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Offline erfandl

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Re: Joule Thief
« Reply #16905 on: August 05, 2021, 04:26:44 PM »
So does this mean the LED has been lit for a week and the Batt V has not gone down?
If so quite impressive.

How many free watts would that be?
I'm wondering what the antenna does in this circuit. I think that is new from my memory.
With the antenna this circuit is looking more like the Morray/Bruce Perreault work.

Which diode is the LED? 



Thanks

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Yes that's right battery voltage did not decrease in a week.
Which antenna? There is no antenna in the circuit!. If you mean red wire, this wire is only for connecting the transistor collector to the circuit.

what you mean about "Which diode is the LED?"

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Re: Joule Thief
« Reply #16905 on: August 05, 2021, 04:26:44 PM »

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« Reply #16906 on: August 05, 2021, 06:39:29 PM »
Thanks Erfandl
the drawing here shows the circuit I refered to.
https://overunity.com/6123/joule-thief/msg552564/#msg552564

and I thought all Joule Thief's had an led... and the photo shows that too.
Did I get something twised up?

Norman

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« Reply #16907 on: August 06, 2021, 10:24:15 AM »
Thanks Erfandl
the drawing here shows the circuit I refered to.
https://overunity.com/6123/joule-thief/msg552564/#msg552564

and I thought all Joule Thief's had an led... and the photo shows that too.
Did I get something twised up?

Norman
Please look carefully. This post was not sent by me

this is my circuit:

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Re: Joule Thief
« Reply #16907 on: August 06, 2021, 10:24:15 AM »
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Offline norman6538

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« Reply #16908 on: August 06, 2021, 12:25:40 PM »
Thanks erfandl for clearing that up.
Norman

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Re: Joule Thief
« Reply #16909 on: August 07, 2021, 02:24:41 PM »
JUST HELPING OUT.

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Re: Joule Thief
« Reply #16910 on: August 07, 2021, 03:10:31 PM »
This photovoltaic cell 1000 times as efficient could couple as a Photonic reactor to the light mod circuit.

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« Reply #16911 on: August 07, 2021, 05:12:41 PM »
A nested tetrahedron of photo cells and LEDS facing in on each other recycling power would deliver more output per mass and volume then a fusion reactor.

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« Reply #16912 on: August 08, 2021, 08:56:17 PM »
The deodechedron consists of individual Tetrahedrons. The flat surface is superior to a spherical one. Nice shape for a "Photonic Reactor".

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« Reply #16913 on: August 08, 2021, 10:26:36 PM »
A nested tetrahedron of photo cells and LEDS facing in on each other recycling power would deliver more output per mass and volume then a fusion reactor.


A little overestimated ! The "1000 times" more are from 0,0...% basic conversion efficiency from ferroelectric material !


The MLU research findings  I see in correlation with Prof. Naoshi Ikeda et al. https://www.greenoptimistic.com/green-ferrite-solar-cell-japan-20110920/ findings !

crystal of RFe2O4

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=2011168967A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20110714&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP

[0117] Considering the voltage value of 20V/cm described above, for example, when the thickness of the crystal of RFe2O4 in the electronic device is 1 μm, the phenomenon of a change in state of electrons as described above is caused to appear by applying a voltage of approximately 2 mV to the crystal of RFe2O4.


 Further, considering the manufacture of an integrated circuit by use of a device having such a property, it is possible to configure an electronic circuit which can be driven by several mV.


If a circuit can be operated at approximately 1/1000 of the voltage for a conventional transistor integrated circuit, to simply calculate, it can be expected that its power consumption is ( 1/1000)<2>, that is approximately parts per million in a circuit composed by use of the above-described electronic device, and the performance that its operation speed is thousandfold is obtained.






Sincerely


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« Reply #16913 on: August 08, 2021, 10:26:36 PM »
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Re: Joule Thief
« Reply #16914 on: August 15, 2021, 01:51:25 AM »
Please look carefully. This post was not sent by me

this is my circuit:
That's an interesting circuit.  Thanks.  The circuit's simplicity shows that a simple pulse train can push drifting ions inside the battery well enough to keep the battery at least adequately charged.


My theory is that you can also use an additional charge sweeping effect to increase the recharging magnitude.  This requires combining two pulse trains with different amplitudes.  (A DC offset.)


Looking at the circuit, the output from the transformer at the top can be connected to a trifilar coil.  The first winding in this coil will act as the coil's primary winding, with it's output connected to the inputs of the other two windings, like a double output autotransformer.  One of these last two windings can have several more turns than the other, to produce a higher potential on that wire.


The two wires coming off the trifilar coil would each need it's its own transistor network, with these outputs combined on the way back to the battery.


This way, with added charge sweeping, we might also be able to drive an Inverter with the battery, while it powers the light bulb.




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« Reply #16915 on: August 16, 2021, 12:24:16 AM »
How much power would a 12 sided dodecahedron collector box of high performance photovoltaic cells generate over an extended run time with the 220 volt LED bulb fully illuminated inside?

A measurement of intensity in Lumans would permit the summation of theoretical power consumption. The comparison would deliver the  actual overunity COP.

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« Reply #16915 on: August 16, 2021, 12:24:16 AM »
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Online Jerry Volland

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« Reply #16916 on: August 16, 2021, 01:04:33 AM »
You could get around five times the equivalent solar panel output.  Presuming, of course, you use adequate cooling.


Looking at my circuit augmentation in a clearer light, the spot for the trifilar coil is between the output transistor and the charging battery.  The coil's output doesn't need any transistors.

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« Reply #16917 on: August 16, 2021, 02:33:46 AM »
How much power would a 12 sided dodecahedron collector box of high performance photovoltaic cells generate over an extended run time with the 220 volt LED bulb fully illuminated inside?

A measurement of intensity in Lumans would permit the summation of theoretical power consumption. The comparison would deliver the  actual overunity COP.


12 sided dodecahedron collector box :   size ? solar cell/modul/panel


high performance photovoltaic cells  :     % efficiency related radiation nm wavelength


220 volt LED bulb                           :   red,blue,white,green ?




Jerry Vollands 5x are similar the spanish inventor Baquero Menendez his PV light chamber with 8x 1,8mtr. 240 W panels and 500 sodium lamp as light source


lumen/Watt difference between CFL and LEDs are in the CFL 1 /LED 2 range ,the CFL consume can be reduced with controler :



https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=5130608A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19920714&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP


The module can be understood to be similarly used in combination with a plurality of parallel incandescent lamps or luminaires. Furthermore, the present invention is suitable for use in a lighting system combined either with a filamentous (e.g. tungsten or tungsten-halogen) lamp or a nonfilamentous lamp such as a pressurized gas lamp as used in street lighting systems.

 

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