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Offline lancaIV

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« Reply #300 on: July 02, 2020, 12:18:03 PM »
Chet,in search for cheap energy : what is cheap ?
EE-history :     1 Volt ~ 1 Daniell cell                     100 Volt ~ 100 Daniell cells battery

With transmission losts compensation : a.110-115 Volt as grid tension electricity delivery : DC grid

AC grid positive tension from source to negative tension to source : 110-115 Volt x 2

When we pay 25 Eurocents for 1 KWh AC positive/negative tension eleectricity this means in DC 1 KWh equivalence :

                                             50 Eurocents per real KWh  netgrid price ! 100% duty cyce !

I take the mtbest.net 0,8 KWh ultra low electricity private household electricity consume number ( + solar heat) and the billions 2 US$ per capita/day habitants worldwide,per household 2 habitants minimum :

293 KWh per year x 0,5 Euro / ( 365 x 2 x 2 US$) ~ 10% electric energy costs from income



                                                                      World data/statistics

10% is for private household a common income percentage,review 100 years electricity delivery and private household earnings/salaries




There are three "real world" options :

a ultra high efficient electric appliances

b. ultra low -on demand- electricity generation
c. both : a + b

50 Eurocents/KWh ~ 10% household income
25 Eurocents/KWh ~   5%


So we get as economical possible "IDEAL" :

10 Eurocents/KWh ~   2% household income by "ultra intelligent household"



                                         INTERNATIONAL

                                 TARGET and CHALLENGE
   10 - all inclusive- calculation costs ( service,friction parts refurbishment,recycle,........) Eurocents/ real KWh

                       
Who wishes then the 3 KWh per day private household consume ( book "Autonomous House,GB) or www.oeko-energie.de household example shall be ready to spend 8% from his total household income for electric energy  !
When we talk about fairness and justice we should ever have an up to 100 years commercial review about prices,consume,expenses : life profile and intelligence win/lost over the decades  !

FREE ENERGY and AUTONOMOUS LIVING had - has- will have its price :

also in a 100% REPRAP industry world = zero human worker !

Sincerely
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« Reply #301 on: July 02, 2020, 12:35:27 PM »
Chet,in search for cheap energy : what is cheap ?


I know you are asking Chet, but can I express my opinion on your question?


Yes, solar become cheap and other similar products.

You are 100% right on that.

What you can not include is mobility.

There is no price for mobile FE device.

Can you move 200m2 of solar panels around, where ever you go? How much it will cost you to move them?

So, the worse FE device will be cheaper than cheapest solar panels,

because,

you can carry it to the top of mount Everest and heat your home there without any effort,

carry it in your backpack.

We are talking about 2 properties of cheap energy source.

Price and mobility.

And mobility is priceless!


Now you calculate the real price of FE device vs cheap solar panel.

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« Reply #302 on: July 02, 2020, 01:01:52 PM »
WhatsIT, in "autonomous" is mobility included !
Real world demonstration model for mobility :

www.wohnwagon.at    www.mobilchalet.de     www.habitaflex.com

Beside electricity on demand also in view : water on demand ! Greywater-to-whitewater


Probably also : household waste to energy ( organic biocomposter with heatelectric converter )
Indepenent if conventional Free Energy Conversion ( solar,wind,heat) or quantum-physical E=hf converter :
the commercial 10 Eurocents/real KWh on demand electric generator will be the " opener" !
Before estatal subsidaries !

The hurdle : the consumer needs to educate himself to become economic :

                                            Physical and technical limits

         generator Wattpeak output / consumer serial or parallel appliances use

As example : an   800 Watt nominal electric toaster
                             1600 Wp the inrush voltage and current phase power demand
                                  ( what the generator or in-/converter has to over-bridge)

but for the 5 minutes work-process only calculated : as 800 W x  (60 min/5 min) = 67 Wh consumer listed !
     
1600 Wp to 67 Wh : this is the "on demand" and in storage difference

The mtbest 0,8 KWh does not explain the Wp " autonomous  household grid"  power max demand  !
By linear calculation,the toaster value as example : 800 Wh/67Wh x 800 W toaster nominal =
                        9552 Wp nominal and 19100 Wip : if all appliances in parallel use
« Last Edit: July 02, 2020, 07:50:31 PM by lancaIV »

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« Reply #303 on: July 02, 2020, 01:14:05 PM »
WhatsIT, in "autonomous" is mobility inclded !
Beside electricity on demand also in view : water on demsnd !
Probably also : household waste to energy ( organic biocomposter with heatelectric convrrter )
Indepenent if conventional Free Energy Conversion ( solar,wind,heat) or quantum-physical E=hf converter :
the commercial 10 Eurocents/real KWh on demand electric generator will be the " opener" !
Before estatal subsidaries !

The hurdle : the consumer needs to educate himself to become economic :

                                            Physical and technical limits

         generator Wattpeak output / consumer serial or parallel appliances use

As example : an   800 Watt nominal electric toaster
                             1600 Wp the inrush voltage and current phase power demand
                                  ( what the generator or in-/converter has to over-bridge)

but for the 5 minutes work-process only as 800 Wx (60 min/5 min) = 67 Wh consumer listed !
1600 Wp to 67 Wh : this is the "on demand" and in storage difference

Don't get me wrong, this is not contest in intelligence.

If you have FE device, size of shoe box, mobile,

you can extract water from air, heat up, cool down, anything you imagine, have lights 24hrs a day for producing crops without real sunlight.

All the needs of person are covered, but if you have mobile, small, source of unlimited energy.

You can drink water in center of Sahara, all you need is energy to extract it from air.


You are not wrong, possibilities are unlimited.



Mobile, small, FE device you pay only once (maintenance over the years, if you know how to repair it, are almost none).

And have benefits while you are alive.


So, who cares for the price, you pay only once for the whole life.

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« Reply #304 on: July 02, 2020, 01:27:52 PM »
 ;) , I do not get you wrong !
But there is industrial a great difference between " virtual reality : dreaming" and " hard ware "-development for day-by-day use !
And you can not "stretch" a given nominal energy/electricity output :
with a 1 KW generator you get up to 24 KWh per day ,but ever with the 1 KW limit !

Clearly,you can storage surplus energy in accumulators ( hot medium,chemical,flywheel,capacitor,magnet battery)

But all this means extra-costs/weight/risc ,.... !
Your own behaviour related material/energy consume commands the final € or US$/KWh price !

Your little box : Harold Goldbaum his invention with dis-/advantages

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« Reply #305 on: July 02, 2020, 01:30:04 PM »
And you don't have to be economic,

FE device will produce every day the same,

who cares how much energy you spent last day?

Tomorrow will have same amount again.


Is it really any economy in question? Only in domain of energy.
We are not talking about others areas of economy!



So, what makes the price really?

Price itself or mobility feature of cheap energy source?

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« Reply #306 on: July 02, 2020, 01:33:14 PM »
;) , I do not get you wrong !
But there is industrial a great difference between " virtual reality : dreaming" and " hard ware "-development for day-by-day use !
And you can not "stretch" a given nominal energy/electricity output :
with a 1 KW generator you get up to 24 KWh per day ,but ever with the 1 KW limit !

Clearly,you can storage surplus energy in accumulators ( hot medium,chemical,flywheel,capacitor,magnet battery)

But all this means extra-costs/weight/risc ,.... !
Your own behaviour related material/energy consume commands the final € or US$/KWh price !

Your little box : Harold Goldbaum his invention with dis-/advantages


We can do this all day.

Why don't you ask Kapanadze on those matters?


I have opinion, yours different. I quit from further discussion. You win!

My intention was not to change your mind. You are great interlocutor.

I just expressed my opinion.


About amount of energy.

If you have 1kW small portable device, size of shoe box, and you know how to made it.

You can parallel as many as you wanna for given power, it is not big deal to do that.

I don't see the point in your words.

And you don't need accumulators at all. Why? What for?

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« Reply #307 on: July 02, 2020, 01:53:37 PM »
Price/cost/value :

the receiving and transforming of unbonded energy to specific useable energetic kind for example heat,mechanical force,electrical force in DC or AC or pulsed DC need specific tools and/or machines with conventional-"abundant"  or special rare mineral elements !
Let us take an example : aluminium

industrial production costs : 1 Euro per Kilogram

But there are conditions( endconsumer/fob factory,gross selling )  :

99% purity ,99,5% purity grade aluminium

 foil or coil : thick or thin,  or barr  :

10 Euros up to 30 Euros per Kg



So speaking about metals/materials  there is a great price-spread/amplitude !
If you invest in a machine you get a book-value :
let us assume 10 years life-time/function ( drop-away society device)

Economical this becomes in 10 years amortized + capital tax :
So if I invest in a 1000 Euros Free Energy or OU-generator with 10 years lifetime and 1 KWh electricity delivery per hour this means :
1000 Euros x 0,1 = 100 Euros per year linear amortization + 2,5 % low capital tax = 125 Euros per year

One year has 8766 hours ergo 8766 KWh per year electricity delivery

125 Euros/8766 KWh = each generated KWh costs 1,426 Eurocents = ≤ 2 Cents/KWh

But can I use this 8766 KWh output per year  with 1 KW max per hour ? 1/2,1/3,1/4 ,1/10 the potential  ?

Instead 10 years 20 or 30 years amortization ( like solarcells investments !?)

WhatIT,in economy nothing is lost - over the short time-  linear amortization operates with up to 80 years timeline !


How will you start the electrical ignition start process ?With hand curbe or with battery/capacitor ?
« Last Edit: July 02, 2020, 05:35:32 PM by lancaIV »

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« Reply #308 on: July 02, 2020, 02:00:25 PM »
Price/cost/value :

the receiving and transforming of unbonded energy to specific useable energetic kind for example heat,mechanical force,electrical force in DC or AC or pulsed DC need specific tools and/or machines with conventional-"abundant"  or special rare mineral elements !
Let us take an example : aluminium

industrial production costs : 1 Euro per Kilogram

But there are conditions( endconsumer/fob factory,gross selling )  :
99% purity ,99,5% purity ,foil or coil or barr  : 10 Euros up to 30 Euros per Kg

So speaking abou5 metals there is a great price-spread/amplitude !
If you invest in a machine you get a book-value :
let us assume 10 years life-time/function ( drop-away society device)

Economical this becomes in 10 years amortized + capital tax :
So if I invest in a 1000 Euros Free Energy or OU-generator with 10 years lifetime and 1 KWh electricity delivery per hour this means :
1000 Euros x 0,1 = 100 Euros per year linear amortization + 2,5 % low capital tax = 125 Euros per year

One year has 8766 hours ergo 8766 KWh per year electricity delivery

125 Euros/8766 KWh = each generated KWh costs 1,426 Eurocents

But can I use this 8766 KWh output per year  with 1 KW max per hour ? 1/2,1/3,1/4 ?

Instead 10 years 20 or 30 years amortization ( like solarcells investments !?)

WhatIT,in economy nothing is lost - over the short time-  linear amortization operates with up to 80 years timeline !


Lanca, I just love you because I can not understand you!

Your mind is unique, and that's what drives me to talk to you.

Thanks!

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« Reply #309 on: July 02, 2020, 02:10:10 PM »
Lanca, a few dollars worth of components and unlimited output..
power anywhere on the planet... regardless it is day or night..deepest ocean tallest mountain.. no storage of any kind required nor attachment to any power source .
"yes" would clean our waste... clean the air ... stop deforestation, bring energy to places which never had it [do to cost ]..give people the opportunity to go to places never before inhabitable ,change deserts into Eden ...no reason to migrate from Barren areas or drought ...power to scrub our atmosphere ...save our oceans...[even chill our polar regions ...manage sea level ...grow crops indoors.. anywhere on planet [vertical hydroponics]
and even take this to other planets and beyond...on and on
not by tomorrow...but maybe next week.
and here we have issues with asking questions and gloating and apparently big Ego [bigger than all above] ??
where is the teacher ??
one real human teacher!! [man or woman [girl] ["Chris" laughing and making fun or girls now too???]] with open source FE will change the world...
and Yes Lanca [below] we can remove the burden to Nature and our planet no chopping burning etc etc
using the power from our Star [Powering the dynamo in our planet]...CLEAN FREE ENERGY UNLIMITED POWER BEYOND OUR ABILITY TO ever USE it....  out destiny [the way it should be...




 

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« Reply #310 on: July 02, 2020, 02:12:32 PM »
And you don't have to be economic,

FE device will produce every day the same,

who cares how much energy you spent last day?

Tomorrow will have same amount again.


Is it really any economy in question? Only in domain of energy.
We are not talking about others areas of economy!



So, what makes the price really?

Price itself or mobility feature of cheap energy source?
What are you costing the Nature, your estate,your family ? Do you know it ?

The price : to become served and paying this "a-/social "taxation" all inclusive"-package ,included warranty

 or DIY : the detailed plan/scheme, the material,the tools,the time investment,the skills

              the riscs of damage and health or life lost ( this all under estatal laws and orders conditioning)

How many analphabets ,how many ( old)  people without technical skills and riscs concern ?
Shall "altrustic" -over-confessional- skilled  pathfinder-groups realize these DIY-kits ready to use,costless,and deliver these to this special groups ?

#306 : yeah,you are right : instead only one 1 KW generator investment you can invest in 2,3,...10 or 100 x 1 KW generator "battery/bank/array" or in a 2,3,....10 or 100 KW generator !
It is all fine to talk what is " deo-rhetorically"  possible,especially in a world where in G20 estates 1/3 from the private households has no savings to spent !

My name is not "Santa Clause" and my behaviour is also not as same !

Your shoe-box geometrical :14 x 8 x 5 inches or 9176 cubic-cm (less than 1/100 cbm)
Question : how to get a 0,109 W/cbcm power density  generator

    From volume to mass for comparison :

When one Siemens 13 KW/Kg high density motor is coupled with a 13 KW/Kg SIEMENS  high density generator this rotoverter as transformer has  a 6,5 KW/Kg ( C.O.P. ≤ 1)  power/mass density : rpm ?

Shoe box internal process velocity ?

                                      50 Hz/60 Hz                   ~ 3000/3600 RPM
                                      500 Hz/600 Hz          ~ 30000/36000 RPM
                                      5000 Hz/6000 Hz ~ 300000/360000 RPM

Probably some understand the TPU heat problem !

Arc welding and fusing,EDM  technology : material use longetivity ?
 
Or is your "shoebox generator" charge and discharge independent ,WhatIsIT ?      then it is not em-dynamical
« Last Edit: July 02, 2020, 05:25:13 PM by lancaIV »

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« Reply #311 on: July 02, 2020, 02:51:05 PM »



Hahahaha just like a bunch of spoiled girls all complaining: "I want it..."  ::)


All desperados! Got nothing, will never achieve anything. Hahaha...

In time, you will hear from other people, I replicated Chris's work and I have a self running machine... Just yesterday we had another success. And this will really get under your skin, like nothing else! I promise you this: Partnered Output Coils wont go away!

You people are the darkness! Your amigdala's have been hijacked!

Best wishes, stay safe and well in these dire times,
   Chris Sykes




Hahahaha just like a bunch of spoiled girls all complaining: "I want it..."  ::)


All desperados! Got nothing, will never achieve anything. Hahaha...

In time, you will hear from other people, I replicated Chris's work and I have a self running machine... Just yesterday we had another success. And this will really get under your skin, like nothing else! I promise you this: Partnered Output Coils wont go away!

You people are the darkness! Your amigdala's have been hijacked!

Best wishes, stay safe and well in these dire times,
   Chris Sykes

Oh, Chris, you choose to quote wrong person again, Nick.

I've been asked not to flame anything, but it hurts my feelings so much that you always attack people I care about.
I can manage you with only my left hand but been warned politely not to do so.
You see Chris, from first time I saw your true intentions, you served purpose here.
I told about it to some members and we agree to let you rampage,you served well.
Now it is time for you to come back, and you must be aware that you were used.
For what, you will see.
You planned, but you were part of plan.

You did good up till this point.

I was commanding officer for 5 years to WhatIsIt, which shaped us like brothers.
I was also one who pulled him into this FE stuff.

He is not quite person for this, but OK.
I am from Zagreb, he is from small town, some 20km from Zagreb.
We drink beer often together.
My ability is to see through people,he is the brain.
So we made something for you from the first moment you come here and pulled that silly stuff with investor posting on your thread,investor who is member for a long time, but is no investor at all.
You were transparent like glass, and clear what you want!

Now we need you to know that you played well, so the next part can roll.

You think you smart?

I counted on it.

Please, leave the Nick out of it, because I like him! It wont play well for you.

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« Reply #312 on: July 02, 2020, 04:09:57 PM »
I cared for my people, I always did.

Number 8 is number how much time i did not care for my life and save a soul.
Only one , 6 months after the war put the shootgun in his mouth and he is not with us any more.
In Croatia we use two barrel shootgun, so you can picture how was it looks like.
He could not stand what he went through.


So, seven is true number.

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« Reply #313 on: July 02, 2020, 07:12:26 PM »
Chris,

I am sorry we used you, but ToolOfCortex was weak and was poor candidate.
So, the brain waited for someone more eager of fame and publicity.
It happens it was you Chris, no offense.
We needed someone.
You played your part and set things in motion, without knowing that.

Thank you, still needed your rude behavior and insulting to make things better.

Thank you so much for helping.

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« Reply #314 on: July 02, 2020, 07:19:20 PM »
Now it is time to play your second part.
Now, when you know you served your purpose, we need you again.
It wont be pleasant , but is necessary.

 

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