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Offline lancaIV

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« Reply #90 on: June 20, 2020, 02:37:02 PM »
Beside from the R&D OU-device :how to implement this into the housegrid-,network ?
DC,or AC,or pulsed DC ?
Doing an appliances list we see 24 hours stand-by systems ( permanent working : fridge/freezer ),partial used devices(mixer), with high numeric power demand ( resistive heating : 1500 W)
and very low power demand : LEDs !
During night the consume ( summer-time) decreasing to ≤ 100 Wh,during day-time up to  3000 Wp power and 2000Wh work demand !

The "generator" does not "think" and gives us not the "right place-right time-right solution",this is something that each of us for his own case ," single-couple-family" has to organize for him-self !
Variable loads demands over the day needs variable power devices !
High loads =total Wp in use parallel means higher investment,alternatively : use spread =serial by timer !


Overunity has ever the device nominal power limit :
from a nominal 1 KW net OU system/ generator 1 KW per hour is the maximum brut output,independent from the concept C.O.P. !
A 1 KW OU-system/generator  can never deliver the sufficient energy for a 1 KW in VA electric  motor !
(Attention by rotoverter with C.O.P≥ 1 propagation : how the developper overbridge this barrier !?With capacitor and stepping rpm up variable speed devices ? )

Without inrush voltage/current limiter for a 1 KW motor we need a 6 KWp OU-device,
without serial appliances use we are fast in the 10 KWp power demand range !

R&D is more than only OU-device research :

material production/exploration and market prices development
production process technology

material recycling possibility

International we are now in great solar/wind parcs projects in the 2 Euro-cents/KWh range(without storage)
to reach this without over-head costs  is by 1 KWp net output generator possible,
actually price calcuation +- 500 Euros , the start price target : 5 Euro-cents/KWh variable load demand satisfaction   !

Sufficient for :
Autonomous House,GB : 3 KWh per day = 1096 KWh per year + heat(wood)

www.oeko-energie.de : "intelligent" summer house-hold  consume 3 KWh = 1096 KWh per year + heat(solarthermic)

www.mtbest.net : 0,8 kWh electric consume per day = 292 KWh + heat (solarthermic)

When an one KW generator in 24 hours can deliver 24 KWh electric power this does not mean that we have to consume the possible max ! ::)

Being and staying eco-smart  ;)




www.batteryinnovation.org / www.windpowerengineering.org
Consortium of Battery Innovation : lead batteries with 4000 - 5000 charge cycles (DoD% ?)

Staying tuned in the global eugenical championship for excellence and up to : PERFECTION ( and low cost  ;) )


 

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« Reply #91 on: June 20, 2020, 03:29:46 PM »
Lanca   We swim in energy....surrounded by a world in perpetual motion
1kw>+ per square meter power coming from the sun.....
On planet Earth, Energy is meant to be like oxygen...water...sunshine ..and Gravity .. all Free  ...no fee no cost ..just use it.Wesley had told me  the power under our feet is not possible to measure or put a limit...beyond our imagining ...
We need to access this and keep this beautiful planet for the next generation and beyond...fix this while we still have a chance ...
Here a contribution.. just as an example...from member Jimboot
a Movie by Robert Murray Smith ...harvests electricity from Water [plain water]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGQHVc9z8yQ

Chet K...PS, patent link supplied By Jimboot...https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/63/ae/d6/8779071971a6f6/US4153757.pdf






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« Reply #92 on: June 20, 2020, 04:29:50 PM »
Hello Chet,there is no voltage given to this bimetallic thermoelectric element ,only microamperes( not milli -!) output !
Let us assume 12 V x 0,0005 A ( for 50 microamperes,    0,05 A= 50 milliamperes) :

for 1000 Watt in VA you need : 1000 VA /(12 V x 0,0005 A ) = 166,666 : one hundred sixty-six thousands ......
                                                              thermo-elements
10 cents ( underestimated calculation !) for each x 166,666 = 16,666 USD for 1 KW output !               

+ construction time : 166,666 x 1/2 minute(cutting,hammering,montage) "free-time"                             

                                   = only 1388 hours ~ 173 work-days a 8 hours

                                         Free and cheap energy ?
Has Jimboot a special commission contract with the braze and aluminium industry ? 8)


I expect that such " minerals in water" -batteries are cheaper to produce and in power density ratio higher than  these above thermo-elements :


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19931111&CC=DE&NR=4222678A1&KC=A1

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« Reply #93 on: June 20, 2020, 05:30:47 PM »
   Ramset:   I don't know if you are aware of it, but, Geofusion built up several of those water/fuel projects for his friends cars. That's what he was doing when he couldn't get his OU up to speed. However, there is nothing new or exciting about that, it still needs a power source, to produce a tiny bit of hydrogen gas. Will it run a car? NO. Unless you fill the fuel tank up with gasoline, also. And, it's still not OU, and not self running... Is it more efficient? Maybe.

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« Reply #94 on: June 20, 2020, 05:50:32 PM »
Nick...the Goal is really not HHO [maybe small part we shall see]I do love that Geo can turn a wrench...[familiar with ICE and similar]
Goal is water as fuel ...if we could run an engine on water[mostly]...
while it runs a generator ??
its all about the goals...I am told papps first patent needs looking at again.
Hot /cold and water [sealed and running ?
anyhoo ...here a video with perhaps some good thoughts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD8m5UrDWUY
trying to get a good translation ...just received this yesterday.. I have a few very good builders on board for helping [once we get the "plan"organized and goals...
would Luv to get our friend from OZ back into the mix [he's an "Ozsolarpower"  guy nownot using Tinman anymore...
or maybe some of these other projects here ...
so to be clear...I am certain Geo would definitely be interested in running on Water  maybe even Flash steam...or ??we shall see.

This has been floating around way to long...and we have plenty of fellows with good skills to experiment.[now maybe Geo too ??will try to open thread tomorrow.gotta touch base with Stephan .
Chet


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« Reply #94 on: June 20, 2020, 05:50:32 PM »
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« Reply #95 on: June 20, 2020, 07:52:57 PM »
Aether model.


Very interesting thread.
I always wonder is space empty or full?


What all great minds here think about it?


If the space is empty how the waves propagate through empty?


If it is full, then everything is easily explainable.
But then what is matter? Empty in full space?
Cracks in space?
Theory of strings supports this, but thats another story.
If the matter are cracks, tiny rotating pockets of empty surrounded by space,
what about Einsteins famous E = m * C2 ???


In that equation m presents matter surrounded with nothing.
If the space is full and matter are empty cracks, them m would be -m.


What does that means?
If we approach the speed of light matter will shrink, become infinite small,
can pass through any matter on its way and make interstellar travel very possible.


So, including aether as medium change things dramtically, does it?


Einstein never got Nobel for his famous equation, but for photons,
which are actually work of his wife.
When she dumped him, after that he never invented anything new.


Aether as medium is very, very interesting.


What do you think?

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« Reply #96 on: June 20, 2020, 08:38:06 PM »
   Ramset:   That video is a wasted effort, really. I can do more than that just using two different coins. One of copper (penny) and some other unknown white colored metal that the second coin is made from. A piece of paper between the coins, with some salt on it, and bingo, I can light an red led. Double that up and I can light a white led.
  What a waste of time... oh but, it was so much fun, for a couple of minutes, until I saw that there was hardly any current no matter how many of these things you daizy chain together. Just letting you know.
     Remember the crystal cells project thread? You know why it died?...yet I still have a case full of cement cells, and several aluminum/carbon cells that I had made some years ago, that still have one volt each. After all these years. But, why waste time on this stuff??? Unless you're bored.
   Karlo:  Have you ever read up on Tesla, if not, all your questions are answered there.
              Einstein was wrong, energy does not come from matter, matter comes from energy, instead.
   "Everything is Energy, and frequency". All that you can see, and all that you can't see. There is no such thing as "empty space".
Tesla called it the Cosmic Soup. Even what is invisible to us is not nothing, but, is something.
And matter can not go the speed of light. Nor can we as physical beings. No material object can go the speed of light. Light is not  physical, and therefore the difference. To go the speed of light, one would need to become light.
BTW: There is no "movement" in light. No such thing as the "speed of light". It does not move from point A to point B. That is the rate at which light polarizes, while no thing, nothing is actually moving.  I know many will not agree, that's ok. 
But, I won't go into that, at this time.
   The "Big Bang Theory" is also very wrong. Not supported by real proven science, as most everyone here knows. Except guys like Einstein, who never got off his butt to prove any of what he wrote, out of his faulty imagination. Unlike Tesla, which is not even taught or mentioned in school, while the false Big Bang theory, this is. Some people think that the world is flat, as well.May God help them, and us, to see beyond these lies. There is a hidden purpose for this madness.
And, no I am not religious.
   NickZ


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Offline v8karlo

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« Reply #97 on: June 20, 2020, 09:51:46 PM »
Nick,


I always saw you as good researcher, but now my opinion about you is even much higher then before.
You are a clever guy.


I did read much about Tesla work.
Actually he was born only 80km from the Zagreb where I was born.
Been there, in small city Smiljani, saw his house.
It is area called Lika. My wife is from Lika, not far from Smiljani.
Very proud people and they are very stubborn when it comes to defend their opinion.


Einstain also supported Aether theory in beginning, but later changed his mind under pressure of mainstream.


You are right. There is fundamental feequency of universe which stir up small particles giving them etherrnal life.
So, energy makes matter.
Stop the frequency of universe and all matter will just vanish.


Thank you for your very good answer!




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« Reply #98 on: June 20, 2020, 11:12:51 PM »
  Karlo:   Actually the Aether or "dark energy" is not made up of "particles", as we know them, nor is it particle physics, as the mainstream would like us to believe. That is where part of the confusion lies. I could go on and on. But, for respect, for those with different ideas, I won't.
  I am a South American Croat. Yes, so is Geofusion. I was born in Venezuela, as Geo was. No wonder we are so stubborn, and will not give in to false logic. If, you can understand that.

   My father (Zvonimir Zec) as well as his parents were from Zagreb, born and raised in the old Yugoslavia. He was a chemical engineer, and had worked for G.E., as a nuclear scientist, in the California nuclear plant in Vallecitos, Ca. Which is why I hate even the word nuclear, as something worse than death, itself. And is the totally wrong approach to providing for energy on this planet, nor anywhere else. 
   I was raised and educated in the US. In the Bay Area, Palo Alto, Silicone Valley, as an electronics assembler. Just to give you some insight, into my life.
  If I have been rude to you in the past, my apologies to you now.
   NickZ,   (Nicola Zec)  Yes, like the mountain in your country, the Zec Mountain. I have the same name as my grandfather Nichola Zec.
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« Reply #99 on: June 21, 2020, 12:02:24 AM »
Nick,


You did not offend me in any way.
Nicola is common Croatian name and Zec means rabbit on Croatian,
which is also common. It means speed, or someone with fast brain,
so I figure out long time ago that you must be from Croatia.


I did not know that for Geo, but, hey, now when I know, my deeply regards to Geo.


You see, when I asked that question, I was curious about answer,
but I was curious also about who will answer.


When you seek for intelligent people, you ask question which can not be found in Wikipedia, or anywhere on NET.
And the question must be deep enough to tackle only few intelligent people,
among numerous experts and brains here on forum.
Question which can be answered only by intelligence.


You answered with extremly well formulated answer.
And you were only one who dared to touch the subject.
Most people just run away from stuff like this.
But you did not!


So, it is my pleasure that I know you finally.


There are some things which I wanna share with you now.
I am little bit far from home for few days more, but will contact you when I return,
if you dont have anything against it, of course.




My deepest regards!








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« Reply #100 on: June 21, 2020, 12:42:41 AM »
    Karlow:
   And, it's very good to cross paths with you as well. Mucho gusto.   My thoughts and ideas don't originate from Tesla, but, do resonate and come from the same source
    I would love to go and see these old cultures, and it's people, and their profound ancient knowledge.     Bosnia has the biggest man made pyramid in the world, twice and big as the one in Giza. And it still "works". If we could know and remember, just how to turn it on full blast, once again. The original Free Energy Generator/reactor.
   Why Yugoslavia was the seat of two world wars. Not what we thought.
   Truth or Fiction?   https://youtu.be/IuHJz-xPopU
   If this video doesn't get you thinking...  well, it will.   NickZ

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« Reply #101 on: June 21, 2020, 02:58:01 AM »
EMJunkie has deleted a post from me which I made earlier today on this thread: https://overunity.com/18464/partnered-output-coils-builders-group-moderated/msg547069/topicseen/#new

I figured he would so I copied it. Here it is:
Quote
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   Input = 12V @ 0.5A = 6 Watts, Output = 17V @ 0.7A = ‭11.9‬Watts, ...


... It was just a 12V 300ma globe. Obviously over driving it at 17V.
...

Hi EMJunkie,

Globe spec is 12V, 300mA. Calculates to 40ohm.
Your test data are 17V and 0.7A. This indicates globe R = 24.3ohms.
Why the discrepancy?
Regards,
bi


I was nice and polite. He could have easily addressed the issue, but no, just deleted me. He has also delete my post from the other thread of the same title which doesn't indicate that it is moderated. Go figure.

Regards,
bi

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« Reply #102 on: June 21, 2020, 03:10:51 AM »
perhaps he does not realize you are a builder too [when intrigued ]
we have had persons here in the past who engaged or critiqued but would never build.[sometimes very good reason]
here I am certain if all info gets put into simple replication document
many more persons would build..after all it is remarkable claim.
I am trying to get info into a small PDF ...most don't need to be sold on such a simple aboveunity claim...just need a simple presentation [schematic , spec sheet all relevant info and expectations [expectations already noted "aboveunity"

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« Reply #103 on: June 21, 2020, 03:21:23 AM »
   Or perhaps, it's because you can't get blood from a stone. Good luck, with bypassing the plug, and getting to the nitty gritty.   Every one is entitled to their own way of thinking. I think that the rest of us can see where this is going, regardless. Yet, it doesn't look like any one is signing up for the few watt job, either. It don't pay enough...     Perhaps we should all learn from our lessons, from the Rick F. thread. Remember...
     If we focus too much on one small area, we could miss the bigger picture. A few watts, one way or the other, ain't going to matter, in the long run. But, let's see if we can cut to the chase. Or not.

   Good idea starting this thread, Ramset. I almost feel safe, here.
   Sorry to bore any one.
   NickZ
 

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« Reply #104 on: June 21, 2020, 03:32:37 AM »
I bet Mick Jagger bleeds !

 

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