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Author Topic: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology  (Read 100661 times)

Offline itsu

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #750 on: August 02, 2018, 10:57:33 AM »

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Just guessing,
From what is shown on the scope the diodes remain in conduction. I am not certain but I don't see the presence of any 4-6 nS delay from junction turn off.
Interestingly in the case of  L3 placement concentric to the loop there does appear to be lead lag as shown. The dynamics of the loop might be a circular wave guide
and the frequency drop might be the total reverse diode junction capacitance. Simlar to tuning miniature magnetic transmitting loop. Which makes me think that
a varicap or varactor insertion might show more effect on the frequency and some advantage possibly more interaction with the outer lattice having the original frequency.

Tnx, Joe
 

Thanks uV,

indeed, no sign of the 4-6ns delay from each diode junction turn off.

I got an interesting comment on my YT video about the 25ns delay being the half time of the freqeuncy
used (@ 20MHz, 1 full periode or wave = 50ns).

At the input of the L3 coil at resonance, i have shown that we have voltage and current in phase,
so it seems that behind (output?) this L3 coil the current is 25ns delayed or 180° out of phase compared to the input.

This could mean that the L3 coil causes this 180° current shift as it is a ½ wavelength long (i would have
expected it to be ¼ wavelength).

So again, this could mean that the L3 coil is introducing (injecting) the current into the diode ring
at both sides of the L3 coil (with this 180° phase difference).

Need to find a way to show the wavelength across the L3 coil.......


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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #750 on: August 02, 2018, 10:57:33 AM »

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #751 on: August 02, 2018, 01:55:56 PM »
Hi Itsu,

Would it make sense to check the voltage waveform across some of the diodes, I wonder.  Using the two scope probes in differential mode they may not disturb the operation of the loop too much.

As a variation, perhaps it would not disturb the loop too much either if you monitor the current waveform with the current probe at say near the LED + input, let's consider it as a reference,  and see the voltage waveform across a diode at a time with the two probes in differential mode, moving the two probes from diode to diode.

IF these measurements would "detune" the diode loop the moment the two voltage probes tip are touching the two legs of a diode, then try to readjust the frequency, perhaps this does not fool us much...  Of course if such detuning happens at say 7 diodes later as you move the tips, then do not retune the frequency because it would be a different situation phase wise.

One more observation: You guided through the diode loop wire inside the coil L3. You did this because this was the best arrangement for probing the delay I suppose? If you do not lead the diode loop wire inside L3 but guide it outside of it, question is how the delay measurement would change alongside the loop?  Would this be worth checking?

Gyula

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #752 on: August 02, 2018, 10:27:13 PM »

Gyula,

ok,  i tried to follow your suggestion, but have difficulty in that the differential signals are very noisy.
I trigger on the current probe signal at the plus led entry which is reasonable stable, but then the both
differential signals are showing multiple signals (thick / wavy) see screenshot.
Green is current probe at 1st diode, blue and purple are wavy differential signals across diode 1, red is math
trace blue - purple.

Going up from the first diode at the leds plus side from a minus value (-440mV) up to the diode just before
the L3 coil (7th diode) to a positive value (1.5V).
Remember i have 15 diodes in the ring, 7 before the L3 coil, 1 at the L3 coil (#8) and 7 behind the L3 coil.


Skipping the L3 coil so going over to the 9th diode kills almost the signal and is not retuneable, so
going on the the next (10th) diode shows a similar patern, but now reversed, so from positive 1.5V to
negative 400mV at the last diode (all 180° phase shifted).

Leading the diode ring through the L3 coil or above or below it does not make any difference concerning the
delay times measured.

I had both my video camera batteries drained somehow, so no video now.

Itsu



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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #753 on: August 03, 2018, 05:50:54 AM »
New video from Dr. Stiffler:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VRqf8E8VIM&t=0s

Two Loops now, circuit diagrams,  and a discussion about current in the Loop.

----Lidmotor

PS---Notice that he built up the whole thing on a breadboard.  This is something that he normally never does.

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #754 on: August 03, 2018, 12:47:39 PM »

video's of the measurements across the diodes from my above post untill the battery was drained:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwL60dg5_bc&feature=youtu.be


I have no idea where Dr. Stiffler is leading us to, so i will stop following along with replications for now.


Itsu

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #755 on: August 03, 2018, 04:31:57 PM »
   Itsu:   In his last video, he is showing how we have been missing out on 1/2 of the available juice to power the leds.   He is also showing us how the loop creates a much bigger area for the HV to work on.   Things are getting interesting...  and we're all just learning the ropes, together.
   The Doc is just guessing at what is going on, and could use some help from guys like you, with all the test gear.

    I'm still following along.  Now my wireless field has grown to about 3 or 4 inches away from the L3 coil, sometimes even to 6 inches away from the source, and even further
    I think it IS there that the magic lies
    NO clip leads  below>

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #756 on: August 03, 2018, 07:46:43 PM »
Itsu--  I agree that at this point it is difficult to know which way Doc is going with his experiments.  I found this video dealing with capacitive power transmission using just the signal from a function generator and it may apply to what we are looking at:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YegIW-1hbvQ

NickZ---  It looks like you now have things working right.  Any thoughts about it?  What do you think is happening?

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #757 on: August 03, 2018, 08:48:33 PM »
Hi Itsu,

Many thanks for all the trouble you kindly invested in doing these measurements.
The close field may have influenced the probes near both ends of the L3 coil, that was probably the cause why the amplitudes changed that much, mainly after you reached the other side of L3. 

The latest video from the Doc is interesting in that it turns out it is NOT the loop current which makes the LEDs give light but the self capacity in parallel with them each, forming the individual current loops for each LED. You also measured rather low loop currents with the current probe, around between 1 to 2 mA or so, most of the time and it is a low value to cause brightness you found.

With the use of the breadboard the Doc may wish to indicate there is no need using the big diameter loop (but it needs further refinements like the use of coupling capacitors to separate the two loops galvanically from the common L3 when two chains of diodes feed the common points of two LED boards). 

Gyula

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #758 on: August 03, 2018, 09:29:16 PM »

Thanks guys,

Lidmotor,  yes, nice video, this impedance matching is important, but its hard to find a good match without
very expensive equipment.


Gyula,  no problem, and yes its interesting that he mentions that the self capacitance in parallel with each
led forms a current loop, but no more mentioning of a time delay, and this is where i do have problems with,
this "change of plans" all the time.

Or does it all fit together in the end like a big puzzle?

Itsu

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #759 on: August 03, 2018, 09:41:20 PM »
Probably Dr.Stiffler wants to show the reversibility from an " optical rectenna" device  and then closing the loop.
An electro- optical or opto- electrical carnot cycle arrangement in macro- stage with later morphing MEMS possibiity.
Sincerely

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #760 on: August 03, 2018, 10:25:55 PM »
OK. What's the end of it now? Can we getting the free energy? Can we finding the universe energy secret? so what can we do with SEC? there is no more output than input. the nikola tesla do it a century ago.

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #761 on: August 03, 2018, 10:37:03 PM »
OK. What's the end of it now? Can we getting the free energy? Can we finding the universe energy secret? so what can we do with SEC? there is no more output than input. the nikola tesla do it a century ago.
Go to "Gibbs free energy" and understand what seriously " free energy" in physics means !Then you will find probably yourself in the Angstroem-dimension,where the quantummechanik with hisown laws governate ! " electron tunneling" for example, nano- tube ambient.
Sincerely

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #762 on: August 04, 2018, 12:17:30 AM »
Itsu,  I do hope that this all will fit together sooner or later, depending on the Doc's further willingness to share.

Lidmotor, first thanks for reporting the setup works nicely for you with a Slayer exciter. The video link you gave on capacitive wireless power transfer is interesting but it uses resonance at the receiver side too and this side in the Doc's circuits would be each LED with its capacity feeding the LED current from the potential: here there is no resonance. If you imply to achieve resonance with each LED too, then it may be a good idea and there remains solving the "how to implement it" question.

Nick, nice progress indeed, congratulations. Keep it up.

Erfandl, there is no end of it yet...  and notice nobody claimed free energy in these setups. Sorry if this may disappoint you, I hope not.   8)

Gyula

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #763 on: August 04, 2018, 08:44:34 AM »
The intersection between diode junction and clip lead when impedance is matched. There is a small translation of axis between two torus gives a
bidirectional pathway.

https://i.stack.imgur.com/5dx2H.png

a simple tuner or trans-match gives you a precise impedance match. A ferrite rod is one also.
In a bidierctional system the lattice lines are better to be separated because the intersects are a small distance apart.




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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #764 on: August 04, 2018, 10:59:44 AM »
The "Gibbs (free)eV energy" (orthogonal) Raum=Space and (un-/conditionized) Zeit=Time dimension "Kescher"
                                     eVolt:   ancient Physics terms " erg- and dyn -units".           
                                                                                                                                                                                             a Femto- second spectrum by Angstrom-distances "highway" with particle eV-energy-potential.       
Fishing in these nano-subatomic-world and transforming kinetical to potential energy needs an chain array of Femto-diods, a nantenna structure.                     
                         
                                            Sub-atomic-world relativity                                 

                                     Loosing c velocity and winning m mass                       
                                   Winning m mass and loosing c velocity                           
                                   Loosing m mass and winning c velocity
Sub-elementary enriching and pooring= catalysis tool 
Sallyfield,Le Havre and Wackersdorf-Project in macro-structure or now
opto-electrical rectenna- dimensional in Femto nano-dimension                           
                                    Fusion and Fission reactor morphing/nano-sizing
Alvin Marks ,METHOD OF MAKING LARGE AREA NANOSTRUCTURE.
Read and think about the MEMS productivity dimension changes 1984 :         
      from 500 Angstrom to 10 Angstroem precision                                                                                                       and from100 scm ( 0,00001 sqm area) per day lithografical productionto 100000 scm ( 0,1 sqm area) per second

                                    1 day~ 86340 seconds ( 23 hours and 59 minutes as "day" base)
From EE engineering to NE, Nuk(e-)lear Engineer or Kern-"eV=Kraft"-Physiker               
                                           Nucleus = Kern= Core
                                                             Strom~current
                                     Spannung~ tension        Staerke~ force
                                    Energy is.....  : energy is Volt and  in quantummechanic    e(lectron) Volt
                                          eV enriching or eV pooring is a
                   " element transmutation as storage or deliverer function"~ battery
             Winning as result Quantum- Physics "Raum" or Quantum-Physics "Zeit"
                                        storage power(power= eV energy x time)-density
             Kinetical energy to potential energy to electrical energy and wise/ vice versa
Logo-metrics : if in sub-atomic world energy =eV is, then eA is = ......                 
                       
                                eV and eA moderator/modulator/conductor
 

Making atomic Mass faster= accelerator/ expander or slower/ decelerator/ compressor
By amplitude and frequency modulation : bandgap/ bandwith ( band ~wave)and elemental " Eigenspin" relativityKI-operator-tools : geral and specific Laplace/Fourier and Lorentz Transformation rules and orders

 

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