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Offline AlienGrey

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #450 on: July 03, 2018, 04:59:03 PM »
Hi AG,
If your coil has a self resonance at 1.2 MHz, then a 60 kHz narrow pulse can excite it with the 20th harmonic.  All I meant to vary the frequency of the NE555 timer, if it cannot go higher than 60 kHz, then it can go below 60 kHz, just to verify for yourself that the coil works or does not work at its resonant frequency, driven by a sub harmonic pulse... 

And what has 8 Hz got to do with this all, I wonder?
every Tesla coil i make, once i connect or have an earth near by if I divide the frequency by 8 it always divides equally no remainder, isn't it the Schumann resonant frequency and i appear to get more output with the earth. Wired stuff!

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« Reply #451 on: July 03, 2018, 07:47:18 PM »
Hi AG,
I agree it is a weird stuff.   The Schumann resonance changes day by day, it is not always 7.83 Hz  or  8 Hz  or 11 Hz etc.
There is a site where it is shown logged:https://www.disclosurenews.it/en/schumann-resonance-today-update/   

It is sure more tests are needed. 

every Tesla coil i make, once i connect or have an earth near by if I divide the frequency by 8 it always divides equally no remainder, isn't it the Schumann resonant frequency and i appear to get more output with the earth. Wired stuff!

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #452 on: July 04, 2018, 12:36:10 AM »
Nick - No problem at all !
There is a world of difference between the orange type soft glow and then white light, which these are and then the dazzling break the eyeballs light.
Step by step is the way, learning why some stuff doesn't work as well as what does work and why.

Gyula - Nice site link. I'd heard of it being different nowadays and of the fluctuations. That site is good for understanding it more, with the graphs shown.
Am quite glad I never developed an OU machine based on the Schumann Resonance lol, that's a few hours saved huh. Get the thing to a point of self running, after years and years of study and builds, only for the frequency to move off and do its own thing.

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #453 on: July 04, 2018, 09:25:55 PM »
Hi Slider,
I am afraid it would take many, many hours to develop a device that would convert or sniff energy from Schumann resonance if it is possible...  :D   But then you would not need to tear your hair out due to the fluctuating frequencies because then (once you know the how to) you could surely build several such devices for the changing frequencies or even to track them... so you should not be left without OU.  8)
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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #454 on: July 05, 2018, 09:36:46 PM »

Received my newly ordered transistors and put them in one after the other.
I am not using the virtual ground nor the 5K trimmer pot in the supply line (so 12.5V from a battery).

The 2SD1815S first shows some nice output after retuning.
The 100K trimmer pot across the x-tal was set to 43K for max output.
The transistor temperature went up to 42°C (107°F).
Output signal 20Vpp, collector signal 29Vpp

The 2SC4027S next shows some even better output after retuning.
The 100K trimmer pot across the x-tal was now set to 27.5K for max. output
The transistor temperature went up to 36°C (97°F).
Output signal 28Vpp, collector signal 30Vpp, see screenshot 1

So it seems the 2SC4027 is the better performer.
0-180MHz spectrum with this last transistor, see screenshot 2.
When detuning the variable cap both max plus or max minus, the circuit flips into 3th harmonics operation.

Video here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d55uXINoDjc

Itsu

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« Reply #455 on: July 05, 2018, 11:38:43 PM »
Hi Itsu,

Very good, many thanks for everything.

I suspect the toroidal core starts saturating from the DC component of the collector current.  When you have time please measure the input current taken from the 12V battery.
Core saturation can cause the sine wave distortion we see across the tank (the yellow waveforms). And if you measure the variable capacitor pF value after it is set to the best tuned position, you may find it higher than what would be needed for tuning a 8.2 uH coil to 13.5 MHz, this would be a sure indication of certain core saturation which involves a less than 8.2 uH.

Trying to reduce core saturation, would you make the tap at the 3rd and / or at the 2nd turns instead of the present 4th? I know this may sound strange but I think it would be worth testing. This reduces the Amperturns for the core from the collector current point of view but also reduces the AC impedance for the collector, on which the transistor can amplify.  But the increased step-up transformation in the coil may partially compensate for that.   Try to set similar input current by the 100 kOHm trimmer pot when using the 3rd or 2nd tap, should it change but of course you can set it also for the highest output (maybe with some distortion returning...).

The spectrum of the waveform that drives L3 has many harmonics due to the suspected core saturation,  so energy is distributed rather than confined to the base frequency (13.5 MHz).
Okay on detuning the variable cap and the 40 MHz returns, we need not bother about it,  the loaded and detuned tank will have higher impedance for the collector nearer to 40 MHz than around 13.5 MHz, that is all. 

Two question if I may: Did you remove the capacitor from between the base and emitter?  Is the 22 pF or some other value is still needed between the collector and emitter for the oscillator to work?  (Switch the supply voltage on and of when the 22pF is changed or removed.)

Gyula

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #456 on: July 06, 2018, 12:13:56 AM »
Hi Slider,
I am afraid it would take many, many hours to develop a device that would convert or sniff energy from Schumann resonance if it is possible...  :D   But then you would not need to tear your hair out due to the fluctuating frequencies because then (once you know the how to) you could surely build several such devices for the changing frequencies or even to track them... so you should not be left without OU.  8)
Gyula
Schumann resonance is like pulling the bath plug, How else would you guess the rotation of the earth or the hemisphere we live on ? Whats that got to do with it, my question to you is have you got a Tesla coil, find it's beat with you know what!
AG

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #457 on: July 06, 2018, 11:04:42 AM »

Gyula,

i won't have much time today to play around, but will have later this weekend.

Ok, on the saturation of the toroid, but its not 8.2 uH anymore, as that was with it having 26 turns.
Now with 18 turns it has 4.4 uH if i remember right, i will check that again.


I did forgot to put in the 22pF cap when swapping transistors and remember it did not start oscillating,
but i will recheck that again too.

Itsu

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #458 on: July 06, 2018, 03:22:53 PM »
Hi Itsu,

Yesterday I forgot the reduction in the number of turns from 26 to 18, sorry.  So now the coil may have any value between 4 to 4.4 uH, of course and this involves variable capacitor values of about 31 pF to 35 pF when the core is not starting to saturate.   
No need for any hurry of course.
Thanks,  Gyula

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #459 on: July 06, 2018, 03:31:28 PM »
Schumann resonance is like pulling the bath plug, How else would you guess the rotation of the earth or the hemisphere we live on ? Whats that got to do with it, my question to you is have you got a Tesla coil, find it's beat with you know what!
AG
Hi AG,
Now I do not have a Tesla coil.  Years ago I wound a few air core single layer coils with different OD and lengths and had a grid dip meter available for checking the self resonant frequencies of those coils.  Back then I was not involved in 'free' energy topic.  If you feel like not speaking in riddles please share some more thoughts of yours on what to look, measure etc when someone is about finding a Tesla coil's beat with you know what...  ok?   8)

Thanks,  Gyula

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #460 on: July 06, 2018, 03:37:08 PM »
   Itsu, Gyula:   I finally got the crystal oscillator working on a 13.5MHz crystal, to some degree.   I had not realize that the C1815 has the emitter on the left side, instead of on the right side, until last night, when I checked the data sheet on it.  Anyways, it's firing up now, and lighting a single led on a diode loop, but not any more number of leds. I guess this is normal, or not?  Seams like my L3 may be too long, as the led won't light at the end of the L3, but it will from a tap on the middle of the L3,  more or less.  The battery input voltages are 4v, 8v, or 12v. But, the transistor is getting hot on any of those voltages.
   Itsu: How did you tune your L3 to be in tune to the 13.5 frequency?  My oscillator is now running at that 13.5MHz frequency, using the right crystal from the wireless mouse, but it looks like the L3 needs to be tuned. I also replace the choke with one that has 4 ohms of resistance. I'm using a 22nf cap between the collector/emitter, and a 100nf cap going to the diode loop/led. 
   
   I will probably also have to wind a ferrite coil for the collector, like you are using, otherwise there is not much output. And I don't seem to be getting any wireless effects, as yet, either. Only by direct connection by the diode loop/led.

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« Reply #461 on: July 06, 2018, 04:24:18 PM »
Hi Nick,

Let me ask if you pull the crystal out from its socket, the single LED in the diode loop circuit gets distinguished in that moment? Sorry for this "cross question", the reason is you need to check the 60 Hz field from your mains wiring should not trick you.
It is very good you found the flip of the base and emitter issue by yourself, that is the way to learn from our own mistakes.

Yes your coil intended for L3 has many turns for 13.5 MHz if you used it earlier for around the 1 to 1.5 MHz resonances, driven by the Katcher circuit.  Lidmotor showed how to make a good approximate sized air coil in one of his recent videos.

I assume you wanted to type 22 pF instead of nF you use between the collector and emitter? It should be pF, and can be 25 or 33 pF if you have those at hand and you can place such 22 or 33 pF between the base and emitter too. It would be good if you could monitor the waveform across the collector and negative rail by your oscilloscope.

IF you consider using a toroidal core in the collector, you need to make sure the core is manufactured as a powdered iron RF core like the Amidon type Itsu uses. Ferrite toroids scavenged from say the mains filter part of power supplies simple do not work at 13.5 MHz and also any such toroidal core with unknown ferrite material specifications can only pull out your hair...

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #462 on: July 06, 2018, 05:23:28 PM »
   Itsu, Gyula:   I finally got the crystal oscillator working on a 13.5MHz crystal, to some degree.   I had not realize that the C1815 has the emitter on the left side, instead of on the right side, until last night, when I checked the data sheet on it.  Anyways, it's firing up now, and lighting a single led on a diode loop, but not any more number of leds. I guess this is normal, or not?  Seams like my L3 may be too long, as the led won't light at the end of the L3, but it will from a tap on the middle of the L3,  more or less.  The battery input voltages are 4v, 8v, or 12v. But, the transistor is getting hot on any of those voltages.
  Itsu: How did you tune your L3 to be in tune to the 13.5 frequency? My oscillator is now running at that 13.5MHz frequency, using the right crystal from the wireless mouse, but it looks like the L3 needs to be tuned. I also replace the choke with one that has 4 ohms of resistance. I'm using a 22nf cap between the collector/emitter, and a 100nf cap going to the diode loop/led. 
   
   I will probably also have to wind a ferrite coil for the collector, like you are using, otherwise there is not much output. And I don't seem to be getting any wireless effects, as yet, either. Only by direct connection by the diode loop/led.

Nick,

i used my FG red lead only attached to the L3 free end with the L3 other end connected via a copper tape
taped to the alu back side of my leds strip (240V) with the 2  1N4148 diodes attached across the plus/minus
of this led strip.

With the FG at max. amplitude (20Vpp) i tune around 13Mhz to see where the leds peak.
Then add/remove turns on L3 untill it peaks to 13.56MHz.

As your FG will not get to 13MHz this method will not be useable by you i am afraid.


Itsu

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #463 on: July 06, 2018, 07:15:29 PM »
But it's still applicable ?
If the crystal is at 13.5MHz, then that frequency is known. The L3 won't drive a similarly connected few LED's at its best until it's tuned.
So Nick should connect in a similar way and remove turns until the brightest illumination occurs.

It's a good method, will likely adopt it here too :)

For reference, genuine L3's are the same diameter as solder tubes and 70 turns of 26AWG are on my SEC 18-1's L3.

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« Reply #464 on: July 06, 2018, 08:16:53 PM »
Great progress
« Last Edit: July 07, 2018, 05:38:35 AM by mikrovolt »

 

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