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Author Topic: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology  (Read 17468 times)

Offline SkyWatcher123

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #210 on: June 15, 2018, 03:17:03 AM »
Hi gyulasun, had to run out after realzing the arrow was wrong way, hehe, thanks gyula, it's fixed now.
I will test the puffer capacitor tonight.
peace love light

Edit: Hi gyulasun, i placed a 450 volt - 68 uF polarized capacitor across av plug output.
The led bulb went out until the capacitor filled up, then the voltage across bulb (brightness) did not go up or down from 117.8 volts dc output.
Of course, I'm using a different primary now, 40 turns of 24awg. magnet wire and input is only 20 milliamps at 5.14 volts or 103 milliwatts and brightness is still darn good for that input.
Of course, zero heat in the transistor as well.

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
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« Reply #211 on: June 15, 2018, 06:59:16 AM »
Thanks Skywatcher for the info and update on that neat Slayer Exciter you made.  Slider I worked most of the day on making a simple voltage booster for my crystal oscillator exciter.  I just connected it from the tunable inductor on the exciter into the base of an MPSA06 NPN via a cap. The bare bones 'amp' was just an led connected to a 3v source and the collector.  The emitter went to the (-).  The crystal oscillator had enough punch to trigger the transistor and light the led.  Nothing fancy but it proved the concept.

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #212 on: June 15, 2018, 08:41:08 AM »
Hi all, Hi lidmotor, it is one of those filament style led bulbs from Feit.
Though I can't seem to find the exact version i bought awhile ago, a 2 pack of 40 watt equivalent.
It is printed on the bulb, 3.6 watt input at 450 lumens, this link is similar, https://www.homedepot.com/p/Feit-Electric-40-Watt-Equivalent-A15-Dimmable-Filament-LED-90-CRI-Clear-Glass-Light-Bulb-Soft-White-2-Pack-BPA1540927CAFIL-2-RP/304112237
,though it uses more power.
I would say, most of these filament style will work well, since I think they use a higher voltage without the circuitry.
It's not too difficult to remove the small circuit board from bottom of these bulbs, though i may have used a heat gun to loosen the glue holding base to glass bulb.
Hi erfandl, here is the circuit drawing.
peace love light :)

Edit: just checked the 24awg, magnet wire primary turns, 19 turns, wrapped together tight, though is not tight on top of other coil.
 Going to make a tighter wind primary with double the turns, 40 turns and compare, then can remove turns and compare also.
thanks for reply. so primary is 19 turns and secondary is 40 turns ?

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #212 on: June 15, 2018, 08:41:08 AM »
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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #213 on: June 15, 2018, 09:30:09 AM »
Hi all, thanks for the kind words lidmotor.
Hi erfandl, the original primary turns are 19, though the 30 awg. magnet wire secondary is one full layer over the 3-1/2" core former, I didn't count secondary turns.
Also, the primary is taped tight on at least  two sides, to get the wire strands tighter together and still allow the primary coil to slide on top of the secondary for tuning.
peace love light

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #214 on: June 15, 2018, 10:37:54 AM »
Hi all, thanks for the kind words lidmotor.
Hi erfandl, the original primary turns are 19, though the 30 awg. magnet wire secondary is one full layer over the 3-1/2" core former, I didn't count secondary turns.
Also, the primary is taped tight on at least  two sides, to get the wire strands tighter together and still allow the primary coil to slide on top of the secondary for tuning.
peace love light
thanks so much  :D

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #215 on: June 15, 2018, 02:49:30 PM »
member Microvolt did post this info at Aaron's forum

here  http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/9717-dr-stiffler-sec-replications-11.html
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Dr. Stiffler's latest video offering to sell the last of the sec 18 boards.
 
 https://youtu.be/wCBE6eeMyjw
 email: stifflerscientific@embarqmail.com
end quote
Chet k
   

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #216 on: June 15, 2018, 05:27:36 PM »
Hi SkyWatcher,

Thanks for the puffer cap test. I wonder if it caused any change in input current draw or in brightness, I guess not. It is easy to see: when in operation with the puffer cap in place, you remove the cap for a moment and see if there is any change. 

The stabil voltage (117.8 V DC) across the LED bulb is due to the Zener diode-like V-I characteristic of LEDs:
see this  from this site

 Your bulb includes 3 'ribbons' of LEDs,  I think each ribbon includes around 12 or 13 individual LEDs, all in series and the ribbons are also in seies connection I think.  Assuming 3.3 V forward voltage drop for each LED, 117.8/3.3=35.6  i.e.it gives 36 LEDs alltogether, so 12 LEDs for each ribbon if they can be counted by naked eye.
My calculation is an approximation of course, if I take only 3V forward voltage for each LED in the ribbons, then we get 39 LEDs, 13 for each ribbon.
The 20 mA input current from 5.1V is a very good achievement: it was surely due to the fact you increased the number of turns for the primary coil so the resonant high impedance of the secondary is transformed back to the collector with a lower turns ratio which of course results in a higher primary coil impedance the collector current 'sees'.
Let's put this with your numbers to understand it better: your 40 turn primary presents a much higher impedance for the collector (hence collector current reduces) than the original 19 turns primary coil presented, even if you changed the number of the secondary coil turns too, their ratio: Ns/Np should have got reduced (because Np is in the denominator and you doubled its value).   

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« Reply #216 on: June 15, 2018, 05:27:36 PM »
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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #217 on: June 15, 2018, 05:59:40 PM »
You're kidding right ? LOL
Here we've been putting 2 or 3 turns on Primaries for years and in fact the 'same amount of copper' holds true if it's many turns too. The current always goes down with more turns but usually output does too when we use say 12AWG. By using 30AWG, the turns amount can go up, the transistor runs cooler and power usage can be reduced.
I know what i'll be doing within the next hour !

Great know about the simplified booster Lidmotor. A coil output following such a design changes the signal back to a sine too I gather, so it's all worthwhile exploring. 

To add:
Datasheet for PN4248:
http://www.nteinc.com/specs/original/PN4248_49.pdf
MPSA18 seems to be the common NPN that would suit. Similar ratings including the high gain.

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #218 on: June 15, 2018, 06:09:19 PM »
Hi Mark,
Here is some more 'kidding'... LOL
What if you make the primary coil also a resonant tank at the oscillator frequency ? i.e. at the self resonant frequency of the secondary coil because the latter is the main oscillator tank. 
This way the primary coil impedance can increase quasi independently from the turns ratio.

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #218 on: June 15, 2018, 06:09:19 PM »
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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #219 on: June 15, 2018, 07:24:37 PM »
Hi all, Hi gyulasun, something interesting i just observed.
I thought about your request and wanted to see what the current draw was if i placed a completely discharged 450 volt - 68 uF polarized capacitor across the av plug output,
The input current drops to zero, then climbs as it charges.
I thought a capacitor draws the most amperage when initially charging it, this circuit output then does the opposite.
I'm also testing this setup now at 11.5 volt input - .12 amps, the 1n4148 diodes are getting a little hot
and the voltage at the led bulb is 124 volts dc and led bulb blinding.
Oddly though, the transistor is staying slightly warm, even though the watt specs. are being exceeded.
peace love light
 
Edit: gyulasun, the led bulb has 4 ribbons and still, it could be a useful circuit for a capacitor dumping system, i think.
« Last Edit: June 15, 2018, 09:53:23 PM by SkyWatcher123 »

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #220 on: June 15, 2018, 07:58:03 PM »
Hi SkyWatcher,
Your observation is okay and "unfortunately" known science can explain it.  The uncharged capacitor is a short circuit in the very first moments it is attached to a voltage or current source.  You think it correctly that in these moments the capacitor draws the most amperage. But
Because in this oscillator the output is the oscillating coil itself, an LC tank, and C being the self capacitance of the coil, about 3 to 5 pf for such single layer and long coils.  So if the cap is shorting this tank and it surely does, then there can be no oscillations because the high impedance of the tank disappears and becomes a very low impedance.  If you touch the top wire of the tank with your finger, then oscillations may also stop hence input current will be nearly zero again.  (It cannot be total zero because the 100 kOhm base resistance should DC bias it a little.)
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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #221 on: June 15, 2018, 11:29:20 PM »
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Edit: gyulasun, the led bulb has 4 ribbons and still, it could be a useful circuit for a capacitor dumping system, i think.
Okay on the 4 ribbons instead of 3:  this does not matter here and does not change anything you have found or I have said on them so far, except for the number of LEDs in one ribbon may then be only 9 in series and the 4 ribbons are also in series.  What is needed for the original LED bulb manufactured for 120 V AC is to use as many LEDs as needed by summing up their forward voltage drops to make up closely for the full wave rectified and possibly also filtered mains input amplitude, to get the just needed LED current hence specified bulb power. 
You have the original circuit that was put inside for driving the LEDs from the mains, I think it consists of a full wave diode bridge and a puffer cap, and maybe a some Ohm resistor in series with the AC input to limit current a little.  LED lamps originating mainly from China use a 1-2 uF non-electrolytic capacitor also in series with the mains input to drop AC input voltage for the LEDs as needed.
Gyula

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #222 on: June 16, 2018, 12:33:23 AM »
Hi Lidmotor,

Here are the data sheets for your 4 pin crystal oscillators.
http://pccomponents.com/datasheets/mpc-970t.pdf  for the 13.68 MHz  and
https://www.datasheets360.com/pdf/-2929749759931786650   for the ZPB-5 oscillator.

You can see that these also require 5V DC +/- 0.15V or so volt and the output gives TTL level oscillator signals.
I mention this because in your video 2 days ago the DC supply voltage was only 4.1V for the MPC 13.68 MHz oscillator.
Luckily the oscillator has been able to work and give output. 
From an 5V supply the output level will also increase to 4Vpp or so, too. Of course, if you wish to use a 4V supply instead of 5V and the 4 pin oscillator still works and gives enough output level for driving your proposed amplifier, then it is okay.

Gyula


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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #223 on: June 16, 2018, 04:29:17 AM »
Skywatcher123 - first of all let me apologise for getting your name wrong in the video below...am new here  ???
I had a look at your multi-turn Primary idea and must say that it's a great idea !
36 turns of the same 30AWG as the main coil. But the main coil is split in half as another difference.
The DMM seems to have messed up though, it reports 19.5mA at 5V  8)
Half decent light out of the 8W DT bulb, the 12 diode ring similar to Dr. Stiffler's build runs really really well. The pseudo SFM works wirelessly and the wireless field is all over the table and to a good height above it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6uVwFaCDeg


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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #224 on: June 16, 2018, 06:42:26 AM »
Hi all, Hi slider, thanks for sharing, now i will have to test using the same gauge for primary, which is also 30awg. in my setup.
I think your observed amp input, is probably fairly accurate.

I decided to place another identical, modified led bulb in parallel with the other led bulb.
The input did not change and both bulbs are quite bright, of course the original bulb dimmed a little, though not as much as one might imagine, the light output from both is very impressive.
I need to get some more 1n4148 diodes and put at least 2 in parallel per av plug leg, because they get hot.
Am also going to try some other small transistors to compare.
Though keep in mind, I'm using 1.5 watt input at the moment, though i wonder what the same gauge primary will do.
peace love light :)
 

 

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