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Author Topic: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology  (Read 278945 times)

itsu

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #900 on: September 11, 2018, 07:16:55 PM »
   Gyula:   Yes, it was the 22pF ceramic cap, it looked fine, but was dead. Thanks for the tip about the heat affecting them.
I have blown my share of transistors on this test circuit, and that's probably what fired the cap, when the transistors blow.
   Those little pF caps are of mayor importance, in the overall output seen at the bulbs. As well as the transistors that are chosen. I'm still looking for best right one (transistor),  that can cut it.  Even the crystals starts to heat up when using higher voltages.But, from what I've seen in almost All of these circuits is, that the transistors overheat, and the output is weak. That's what I'm working on to improve.
   
   Kelvin values, yes. Thanks again. The 2700 value  warm white,  G.E 8.5 watt led bulbs are great, and can also be dimmed. However,  I think that the filament type bulbs are the future of leds. There are some in a square shape, that are in laid on a glass frame. 12w, 1000 lumins and higher.  And some LEDs are now being produced up to 100w or higher, but, I don't think that I needs those, just yet. My crystal oscillator wouldn't know what to do with them...
   
  Itsu:  Did the MPSA06 actuallly perform any better than some of the other transistors that you've tried? Which transistor has provided the best output at the bulbs? What value trim pot do you use on the base circuit of your oscillator?
   I need to find a transistor that will hold up to higher voltages. As all the ones that I've used are too limiting, they overheat or don't provide much output, if I try to control the overheating at higher voltages.
   I may try to connect one of my L3 coils to my Kacher circuit.  What do you think will happen?...
Can a crystal powered Kacher circuit be made? That has the power of the Kacher circuit, but runs on the crystal frequency.
Or is that like trying to upscale, in the wrong way?
   Tito says that the receiving circuit needs to be different that the transmitting circuit.  Maybe he has a point?

   Lidmotor:  How would you loop the Docs circuits to self run???  I know that you've played around with that idea, before.So, Please share you thoughts and ideas, on that.
    Slider: Are you on vacation?
    I have a 37 meter earth ground line going from my work bench (kitchen table),  to my water well. And another 37m ground line from the well to my bench. So, over 70 meters long in total for both. Do you think that I can light my AC led bulb at my well, through this ground line? And perhaps, even return the output through the second ground line going back to my work bench, to light some bulbs, there? 70 meters total distance...  Forget about the well, for now, as it's just a grounding source.

Nick,

see this post:

https://overunity.com/17249/dr-ronald-stiffler-sec-technology/msg523338/#msg523338

where it says:

The 2SD1815S first shows some nice output after retuning.
The 100K trimmer pot across the x-tal was set to 43K for max output.
The transistor temperature went up to 42°C (107°F).
Output signal 20Vpp, collector signal 29Vpp

The 2SC4027S next shows some even better output after retuning.
The 100K trimmer pot across the x-tal was now set to 27.5K for max. output
The transistor temperature went up to 36°C (97°F).
Output signal 28Vpp, collector signal 30Vpp, see screenshot 1

So it seems the 2SC4027 is the better performer.

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I may try to connect one of my L3 coils to my Kacher circuit.  What do you think will happen?...
Can a crystal powered Kacher circuit be made? That has the power of the Kacher circuit, but runs on the crystal frequency.
Or is that like trying to upscale, in the wrong way?

Not sure what you mean by Kacher circuit, the whole circuit with transistor and all, or just the secondary kacher coil.
In the last case i don't think much will happen.

The kacher is a selfresonating circuit, so depends on the secondary coil self resonance.
You cannot force it to resonate at a Xtal frequency unless that Xtal has thew same frequency as the sec. coil.

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Tito says that the receiving circuit needs to be different that the transmitting circuit.  Maybe he has a point?

Tito? Tito who?  Different that or different then?   Either way, i have no idea what he means.

Itsu
 

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #901 on: September 11, 2018, 10:32:47 PM »
About brightness, advertising claims sometimes incorrect.
There are times we want to illuminate with color spectra. If you want the best performance of lighting as brightness 6000 Kelvin
will beat 8000 Kelvin. At night in the dark this performance is related to our eyes. 6000K spectra is popular in articulating detail
while 8000K is smoother or less harsh as we sense the reflections or it is said to feel more comfortable.

Since the each variety of led lights gives off a spectra we are working with an average. The better LUX meter will give
a better approximation.  Our eyes are still valid in comparing brightness. In this video and others, the Stiffler system
type electrical drive would be difficult limited by radio HF as in open wireless. Needless to say Stiffler is not normally
scaled to those higher levels and has not been seen by the public. We are working at smaller and safer level of RF.
So the subject of transistors like scale can be prohibitive for RF saftey reasons. We find that RF signal transistors are available
to the public whereas RF power transistors are usually not.

I thought this was a practical and informative test (ledmo, mo might mean designed for motion detector)
I would not think that Scaled up Stiffler system would be legal. Measuring a scaled closed DC system is getting more common.
https://youtu.be/oXaqJWdKBS8

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #902 on: September 12, 2018, 03:40:22 PM »
   Itsu:   Yes, thanks for the reply.   I remember your earlier post, but the question now is, does the MPSA06 that you now have perform any better than the best previous choice C4027 transistor? Not by reading the output voltages, but by seeing the light output at the bulbs. I know this can be a difficult thing to see sometimes, if the two transistors work to similarly to produce about the same degree of light.

   I now have the crystal oscillator running on 12v, instead of 24v or 36v. And it is producing about the same lumins, as with the higher voltages. This was done to reduce the transistor heating at higher voltages. But, I still don't have the blinding light levels, that Lidmotor is reporting on his AC bulb.   

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #903 on: September 12, 2018, 04:12:04 PM »

Nick,

i ordered and used the MPSA06 for in the SEC-18 exciter, i did not use any in the oscillator up till now.
I stayed with the 2SC4027 on a heatsink for the oscillator.

My leds are also not at blinding levels, so i think it has to do with the type of leds used (CREE).
Fiddling for the lowest input voltage at the highest output level of the leds is the way to go.

Itsu
 

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #904 on: September 12, 2018, 05:24:49 PM »
   Itsu:
   I see.  Well, that's where a variable power supply comes in handy. 
  At least at 12v, from a car battery I can run at almost the same lumin levels as I had at 24v. But, I'd still like to be able to upscale this oscillator to reach the "blinding" levels, which are still at "night light" low brightness levels, now.
   It is pretty amazing that the Doc can light his AC CREE bulbs to the near normal brightness, as compare to grid powered bulbs.   I'm still trying to get there... Like I mentioned, all I've seen is overheated transistors, and low light levels. Nothing to brag about.
   Even though many different transistors, resistors, or caps can be made to work on this circuit. But, NONE work to produce full brightness, or even close to it.  So, that is my objective, for now, to get some actual use able light from this contraption.
 I don't give up easily...Especially if what the Doc is showing, can be use to improve the Ruslan Type Kacher/Grenade set up. Which I'll be getting back to when I learn more about what is happening with this project. As I feel that there must be a similar relation to how a self runner should work, by tapping any additional energy from  the ambient.
   Lidmotor:  Thanks for the video link to your looped infinity light circuit. I'll give it a try sometime soon.
   I think that the main reason that my set up is not producing the same brightness as what you are seeing is due to the L3 coil that I'm using, as compare to the Docs L3, that you are using.  Perhaps.
I'm working on this... 
 

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #905 on: September 15, 2018, 02:13:04 AM »
   I see that Slider has been all ready willing and able since Aug. 10, with his Dr. Stiffler diode loop, SEC circuits and L3 coils.
Waiting for the Doc to show the next step. 
   Itsu and Lidmotor, are also waiting for the continuation of this project. 
   Me too...   What would happen if we just stick the oscillator circuit's L3 coil end, in the ground???   Slider?  Still on vacation?
 
   Tesla, is showing that it's possible to light incandescent bulbs by just screwing them into the ground...
            https://youtu.be/q0i67E48OV0

   

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #906 on: September 21, 2018, 05:37:34 PM »
   Guys:   Ok, so I've built up the Dr. Stiffler's "double diode loop", using a total of 32 IN4148 diodes, 16 diodes per loop.
 But, my oscillator does not seam to have a high enough output to power both bulbs. It will light a single 8.5w, 120v led bulb, as I had showed in a previous image, but it will not light two of them.
   The oscillator (output readings show about 60v with both bulbs on, but will only light about 1 1/4 of the bulbs, the second bulb  only about 1/4 of the leds will light. However, the "diode loop" is working.
But, I need a higher output to light both bulbs, or better tuning, or both.
   
   The unloaded output from the crystal oscillator, is about 100v. Sometimes it goes as high as 200v with no bulbs on, when using the double loop of diodes.  But with a load of two 8.5w bulbs (15w load), the voltage drops to about 60v, or so. Which seams too low to light both led bulbs, of a total 48 leds.
  The near field effects are at their best, when using this double diode loop, but are still having a hard time lighting the total of 48 leds, as of yet. However, the Doc uses only the 25v SG to light both sets of 9w or 11w led bulbs, but which are using a fewer number of leds.
   I have even gotten unloaded readings of up to 298v, at times. But, I'm not sure if I can trust those readings, on my multi meter. But the small white sparks at those voltages are starting to really sting and bite, and shock me, not just burn the skin from the RF.     Any ideas are welcome.   
   Is there any one else working on the double loop circuit.   Any luck???
 
   Dr. Stiffler must be waiting from cooler weather, or is still not feeling well. I hope he continues soon, before the winter comes, and he won't be able to stick the two ground rods into the frozen ground, and will have to wait until spring comes. 
Or, forgets about the whole ground transfer idea, altogether, and focuses instead on more practical uses, like self running, etz...
                                       NickZ
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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #907 on: September 21, 2018, 07:12:00 PM »
   I see that Slider has been all ready willing and able since Aug. 10, with his Dr. Stiffler diode loop, SEC circuits and L3 coils.
Waiting for the Doc to show the next step. 
   Itsu and Lidmotor, are also waiting for the continuation of this project. 
   Me too...   What would happen if we just stick the oscillator circuit's L3 coil end, in the ground???   Slider?  Still on vacation?
 
   Tesla, is showing that it's possible to light incandescent bulbs by just screwing them into the ground...
            https://youtu.be/q0i67E48OV0

 
Yeah!  sure he did but the earth was the return wasn't it !

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #908 on: September 22, 2018, 04:33:17 PM »
   Doc's latest video: 
   https://youtu.be/IhNs_uoVbPw
   Looks to me like he is still waiting for,  the juice to flow.

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #909 on: September 22, 2018, 07:27:39 PM »
     Guys:
   So, I got both 120v, 8w led bulbs to light up. As well as another 26 led board.   The 48 leds are running on a single diode loop. The other 26 led board is connected through an AV plug to a ground line.
   There are a total of 74 leds being lit from the 12MHz crystal oscillator, which is running on 24v, at this time.
   I will be trying to get the second diode loop also connected up and working. But, it would not work on my set up, the way that the Doc's diagram is showing it.  So, I'm having to improvise on that at bit...
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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #910 on: September 25, 2018, 04:06:30 PM »
   The Doc has a couple more new videos out now, in case you haven't seen them.

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #911 on: September 25, 2018, 04:38:49 PM »
"proof of concept" [few days ago]     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6S9QIweQio

"light receiver ASSY" [one day ago]   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QW7_KTGySI

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"Big Goof mistake number one"  [20 hrs ago]  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PJjgPh_1jw

respectfully
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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #912 on: September 26, 2018, 02:49:58 AM »
   Ramset:   Thanks for the links.  I think that most guys here can find those videos on their own, by now.  It's good, to post the the links, anyway.         
     Thanks, again.
   Guys:
   Ok, I have asked this question before...  Has anyone got the "double loop" working as the Doc has it in his diagram, that's posted on the double loop video? 
 I can't seam to get it to work as he has it. When I connect the second loop, the crystal oscillator won't light the two AC led bulbs,    I can get both loops to light individually, and both at the same time, when both loops are sharing the same 1/2 wave, but, not with each diode loop tapping each 1/2 wave polarity. Unloaded voltage output at the bulbs is now at 114v. So, it should work.
   Any help or ideas on that is welcome.                                                         
    NickZ
   BTW: the Doc didn't make a "big goof mistake", just a little one. Easy to fix, and already fixed.

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #913 on: September 26, 2018, 10:58:06 AM »

Nick,

i did a (the) double loop experiment here:

https://overunity.com/17249/dr-ronald-stiffler-sec-technology/msg524543/#msg524543

Not sure if that is the double loop experiment you are referring to now.

Itsu

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #914 on: September 26, 2018, 04:52:33 PM »
I just had enough 1n4148 diodes to complete this dual loop setup (2x 16 diodes), so i decided to replicate Stiffler his latest setup.

2x leds strip in series with a single led inbetween, driven by 2 diode loops 16 diodes each (1n4148), powered by the L3 coil via 2 100nF caps.

It seems indeed that each led (strip) is taking what it needs to just turn on, 2.57V for the single led, ±21V for each ledstrip.

Screenshot shows the voltage (yellow) across the single led, current (green) in the input line to the leds.

Video here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ab55U4sQ8E

   Itsu:   Thanks for posting that link to your double loop video. I had missed it, before.
   However, the 2.57v output is not what the Doc had mentioned should be taking place with the "double loop".
He was talking about what happens in parallel placement (2.7v), but not with the series placement.
Series connection of the leds should provide for the higher voltages. Higher than the 2.5 to 2.7v parallel placement.
   In any case you did have the double loop working, although not to any use able degree, from what I can see from that video.In order to see some use able light, we need to have the leds turning on at close to their normal 3.7v voltages. Which I haven't seen even the Doc showing, as yet. But, it's hard to evaluate the bulb brightness from looking at videos.
The main thing is that the double loop did not improve the voltages across each led, in your video, and the brightness is still not what it should be. So, I think that this point needs to be addressed.
   Another thing is that, shouldn't the two caps at the loops (0.1uf)  be 0.01uf instead? But I don't know if that will make any difference.  Nor do I know if that is correct, or not, as the diagram in the double loop video was too blurry to read.
    If we can't get any higher voltages from these tests, I don't see how this can be anything that can be of practical use.