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Author Topic: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology  (Read 52221 times)

Offline Slider2732

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #300 on: June 22, 2018, 06:38:02 AM »
uV - That's a very interesting point about the frequency being halved.
The WTF Exciter stands for What's The Frequency ? a play on letters of course but relating to the thing having no crystal.
So what frequency is it running at ?
It turns out, that it's running at approx 6.67MHz-6.72MHz, as detected with the sniffer coil.
Doubled, that is 13.34MHz to 13.44MHz...very close to the range being looked for.
I may have all that backwards or upside down, but it intrigued when thinking about what you wrote and I wanted to find out the frequency anyway.

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #301 on: June 22, 2018, 09:16:19 AM »
Well there must be some power used by the circuit and one might think the crystal would use some...so try taking the crystal out.
 ;)
That's what I did, along with changing the 1K resistor to a 1000uH axial inductor, following Lidmotor's lead.

Ladies and gents, we have a new Exciter circuit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE4uvw1JBb0
Hi slider thanks for share. is this point in the blow picture must be connected together ?

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #302 on: June 22, 2018, 10:42:24 AM »
Hi All,Very interesting stuff, I'm not sure of the proper term for the load on that coil that Lidmotor moves around and lights the four led's, but thequestion I have is can you make several of those and they will all work at the same intensity?If yes ,can the led's be replaced with a cap?So if you had 20 of those ,could the now charged caps be used to drive the original circuit?Great work thanks for sharing.artv

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« Reply #302 on: June 22, 2018, 10:42:24 AM »
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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #303 on: June 22, 2018, 04:32:01 PM »
erfandl - Yes, that point is connected. I should have put a dot really to denote.

shylo - Most often the answer is yes, to a point. Those 4 may be the max but quite often another could be made and they all have that intensity. Then if a 3rd such load is made, all 12 LED's would dim down by a noticeable amount. Quite often there are demo's of a bank of say 40 LED's all glowing brightly from an Exciter, the thing being that number 41 may begin the dip. It's about the amount of RF being utilised and a maximum draw point that affects all loads.
I like the idea of the caps...unused energies could periodically dump with some kind of zener circuit (as sometimes seen on Bedini SSG's) back to the input. It would then work as a harvester if tuned to that max RF usage point.


I tried the WTF (What's The Frequency ?) Exciter up to 20V last night.
It does best at 12V for noticeable improvements, being able to use the Doc's clip lead technique to gain a large area of field energy.
Today is going to be about changing the 'L3' for better running of the DT mains bulb and looking into how much of a frequency change can be derived from that coil with different turns amounts.
Another will be made as a fresh build, using a replaceable axial inductor too.
Interestingly, at the moment this circuit sits between several other Exciter circuits for initial frequency range. SWES and other pancakes tend to run at about 500kHz, Slayers tend to run at around 2MHz, this one is at 6.7MHz, then we have the Doc's 13.6MHz. 
I also think the LED in the feedback to the Base of the transistor will function similarly to the indicator of field strength LED of Slayer Exciters. At 12V it's always on and might vary with tunings. But one function is that it's protecting the Base with the light output.

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #304 on: June 22, 2018, 08:26:14 PM »
slider, since batteries slowly go down we specify builders many times get hung up on less obvious.
It does demonstrate crystal oscillator used when there is no signal generator around.
Someone building wtf might review feedback so it becomes obvious:
https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/oscillator/colpitts.html

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #305 on: June 23, 2018, 12:42:18 AM »
All----I hooked up my crystal circuit to a scope today to verify that I was at the right frequency and wave form.  I am.  When I get my function generator in the mail it should produce similar results ---I guess.  Hooking that up to the tail end of mt setup should light up some leds. We will see.
  Dr. Stiffler made a comment on my last video and stated that the exact frequency is 13.6 but that I was close enough at 13.56MHz.  My cheap computer O- scope showed a good sine wave signal from 13.4 to 13.7 MHz.  The spectrum analyzer function showed a tall spike at 13.5 which looked very familiar and was what I was hoping for.

   Here is what my scope showed me today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J95knDhEHZI

Cheers,  Lidmotor

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #306 on: June 23, 2018, 01:52:25 AM »
   Lidmotor, Slider, and All.
   Great to see some advancements toward the Docs project on our forum.   Also good to hear the the Doc was able to relay the message about the 13.6MHz (magic frequency).
   I think that you've also verified to some degree, that the exact tuning of both your crystal oscillator frequency (13MHz), as well
as the L3 coil have to be in sink. At the same or a harmonic frequency of the 13.6MHz, or there's no cigar.   
And also that when the circuit is in tune, no ferrite is needed. Nor clip leads to increase gain.
And, any where the circuit is touched with a finger, only dims the output, by possibly changing the running frequencies.
   Anyways, good work Lidmotor, and Slider.
   It's seams best to replicate the Docs circuit ideas,  as closely as possible.
   Hopefully I'll be able to get my act in gear, soon.   
   My main concern is to see what gives with this circuit and its various interactions. And, to see if there's OU, or not.
And to see if a higher input yields a higher output. I imagine the size of these small coils are one limiting factor, but, who knows.   Also, to see if and how this circuit can be looped, to self run. Which is my main aim. As I think that it can be possible to do.
   
   BTW: Lidmotor, would you be so kind as to unwind that SEC L3 coil, and tell us the exact amount of turns, and wire size etz....   Just kidding...    But, I have been looking for that info, for a while now.  So, if there's anyone out there that knows about the L3 coil specs, please let us know.                       
                             NickZ

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #307 on: June 23, 2018, 10:05:57 AM »
before the crystal circuit parts received, I testing the extracted LED from the filamnet light. driving the LED with a super joule thief circuit and a 2.7 volt 500 farad supercap. the LED is running for 30 min
Tomorrow testing with crystal circuit and share the result.  :)

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #308 on: June 23, 2018, 02:48:48 PM »
i'm using a 13.5 mhz crystal (approx) and a smd 1.mh choke, the home made L3 is about 22uh but if i shuve a ferrite bar down it's center
it peeks at 49.1 uh. see pic.

I dont have a HF SG but I do have a 74hc4046 on a bread board it will do 35mhz easy, i have optimized it for 3 to 20 Mhz
I get another peek at just over 6mhz no spike, I use the scope as freq count'r.  8)

Lidmotoor In his video i cant see where he is getting the spike from on his waveform  my Rigol doesn't show it.

PS current draw is 17ma at 10.3 volts, what's all the fun about in this circuit ? free energy, only for the power greed minions !

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #309 on: June 23, 2018, 07:31:10 PM »
I designed a small Colpitts 6.7 Mhz it draws 2 mA.
The intended to be used with 6.7 Mhz crystal then a doubler 2nd stage.


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13.56 MHz and RFID
« Reply #310 on: June 23, 2018, 09:04:49 PM »
All---I am getting a lot of feedback comments on my videos dealing with the 13.56 crystal circuit.  It has led to a spin off research into this frequency,  the effects on different things such as water, and the use of this 13.56 MHz in the RDIF industry.  This might be a grand dead end chase down a rabbit hole but it is very interesting. 
  Slider mentioned the low cost RDIF items available on EBay so I tool a look and found these receiver coils that are tuned for 13.56MHz.  Can we do anything with them?  They don't cost much.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/10pcs-13-56MHZ-Seal-core-chip-FM1108-S50-Read-and-write-chips-15MM-1443A/122163389735?_trkparms=aid%3D444000%26algo%3DSOI.DEFAULT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D44040%26meid%3Dd190a8a914be4dceb252bd42f35325b2%26pid%3D100752%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D122163552094%26itm%3D122163389735&_trksid=p2047675.c100752.m1982

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Offline Slider2732

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #311 on: June 23, 2018, 09:27:53 PM »
Looks like Stefan hasn't solved the images thing, following the board maintenance message...oops.

uV - I believe the Doc started off with a Colpitts, then refined and refined.
My SEC 18-1 should be shipping by Monday and can't wait to see what a real one does !

Lidmoter - Most definitely, in my opinion. For one thing, with a very efficient circuit we could build our
own readers into watches or as a cellphone accessory etc.
There was some discussion a while ago about tracking rodents in a house and a circuit could have a loop
that tagged mice/rats/things would run through. The tags are cheap enough to log each creature and its
movements. Another use would be for a power supply for example. Put a tag on the object to be powered
and fit the circuit to the power supply. As the device is brought close to the power supply, the tag is read
and its number is used to set the output voltage and current.

Related to some of that RFID talk is something within my latest video upload.
A credit card styled Stiffler loop, that has a 360 degree ability for wireless energy pickup.
What i've done is to rework the WTF Exciter to not need the clipleads and now uses 3 coils.
It's edging toward understanding and building something more similar to Dr. Stiffler's circuits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkyUqHY-weM
(5min 23sec running time)


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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #313 on: June 24, 2018, 03:22:41 AM »
I designed a small Colpitts 6.7 Mhz it draws 2 mA.
The intended to be used with 6.7 Mhz crystal then a doubler 2nd stage.

   Mikrovolt:   Did you make the circuit, or are planing to?    I would think that that would be a better way to go, as it has a feed back circuit.
    Let us know how it goes.
                                              NickZ
   

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #314 on: June 24, 2018, 06:02:19 AM »
NickZ, Thanks for the reply.  and everyone I started with this low power version. It is not at a practical oscillator at 2mA. It needs the crystal section
and enough filter to produce a sufficiently clean sine wave. The J310 may be a better choice. The final may need to do more than light a 20 mA led
or higher. i replaced the aluminum blocks with sheet metal same dimensions as it is surface area.

I remind everyone that 13.5 Mhz can cause unwanted noise, the 22 meter club will not appreciate qrm so steering to 13.4 into coax to maintain
a quiescent resonance in circular wave requires finding how many mA and what turn on voltage ?  So an adjustable 13.4 is easier
for a ring coax having a quiescent input, a higher voltage input a port for doing work and circulating with minimal destructive interference.

I will build this board hopefully, it up converts ICL8038 and certain parts of the vlf for sdr rtl.
http://wb9kzy.com/lfconv.htm

 

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