ROOM
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2017, 09:56:44 PM »
I just hung up with Stefan about the problem here

should be sorted in a day or so.

Cool, guessing he will just delete everything right?

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Re: THE RANT ROOM
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2017, 10:21:34 PM »
Well isn't that what the poison moderator has been doing ? So if above is true when will it be safe to post stuff on the thread without fear of ridicule and efforts and hard work being deleted ?

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Re: THE RANT ROOM
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2017, 10:45:02 PM »
I don't want to delete anything from your precious insights and to waste it for future generations in this way. But some posts are apparently off-topic here and they deserve for example this thread. Of course this relocation should preserve the continuity of discussion, it should be done sensibly and it can also wait for later. Once you will stay on topic, then you have absolutely nothing to afraid.

Dog-One

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Re: THE RANT ROOM
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2017, 11:00:07 PM »
Hmmm...   Think about this:

Suppose I had a self-runner that I replicated several times already.  It was cheap
to make, had lots of output power and would work flawlessly any place on the
planet.  Everyone knew I had it and wanted details that I was willing to share.
But being a bit of an asshat, I posted something that got me permanently banned
from this forum.

Would anyone clear my name?  Would anyone stick up for me?

Or would things go dark and be kept in private?

Zephir

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Re: THE RANT ROOM
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2017, 11:10:56 PM »
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Would anyone clear my name?  Would anyone stick up for me? Or would things go dark and be kept in private?

In general only posts violating netiquette should be deleted, but not their authors as a whole. There are many less or more unobtrusive ways (other than plain moderation), how to keep the public from the progress in overunity and actual truth. The surprisingly high number of posters on this forum, who are willingly utilize every opportunity how to dilute the discussion about subject may be also one of the ways, how to do disrupt the overunity progress and its public awareness. Such an effort may not be centrally organized at all for still being effective - on the contrary. Too many scientists and their wannabes hate the overunity subject heartily and they're willing to spend time for its disruption.

I just tried to relocate one of off-topic posts here into an existing thread "Re: Inventors and replicators - social aspects of overunity community". The relocation interface is straightforward: it enables you to determine the name of target thread and the individual posts from the original thread, which should be relocated. And it also works - the problem is, even when I use the existing thread name exactly the same, new thread will be still formed. So that there is no smooth way, how to move off-topic posts into some dedicated forum or even how to return them back again: the existing engine simply doesn't support it - or I missed some detail.

I'll ask Stefan, what could be done with it.

Dog-One

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Re: THE RANT ROOM
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2017, 11:24:36 PM »
So what you're saying Zephir is that I'm not capable of using my own discernment to separate the wheat from the chaff?

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Now I'm myself cluttering the Nelson Rocha forum in (probably futile) attempts to explain my attitude regarding the moderation of this forum. We both are interested about Nelson Rocha's device - yet our discussion already got off topic and it needs to be cleaned on behalf of another users, who are still posting insightful and relevant posts under hope, this thread will be finally just about its subject.

So that all posts which aren't related to thread topic should be (and they will be) relocated into a new thread.


Just keep putting words in my mouth and I'll bug out of this place.  I have enough friends I don't need this!

Who was the knucklehead that started this whole moderation thing anyway?
« Last Edit: April 25, 2017, 11:44:34 PM by Zephir »

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Re: THE RANT ROOM
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2017, 01:19:28 AM »
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Just keep putting words in my mouth and I'll bug out of this place.

Easy man, I did it by accident and please accept my apology for it. There are way too many edit boxes all around my screen... ;-)

Personally I don't see any usage for editing the foreign posts (such a post could be always moved into the bin or relocated as a whole) - but I still have this option available (and my posts were also modified by another moderators here in the past).

But as you can see, now you're also willing to ruin whole overunity forum and work of many other people here just because of your momentary private feelings and negative attitude. So you also may not be always able to separate "the wheat from the chaff".

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Re: THE RANT ROOM
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2017, 01:21:46 AM »
Looks like Rant Rooms popping up on every corner........I heard this one is gonna serve free doughnut with Java?......can't get that kinda service at every Rant Room.  :P

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« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2017, 01:34:52 AM »
The true is, the free energy people aren't very disciplined by their very nature - just because they tend to think out of box. From the same reason, they don't like any authority. But just this creativity and lack of discipline can become a brake of further progress and relevant discussion on this forum. It's not secret for me, that actual progress in overunity was never made in this forum - in essence all really interesting stuffs were always borrowed here from somewhere else. But now its veteran members became tired and they stopped to collect a new info about overunity from outside. By now this forum stagnates because of its verbosity, which deters people from outside, who would otherwise had to say something more relevant and interesting.

As I explained above, the software engine of this forum also doesn't allow to move/relocate off-topic posts into some dedicated thread - instead of it new thread will be established during every relocation. So that new RANT ROOMS may be currently underway if the people in this particular board will not learn to cooperate. It's just my experiment with Stephan arranged here and I cannot guarantee, it will be successful if all people here will decide to boycott it. If you all will decide to keep the clueless mess here, you'll simply have it - and no one could prohibit you in having it.

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Re: THE RANT ROOM
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2017, 01:53:11 AM »
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You are wrong, You have an opinion not a truth

The same may apply to your opinion. It's true that some of discussions here are mirrored at another overunity forums.

But the truth also is, these forums aren't more successful regarding the development of the overunity anyway. If I want to be informed about new ideas and working prototypes or private research, I simply have to visit Russian forums, sites like this one and/or YouTube. This is sad reality of the overunity progress at the Western world. 

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but leave us alone

Who is "you"? This forum is opened for all people from the world. If you want to have closed sectarian forum, then you can use the overunityresearch.com for example, which is currently opened for invitations only. I can say easily as well, that the groups of users here privatized this forum for to promote and maintain their way of discussion, which prohibits the further development.

ramset

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Re: THE RANT ROOM
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2017, 02:48:16 AM »
I DID NOT START THIS TOPIC OF MOVED POSTS AND HEAVILY EDITED POSTS----------------------

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but I will comment here ,

Zephir
Children learn young to light fires elsewhere instead of looking in the mirror.

Overunityresearch is a steadfast Open source forum, always has been always will be.
if you want an example of why there are such places?

Look in the mirror..

  here there are very serious and dedicated men who Love Stefan's house and respect his rules ]Not the Zephir]
here they would never do anything to hurt Stefan or his pocketbook ,by posting libelous claims
and lies against members here [NOT The Zephir]

here they Obey terms of service agreement
Not the Zephir

you say some things which ring true
and many many more that read like kindergarten OU

example : OU is easy they [the membership] hides it here

and then there are the Lies about members here spending their days making fraudulent replications so as to Hide "OU is easy "

Pal
you are off the deep end...

as The Dog says there are plenty of other places to go [for us]

I think you need to go find such a place so the rest of us can stay here...




Dog-One

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Re: THE RANT ROOM
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2017, 03:06:36 AM »
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Easy man, I did it by accident and please accept my apology for it.

No need to apologize, we know where you are coming from.

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(and my posts were also modified by another moderators here in the past).

Gives you that warm fuzzy feeling doesn't it?

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But as you can see, now you're also willing to ruin whole overunity forum and work of many other people here just because of your momentary private feelings and negative attitude.

Like it or not Zephir, over-unity is coming to a neighborhood near you and possibly
rather soon.  A wrecked overunity forum isn't going to be the end of the world.

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So you also may not be always able to separate "the wheat from the chaff".

I know how to separate myself from the rest if need be.

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The true is, the free energy people aren't very disciplined by their very nature - just because they tend to think out of box. From the same reason, they don't like any authority. But just this creativity and lack of discipline can become a brake of further progress and relevant discussion on this forum.

OMG!  For real Zephir?  Are you serious?

When self runners brake loose in the world, authority can kiss its ass goodbye.  Nobody
with an ounce of sense is going to listen to authority any more.  Authority is what has
screwed the world into what it is today.  Another 30 years of this and we'll be lucky to
ride a camel to the filthy water hole.

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Looks like Rant Rooms popping up on every corner........I heard this one is gonna serve free doughnut with Java?......can't get that kinda service at every Rant Room.  :P

Service?  Oh yeah.  I'm just get'n started.    :-*

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Who even asked this "moderator" to be one?

Close.  Better question:  Who was the dumb ass that approved it?

They on the same team?

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This is sad reality of the overunity progress at the Western world. 

Oxymoron -- the two concepts cannot be assimilated in the same context.



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Re: THE RANT ROOM
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2017, 03:07:07 AM »
And here again.  Edit the shit out of it Zephir.

Quick!  Hurry before someone notices.

ramset

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Re: THE RANT ROOM
« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2017, 03:36:22 AM »
Terms of service agreement [first paragraph]

Zephir broke this in the first sentence [and just got worse]

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