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Author Topic: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology  (Read 278770 times)

Slider2732

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #60 on: May 29, 2018, 10:02:10 PM »
Great to see you here Rusty  ;D
One thing you never have been is your forename.
But perhaps one area of research that does get a little jaded and forgotten is that of wireless electricity. We've all been there, done the circuits and a lot have shown the videos...but this 'Stiffler Loop' seems exactly like it should be a pair of AV plugs if it isn't a bridge rectifier.
Maybe it is, but the way his method works could make it all less than simple. Or, indeed this method isn't already fully known and understood. Seems like a slim chance, but who knows, I completely get why there is doubt.
Germanium diodes are different to silicon and mostly used differently, Dr. Stiffler's usage may be different to conventional usage too....I hope he stays in good health for a long time so that we too can further such a thing, if indeed it somehow amplifies current.

Back to driving voltage though for a moment:
Here's a pic of a test setup just performed. A 100uF cap on the output of the DS203.
1.677V is the output.
A 1 Ohm resistor could be used and I=V/R for the current. That might be the best way.
In any case, it's low and has to be, because the unit is battery powered :)

mikrovolt

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler diode loop
« Reply #61 on: May 29, 2018, 10:48:58 PM »
hello measurement not easy
« Last Edit: May 31, 2018, 06:19:23 AM by mikrovolt »

Lidmotor

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Stiffler Loop
« Reply #62 on: May 30, 2018, 12:51:29 AM »
I may have figured out Dr. Stiffler's 'Stiffler Loop' device.  I am driving it with a Slayer Exciter but it might even work off your signal generator Mark if you want to give it a go.  Neat stuff.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7zBvOEJSP4

Slider2732

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #63 on: May 30, 2018, 08:21:22 AM »
Wicked video, enjoyed it !
We're motoring here with the new revelation...all really good to get back to and with Ron being very helpful too.


A new vid will be edited together and posted tomorrow morning, i've had a breakthrough that pulls a lot of this together, well hopefully folks see it that way.
Back to the 1.5V AA powered Slayer Exciter, but using the 'Stiffler Loop' as well and the SFM with no signal generator.
The 'range' is simply extraordinary in my opinion.
There is also a very odd trait, in that the 2nd same Slayer Exciter circuit comes into tune better the further the L3 pick up clip lead gets from the source !

Screenshot:

Slider2732

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #64 on: May 30, 2018, 04:20:19 PM »
Video is up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2euJ7vGNkjk
 :)

Am now removing the big metal blocks and exploring the odd resonance interactions, where moving things further away can actually tune up a receiving coil better.

Lidmotor

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New Dr. Stiffler video
« Reply #65 on: May 30, 2018, 10:47:59 PM »
Well it looks like this project is not attracting as many people as I thought it would.  Slider and I seem to be the only ones building so far.  Anyway here is Doc's latest video that shows an even simpler device lighting up from a signal generator.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTSMNB4h9U8&t=0s

NickZ

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #66 on: May 31, 2018, 02:41:04 AM »
   I was hoping to see the Doc showing it self running using just a ground line.  Not needing a any made input source, like the signal generator, or an exciter circuit. No such luck...
  I would gladly build the simple circuit,  and follow along, I may still do so, if I see some practical use for those experiments.
   Would really like to see those tests done outside, and not laying on top of tables,  or with an Exciter circuit connected to the AC outlet, inside the house. To get me excited about those types of tests. And, not to mention some useable output,  therefrom.


Lidmotor

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #67 on: May 31, 2018, 04:27:03 AM »
Good news.  Mark made a comment on one my videos that we should be able to use a MHz crystal circuit to produce the signal. A light went on in my head.  I did this back in 2013 using a super simple 1Mhz crystal and a 22if choke circuit.  Check this out-----

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4zEpTpiais

Cheers----Rusty

Belfior

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #68 on: May 31, 2018, 10:20:58 AM »
Good news.  Mark made a comment on one my videos that we should be able to use a MHz crystal circuit to produce the signal. A light went on in my head.  I did this back in 2013 using a super simple 1Mhz crystal and a 22if choke circuit.  Check this out-----

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4zEpTpiais

Cheers----Rusty

Could you put a scope in the circuit after the crystal oscillator and the choke? It is DC with ripple after the plug, so does not really matter, but would be nice to see the waveform

DrJones

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #69 on: May 31, 2018, 01:53:05 PM »
Good news.  Mark made a comment on one my videos that we should be able to use a MHz crystal circuit to produce the signal. A light went on in my head.  I did this back in 2013 using a super simple 1Mhz crystal and a 22if choke circuit.  Check this out-----

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4zEpTpiais

Cheers----Rusty


    Nice! 
  This development makes me think of Dr. Moray's device back in the early years (circa 1930-1955) when he was playing with a crystal he picked up in Europe.  No doubt an oscillator!  at least that's what I think.  He would tune the thing, then could generate ample power (according to the observations of one Dr Harvey Fletcher who examined the operating Moray device at length).


   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRigG687ies

Slider2732

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #70 on: May 31, 2018, 03:27:42 PM »
Am glad the idea resparked an interest Rusty, am sure i'm of more community use researching this than flying paper airplanes around. There do need to be more people looking into the effects, else the few of us could get stuck and throw the towel in.
Mnsman1 says he's now interested in building and I respect his work too.

But Nick's position is wholly reasonable and anyone else reading the thread - show a device that does something OU and we'll invest time and likely money at it, that's why everyone is here. 

A 4 pin crystal is an easier circuit than the 2 pin, but I may well try builds of both.
The lack of a signal generator shouldn't get in the way to replicate the Doc's work.

AlienGrey

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #71 on: May 31, 2018, 04:28:31 PM »
Am glad the idea resparked an interest Rusty, am sure i'm of more community use researching this than flying paper airplanes around. There do need to be more people looking into the effects, else the few of us could get stuck and throw the towel in.
Mnsman1 says he's now interested in building and I respect his work too.

But Nick's position is wholly reasonable and anyone else reading the thread - show a device that does something OU and we'll invest time and likely money at it, that's why everyone is here. 

A 4 pin crystal is an easier circuit than the 2 pin, but I may well try builds of both.
The lack of a signal generator shouldn't get in the way to replicate the Doc's work.
can you give me and details on how to wind the coil ?

AG

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #72 on: May 31, 2018, 05:44:39 PM »
Hi AG,
For Dr. Stiffler's set ups I believe he uses ~80 turns of 26AWG on 1/2" PVC pipe, but it needs clarification.
For my own, they are wound on solder tubes, 90 turns of 28AWG or whatever I have around...in the case of the 2 matched Slayer Exciters, there are 170 turns each from 2 exactly the same mini transformers. The transformers were on one of the 'too many' junk boards around here.
The thing being that any coil with enough inductance can be tuned with a ferrite rod. It may be incorrect to do things that way, but I don't have a working LC meter and so can't build to an exacting inductance.
Such tuning abilities from incorrectly built parts were based on Lidmotor's similar wish to tune up a simple Exciter. I also believe the Doc used to use a ferrite rod in his setups, but dropped it in favour of the small variable capacitors.

A tip for securing the ends of such coils is to drill 2 holes slightly apart in the start end of say a solder tube (the opposite end to the hole). Run the start of the wire through those and it won't pull out. Same thing for the other end after wrapping tightly. Saves on glue or tape that may come away over time.

NickZ

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #73 on: May 31, 2018, 06:45:00 PM »
   Slider:   You need to replicate to exact specs, and not guessing at turns or inductance. It took the Doc several months  to be able to obtain the shown results.
   It's best to use new mag wire, not used wire. Are solder tubes what the Doc used? Use the same former, also.Get the same cree bulb, etz.
   No one said this was going to be easy... So, don't throw in the towel,   just yet.

   The circuit using the magnets on the torroid coil looks similar to many new videos out now, showing how they can light some bulbs, with NO additional input source. Just using magnets, on coils, and an led bulb, similar or just like the cree bulb. I think that there may be a relation there, to what the Doc is doing.There must be.  At least to some, of what may not be faked.
  Most are most likely click baits. They get a dollar per 1000 clicks. Whether they work as shown, or not.

Slider2732

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #74 on: May 31, 2018, 07:05:38 PM »
Oh you are quite right...I tend to build with what I have. If it seems to work then things get more exacting, a route for disaster but works sometimes lol
Anything built away from what's shown can only be pseudo and i've hardly ever referred to something as a replication, unless it's open ended as to what can be used.
The method being the important thing.

It does look like that plethora of fakey fakes doesn't it. I'm thinking that something, somewhere did work as was described and the fake vids are merely copying the look of it blindly for Youtube hits and ad revenue.


TinMan just showed a vid where he used 2x axial inductors as an alternative to an AV plug for the SEC type experiments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyX9nRrym3Y
I decided to have a go at that with bits on the bench.
The inductors are regular wound types, 2 different values. It didn't work with the sig gen, but does work with a SWES (Simple Wireless Electricity System).
15 turns bifilar pancake, S9014, diode from battery negative to Emitter, 1.5V AAA
It's kind of neat how no trailing wire or clip lead is needed and it stands up on the coil.