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bistander · « **Reply #435 on:** August 20, 2020, 05:13:24 PM »

Quote from: overcurrent on August 20, 2020, 04:14:28 AM

onepower I must say I come here to get away from this crap but you bring this up every time you get a chance and you do ...

Suggestion:
Don't click on "RANT ROOM".
It is easy not to read.

Regards,
bi

onepower · « **Reply #436 on:** August 20, 2020, 06:11:25 PM »

overcurrent

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onepower I must say I come here to get away from this crap but you bring this up every time you get a chance and you do seem a bit obsessed or trump derangement syndrome has hit in Canada also.

I think of it this way... when a politician is known to be a psychopath, a compulsive liar and being blackmailed by the Russians to destroy our democracy does it matter whether there left or right wing?. As well, if trump does manage to turn the U.S. into a communist dictatorship like the Russians want him to do you honestly think Free Energy would ever be allowed?. In Russia, they kick down your door and put a bullet in your head just for talking about free energy, is this what you want?.

So no, I'm not obsessed with trump and the guy is just another loser with mental problems in my opinion. I am obsessed with FE and the freedoms I enjoy which are being threatened by trump and the Russians. In my opinion anyone empowering trump empowers the Russians and Communism which makes them a Closet Communist, if you will. Like a Communist, having similar beliefs but too weak to come out and say it.

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Since I have been reading things you posted there has never been one iota of technical language from you it is all ways political so if you want to follow the lefties into there new world order globalist crap of forced vaccines and electronic surveillance state go right ahead but shouldn't that be done at a political forum this doesn't seem the place to me there must be some lefty echo chamber forum where you can all agree and talk about your utopia with unicorns.

So you don't want my or others posts to be political yet you seem to have no problem posting this far right, populist nonsense do you?, lol. I mean you could have just said stick to FE please but you just had to throw in all that far right nonsense didn't you?. So let's be clear, your post was meant to be just as political as mine was. The difference between us is that at least I'm honest about it and don't try to obscure my intent.

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I have tried to stay away from this topic with you but this is all you seem to want to talk about and I had seen enough. Do you have anything technical to share I would be glad to listen but these posts are crap.

So to recap, you would like me to stop talking about a clear and present danger to our Freedoms, Free Energy and the FE community then share all my hard earned knowledge with you?. Then you go on to say you would be glad to listen, as if you were somehow entitled to my knowledge and actually doing me a favor by listening?, ... Wow.

Look, we as a Free Energy Community need to address the problems we face not pretend they don't exist. We are being gamed by the scientific community, politicians, governments, corporations, corporate foundations and most of society holding false beliefs. We are looking for the whole truth and this is not some cult where alternative facts or false beliefs should come into play.

I presented my case, the supposed facts which affect everyone here in a sarcastic way as I often do and if you have a problem with it then debate the facts. However saying we shouldn't talk about politics, then talking about them and then implying your somehow entitled to anything... is not the way.

Regards

onepower · « **Reply #437 on:** August 20, 2020, 06:49:16 PM »

bistander

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Suggestion:
Don't click on "RANT ROOM".
It is easy not to read.

Of course it is quite easy to stick our head in the sand and simply ignore everything we do not like or agree with. Most of mankind does this a majority of the time, more so concerning Free Energy. It hasn't turned out very well, in fact it has become a complete disaster in almost every respect.

As well the greatest scientists and inventors mankind has ever known were not afraid to debate anything with anyone nor think for themselves. The more intense and interesting the debate on any subject the more they liked it which is why they were so great.

This is not a cult, were here to learn unlike the picture below... so debate, learn.

Regards

overcurrent · « **Reply #438 on:** August 20, 2020, 07:04:59 PM »

onepower I have never asked you for anything nor do I want anything from you especially a political debate you have obviously made up your mind. You act like you are some kind of wizard holding the secret but I don't believe so nor do I care if you did hold any such secrets, you can go to your grave with them I don't care have a nice day.

bistander · « **Reply #439 on:** August 20, 2020, 09:52:40 PM »

Quote from: onepower on August 20, 2020, 06:49:16 PM

bistander
Of course it is quite easy to stick our head in the sand and simply ignore everything we do not like or agree with. Most of mankind does this a majority of the time, more so concerning Free Energy. It hasn't turned out very well, in fact it has become a complete disaster in almost every respect.
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Regards

It was not I complaining about your essay, just merely making a suggestion to someone who had. And you might be surprised at what a silent person on the sidelines can do when they decide to act. Yes, there are always bumps in the road, but I don't consider our current state of affairs a " complete disaster", as you put it. Things could be a lot worse.

A RANT ROOM is the perfect place to discuss Trump. If someone doesn't want to see that type of thing, don't click on it, or as you say, stick their head in the sand.

Regards,
bi

onepower · « **Reply #440 on:** August 20, 2020, 10:46:11 PM »

overcurrent
If you want to see a Wizard in action who seldom if ever contradicts themselves I suggest you watch this video...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hj9oB4zpHww
Science can answer moral questions | Sam Harris

Note that he never tells anyone what to think outright like many try to do only to question what we think and ask why. Mr. Harris also adds compelling arguments to try to justify his claims with respect to why we should question everything from different perspectives. My philosophy is really no different and I understand many people don't want anyone asking the hard questions because it makes them uncomfortable, but I'm going to ask them just the same.

Here is an interesting question along similar lines... why do you think so few people here understand or have free energy?.

Is it the science, the technology, the complexity, there perspective, there beliefs, there experience or lack of it, the facts or hearsay?. Is it the popular contempt for intellectualism, science and philosophy because some think it is contrary to there beliefs?. From personal experience, I found it was all of the above and the fact I can say this of myself may be the reason I understand FE while most never will. As Sam Harris points out, it is seldom if ever what we think or believe but the fact we have never sincerely questioned it or ourselves.

Change invokes change and if we cannot invoke change in ourselves nothing will change. So it's not for me to tell you to believe anything because it doesn't matter however I will say what I believe to be true and try to justify it. As I said before this isn't a cult, this is a Free Energy forum where we debate all the issues relating to free energy including politics relating to government interference in our goals. As I implied, if populism and alternative facts become the norm and this blatant hostility towards clean energy continues free energy is a pipe dream.

Regards

onepower · « **Reply #441 on:** August 20, 2020, 11:21:48 PM »

bistander

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It was not I complaining about your essay, just merely making a suggestion to someone who had. And you might be surprised at what a silent person on the sidelines can do when they decide to act. Yes, there are always bumps in the road, but I don't consider our current state of affairs a " complete disaster", as you put it. Things could be a lot worse.

A RANT ROOM is the perfect place to discuss Trump. If someone doesn't want to see that type of thing, don't click on it, or as you say, stick their head in the sand.

Sorry about the rant... I was howling at the moon, again, lol.

I just get frustrated that everything seems to be moving in the opposite direction and Russia, China and Iran are getting braver by the day now that they have little coordinated opposition. People talk of the supposedly socialist liberals, try dealing with a hard core russian or muslim and they would see what totalitarian socialism really looks like. Some Vegan driving a Volvo is the least of our worries.

Now North America is in shambles, our alliances up in smoke because we have no leadership and meanwhile these populist nut jobs want to declare war on there own countrymen. We cannot afford to lose this war on our common values or everything we know and cherish will be history. So ya, I'm going to speak up.

Regards

overcurrent · « **Reply #442 on:** August 21, 2020, 06:32:48 AM »

onepower you asked
"Here is an interesting question along similar lines... why do you think so few people here understand or have free energy?."

I believe human greed is the biggest reason as with tesla, there wasn't a cabal that shut him down it was one person with a lust for money. JP Morgan shut him down because he wasn't going to be able to make money on it and I believe the same would happen today if anyone tried going public with it and if it was allowed they would just put a tax on it to feed the greed it wouldn't be free. The only way free energy would be possible would be to give it away to as many as you could so it could get out before they shut it down but I don't know if that would even be possible the way all communications are monitored today. I myself do not really care if it does come out I like many of the old ways as my family has lived in this area long before electricity and I believe they lived a more natural life with many of my older relatives living to their nineties. I don't mind the idea of using a root cellar again or the wind mill or the gravity fed water or cooking on the wood stove then using the ashes in the garden for fertilizer so I would say I am a naturalist at heart. I believe earth changes are coming no matter what you or any government does, I know Edgar casey's earth changes predictions didn't come true when he said exactly but I do believe they are coming and I try to prepare myself the best I can in case I survive the first round but to debate politics with you here would not serve that purpose although I do have my opinions and I don't have my head in the sand just debating them here with you would serve no purpose as far as I can see so go ahead and debate whatever you want you are right bi stander, I shouldn't have clicked on the rant room but the board said something about scalar waves, it should say whatever is on your mind. Also I did watch your video and it did not change what I think so you and me may not be so far apart as to what we think we just go about it in very different ways. Now I will ask you a question what part do you think if any the Nefalim or fallen angels have to do with all of this are they or their descendants still here sewing discourse throughout humanity or is the book of enoch just a fairy tale to you.

onepower · « **Reply #443 on:** August 21, 2020, 06:30:18 PM »

overcurrent

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onepower you asked "Here is an interesting question along similar lines... why do you think so few people here understand or have free energy?."

I believe human greed is the biggest reason as with tesla, there wasn't a cabal that shut him down it was one person with a lust for money. JP Morgan shut him down because he wasn't going to be able to make money on it and I believe the same would happen today if anyone tried going public with it and if it was allowed they would just put a tax on it to feed the greed it wouldn't be free. The only way free energy would be possible would be to give it away to as many as you could so it could get out before they shut it down but I don't know if that would even be possible the way all communications are monitored today.

That may explain why FE has not gone mainstream and it may also explain why many FE companies I know of cannot find investors. However it doesn't explain why so many people here and elsewhere cannot understand FE.

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Also I did watch your video and it did not change what I think so you and me may not be so far apart as to what we think we just go about it in very different ways.

It wasn't supposed to change "what" you think but "how" you think. Think about that...

You see I studied and experimented with FE for over a decade and I was no closer to finding any answers. I scoured the forums and followed there links and did the experiments and it was generally a waste of time. In my mind I thought I was doing everything right and doing all I could however this wasn't the case. Sure I was going through the motions however I didn't learn a damn thing because I didn't know "how to learn", most people don't.

The fact remains that if we cannot change how we think, which in turn changes what we think we cannot learn anything. If we cannot learn anything were screwed and we can only know what we know and no more. So if anyone watched the video or read something or did something and it didn't change anything then unfortunately there not going anywhere.

What I took away from the video was that Mr. Harris has a brilliant mind and has the capacity to learn and look at things from a truly different perspective. So while many here decided they didn't like the topic or would go through the motions but not really listen I analysed how he thinks and rationalizes things. Once I learn how he thinks, how he breaks down problems, how he looks at things then I can learn to think like him. Not think "what" he thinks but "how" he thinks which gives me a completely different perspective to learn from.

Think of it this way, everything in the universe is know in and of itself. All is known because it exists and interacts with everything else on some level. However we cannot know it because we cannot even imagine it, we cannot imagine it because our perspective is singular and limited. However if we could embrace many other perspectives beyond our own limited perspective we could imagine many new things and learn from them as well.

This is how FE works, if you cannot even imagine how it works... you don't get it, literally.

Regards

overcurrent · « **Reply #444 on:** August 21, 2020, 10:25:47 PM »

I answered your question but you didn't answer mine, or if you are not familiar with the fallen angels how bout the ancient saemerian text that speaks of the brotherhood of the snake and the secrets they held and what they have evolved into today.

onepower · « **Reply #445 on:** August 21, 2020, 11:26:54 PM »

overcurrent

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I answered your question but you didn't answer mine, or if you are not familiar with the fallen angels how bout the ancient saemerian text that speaks of the brotherhood of the snake and the secrets they held and what they have evolved into today.

As an Atheist I don't believe in gods however I do believe other people may have seen what they thought were gods. For example many people would think I'm definitely a god 1000 years ago knowing what I know today. I know and could build things they could not even imagine back then but I'm just a guy. Which isn't all that impressive because I have shown many people what I know and have built today and they still have no idea how I can do it, lol.

Given that, I would speculate the fallen angels (beings who's craft descended from the sky) and the Sumerian gods were either a race not of Earth or a highly advanced ancient race of Earth. They say based on our progress in the last 200 years, 1000 years from now nobody here would be able to recognize us. We will have integrated advanced technology into our bodies on the nano scale as an integral part of us. When technology becomes biology woven into the fabric of who and what we are at that time. So yes we will be gods in our own right relative to the primitive technology we have today, in our future.

I'm not an expert on ancient Sumeria and only have a few hundred hours of research into the culture and technology. Apparently they have integrated the technology into there language/imagery/hieroglyphics producing an image/conceptual based way of conveying intent or meaning. Which makes perfect sense as our primitive language or way of communicating is always ambiguous as both of us already know. You thought I implied something but I didn't and I thought you implied something but you didn't and even with our words it all get's screwed up somehow. However what if we could convey our meaning and intent in such a way that it was universal/conceptual between us?.

Think of it this way, when I kiss my wife do you think she wonders what I'm doing or what I mean?. Well no, the action conveys the meaning, it is mutual and understood by both parties, thus words or equations are not required and somehow primitive or lacking in this respect. This is how the ancient cultures operated, on an advanced level, which is why it makes no sense to most people.

The trick here is understanding we are primitive based on the facts we already know of ourselves, self reflection and forethought. Based on this we could imagine how we could improve at which point ... we have a choice to make.

Regards

onepower · « **Reply #446 on:** August 22, 2020, 02:45:08 AM »

All this talk of free energy and technology and taking the high road is all well enough however it matters little if we still have basically illiterate semi-primates like donny trump, jair bolsonaro and vlad putin in power. I mean, these people are barely smart enough to talk in complete sentences and sound like god damn six year old's.

I think a picture is worth a thousand words and all we have to do it look below and read trumps completely deranged tweets to understand how really screwed up this guy is. I mean look at him, spewing hate and racism and division and people think this retard is a leader?. I wouldn't trust him to change the tire on my truck because the guys a train wreck in every sense of the word.

So really that's where were at which explains why everyone I know who knew anything about free energy basically went into hibernation. Did anyone notice that all the really creative people making any real progress simply vanished?. Did anyone notice that all the real debate about free energy is now non-existent?. You want to return to the dark ages and see just how bad it can get... keep this bullshit up and you will see.

That's my rant for today...

onepower · « **Reply #447 on:** August 23, 2020, 04:37:30 AM »

Thinking about all the bullshit so many of the populists are trying to peddle today and "the litmus test".

Anyone remember an old member who called himself Milehigh from years ago?.

Man we used to get into it however there was no disputing his reasoning with respect to Free Energy which is timeless. I have a close to photographic memory about really good arguments and science/technology so I will always remember him. I remember he posted a picture of his awesome late model, blue BMW, behind a white stucco house with palm tree's in the background and I suspected he was from California or Florida.

So while we disagreed on most issues quite passionately we had a common ground in science, engineering and the facts we can prove as being true... his Litmus test.

As it were I'm an Engineer, well versed in Industrial Water Treatment and use PH strips daily at work and to test my hot tub. The thing about a litmus test is that it gives us a true indication of where were at in reality. No bullshit, no I wish it were this way or hope it were true and it must be proven otherwise were just wasting our time and things are going to go sideways on us.

This is the problem I see with all this bs out there concerning trump and Putin. They consistently fail even the most basic litmus test and it's easy if not preschool to prove there misrepresenting the facts. They say one thing then it's proven to be false, then they double down and keep repeating the lie which obviously doesn't make it more true. It's just more and more bs stacked on top of each other trying to convince us of something we know not to be true by the sheer magnitude of the lies.

I get it, however if my hot tub fails the litmus test and I believe it, eventually it is going to become stagnant and a cesspool, so why continue?. It eludes me why so many would buy into the bullshit when they should already know how this ends. It's not rocket science and no intelligent person should buy into what is obviously complete nonsense... so how did we get here?.

Regards

ramset · « **Reply #448 on:** August 24, 2020, 06:17:05 PM »

WellI been away for a week or so ...more isolated than I am use to ...helped Move an acquaintances newly acquired and untested [my reason for being onboard] small yacht thru some very unfriendly water ways between NYC and Maine besides all the small emergency's brought on by his very unprepared trip...I got a reboot on things I have been trying to forget ... highlighted by places like Marha's vinyard and Cape Cod etc ...the huge disparity in our world...persons who measure fuel mileage on their "pleasure" boats in the 10's of gallons per mile....[makes me ill to consider the carbon [and "other"] pumped into the air.

OnePoweryou have written plenty here...I am still in a bit of shock from my trip...But I would love the opportunity to comment more on your posts in the coming days....[after reading yours again]
and add my perspective on your choice to withhold your FE discovery at this time ...[as others have also chosen to do here.

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respectfully
Chet K

onepower · « **Reply #449 on:** August 26, 2020, 03:34:53 AM »

Chet

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But I would love the opportunity to comment more on your posts in the coming days....[after reading yours again]
and add my perspective on your choice to withhold your FE discovery at this time ...[as others have also chosen to do here.

Free Energy?, with the state of the world and the degeneration of society due to this populist fascism bs I make no claim to ever discovering anything with respect to free energy. I probably had one too many beer and you mistook what I meant or it may be my trump derangement syndrome affecting my memory. I just can't seem to recall anything concerning free energy however this could change in the future.

You know I'm not unreasonable however if people want to degenerate and lower themselves to this level then I say when in Rome do as the Romans.

Regards

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