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Author Topic: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology  (Read 129742 times)

Offline NickZ

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #90 on: June 03, 2018, 09:32:50 PM »
   Slider:   You mentioned: "I think the point of these latest experiments is to run a bulb from far less power input than would regularly be used. Plus by the very nature of resonance, every bulb would be dimmable".                                                                                      end quote.

    Well, that may be part of it, but I think that another part of the goal is to understand where any extra energy is coming from, if such exists, what is it, and just how to best tap into it.
   As you may know, there is no way to currently test for Aether sources. So, it's a tough call... we can only test for its "effects".

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« Reply #91 on: June 03, 2018, 10:06:22 PM »
I know Nick can't post the Stiffler links from his I phone / Cup and string.....

so here are some links

Today   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On_ynVaUGHM

2 days ago  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkuvHgCmm6U

3 days ago  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z9ae0MkfbQ

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #92 on: June 03, 2018, 10:11:20 PM »
   Thanks,  Chet. 

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #93 on: June 03, 2018, 10:13:15 PM »
Ronald did not see my second comment on YT. In reply to my first comment he clearly stated 27 mc is not okay. So here is my 2 cents for a better solution:
Google for "NFC Reader writer USB RFID 13.56 Mhz"
It usually is USB powered so the voltage will be low. Far from 20 Volts peak to peak. Perhaps it is closer to 2 Volts peak to peak.
Perhaps we have a developer in the house with an RFID reader?
If not, take your SFC apparatus to the store and try it there :-) It won't harm their equipment.
I don't have one, all I have is a 20 Mhz sinus generator max. 1 Volt peak to peak :-(
Of course I did not even try it out. (it runs over USB on a windows 95 program, old stuff).

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« Reply #94 on: June 04, 2018, 12:19:07 AM »
Hi Nick,

I think the answer to Dr Stiffler's  'which is which question'  is: the current loop is into which the single super bright LED is embedded and the Cree LED board on the lower left is fed by the 'standing waves'.

If you have a certain size of enamelled copper wire between say awg 24 to 33, you could make a single layer air coil on a PVC pipe of say 3 to 4 cm OD and say with 20-25 cm length then you could wind a coil which very likely has an SRF of less than 2 MHz your generator already works. 

I used coil32 free coil calculator see here http://coil32.net/  and I estimated the above and below data by that.

On a 3 cm OD, 25 cm long PVC pipe a coil with 610 turns from d=0.32 mm enamelled copper wire gives an SRF of  1.979 MHz and this self resonant frequency would be less than that when you connect the coil into the Dr Stiffler circuit.  Winding length would be about 19.5 cm when using the 0.32 mm wire.  If you have other sizes for the pipe or wire, the calculator estimates the data.

Gyula



  Standing waves, or the Stiffler loop. "Which is it".  Both, perhaps. 

   Guys:
   Watch the Docs latest video, posted today, about that.   I think that I know where he's going with all this, but he's still a ways away.
These last few videos are just more tests to see what up with that.
   I would like to tag along, but don't have the high end SG.
   However, I do have a working Kacher circuit, able to output about 5000v, or higher. As well as a 2Mhz signal generator, that's just collecting dust. I don't know if any of that would really do, here.
   
   We need to know the exact turn count on his coils, including the new one he added just today.
And if it's pvc hot water pipe for his former? Along with any other info needed.

   As the Doc would like to see some replication efforts, instead of just comments without hands on, to back things up.
   I think that the Doc's been reading my post, and finally is showing the possible effects of the stray AC output on his AV plug/led tester, that he is now showing on his last video today. Although he calls it something else.
  So, bottom line is... That there is more to this than meets the eye.
  And, we could use his help, here on this thread, as well. 
  So,   Dr. Stiffler,  please sign in and give us a hand.

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« Reply #95 on: June 04, 2018, 12:56:53 AM »
...

There isn't much cleanliness yet lol, attached is the shot of the 13.4MHz crystal. Looks like I need to adjust the cap values. Transistor is an H945 (had never seen the H variant, so desoldered it from a junker board and threw it in).

I think the point of these latest experiments is to run a bulb from far less power input than would regularly be used. Plus by the very nature of resonance, every bulb would be dimmable. These dollar store ones say 'non dimmable' for example. Also the use of a single wire is far safer than regular mains.
Hi Slider,

I repeat here my answer given to you elsewhere, perhaps it helps others here.

Your 13.4 Mhz oscillator waveform needs some 'cleaning' to get rid of the two peaks in the positive halfwaves that may trigger your proposed MOSFET switch twice during the positive halfwaves. To do the 'cleaning', just make the coil in the collector (if there is a coil there, lol, there should be) somehow tuneable if possible.  But wait,

 You could 'crank up' the oscillator amplitude for 'free' by using a tapped tank circuit whereby the collector would be connected to a coil tap so that only 25-30% of the full coil turns would be between the collector and the positive rail and a tuning capacitor would be connected across the full coil to tune it to 13.4 MHz. Of course you would need to tinker with the coil full inductance to bring it to resonate with say a 50 pF to 100 pF variable or trimmer cap or just with a 40 pF trimmer cap. To do this you would need about a 4 uH coil tapped around a quarter part of its full number of turns. (Maybe you have an L meter?)

This way you should have ample peak to peak sine wave voltage across the coil in the order of 10, 15 or 20 Vpp (depends on the Q of the tank and the supply voltage) and of course the capacitive loading nature of Dr Stiffler's circuit as a whole should not appear as a heavy load to the 'hot point' of the LC tank where the other end wire of the coil and the other end of the tuning cap is tied together and is otherwise left 'floating'. If the capacitive loading nature of the Stiffler circuit pulls the LC tank from the crystal resonance, then you can retune the tank by the variable or the trimmer capacitor, watching the waveform on the scope across the coil.

 I agree with you on the point you wrote above:  very likely the goal would be to excite the Dr Stiffler circuit with "voltage" (which is created by a very low power oscillator) and not from a 'beefy' generator (even if the generator output is not loaded by the usual way).  Whether a low power oscillator is able to excite the Doc circuit with "voltage" it remains to be seen.

Gyula

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #96 on: June 04, 2018, 01:14:44 AM »
   Gyulasun:   Good to hear from you.   As I mentioned, I have a coil that I have been using for HV experiments, (on another Akula/Ruslan type of device).   Since I'm waiting for parts for a new driver circuit, before I build that new circuit up, I may have some time to do something on this thread.
   I do have and use a simple Kacher driver for the Kacher (Tesla Coil) circuit presently, for the HV tests. Which free runs at about 1.1Mhz, as is. Or with just the secondary (TC type coil) itself, (no type of top load), can run at higher frequencies. Ferrite inside the TC core can vary the frequency from about 800KHz, to the free running frequency of 1.1MHz. But, can also free run to about 3.1Mhz, also, without anything added onto it's output side. Once the HV has been stepped down by other coils, it can light up incandescent bulbs, 25w very brightly, 50w about half bright, and even a 100w bulb, to about 1/4 brightness, or less, but still lighting it. Which might be overkill for this type of project, but, I'm looking to do more than just to light an low wattage led.Still though, the info on how this capacitive link works to what the Doc was calling "spacial resonance" is what interests me, at this time. Not just lighting up some bulbs.
   And, also as mentioned, I have a 2MHz SG. I forget just how many volts it can output, it's not much, but it can light an led.
   So, I would need to find a lower harmonic of the Doc's running frequency, to be able to see some effects, on my set up. I think.   And just what to look for, or expect to see, as something to aim for.

    Lidmotor just posted another new video, placing his little driver circuit inside a microwave oven.  And, his circuit's neon bulb is still shinning inside the improvised Faraday cage.  Nice to see... But, then it's running on the pre-charged capacitor, and not any outside influence. So, I wouldn't expect it to go out, when it's inside the microwave cage.
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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #97 on: June 04, 2018, 01:17:18 AM »
Nick all those frequency's you quoted all divide equally by 8 > 8hhz < strange that, whenever I build a Tesla coil and let it self oscillate It always locks on to a multiple of the 8hz, the 13.57 I assume it's an of the shelf available 'crystal' HCu18 device which is almost 1/2 wave that can be pulled into tune, the 432 is a highly comparable energy frequency Bob Beck almost preached about look up Bob to find out more.
re 9hz is the universal energy comparable with the universe Tesla also noticed the connection with 3 and 6 = 9  again any combination of 432 has a connection with this energy field provided it can be divided by 8 and 9. note not all mushrooms are edible but you can learn how to be a real fun guy finding about live on the way.

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« Reply #98 on: June 04, 2018, 02:17:26 AM »
Hi Nick,

Somehow an answer would be needed for you whether using the 1-2 MHz frequencies instead of 13.56 Mhz the Dr Stiffler circuit works or not.  I strongly assume it would also work, it cannot be so much frequency dependent, the only drawback would seem to be the use of higher sized coils i.e. more copper wire to get the 1-2 MHz self resonant frequency.

If your HV coil has around 1.1 MHz self resonant frequency (sorry I did not follow closely the other thread), then that coil would be good to include it into the Doc circuit (which has but one air core coil at around 13.56 MHz).
And you would still need the Kacher driver circuit to get the 15-20 V sine wave at also around the 1.1 MHz frequency, this would drive your Doc circuit which would include your HV coil with its own 1.1 MHz self resonance frequency.

Sorry if I misunderstand you with your available possibilities but these are the minimum "ingredients" for your possible Doc test setup.
This is why I suggested to you earlier to wind a coil for lower than 2 MHz self resonant frequency because using it in the Doc circuit your 2 MHz SG could be used to drive it, albeit depending on its maximum output amplitude. But if it is small for the job, a simple MOSFET amplifier could be built to enhance the some volt SG output to as high as 10 or 20V peak to peak.  I know these are not so simple to build and the outcome may not justify the trouble at all. 

Gyula

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« Reply #99 on: June 04, 2018, 04:13:50 AM »
   Gyula:   My kacher circuit looks like this image below.   The answer to whether this would work along with the Docs loop and standing wave circuit, can only be found out by trying it out.   I can run it on just a few volts, also. Like whatever voltage is needed that will work at. I can also connect it up to a small 5W solar panel, which can give it 20v, and a few hundred mAs input.
 
   My idea with this, is to see if I can tune it into the "spacial resonant" mode. Or, at least try to find out what that may be all about.    First, some images taken without taking the secondary coil of the TC all apart, or adding turns to it.
   The second image below, is a scope shot which was taken just now, of my Kacher free running with no top load at 2MHz.
And may have a range of around from 1MHz to 2MHz, by using ferrite inside the secondary coil.
Of course, changing the input voltage can change the running frequency. So, I'll have to play around with that.  This I believe may be a more powerful way to play in the Docs world of magic. 
  Where HE is a magician, a real one.                                                       
                                                        NickZ
  EDIT:  Dr. Stiffler wanted to get a hold of TinMan, so it someone can put him in touch with the Doc, it would be appreciated.           
    The more people trying out different version of these circuits, the better.             "Variety is the spice of life"

   

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #100 on: June 04, 2018, 12:59:24 PM »
Deleted This ain't no longer the Dr Stiffler as it's turning into another Dally TK thread

Sorry about that.

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« Reply #101 on: June 04, 2018, 02:43:59 PM »
Hi Nick,

Thanks for showing your setup that is fine and surely can provide a nice sine wave between the 1 to 2 MHz range with an adjustable amplitude of your wish.
But I think you still need to wind another single layer coil with roughly similar mechanical sizes the secondary coil now has and when you have this new coil, then you could test a Dr Stiffler setup which has only a single coil i.e. not his presently the latest one which has already two coils in the current loop that includes a single super bright LED too.

I think if you try to see if you can tune your present secondary into a "spatial (spacial?) resonant" mode and do not wish to use an additional coil of similar size, then your setup would differ from that of the Doc setup because of the inductive coupling driving method the Kacher 5 turn primary provides to the secondary now inductively. The Doc drives any of his recent setups by a single wire attached to the 'hot' output of a SG. In your case this can only be achieved by attaching a single wire to the hot (top) end of your secondary coil where a top load is normally attached if needed.

Of course, you can try to use your presently shown secondary coil in the recent Stiffler setup (that needs only one air core coil) and drive the secondary coil inductively from the 5 turn Kacher primary, so no need for a single wire drive as the Doc did.  In this case you need not make another single layer coil of similar size the secondary presently has.  IMHO though, in this case, you alter a little from the original Doc setup by using a different driving method, be aware of it, that is all.

Anyway, this my take on these and it remains to be seen whether a low power oscillator (not neccessarily a Kacher one) with 10-20V peak to peak voltages across its tank coil could or could not drive one of the Doc setups to get similar brightness for the Cree LEDs as he has driven them from an SG.
His SG surely has the usual 50 Ohm output impedance. 20 Vpp is roughly 7 V RMS, so the power level involved at the output of his SG is nearly 1 Watt. But not the 1 W power drives his setup because only the hot output of the SG "sees" the load of his setup, this may be considered as a kind of capacitive load for the SG, and this load should have much less than 1 W power consumption.

Gyula

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #102 on: June 04, 2018, 05:50:02 PM »
Some amazing posts with more details than I can fully appreciate in 1 reading !
Especially your help Gyula.
Things are moving on well with understandings and hopefully, along the way, Dr. Stiffler himself may join in. It's obvious to any reader that this thread has the intent of discovery, not just pure replication.

From witnessing the effects on the table at 1.5V and noting how receiving setups can actually run better by being further away from the Exciter, it's forming a different understanding.
Another understanding is that I think the crystal oscillator circuit has had a huge flaw. The output is supposed to be on the positive, but i've been running an N-channel MOSFET (AO3404, A49T), with which of course the negative signal is switched to 20V - oops
I do have the P-channel equivalents somewhere.
Otherwise, could we be looking at developing a variant of the Doc's SEC range, incorporating some sort of step up booster (JT) and be able to tune the MHz output like a sig gen with no screen ? Something where using variable pots or capacitors produces 20V at 13MHz...plus variances up and down. 

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« Reply #103 on: June 04, 2018, 08:24:45 PM »
  I mentioned this before but I did this basic experiment years ago.  I used both a 1MHZ and a 13MHz crystal oscillator running off a 9v battery to get the signal.  The simple circuit drove a pulse motor off a one wire feed.  The question is how much power was pumping out of that one wire.  I have a scope hooked up to the 1MHz circuit in this video:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4zEpTpiais&t=238s
   
   If I can find that 13MHz crystal I will put the rig together again and take another look.

  ---- Rusty

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« Reply #104 on: June 04, 2018, 10:34:18 PM »
Hi Slider,

Sorry but I do not get this:  "Another understanding is that I think the crystal oscillator circuit has had a huge flaw. The output is supposed to be on the positive, but i've been running an N-channel MOSFET (AO3404, A49T), with which of course the negative signal is switched to 20V - oops"

What is exactly the flaw? 

Which output did you mean: the crystal oscillator or the FET amplifier output? 

Could you make a simple hand drawn schematic on your oscillator and the MOSFET amplifier?

First it would good to build a normal oscillator with the 13.4 MHz crystal.  Then continue from there if an oscillator with a  low output impedance is needed to drive the Doc circuit through the single wire.
Here is a simple crystal oscillator, out of many variations, and it has a high impedance output point due to the 'hot' end of the resonant LC tank circuit.
Gyula

 

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