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Author Topic: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology  (Read 280617 times)

NickZ

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #75 on: May 31, 2018, 07:37:18 PM »
  TinMan's neon is lit, but it can light with 70v or sometimes even less voltage, and not the 200+ he is stating. As it is just barely lighting the neon...
 You can try a regular voltmeter, to see what it reads, also. Sometimes they can read the correct values, on something like this, but mostly they won't read correctly. Just like the Dr. showed, (incorrect scope values).

   Please place any circuit or coil away from the table, on some styrofoam (or similar), and elevated off of the table by a few inches. Same thing with your SG, and it's wires. Turn off you house breakers. 
   Otherwise you're just fishing for stray AC.  I'm sure you'll find that stray capacitance, all over the house.And you'll be fooled by it, lighting an led bulb.
   

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #76 on: May 31, 2018, 10:53:05 PM »
Oh you are quite right...I tend to build with what I have. If it seems to work then things get more exacting, a route for disaster but works sometimes lol
Anything built away from what's shown can only be pseudo and i've hardly ever referred to something as a replication, unless it's open ended as to what can be used.
The method being the important thing.

It does look like that plethora of fakey fakes doesn't it. I'm thinking that something, somewhere did work as was described and the fake vids are merely copying the look of it blindly for Youtube hits and ad revenue.


TinMan just showed a vid where he used 2x axial inductors as an alternative to an AV plug for the SEC type experiments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyX9nRrym3Y
I decided to have a go at that with bits on the bench.
The inductors are regular wound types, 2 different values. It didn't work with the sig gen, but does work with a SWES (Simple Wireless Electricity System).
15 turns bifilar pancake, S9014, diode from battery negative to Emitter, 1.5V AAA
It's kind of neat how no trailing wire or clip lead is needed and it stands up on the coil.
It's difficult for me to understand the American jargon  ;D no offense there.
The photo shows what looks like a ribbon cable ? if so are the layers interconected ?
any chance you can show more detail ? and whats Wireless Electricity System about ?

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NickZ

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #77 on: June 01, 2018, 03:36:31 AM »
   Dr. Stiffler just posted another new video. By adding another diode, he was able to obtain a higher output at the cree bulb.

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #78 on: June 01, 2018, 04:29:51 PM »
   Here's an old video of mine, showing what the stray AC can do to light an led.
   This is why I recommend isolating the device from this type of influence.
Otherwise you will be fooled by thinking that you are havesting Aether, from the ambient, when in fact it's just stray capacitance of the AC from the house wiring.
  https://youtu.be/Xur_VChGdzE
  And here is the Doc's latest video:   https://youtu.be/2Z9ae0MkfbQ

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #79 on: June 01, 2018, 06:29:15 PM »
AG - your comment was pure gold there about the Americanisms. I'm English, but live in the USA  ;D
I do though acknowledge the strange cross-over in language use that has developed.
The coil is a flat single layer pancake, 2 wire core wound around and around on itself 15 times and secured with superglue. 9 turns is about the minimum, extra turns than 15 don't yield extra output. The circuit will saturate above about 3V, so a 1.5V AA or AAA is ideal. Old 56K modem cables are ideal. A diode from either battery connection can reduce current or heat, as can a resistor to the Base of the transistor, but then it starts to step away from being the simplest wireless circuit possible. It was named 'Simple Wireless Electricity System' or SWES.
I know it's not the focus of these experiments and I don't sell them or anything, it's always been Open Source since 2012 and replicated without acknowledgement ever since (not that it's needed).
Vid link to explain: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSUGXCWIVoI
An even easier and simpler version is SWES 2, 2 coils of wire wound around a medicine bottle as a former.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpGRghguv2g

There is a point to trying the Dr. Stiffler experiments with other forms of input, especially Exciters, because folks are having troubles building or acquiring 20MHz signal generators !
These simple things of mine are an extra route of doing so.


Yes indeed Nick, outdoors demo's are becoming ever more needed. Also, motors and filament bulbs for better power showing than LED's. A gent on Youtube suggested that and I quite agree, mains being a heck of a deceiver to the results of experiments.

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #80 on: June 01, 2018, 06:44:19 PM »
In fact, here we go Nick, this is my 2 diode/3 diode experiment just uploaded....where you can see how the body capacitance partially fires up the SFM.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYn82ZG2IuQ

NickZ

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #81 on: June 02, 2018, 04:41:50 AM »
   And yet another video just posted today by Dr. Stiffler.  This time with no third diode.  Look for it yourself, if interested. I can't post a link from this tablet.   There must be a point to all his musing, but I don't know where it's leading to.
   The problem with using an Exciter is that you can't control the frequency, without adding or removing wire turns on the secondary coil. Ferrite inside the core will only control the frequency to a point.
   Looks to me like the Doc is using a 3 inch piece of 1/2 inch hot water pipe as his coil former tube.
So what gauge mag wire and turn count is he using, now?   I have a signal generator, but only goes to 2MHz. So I would need to find a lower harmonic, within my range.

  I thought the Doc's psec was a more interesting circuit, as it did not need a high end SG signal, to light some LEDs. Kind of ironic, isn't it? What happened to tapping the Aether, ambient, "or whatever you want to call it"...

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #82 on: June 02, 2018, 05:42:01 AM »
If you want to replicate the Stiffler circuit showing that it works correctly with same drive level. Previous the projects required
equivalent equipment. The project shows diode loop, 13 W led array and a signal generator.

In DC that is 12V * 930mA = 13W  ( I don't think Dr. Stiffler is using 13 Watts )
Using RF we can use a 2N5109 general purpose HF range transistor. It should
work nicely with the lower output signal generators or crystal to increase the drive level.

« Last Edit: June 03, 2018, 08:55:47 AM by mikrovolt »

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Stiffler Loop Stubby
« Reply #83 on: June 03, 2018, 05:00:19 AM »
 I made a simplified 'Stiffler Loop' today using just one LED.  Everything is chopped down to bare bones.  I used a small Slayer Exciter to drive it.  How does this work?   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gK-8Sd3W5o

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #84 on: June 03, 2018, 06:11:35 AM »
Indeed, saying a lot of us thought we had seen pretty much everything to do with these circuits as table top demo's, this is a bit different. Neat trick indeed with the foil around the plastic part of the LED.
Can it work with just 1 diode ?

Am just about ready to test a crystal circuit on the scope, using a 13.492MHz 2 legged crystal.
The circuit itself is the H2Grow from a few years back, which positively helps plant growth. It does work well for that, but used 27MHz (University of Dublin).
Idea, is to use USB input, run the circuit on that and have a cheap Chinese booster deliver the 20V+ for a fast MOSFET, which is switched by the crystal circuit output.
Am a bit stuck on the MOSFET bit yet, but may try an A49T, most top out at about equiv 10MHz or won't switch at 5V.
Attached is the circuit diagram for the crystal oscillator, plus there's 100uF smoother over the input.

 

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #85 on: June 03, 2018, 11:16:39 AM »
Hi that's an interesting frequency 27 Mhz since the resonance of the Universe will divide equally into it with no remainder
and so also will the resonance of the earth 8hz and 9hz and also 432hz brilliant  ;D ;D



AG

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #86 on: June 03, 2018, 04:10:19 PM »
   The Schumann resonant frequency, 7.83Hz. I don't know if it's the same as the Universal resonant frequency, outside of our planet. No one has been there to deep space to find out. The moon is still within the vortex of this planet, which is as far as they've gotten. OR so they say, but that's probably just another lie from NASA.
   Perhaps picking a higher harmonic of the Schumann resonant frequency? Since we know that there is something vibrating there.
   The 2.4MHz is where your cell phones, cell towers, and your routers work at.  Easy to get lost in all that noise.

   I don't see the advantage of this new Dr. Stiffler circuit.  Better to return back to using the PSEC, on a real earth ground. which is what I think that the Doc will end up doing.

   So what if you can light an led bulb off an exciter, or signal generator. Or using a 3.7v battery as the input source. Might as well connect the led direct to the 3.7v battery. What are you gaining otherwise?  Not much, if anything that I can see.
   
   Lidmotor:  Maybe you should try a proper Earth ground, to see what that does to your device. It can't hurt.
Unless you want to keep your finger on the diodes, to see the led light up brighter. 

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #87 on: June 03, 2018, 07:04:04 PM »
Older R/C flyers will remember 27MHz clearly, plus 49MHz and 72MHz.
But the Doc did state that the resonant freq of his Cree board was in the 13MHz range.
He's also stated that 13.6MHz is very important, because iirc it was seen on his spectrum analyzer to always be present.
Not all such arrays or LED's will be at that freq....so am presently swapping out crystals and looking at the scope for the cleanliness. The whole point being to help out folks with no signal generator if possible. If there are successes with a simple circuit, then it could be housed in a real bulb.
It would be neat to have a switch on bulbs for A/C mains or Exciter operation and also reminds of the data over the mains thing of the 1980's. Regular household gear would run on the 60Hz, Exciter stuff would run on the far higher frequency, on the same wiring. 

There isn't much cleanliness yet lol, attached is the shot of the 13.4MHz crystal. Looks like I need to adjust the cap values. Transistor is an H945 (had never seen the H variant, so desoldered it from a junker board and threw it in).


I think the point of these latest experiments is to run a bulb from far less power input than would regularly be used. Plus by the very nature of resonance, every bulb would be dimmable. These dollar store ones say 'non dimmable' for example. Also the use of a single wire is far safer than regular mains.


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The 'Loop"
« Reply #88 on: June 03, 2018, 07:36:51 PM »
 The question I have is do certain high frequency signals (with a tiny amount of power pushing it) cause a circular electron flow within the diode 'Loop' or are we seeing something else.  Capacitive coupling, grounding, or standing wave effects are very well understood.  What is going on here? 
  No matter what it is perhaps there are applications for the effect.  I remember 50 years ago when people thought that LEDs were just good for electronic equipment indicator lights. They were too dim in those days for any other use. The same thoughts applied to solar cells.
Cheers,
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NickZ

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #89 on: June 03, 2018, 09:12:41 PM »
  Standing waves, or the Stiffler loop. "Which is it".  Both, perhaps. 

   Guys:
   Watch the Docs latest video, posted today, about that.   I think that I know where he's going with all this, but he's still a ways away.
These last few videos are just more tests to see what up with that.
   I would like to tag along, but don't have the high end SG.
   However, I do have a working Kacher circuit, able to output about 5000v, or higher. As well as a 2Mhz signal generator, that's just collecting dust. I don't know if any of that would really do, here.
   
   We need to know the exact turn count on his coils, including the new one he added just today.
And if it's pvc hot water pipe for his former? Along with any other info needed.

   As the Doc would like to see some replication efforts, instead of just comments without hands on, to back things up.
   I think that the Doc's been reading my post, and finally is showing the possible effects of the stray AC output on his AV plug/led tester, that he is now showing on his last video today. Although he calls it something else.
  So, bottom line is... That there is more to this than meets the eye.
  And, we could use his help, here on this thread, as well. 
  So,   Dr. Stiffler,  please sign in and give us a hand.