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Offline NickZ

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« Reply #165 on: June 26, 2020, 11:08:52 PM »
  All well and good, if you assume that mass creates energy. Which it can do of course.And we don't realise, that mass was created from energy.   The chicken, or the egg.   No energy no mass.
If you only see one side of the story. Might as well believe in your big bang theory.
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« Reply #166 on: June 26, 2020, 11:25:55 PM »
  All well and good, if you assume that mass creates energy. Which it can do of course.And we don't realise, that mass was created from energy.   The chicken, or the egg.   No energy no mass.
If you only see one side of the story. Might as well believe in your big bang theory.
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I think you should rethink this, make a bit more effort to link the Mass Energy Equivalence concepts. What you're saying is not correct and true, essentially.

Best wishes, stay safe and well in these dire times,
   Chris Sykes

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« Reply #167 on: June 26, 2020, 11:27:41 PM »
#164 : "rest energy" and not "rest mass" !

About the use from Newtonian laws there is a disput by kanarev and his new dynamics related "  Kanarev law" .
Interesting his argumentation and as demonstration object  :  the Linevich-inertia transmission engine


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Offline EMJunkie

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« Reply #168 on: June 26, 2020, 11:41:31 PM »
That electrons are not particles in the sense that a chip of ice is a
particle of the block from which it was chipped, is... well....  elementary. 

Smile.

One can have an idea and find that future events are predictable by use
of that idea.

The more an idea is of a macro world event (Newtonian) then also, the more
there is predictability of results.

One can have a non moving electron in theory only. 

One can have electrons, the (Newtonian) relative motion (in a parallel vector)
of which is zero.

That kind of motionlessness is possible.
   i.e.
Move a wire coil past a magnet and the electrons in the coil are in motion relative
to the magnet and a voltage develops in the coil.

Move the magnet along with wire coil and the in the same direction and no voltage
develops.
................
An electron exerts a force around itself, which is termed as magnetic. That force is
not uniform in all directions around the electron.
That force is di-polar (N S).

This force is described as being a product of a kind of motion of the electro
(as if the electron were spinning upon an axis).  This can be problematic, given that
conventional description of the electron gives it, a diameter / volume / so on, as zero.
Hence quantized values.
..................
An electron exerts a force around itself, which is termed as electric (negative charge). 
A given two electrons will repel by this force.
Unlike the magnetic force surrounding an electron, the electric force distributes
uniformly in all directions around the electron (unless it is affected by an external force). 
That electric force decreases with distance, as the inverse of the square of the distance.
......
An electron within an atom has an orbiting motion around the nucleus of that atom.
That motion gives rise to a magnetic force which is related to but also distinctive from
the force arising due to the other two kind of motion (describe above).  It also gives rise to magnetic force.
.......

The mass of an object can be determined by applying a force of known value to that
object and  measuring the change in the object's speed.

Similarly, mas can be determined by observing the change in direction of motion of an
object in response to an applied force.

Electrons behave as if / demonstrate that they have mass !

In reference to the "rest mass" of an electron. 
Does that rest mass arise due to its spin ? 
Is an electron itself, a kind of standing wave ?
If so, a wave within what medium ?
Is that wave a vortex / closed ended and helical ?

What ever....  quantised or other wize, use the description that is best applied to
your approach experimentally and then use the other !

                      Smile
                         Again
                              Floor




Nice post Floor! A lot of sensible info in there!

Best wishes, stay safe and well in these dire times,
   Chris Sykes

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« Reply #169 on: June 26, 2020, 11:51:44 PM »
  EMJ: Just keep believing that all you want. I am not trying to get energy from matter. Remember. Maybe you are.
Did all the matter just explde into being by itself, from nothing in one big bang?  I look for the cause of causes. Or does your OU device still burns matter as it's source, as well?

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« Reply #170 on: June 26, 2020, 11:55:41 PM »



I think you should rethink this, make a bit more effort to link the Mass Energy Equivalence concepts. What you're saying is not correct and true, essentially.

Best wishes, stay safe and well in these dire times,
   Chris Sykes
If Nick is wrong, can you answer what is giving particles eternal life?
I think that you should rethink about what you read in Wikipedia.
At least Nick is using his brain.

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« Reply #171 on: June 26, 2020, 11:58:06 PM »
  All well and good, if you assume that mass creates energy. Which it can do of course.And we don't realise, that mass was created from energy.   The chicken, or the egg.   No energy no mass.
If you only see one side of the story. Might as well believe in your big bang theory.
.
Nick, by genom makeup you are closer to Tesla, you are Croatian,
while EMJunkie is still closer to monkey.
You realize that?

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Offline EMJunkie

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« Reply #172 on: June 26, 2020, 11:58:46 PM »
If Nick is wrong, can you answer what is giving particles eternal life?
I think that you should rethink about what you read in Wikipedia.
At least Nick is using his brain.




Another wanting to have a "Pissing Competition", what's wrong with you? Always trying to out do everyone. Do your home work, I gave you the link! As if you know anything about Tesla - What part of Kinetic Energy do you not understand? Do you even know the Quote I am referring to?

No wonder you, here, are so far behind! Too many Dummies stuck in the Cage!

Best wishes, stay safe and well in these dire times,
   Chris Sykes

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« Reply #173 on: June 27, 2020, 12:03:36 AM »



Another wanting to have a "Pissing Competition", what's wrong with you? Always trying to out do everyone. Do your home work, I gave you the link! As if you know anything about Tesla - What part of Kinetic Energy do you not understand? Do you even know the Quote I am referring to?

No wonder you, here are so far behind! Too many Dummies stuck in the Cage!

Best wishes, stay safe and well in these dire times,
   Chris Sykes

And you are master genius and from you everyone must learn?
What is wrong with you?

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« Reply #174 on: June 27, 2020, 12:05:55 AM »
   I just pissed on my self, laughing so had.
Thanks Karlo, for the support. You may just be about the only one that gets it.   NickZ

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« Reply #175 on: June 27, 2020, 12:08:34 AM »



Another wanting to have a "Pissing Competition", what's wrong with you? Always trying to out do everyone. Do your home work, I gave you the link! As if you know anything about Tesla - What part of Kinetic Energy do you not understand? Do you even know the Quote I am referring to?

No wonder you, here, are so far behind! Too many Dummies stuck in the Cage!

Best wishes, stay safe and well in these dire times,
   Chris Sykes
You did not answer!

What gives particles eternal life?

Will you avoid question twice?

Prove your advanced mind.

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« Reply #176 on: June 27, 2020, 12:10:03 AM »
And you are master genius and from you everyone must learn?
What is wrong with you?




Cupcake, youre gonna have to smarten up if you want to be Free, to evolve, because your evolution truly does depend on you using the only thing that cant be controlled.

Use it or loose it sweetheart!

Best wishes, stay safe and well in these dire times,
   Chris Sykes

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« Reply #177 on: June 27, 2020, 12:12:09 AM »
   I just pissed on my self, laughing so had.
Thanks Karlo, for the support. You may just be about the only one that gets it.   NickZ

I am Croatian, proud to carry Tesla genes!

Offline EMJunkie

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« Reply #178 on: June 27, 2020, 12:12:52 AM »
You did not answer!

What gives particles eternal life?

Will you avoid question twice?

Prove your advanced mind.




How about you answer your Non-Sense questions! If you see so much value in being the biggest fish in the fish farm!

Particles are not eternal! All particles pop in and out of existence all the time. Know about the 720 do we? But I don't expect you to know this! Oh, people like you give me a Nut Ache!

Best wishes, stay safe and well in these dire times,
   Chris Sykes

Offline v8karlo

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« Reply #179 on: June 27, 2020, 12:16:04 AM »



Cupcake, youre gonna have to smarten up if you want to be Free, to evolve, because your evolution truly does depend on you using the only thing that cant be controlled.

Use it or loose it sweetheart!

Best wishes, stay safe and well in these dire times,
   Chris Sykes

You avoid to answer for the third time.

What gives particles eternal life?

Or you can not because of that monkey genes you carry in your blood?

Will you avoid answer for the fourth time?

I am happy that I am behind you, because you stink so badly,
this way at least I don't have to smell that.

 

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