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Author Topic: THE RANT ROOM  (Read 127347 times)

Offline AlienGrey

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« Reply #585 on: October 06, 2020, 09:21:17 PM »
I am not looking for anybody.
If someone find new tech, my job is to investigate and recreate device,
if it is possible, to see does it conflicts with existing patents or rights
of the party I represent.
My job stops with my report.
On the results of my investigation company decide what to do next,
and that part is out of my knowledge.

In all of my cases, inventors were payed or compensated on their terms.

The ones which invented already patented stuff, were not approached,
and if they sell eventualy device to someone,
they usually end up in court, resulting in huge fee and money debt for them.

If I am monster to you, it's ok.

Most of FE devices are in patents, separated into few,
so nobody can reproduce.
But in court, all few patents together are one complete device and inventor lose every time.
Compartmentalization of FE effects scattered into few or many patents.
But you are smart enough to understand all of this and how it works in real world.

Eventually it will surface. When?
Out of my "need to know".
My job is fairly simple and not connected to any crime acts.
Your industry 'corporate greed' feeds on others misery while the world slowly dies. from polution
I dispense and hate everything about America it's almost satanic in its behavior and your part of it.
Oh but then there is karmic justice so hope your kind in your next life, I hope your a worthless peasant.

But hey no offense intended, and have a nice day.
 :-* :-*

Offline Gear

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« Reply #586 on: October 06, 2020, 09:31:34 PM »
You feed of 'corporate greed' and others misery while the world slowly dies.
I dispense and hate everything about America it's almost satanic in its behavior and your part of it.
Oh but then there is karmic justice so hope your kind in your next life, I hope your a worthless peasant.

But hey no offense intended, and have a nice day.
 :-* :-*

To.you I am worthless because you dont have anything
and never will.
Just curious passenger, one of many.

No deal for you and no money!
Easier is to cry, isn't it?
Continue with your journey!

Offline NdaClouDzzz

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Re: THE RANT ROOM
« Reply #587 on: October 06, 2020, 09:54:11 PM »

Offline Gear

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« Reply #588 on: October 06, 2020, 09:59:14 PM »
Hi Gear.
So what is your proposal to the few inventors in here? Each one to his own? Sharing anonymously everything in public with the sickest detail for quick replications? Patenting their devices and making their own companies? What do you consider out of your experience as the proper way of doing things in this area?
Regards

Really I don't know.

Free Energy is sensitive matter.
Lots of multi trillion oil companies will lose their income,
and they will not be happy with that!

No one can fight multi trillion!

1. Have as many friends as you can who will know principle.
2. In NDA demand to work for them, which will keep you alive.
3. Give it for free outside mainstream media or forums.
4. Be naive and end up just as many before you.

I am sorry, but nobody can predict what will happen when trillions are in game.

Oil is your enemy, not me!

Offline NdaClouDzzz

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« Reply #589 on: October 06, 2020, 10:08:07 PM »

Offline partzman

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Re: THE RANT ROOM
« Reply #590 on: October 06, 2020, 10:18:19 PM »
https://youtu.be/OD3F7J2PeYU ;) 8) ;D

Wait-this sounds all too familiar!!!  Let's see, who else is into Bob Marley?  Why of course-Chris S.!

Pm

Offline NdaClouDzzz

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« Reply #591 on: October 06, 2020, 10:20:02 PM »
Do I sound like Chris s? I actually know how to speak English! And type English! 8)
EDIT: Wait, is emjunki chris s? I just read his post below and that sounds like pretty good english to me.
Anyway, I'm not this Chris s or emjunki. In fact, partnered output coils or bucking coils or split coils or whatever they are called, sound more like a free-energy enhancement, not an actual free-energy principle, and therefore from my perspective those coils shouldn't be the main focus of those trying to find a free-energy device. Of course, those types of coils could simply be a more advanced technique and not necessary for a free-energy device nor suited to the beginner; that is, someone who has not yet built a working free-energy device. My beginner focus is on electrostatics like Don Smith shows here: https://youtu.be/yLjt3y1_ceY?t=4011.
I know that Don shows some devices with these split coils, but as far as I can tell, they are only enhancements and/or advanced techniques and not the actual process for free-energy in his devices. But then, I too am a beginner.
Cheers.
« Last Edit: October 07, 2020, 05:43:51 AM by NdaClouDzzz »

Offline Gear

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« Reply #592 on: October 06, 2020, 10:31:48 PM »

It is not only the oil companies.
Japan invested trillions in hydrogen tech for their car industry.
They will lose too!

Should I continue with list of potentially pissed of parties?

There are huge investments accross the globe,
which will be destroyed with shoe box invention!

Does anyone knows how much is worth one huge electrical windmill?
How much money they will lose?

So, Alien Gray, your statement is stupid.
You should not look at me, but into real world for your childish answer!

You are not fighting me, but something much worse!

Regards!

Offline lancaIV

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« Reply #593 on: October 06, 2020, 11:03:02 PM »
Blablabla
Japanese M.I.T.I. and many companies invested in their hydrogen research,but not trillions,even not in Yen !
Daimler-Benz also did,then the company bought a minority quote from the canadian Ballard !

The worth or the costs from off-shore windpark units ? By ten years bookvalue amortization  : 0 €/$ !

There are many people who does not understand economy( macro versus micro) and are as worker surprised when their production place becomes closed !Often/mostly amortized = 0 €/$ bookvalue work places !

In the Western the fossil derivate industry is in devalorization, but this industry invested many billions in FE research and development since the first oil crisis 1973  !
espacenet advanced research : Esso(Exxon)/Shell/Chevron et cetera ,wind/solar/fuel cell /.......

Not only as ' greener' society " calm down placebo" !

Sincerely

Offline AlienGrey

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« Reply #594 on: October 06, 2020, 11:08:55 PM »
Gear, up set you did I, you must support your company practices they pay your pay queue !

Lets get this in perspective here this site is about harvesting zero point energy, you are about
 terminating that hope, and what more childish than name calling  ;D ;D
                        ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Have you been over to PAAR energy conservation yet

They are selling devices apparently.

May I wish them all the best!

Offline NdaClouDzzz

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Re: THE RANT ROOM
« Reply #595 on: October 06, 2020, 11:14:46 PM »
There are huge investments accross the globe,
which will be destroyed with shoe box invention!

Obsolescence Risk https://www.investopedia.com/terms/o/obsolescencerisk.asp

Offline EMJunkie

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Re: THE RANT ROOM
« Reply #596 on: October 07, 2020, 01:35:00 AM »
Gear, up set you did I, you must support your company practices they pay your pay queue !

Lets get this in perspective here this site is about harvesting zero point energy, you are about
 terminating that hope, and what more childish than name calling  ;D ;D
                        ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Have you been over to PAAR energy conservation yet

They are selling devices apparently.

May I wish them all the best!






I was reading an article today, the term: "Scientific Achievement" was used. Achievement is only possible under a set of very narrow conditions:


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the act of achieving something the achievement of an ambition.

 
a result gained by effort : accomplishment being honored for her academic achievements a major scientific achievement.

a great or heroic deed.

the quality and quantity of a student's work standardized tests to measure achievement.



The Art of Exploration without Bias! That's why we are So Far Ahead of You Here, AG is also way ahead of most of you here! Very simply, there has been Zero Scientific Achievement here, since Stefan opened this Forum, isn't that a real shame! All the so called experts, and several decades, and Nothing, Nada, Zilch!

Even after those before us: Floyd Sweet, Don Smith, Tariel Kapanadze, Akula, Ruslan and many hundreds more!

What could be put in place to make for Progress? What can be done to improve Productivity? What protocols could help the Community? Most importantly, why has this not ever been done?

Light Up The Darkness!

Best wishes, stay safe and well in these Dire Times,

   Chris

Offline onepower

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Re: THE RANT ROOM
« Reply #597 on: October 07, 2020, 01:52:53 AM »
Gear
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If someone find new tech, my job is to investigate and recreate device,
if it is possible, to see does it conflicts with existing patents or rights
of the party I represent.
My job stops with my report.
On the results of my investigation company decide what to do next,
and that part is out of my knowledge.

In all of my cases, inventors were payed or compensated on their terms.

The ones which invented already patented stuff, were not approached,
and if they sell eventualy device to someone,
they usually end up in court, resulting in huge fee and money debt for them.

If I am monster to you, it's ok.

No your not a monster, I didn't understand what you were trying to say. So your a re-inventor, it's cool.

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Most of FE devices are in patents, separated into few,
so nobody can reproduce.
But in court, all few patents together are one complete device and inventor lose every time.
Compartmentalization of FE effects scattered into few or many patents.
But you are smart enough to understand all of this and how it works in real world.

The trick of course, is finding prior art and I have seen very few patents I could not negate. So I would disagree that the inventor would lose in court and the corporations obviously have the most to lose. All I would have to do is dig up the prior art and negate there patents piece by piece at which point it becomes public domain. The real kicker is that a scientific discovery cannot be patented so it was always in the public domain. Thus, I could also challenge any free energy patent and win on those grounds. You see when they didn't disclose the exact process, a discovery, there patent became basically worthless.

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No one can fight multi trillion!
1. Have as many friends as you can who will know principle.
2. In NDA demand to work for them, which will keep you alive.
3. Give it for free outside mainstream media or forums.
4. Be naive and end up just as many before you.

You are correct and only a fool would try to fight global corporations. However as I implied, if any inventor/scientist gave the technology to mankind as a scientific discovery there is nothing anyone could do. It is not a patent nor is it patentable and once it's out there is no taking it back.

As well, your fear mongering doesn't hold water. Elon Musk is producing a major disruption to not only the fossil fuel vehicle sector but also space propulsion and battery technology. He's disrupting everything and he's still alive so this bogey man thing just doesn't fly in my opinion.

Regards

Offline Gear

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« Reply #598 on: October 07, 2020, 05:43:13 AM »
Gear
No your not a monster, I didn't understand what you were trying to say. So your a re-inventor, it's cool.

The trick of course, is finding prior art and I have seen very few patents I could not negate. So I would disagree that the inventor would lose in court and the corporations obviously have the most to lose. All I would have to do is dig up the prior art and negate there patents piece by piece at which point it becomes public domain. The real kicker is that a scientific discovery cannot be patented so it was always in the public domain. Thus, I could also challenge any free energy patent and win on those grounds. You see when they didn't disclose the exact process, a discovery, there patent became basically worthless.

You are correct and only a fool would try to fight global corporations. However as I implied, if any inventor/scientist gave the technology to mankind as a scientific discovery there is nothing anyone could do. It is not a patent nor is it patentable and once it's out there is no taking it back.

As well, your fear mongering doesn't hold water. Elon Musk is producing a major disruption to not only the fossil fuel vehicle sector but also space propulsion and battery technology. He's disrupting everything and he's still alive so this bogey man thing just doesn't fly in my opinion.

Regards

Sometimes it hurts to watch your mistakes!

Thank you onepower!
You have potential, try not to be linear.

Best regards!

Offline onepower

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Re: THE RANT ROOM
« Reply #599 on: October 07, 2020, 06:32:38 AM »
Gear
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Sometimes it hurts to watch your mistakes!
Thank you onpower!
You have potential, try not to be linear.

I used to do something similar to what your doing however it was a part time gig and I know many people doing the same. Some are chasing smoke and mirrors, some researching patents, some are sent to validate others claims and some doing research and experiments. I have done all of the above over the years and learned many things along the way.

In my opinion the patents are unenforceable because there is never full disclosure however that doesn't mean it couldn't be tied up in court for a decade. That is generally the corporate modus operandi so it's best not to go there.

Regards