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Offline NickZ

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« Reply #150 on: June 26, 2020, 04:46:24 AM »
   I don't feel threatened, just insulted. I know that I should just shake it off, but, I guess that is my weaknesses.
   It's too bad none of them will help you out. Those hundreds. You are a one man band here, with nothing to back your claims.       BTW: You did help, now I remember why I left your thread. Not to be insulted once again. I'm glad to see that you "got it".

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« Reply #151 on: June 26, 2020, 04:52:33 AM »
EMJunkie posted a copy of this:
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Thinking Logically is a very important aspect of everyday life! As was pointed out, you need to think in Units of Force and what Force works for you and what Force works against you!


Example:

In a Transformer, totally Symmetrical in its operation, we see Force, or Energy, the same things at the end of the day, are Balanced, Symmetrically. Input Force is opposed by Output Force! Symmetrical!

What does this mean?

In a basic Transformer, we have X Units of Energy being supplied over Time. The Output is equivalent to the Input minus Losses, very simple and Pre-Schoolers can follow this! This means, as a function of the Symmetry in the Transformer, Input to Output Symmetry, the Transformer will ALWAYS be below Unity! It can never ever go Above Unity! Symmetrical Energy Exchanges minus Losses = Below Unity!

It is logical, and is evident, that if we want the Transformer to go Above Unity, then we must introduce Asymmetry, another Force, or another Source of Energy must Enter the Transformer System, and this Extra Force, is required to have a Magnitude in a very Specific Direction!

The M.M.F, in a Transformer is considered Force, its Energy, at the end of the day, and this M.M.F must have Direction to Assist your Input. This means, Force considered as 1 Unit for simplicity equals: 1 + -1 + 1 = 1

NOTE: Simpletons will be removed from the conversation if they interject, do your home work before you show yourself up to be a fool!

In a Symmetrical System, this equation is: 1 + -1 = 0 In other words, all the Energy is used up and no force is left over!

By thinking Logically, and engineering a System as I have shown for a decade nearly, you will be able to build Above unity Machines. Success comes from Understanding, Failure is a result of Not Understanding. Keep it simple, make sure you understand the most simple phenomena! This is super simple, you wont believe how simple this is once you gain this understanding!

Best wishes, stay safe and well in these dire times,
   Chris Sykes
On his other thread where he moderates me off. So I copied and pasted here to ask a question.

Re-quoting from him:
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The M.M.F, in a Transformer is considered Force, its Energy, at the end of the day, and this M.M.F must have Direction to Assist your Input. This means, Force considered as 1 Unit for simplicity equals: 1 + -1 + 1 = 1

Doesn't this contradict the common practice of summing the mmf around the magnetic circuit to zero? As explained nicely on the attached wiki article. EMJunkie could address this here or on the other thread. I would like to understand this apparent discrepancy.
Regards,
bi

From:
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Magnetomotive force (MMF)   
Main article: magnetomotive force
Similar to the way that electromotive force (EMF) drives a current of electrical charge in electrical circuits, magnetomotive force (MMF) 'drives' magnetic flux through magnetic circuits. The term 'magnetomotive force', though, is a misnomer since it is not a force nor is anything moving. It is perhaps better to call it simply MMF. In analogy to the definition of EMF,

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If we apply the analogy to Kirchhoff's voltage law (for magnetic circuits). States that the algebraic sum of the rises and drops of the mmf around a closed loop of a magnetic circuit is equal to zero; that is, the sum of the rises in mmf equals the sum of the drops in mmf around a closed loop
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« Reply #152 on: June 26, 2020, 05:24:29 AM »
   "not a force, nor anything moving." 
    That's something to think about. I like how that sounds, and what it means.
    Thanks.

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« Reply #153 on: June 26, 2020, 05:39:35 AM »



It is amazing how much you sheeple talk about me in this and other threads!

I am flattered!

Even Brain Dead people are starting to learn something of Value! Even if 99.89% of their background knowledge is wrong!

Best wishes, stay safe and well in these dire times,
   Chris Sykes

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« Reply #154 on: June 26, 2020, 06:24:26 AM »
EMJunkie posted a copy of this:
Re: THE RANT ROOM
« Reply #147 on: Today at 01:20:53 AM »
Followed by this:
Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #8936 on: Today at 02:07:11 AM »On his other thread where he moderates me off. So I copied and pasted here to ask a question.

Re-quoting from him:
Doesn't this contradict the common practice of summing the mmf around the magnetic circuit to zero? As explained nicely on the attached wiki article. EMJunkie could address this here or on the other thread. I would like to understand this apparent discrepancy.
Regards,
bi

From:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_circuit
See attachment.
from:

UNIVERSITY OF BABYLON BASIC OF ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING LECTURE NOTES




Ya godda be kidding dont ya.... and your'e wondering why I delete your posts?



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Offline EMJunkie

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« Reply #155 on: June 26, 2020, 06:44:26 AM »
   "not a force, nor anything moving." 
    That's something to think about. I like how that sounds, and what it means.
    Thanks.




FM.M.F = NI or 2 W / Φ See: HERE

Whats moving? Well Current is currently defined as 6.24 x 1018 Electrons per second past point P1 = One Ampere. That's: 6240000000000000000 Electrons past point P1 in One Second = 1 Amp! One Ampere = 5.68425534144E-12 Kg's.

63.55.g of Copper, has: 2,798,686.00 Amperes,  if we strip out all the Electrons in One Second.

If I = 0 then FM.M.F = 0.

You guys are so far behind it is truly not funny! Time to smarten up Sheeples!

Best wishes, stay safe and well in these dire times,
   Chris Sykes

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« Reply #156 on: June 26, 2020, 07:57:11 AM »



FM.M.F = NI or 2 W / Φ See: HERE

Whats moving? Well Current is currently defined as 6.24 x 1018 Electrons per second past point P1 = One Ampere. That's: 6240000000000000000 Electrons past point P1 in One Second = 1 Amp! One Ampere = 5.68425534144E-12 Kg's.

63.55.g of Copper, has: 2,798,686.00 Amperes,  if we strip out all the Electrons in One Second.

If I = 0 then FM.M.F = 0.

You guys are so far behind it is truly not funny! Time to smarten up Sheeples!

Best wishes, stay safe and well in these dire times,
   Chris Sykes

Hi EMJunkie,
The context was the magnetic circuit. There are portions of the flux path having no coil where there is mmf. What's moving there?

And please explain this "One Ampere = 5.68425534144E-12 Kg's."

Thanks,
bi

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« Reply #157 on: June 26, 2020, 10:39:45 AM »
Hi EMJunkie,
The context was the magnetic circuit. There are portions of the flux path having no coil where there is mmf. What's moving there?

And please explain this "One Ampere = 5.68425534144E-12 Kg's."

Thanks,
bi





Using Mathematics and Science:


            double OneAmpere = 6.24 * Math.Pow(10, 18);
            double ElectronMass = 9.10938356 * Math.Pow(10, -31);
            double OneAmpereMass = OneAmpere * ElectronMass;

            KGofOneAmpere.Text = OneAmpereMass.ToString("0." + new string('#', 339)) + " Kg's";
            = "0.00000000000568425534144 Kg's"



Amazing what you can calculate when one wants to learn something of value!


Best wishes, stay safe and well in these dire times,
   Chris Sykes

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« Reply #158 on: June 26, 2020, 04:20:18 PM »




Using Mathematics and Science:


            double OneAmpere = 6.24 * Math.Pow(10, 18);
            double ElectronMass = 9.10938356 * Math.Pow(10, -31);
            double OneAmpereMass = OneAmpere * ElectronMass;

            KGofOneAmpere.Text = OneAmpereMass.ToString("0." + new string('#', 339)) + " Kg's";
            = "0.00000000000568425534144 Kg's"



Amazing what you can calculate when one wants to learn something of value!


Best wishes, stay safe and well in these dire times,
   Chris Sykes

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/kgs

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Thanks, I guess. I've never seen Kg's used before.
How would the mass of that many electrons enter into the magnetomotive force which exist over a section of core or magnetic path outside of an excited coil?
And back to my original question, why do you think the sum  mmf of the 3 coils on the core in your experiment isn't near zero (equal to the mmf drop due to the flux in the core)? Isn't that analogous to wiring 3 batteries in closed series circuit and expecting the sum of the emf around the loop to be non zero?
Thanks,
bi

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« Reply #159 on: June 26, 2020, 05:12:32 PM »
  Mass of electrons? What science is that?
  Some one has mistaken electrons with "mass". As electrons have no mass. They are not particles, either.  Perhaps that idea comes  from the Big Bang theory guys.
 Neither is the Aether composed of particles, as we know them. It is also mass less, similar to light.
   Nor does light move, at all.   So, it was good to hear about magnetic flux, also being mass less, and does not move.
   "not a force, nor does it move".
  I love the way that my magnetic induction circuit works, without giving out any shocks, at all, yet it can light bulbs, etz...
   It's not electrons that enter into the device, it's Aether, which the capacitors are then used to separate into positive and negative charges.  That is how I understand it. Sorry if it does not agree with current theory. As current theory, does not know how to build free energy, OU, nor self running devices. And probably never will.
   NickZ

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« Reply #160 on: June 26, 2020, 05:33:43 PM »
bistander,in german language it is common to write Kg for Kilogramm,only in the english language where this expression is at the beginning small written you will find : kg and normally , indicating plural "Kg"-s or "kg"-s

NickZ : u or amu or Dalton or Kg/kg

This are the several terms for electrons their mass ! DEFINED MASS OF ELECTRONS !


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« Reply #161 on: June 26, 2020, 05:49:41 PM »
  Mass of electrons? What science is that?
  Some one has mistaken electrons with "mass". As electrons have no mass.

Hello Nick,

electron mass = 9.10938356 × 10^-31 kilograms
From Wikipedia:
"The invariant mass of an electron is approximately 9.109×10^−31 kilograms, or 5.489×10−4 atomic mass units.
On the basis of Einstein's principle of mass–energy equivalence, this mass corresponds to a rest energy of 0.511 MeV."



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« Reply #162 on: June 26, 2020, 06:20:13 PM »
   Guys:   I am aware of the current text book explanations, and is why I say what I said. And expected your answers. But, even if only one person gets where I'm coming from, I will feel like I've done something positive and useful, and instrumental to how free energy devices may work. But, of course, You can believe what you want. I totally believe in what Tesla has said, made patents about, and shown working, instead, of Einstein's theories. And, Tesla goes on to mention about the "Cosmic Soup", the Aether, and the harvesting of ambient energy, therefrom. As he would also not agree with current theories, even at this time. Einstein's theories are well studied in school, while Tesla's ideas are not, at all. 
   Do you believe in the Big Bang, as well.  Or,  only just in a part of "science".     NickZ   
   

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« Reply #163 on: June 26, 2020, 10:28:37 PM »
Hello Nick,

electron mass = 9.10938356 × 10^-31 kilograms
From Wikipedia:
"The invariant mass of an electron is approximately 9.109×10^−31 kilograms, or 5.489×10−4 atomic mass units.
On the basis of Einstein's principle of mass–energy equivalence, this mass corresponds to a rest energy of 0.511 MeV."



Nice to see you Void! Yes standard Science, all Particles that have Charge, therefore Magnetic Moment, have a Mass.

Question is, does the Copper Coil actually loose that Mass?

Best wishes, stay safe and well in these dire times,
    Chris Sykes

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« Reply #164 on: June 26, 2020, 10:34:02 PM »
That electrons are not particles in the sense that a chip of ice is a
particle of the block from which it was chipped, is... well....  elementary. 

Smile.

One can have an idea and find that future events are predictable by use
of that idea.

The more an idea is of a macro world event (Newtonian) then also, the more
there is predictability of results.

One can have a non moving electron in theory only. 

One can have electrons, the (Newtonian) relative motion (in a parallel vector)
of which is zero.

That kind of motionlessness is possible.
   i.e.
Move a wire coil past a magnet and the electrons in the coil are in motion relative
to the magnet and a voltage develops in the coil.

Move the magnet along with wire coil and the in the same direction and no voltage
develops.
................
An electron exerts a force around itself, which is termed as magnetic. That force is
not uniform in all directions around the electron.
That force is di-polar (N S).

This force is described as being a product of a kind of motion of the electro
(as if the electron were spinning upon an axis).  This can be problematic, given that
conventional description of the electron gives it, a diameter / volume / so on, as zero.
Hence quantized values.
..................
An electron exerts a force around itself, which is termed as electric (negative charge). 
A given two electrons will repel by this force.
Unlike the magnetic force surrounding an electron, the electric force distributes
uniformly in all directions around the electron (unless it is affected by an external force). 
That electric force decreases with distance, as the inverse of the square of the distance.
......
An electron within an atom has an orbiting motion around the nucleus of that atom.
That motion gives rise to a magnetic force which is related to but also distinctive from
the force arising due to the other two kind of motion (describe above).  It also gives rise to magnetic force.
.......

The mass of an object can be determined by applying a force of known value to that
object and  measuring the change in the object's speed.

Similarly, mas can be determined by observing the change in direction of motion of an
object in response to an applied force.

Electrons behave as if / demonstrate that they have mass !

In reference to the "rest mass" of an electron. 
Does that rest mass arise due to its spin ? 
Is an electron itself, a kind of standing wave ?
If so, a wave within what medium ?
Is that wave a vortex / closed ended and helical ?

What ever....  quantised or other wize, use the description that is best applied to
your approach experimentally and then use the other !

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