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« Reply #345 on: July 07, 2020, 04:15:21 PM »
Hello seychelles ( and Komoren,Andamannen,....... ::) )
your comparison is -from my standpoint- not certain :
your magnifying glas/lense,spectrum,focus does not intensify absolut the radiation energy content but concentrates it to a focus area/point !

When you study " concentrated photo-voltaic" concepts : 1 sun concentrated as "20/200/2000 suns"-factor


Factor 1000 example http://media.treehugger.com/assets/images/2012/09/solenspheredesign.jpg.492x0_q85_crop-smart.jpg


                               https://www.pres.org.pk/2012/new-concentrator-technology-reduces-pv-surface-area-by-factor-of-1000/








When you think it is certain why reach Owen Barker by his panels/magnets device a double output voltage ?


https://overunity.com/16681/24365-solar-cell-output-theory-and-experiments/   Reply #6

The highly conductive magnets such as the aforementioned wrapped magnets may actually be performing four different functions:
 (1) the movement of photons towards a given solar cell surface;
(2) the bending of electrons which might otherwise miss a solar cell surface towards the actual solar cell itself;
 (3) the movement of unabsorbed photons passing through a given solar cell towards the surface of the next adjacent solar cell;
(4) the conduction of current down the stack of solar cells so as to increase electrical output in series.



We do not anymore talk about Magnesia/-it-magnetism,in AlNiCo and Samarium and Neodymium we use radioactive decay forces,Betavoltaic battery type !



What we can accept that this magnet energy is given by a small magnet active surface area

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« Reply #346 on: July 07, 2020, 04:59:18 PM »
#344 : Hello Chet ,


the in the  https://lockhaven.edu/~dsimanek/museum/themes/whynot.htm article 110% efficiency engine is to understand as "hypothesis",not as existent scheme device !


You asked some posts before about anomaly :  https://phys.org/news/2012-03-efficiency.html

In their experiments, the researchers reduced the LED’s input power to just 30 picowatts and measured an output of 69 picowatts of light - an efficiency of 230%. The physical mechanisms worked the same as with any LED: when excited by the applied voltage, electrons and holes have a certain probability of generating photons.



but by given quantum energy efficiencies up to average 200%


https://books.google.pt/books?id=0H4bWIpaXb0C&pg=PA348&lpg=PA348&dq=m.i.t.+200%25+conversion+efficiency&source=bl&ots=yLNW6ymeT4&sig=ACfU3U1rPbtNkJ4TaYvRP1oh4uBo1a5Qvw&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjJxdyUsrvqAhUGJhoKHV7_CioQ6AEwDHoECAwQAQ#v=onepage&q=m.i.t.%20200%25%20conversion%20efficiency&f=false


https://e-catworld.com/2020/06/30/surprisingly-strong-light-and-heat-from-nanogaps-between-plasmodic-electrodes-rice-university-study/


https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.nanolett.0c02121


Our measurements over a large ensemble of devices demonstrate a giant (∼104) material-dependent photon yield (emitted photons per incident electrons). This dramatic effect cannot be explained only by the radiative field enhancement due to localized plasmons in the tunneling gap.

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« Reply #347 on: July 07, 2020, 05:34:24 PM »
"partnered output coils"(effect)-devices

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=30&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19940519&CC=DE&NR=4238587A1&KC=A1




https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=27&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19960215&CC=DE&NR=4428026A1&KC=A1


http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=4428026&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en


Fig. 1 shows the basic circuit diagram of a DC / AC converter. The capacitor 11 charges via the changeover switch 12 and the primary winding A of the transformer 13. The self-induction generated in winding A is stored in winding A via diode 14. When the changeover switch 12 is switched over, the capacitor 11 discharges via the winding B of the transformer 13. The self-induction generated in winding B is stored in winding B via diode 15, etc. Since the windings A and B of the transformer 13 are connected in push-pull, an alternating magnetic field is generated in the transformer core, which generates a corresponding electrical power in the winding C of the transformer 13.

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« Reply #348 on: July 07, 2020, 05:44:22 PM »
#344 : Hello Chet ,


the in the article given 110% efficiency engine is to understand as "hypothesis",not as existent scheme device !


You asked some posts before about anomaly :  https://phys.org/news/2012-03-efficiency.html

In their experiments, the researchers reduced the LED’s input power to just 30 picowatts and measured an output of 69 picowatts of light - an efficiency of 230%. The physical mechanisms worked the same as with any LED: when excited by the applied voltage, electrons and holes have a certain probability of generating photons.



but by given quantum energy efficiencies up to average 200%
...

Hi guys,
I've seen this before. You can read in the provided link:

" took advantage of small amounts of excess heat to emit more power than consumed"

So it is not proof of OU.
Regards,
bi

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« Reply #349 on: July 07, 2020, 06:14:31 PM »
Hi guys,
I've seen this before. You can read in the provided link:

" took advantage of small amounts of excess heat to emit more power than consumed"

So it is not proof of OU.
Regards,
bi


bistander,
from the contexte


 " The researchers didn’t try to increase this probability, as some previous research has focused on, but instead took advantage of small amounts of excess heat to emit more power than consumed. This heat arises from vibrations in the device’s atomic lattice, which occur due to entropy. "


you not include that " This heat arises from vibrations in the device’s atomic lattice, which occur due to entropy. "


so the total output related total input release " over unity effectivity" !


It is internal heat generation,not from the ambient/outer environment !

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« Reply #350 on: July 07, 2020, 06:43:51 PM »
Lanca
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In their experiments, the researchers reduced the LED’s input power to just 30 picowatts and measured an output of 69 picowatts of light - an efficiency of 230%. The physical mechanisms worked the same as with any LED: when excited by the applied voltage, electrons and holes have a certain probability of generating photons.
end quote.
Thank you lanca for picowatt anomaly.
Here Aboveunity Elites have 6 watt input [6,000.000.000.000 picowatts] at COP 1.8 ...they have real meat to eat ....[maybe Aboveunity Elites can Share [Open source] how ?? for those less fortunate who can't pay and not as "privileged"??  ...Cop 1.7 claim was made here 5 years ago  by Aboveunity Elite ...and still no one here has shared open source  replication or tutorial for less privileged ?
And now we see that a post from  V8carlo of funds required to have access at aboveunity forum ?[so not going to be open sourced without ??
If experiments are needed to find anomaly or method to pinpoint a gain in some geospecific location [recent comments in PM have indicated an issue replicating anomaly globally ...then this should have been stated from beginning
I/WE NEED HELP !!instead of so much finger pointing and destructive fire starting by Aboveunity Elites  in this forum...

You need experimenters...to hunt ??SAY SO....making stories of 40 years no success...NOBODY IN HUMAN HISTORY HAS SHARED AUTONOMOUS [no battery etc]
STAND ALONE LOOPED DEVICE..... OPEN SOURCE ....not even "1" watt...[anomalous heretofore unknown source .

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« Reply #351 on: July 07, 2020, 07:23:01 PM »
"I do need more satisfaction ! I will try,I will .... "




Chet,you rolling stone,at first you get "quantum state efficiencies" : > 1 : not enough !  :o 8) ;) .

( Meine Omi,Lehrerin,leider verstorben,wuerde meinen : Stoffel ! ::)  u.m.o. = unidentified meaning object  ;D   Old school  )

"Efficiencies > 1" -cascaded- let reach unlimited "efficiencies numbers " !


What do you know about  aboveunity their set real input energy and output energy ratio,when there is not given V-average/V-max
                                                                                                                                               and A-average/A-max ?!


                                       https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_mean_square








                                A capacitive charge pump circuit with parametric generator function : that is all !

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FFerdinand_Braun
                               
On the transmission side, Braun was also able to help the radio technology make huge advances:
Guglielmo Marconi had largely managed his transmitter empirically , so that Braun could improve it by looking at the physical background.


 While the oscillating and antenna circuits were originally one, Braun separated these two parts.


Now there was a primary circuit, consisting of a capacitor and a spark gap, and an antenna circuit inductively coupled to it ,
 which increased the transmitted energy in this system.

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« Reply #352 on: July 07, 2020, 07:55:56 PM »

bistander,
from the contexte


 " The researchers didn’t try to increase this probability, as some previous research has focused on, but instead took advantage of small amounts of excess heat to emit more power than consumed. This heat arises from vibrations in the device’s atomic lattice, which occur due to entropy. "


you not include that " This heat arises from vibrations in the device’s atomic lattice, which occur due to entropy. "


so the total output related total input release " over unity effectivity" !


It is internal heat generation,not from the ambient/outer environment !

And in the context, 135°C was required. All I did was read the paper last year, but sure seems like a lot of excess thermal energy around the experiment. And I do not recall the experimenters or authors commenting they had ruled out heat from the environment, in fact, my old memory tells me they said just the opposite. Right now a picowatt doesn't motivate me to lookup and reread that article.
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« Reply #353 on: July 07, 2020, 07:59:40 PM »
Lanca

a rolling Snowball effect ?[gain mechanism ?]
Well others are looking at ....light?
And what may be available?
Note : Image below shared with permission of presenter [original topic starter]


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« Reply #354 on: July 07, 2020, 08:01:23 PM »
#352 :


bistander,picowatts are not much !  Question here : work area in sqmm


1 sqm = 10000 sqcm = 1000000 sqmm




                                                    thermo or phono-photovoltaic panel

            one quadrillion cycles per second x 1,55 billions cnt x 3600 sec. = 1 hour conversion work per sqm


                                                                             cnt=     carbon nano tubes



                            by 45% conversion efficiency we get photon energy transformed :


                 600 Watt  AC electricity by theoretical  "1 sun" = 1333 Watt/sqm solar radiation konstante


                                           600W/sqm = 0,06 W/sqcm = 0,0006 W/sqmm
                     

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« Reply #355 on: July 08, 2020, 11:03:56 AM »
Lanca
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In their experiments, the researchers reduced the LED’s input power to just 30 picowatts and measured an output of 69 picowatts of light - an efficiency of 230%. The physical mechanisms worked the same as with any LED: when excited by the applied voltage, electrons and holes have a certain probability of generating photons.
end quote.
Thank you lanca for picowatt anomaly.
Here Aboveunity Elites have 6 watt input [6,000.000.000.000 picowatts] at COP 1.8 ...they have real meat to eat ....[maybe Aboveunity Elites can Share [Open source] how ?? for those less fortunate who can't pay and not as "privileged"??  ...Cop 1.7 claim was made here 5 years ago  by Aboveunity Elite ...and still no one here has shared open source  replication or tutorial for less privileged ?
And now we see that a post from  V8carlo of funds required to have access at aboveunity forum ?[so not going to be open sourced without ??
If experiments are needed to find anomaly or method to pinpoint a gain in some geospecific location [recent comments in PM have indicated an issue replicating anomaly globally ...then this should have been stated from beginning
I/WE NEED HELP !!instead of so much finger pointing and destructive fire starting by Aboveunity Elites  in this forum...

You need experimenters...to hunt ??SAY SO....making stories of 40 years no success...NOBODY IN HUMAN HISTORY HAS SHARED AUTONOMOUS [no battery etc]
STAND ALONE LOOPED DEVICE..... OPEN SOURCE ....not even "1" watt...[anomalous heretofore unknown source .


Chet,

Is OUR open?

We did share more than some PROOF to You, but the 2 left hands is ........

Becomes time Peter his eye blinds are falling OFF!

Get real!

Regards, Johan

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« Reply #356 on: July 08, 2020, 11:56:34 AM »
Yes Johan, Grumage did run his hit and miss engine as shared there on 50% water with some soap.[.Li ].would not stay running for long ..

and recently we have plans to open a water fuel topic to experiment here a bit further... and as you have mentioned a plasma and hot and cold electricity ,I assume Hot is with current and cold mostly voltage ? [is that correct ?] ...
much work has been done with poor results ...trying to understand what is wrong ...running on pure water is goal [tiny bit fuel ?...Tinman did say last year he had seen this happen [all water] but a few who tried [myself included] could not get results ...recently speaking with Nelson here he also mentioned some experience he could bring to topic [some salt water car he had seen plus experiments years back] he is very busy also at the moment
trying to sort his life and work.[still getting equipment for experimenting too]

hopefully we can figure this out  [plasma / water spray nozzle proximity to manifold/combustion chamber  ? ...and as mentioned to you ...open source the work to the smallest detail for all to have and share.
who are those people in Picture ?
BTW Peter [owner overunityresearch forum] works full time job in UK... sometimes 16 hour days..and away from home week at a time he is EE there not really engine guy [we do have plenty of those]
respectfully and with appreciation Chet K














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« Reply #357 on: July 08, 2020, 08:39:30 PM »
                                                                 errare humanum est


 What is "duty cycle" ?


https://www.newport.com/medias/sys_master/images/images/h8f/h7a/8797052108830/Average-and-Peak-Power-Calculation-Tech-Note-1.pdf


https://www.google.com/search?q=power+and+duty+cycle&oq=power+and+duty+cycle&aqs=chrome..69i57.8865j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8




https://fbadhusha.weebly.com/uploads/3/8/9/5/3895546/ele-pulse-power.pdf


https://www.gsjournal.net/Science-Journals/Communications-Mechanics%20/%20Electrodynamics/Download/1180




much explanation and description !


                                         aboveunity use in their set the duty cycle ,10% on and 90% off , 1/10 "duty ratio"


http://www.bticcs.com/pub.htm       http://www.bticcs.com/pub/CCSE.pdf


 page 7


Some claim, that charging with high amplitude and a short duration current, as with pulse charging, averts the memory effect and increases the battery life span. In reality the waveform of the charge current has much less effect on the battery charging than the overcharge has.


 The power loss is I2 x R. Accordingly a pulse/stop relation 1:3 is resulting in a nine times higher power loss.


https://www.vishay.com/resistors/pulse-energy-calculator/


http://www.calctool.org/CALC/phys/optics/pulsed_source


PWM: Pulse Width Modulation: What is it and how does it work?
https://www.analogictips.com/pulse-width-modulation-pwm/


https://www.dnatechindia.com/DC-Motor.html


Pulse Width Speed Control


The rotational speed of a DC motor is directly proportional to the mean (average) value of its supply voltage and the higher this value, up to maximum allowed motor volts, the faster the motor will rotate.
 In other words more voltage more speed.
By varying the ratio between the "ON" (tON) time and the "OFF" (tOFF) time durations, called the "Duty Ratio", "Mark/Space Ratio" or "Duty Cycle", the average value of the motor voltage and hence its rotational speed can be varied.


For simple unipolar drives the duty ratio β is given as:and the mean DC output voltage fed to the motor is given as: Vmean = β x Vsupply. Then by varying the width of pulse a, the motor voltage and hence the power applied to the motor can be controlled and this type of control is called Pulse Width Modulation or PWM.


Another way of controlling the rotational speed of the motor is to vary the frequency (and hence the time period of the controlling voltage) while the "ON" and "OFF" duty ratio times are kept constant. This type of control is called Pulse Frequency Modulation or PFM.


 With pulse frequency modulation, the motor voltage is controlled by applying pulses of variable frequency for example, at a low frequency or with very few pulses the average voltage applied to the motor is low, and therefore the motor speed is slow.
 At a higher frequency or with many pulses, the average motor terminal voltage is increased and the motor speed will also increase.
Then, Transistors can be used to control the amount of power applied to a DC motor with the mode of operation being either "Linear" (varying motor voltage), "Pulse Width Modulation" (varying the width of the pulse) or "Pulse Frequency Modulation" (varying the frequency of the pulse).


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« Reply #358 on: July 09, 2020, 11:24:37 AM »
Yes Johan, Grumage did run his hit and miss engine as shared there on 50% water with some soap.[.Li ].would not stay running for long ..

and recently we have plans to open a water fuel topic to experiment here a bit further... and as you have mentioned a plasma and hot and cold electricity ,I assume Hot is with current and cold mostly voltage ? [is that correct ?] ...
much work has been done with poor results ...trying to understand what is wrong ...running on pure water is goal [tiny bit fuel ?...Tinman did say last year he had seen this happen [all water] but a few who tried [myself included] could not get results ...recently speaking with Nelson here he also mentioned some experience he could bring to topic [some salt water car he had seen plus experiments years back] he is very busy also at the moment
trying to sort his life and work.[still getting equipment for experimenting too]

hopefully we can figure this out  [plasma / water spray nozzle proximity to manifold/combustion chamber  ? ...and as mentioned to you ...open source the work to the smallest detail for all to have and share.
who are those people in Picture ?
BTW Peter [owner overunityresearch forum] works full time job in UK... sometimes 16 hour days..and away from home week at a time he is EE there not really engine guy [we do have plenty of those]
respectfully and with appreciation Chet K


Hi Chet,

That Plasma was 8 years ago, when you where flirting with Money and Man-Power from OUR!

So maybe to focus on what is cheaper and to understand more easy:

Engine with 100Kw Shaft Power, is making/producing a ≥300Kw of Non-Used Heat over Exhaust & Radiator, and so .......?

Hit&Miss, you have to keep it HOT, told you take a Air-, Water-Cooled engine and raise UP the Working Temp, why only 80-85C?

Kind regards, J


P.s. Why dropping Pic's so Big / Wide, you!??!

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« Reply #359 on: July 09, 2020, 12:02:26 PM »
Johan,the engine beside mechanical energy output "the waste energy"  not used ?
And what is "Co-generation" ?
The great power plants reach only by heat and mechano-electric conversion 58/60% efficiency !
This are home co-generation numbers , german inventor Ralf Walge in the 90' from the last century !Min. 40% electric + 20% heat

Similar :     special interest here : waste heat recuperator www.proepowersystems.com/PROEHOME.HTM

But why so complicated if the "gun engine process" let reach 90% efficiency ?Fuel also -partial-water or hydrogen !


Sincerely
OCWL

 

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