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Author Topic: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology  (Read 130991 times)

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #105 on: June 04, 2018, 11:45:53 PM »
Hi Lidmotor,
You asked in your above post:  "The question is how much power was pumping out of that one wire. "
It is difficult to measure, perhaps with a non inductive precision resistor which inserted in series with the single wire output that then is connected to the 22 uH choke and measure the voltage drop across it by a 2 channel scope with differential measurement technics...  which means the scope probes ground clips are left unconnected and floating and two pins of the two probes are connected to the two legs of the resistor. 
Perhaps a simpler method would be to use a load resistor across the + and -  outputs of the AV plug, also filtered with a puffer capacitor in parallel with it and measure the DC voltage across the resistor, then calculate the DC power. 

I took a snapshot from your video and edited a little to show the a possible measurements of the input DC power to the oscillator.  Unfortunately, the crystal oscillator you use has its own efficiency number, usually it is not specified and the internal circuitry may not be known to have a chance for estimating it.  Normally the usual oscillator circuit types has widely varying efficiency numbers, anything from say 40% to 70%. (Exception can be the so called Class-E type oscillators with over 85-90% efficiency).
With inserting a DC ampermeter into the positive input rail, the effect of connecting or diconnecting the AV plug or say varying the 22 uH choke coil inductance etc could be obseved. The R load resistance could be a few kOhm as a start.
If I may chime in to you, that is.  8)
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Crystal oscillator circuit
« Reply #106 on: June 05, 2018, 05:41:22 AM »
Thanks Gyula,

   That info really helps.  I tried to find my old 13 MHZ crystal oscillator but it is lost somewhere.  I ordered some more but I think I might just build up your simple one transistor 13.4MHz crystal circuit and try that instead. That should get the job done  Your input here was of great help. Thanks again.
 
--Rusty
 

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Re: Crystal oscillator circuit
« Reply #107 on: June 05, 2018, 09:59:43 AM »
Thanks Gyula,

   That info really helps.  I tried to find my old 13 MHZ crystal oscillator but it is lost somewhere.  I ordered some more but I think I might just build up your simple one transistor 13.4MHz crystal circuit and try that instead. That should get the job done  Your input here was of great help. Thanks again.
 
--Rusty
 
Mr Lidmotor, Hi there I don't suppose there is any hope you have a 27mhz xtal or any chance you can try the circuit at 13.5 mhz or 27mhz just a thought ?
I should be getting a 13.5 HC module in a day or two my self but dont have a 1mhz to try it against, will let you all know how it goes when i do.

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #108 on: June 05, 2018, 11:36:14 AM »
The scope shows two different frequencies and amplitudes. The spec analyzer should show 4 side bands.
The addition of a coil loop forms standing waves for an auxiliary light source. Then there are harmonics.

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #109 on: June 05, 2018, 03:45:44 PM »
   Guys:
   Ok, so I took my Kacher's secondary coil (Tesla Coil) and disconnected it from everything, so it's just by itself now.
As I had heard the comment that I was turning this thread into something else.  When I haven't even started, yet.
   
   So, I then connected one end of the Tesla coil to my 2MHz signal generator, the other end of the TC coil to an AV plug, ending the plug with an small simple led bulb.
   So, what do you think happened?  Well, it would not light.  However, by tuning the frequency to around 1.5MHz, and adding a clip lead to one side of the plug, the led fires up.  Only at that frequency though.
  So, my SG does work to light an led, on a single wire test.
    I'll show a little video of that, later on today. As what it's showing was a little surprising, at least to me.
And I think that Slider, with get a kick out of it, for sure.
   
    So, Gyula, I think that I'm ready to continue with some more tests on the Doc's loop, and standing waves, etz...    I just don't know which one of his tests to go for.
    Any suggestions...
    As you know, I'm more interested in finding the anomaly, than just to light some bulbs, using just a tiny bit of power.
 
    If the Doc is listening, please join us, here. As we could easily stray off course, without your help.

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #110 on: June 05, 2018, 04:11:00 PM »
Nick - Now you've started with the clip leads there's no going back  8)
They make a very noticeable difference to any set up that is far stronger than regular wire. Is it the gauge, the metal on the ends ?

Gyula - oh it's the simple thing of the Pierce based oscillator output being switched on the negative rail, when we want the improvised signal generator to switch the positive. The 13.4MHz comes out of the circuit, goes into the MOSFET and its Source is to the negative.
But surely for a sig gen we would want the positive signal being switched on and off at that rate. Or, I should say, make the positive signal be what is created and switched by a MOSFET.
I can't find those P channels....but got side-tracked with family matters yesterday.

Rusty - The scope output did change markedly in that waver vid with the 22uH choke, far more than i'm used to seeing. Normally the wave edges just get rounded off ! 

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #111 on: June 05, 2018, 04:39:31 PM »
   Slider and All:   
   What I'm seeing is that the running frequency of these device tests, will and does vary by quite a bit, when changing loads or moving the hand or body closer or further away from the coil circuit. Or even if you just breath on this thing.   So, I doubt that a steady signal frequency is what's needed to keep up with the changing running frequencies.
If you just plan on tuning the thing to that one frequency 13.4MHz, you may find that you are stuck to just what that single frequency can do. So, a controllable frequency, like when using a signal generator, may be the better way to go, for these types of tests.  So, maybe the thing is to build a circuit that can be controlled, to some degree, if possible, like a SG can do.
Yet, has some kick to it, and some 20v plus out of it, as well.    There are no home made oscillators circuits that I know of, that will work well at 13.4MHz. And can be controlled, also.
Perhaps Gyula can have some advice, there.
   Slider, yes, the clip lead's metal crock ends are what is doing the trick. As compare to touching the plug with your finger, or just a plain wire. So, that makes me think, (or not to think), if the clip lead is acting as a ground, (which I doubt). Since an actual earth ground just kills it.  Or,  more as antenna,  or both.   
   "Which is it"...

   EDIT:  Here's my first attempt at this: Please check my YT video channel, under Nick Zec    Or click here: https://youtu.be/G-qzbiyAVNw
   
« Last Edit: June 05, 2018, 06:44:54 PM by NickZ »

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #112 on: June 05, 2018, 06:48:51 PM »
look up AFC circuits and see if you can add Automatic frequency feed back to stabilize it by tracking the drift.
My bits haven't arrived yet

AG

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #113 on: June 05, 2018, 08:05:28 PM »
AFC circuits are a good idea...there's a wealth of knowledge in RF circuitry as yet not looked at for what it could reveal. In my opinion, answers and furtherment.

Is there a point to making something that includes the Jeanna's Light or perhaps Lasersaber's HF devices ? The current and voltages being far more adjustable than Slayer or Kacher circuits.
We then tune and form them into Exciters with Dr. Stiffler's approaches and the ferrite rods, for finer frequency control and resonance.
There has to be a JT approach in this somewhere rather than $600 of pro equipment...for study purposes that anyone could build.

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #114 on: June 05, 2018, 11:19:34 PM »
Hi Nick,

Well, some notices if I may:

Do not bother on the unstable sine wave seen on the scope in this case, it can be from the lack of the ground connection to the SG and there may be an interference between the mains frequency (that the coil picks up in the room) and the generator output frequency. If you wish, switch off the SG and set the scope to a more sensitive amplitude range and also the timebase to say 10 or 20 ms/DIV. If nothing is seen, touch the probe tip by your finger to see whether any picked up mains amplitude with the mains frequency appears. Perhaps the mains frequency leaks out from the SG via the one wire you drive the coil, not very likely but could be.

If you can see the SG output on the scope (when you check it directly across the SG's BNC output) as a stabil and normal sine wave, no any trembling etc, than that is ok, move on this, do not care. I understand it can be disturbing to see such waveform.

On the (erraticly) changing self resonant frequency of your coil:  This is also normal, unfortunately. The winding first of all needs a stable and rigid bobbin, otherwise you push the cloth on the table etc and it changes. The movement of the yellow clip lead also influences it and whenever you remove any metal 'thing' from the coil end, you should retune the frequency on the SG to find the new resonant frequency. This means that when you check the floating end of the coil with another AV plug, you need to tune the coil again to resonance. Remember how sensitive a Tesla secondary coil is for even a small 'top load' which can be a piece of wire etc, it detunes the coil.

Also, the moment you connect the hot output of the SG to the end of the coil via a single wire, the SRF changes, it also changes when you drive it via your 5 turn primary coil from the Kacher circuit but the oscillator kinda follows the change which may be less with inductive coupling though but the oscillator does not care where it oscillates if it can oscillate.

So far you have nicely found the self resonant frequency (SRF) of your multiturn single layer coil when one of its ends is driven from the SG and its other end is floating and loaded with an AV plug and with a piece of wire via the AV plug.  Please, this is not really what the Doc's setups are about and he showed in the previous 3 or 4 videos...  sorry to notice this, no offense intended.

The use of AV plug(s) in itself may never give ou probably because they cannot pick up all the RF energy the source provides or emits from itself.

And see the Doc's videos what he uses the two diodes for, for instance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTSMNB4h9U8 (do not pay much attention to the voltage or power numbers yet). It is worth rewatching his last 5 videos to understand the setup better.  In the link I refere to he speeks about the diodes role in the first half minute or so.

So I think the replication should then start with obtaining a LED board he shows, his board is made by CREE if I got it correctly and then trying to assemble his setup. 

You can choose to build variable RF oscillators and amplifiers if needed but it involves further resources and knowledge, unfortunately. I apologize again, no offense is meant with this.
See these links for instance what is involved for a good oscillator:
http://www.gqrp.com/ColpittsVFO.pdf or please see Figure 2 in page 3 of this PDF file: http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Technology/tis/info/pdf/8912018.pdf  and in Part 2 you can see a power amplifier in Figure 5 with a cheap IRF510 MOSFET to linearly amplify a 14 MHz speech modulated RF signal: http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Technology/tis/info/pdf/9001028.pdf
Amateur radio fans build such things and lots of other oscillator circuits are described and can be found on the web.

I believe that this should be the route for you only if a CREE LED board (or maybe other make) does not work in the 1-2 MHz range (your SG operates at) like it does in the Doc's setup in the 13.45 or 13.5 MHz frequencies, this is my take on this.

I probably missed it if the Doc specifically referred to this frequency as the only one where the LEDs bright up like he shows in his setups.  Anyone have heard this in one of his earlier videos? please tell.

Gyula

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #115 on: June 05, 2018, 11:54:08 PM »

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Gyula - oh it's the simple thing of the Pierce based oscillator output being switched on the negative rail, when we want the improvised signal generator to switch the positive. The 13.4MHz comes out of the circuit, goes into the MOSFET and its Source is to the negative.
But surely for a sig gen we would want the positive signal being switched on and off at that rate. Or, I should say, make the positive signal be what is created and switched by a MOSFET.
I can't find those P channels....but got side-tracked with family matters yesterday.

....
Hi Slider,

Dr Stiffler mentioned that sine waves are to be used and square waves are out of question in his setups. To produce sine waves, linear (and not switching) circuits should be used. See the links I included in my above post.

If you mean for instance that an N channel MOSFET switches on for a positive waveform (which is higher of course than the threshold gate-source voltage) then it is okay and I understand what you wanted to say above and probably some days ago  but we need to use MOSFETs or bipolar transistors in linear mode to amplify sine waves for the Doc's setup.  An active device biased for its most linear region should be used  i.e. biased for Class-A or Class-AB operation to avoid or reduce distortion. 

Gyula

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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #116 on: June 06, 2018, 06:04:55 AM »
  Gyula:   Thanks for all the info, much appreciated.   I've made another video tonight. Showing the lighting of a cree type led board, as well as the multi color bulb that I showed on the first video. I'll post a link to it tomorrow,as it's late here now.
  I will check all the Docs last few videos along with the latest one he posted today, later on.
 I realize that I've not yet started to actually try to replicate  any of the Docs effects, but I am going in that direction. Just seeing what my SG could do to light some leds which I had on hand, first. But, now I'm ready to start some of his current loop tests, etz...
  Has the Doc actually showed any over unity, himself?  That is almost impossible to prove, or not?   A self runner has to ultimately be on the list.


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Re: Dr Ronald Stiffler SEC technology
« Reply #118 on: June 06, 2018, 03:47:50 PM »
   Guys:   I just uploaded another video, showing the lighting of multiple bulbs, while testing what my signal generator can do to light them.   These are just preliminary tests, to determine how the multiple led bulb will light up from my signal generator's sine wave signal, onto my Tesla coil, through an AV plug, and direct to a modified 5w AC led bulb. No other circuit is connected.
Yet, when turning off the signal generator, 3 leds remain lit, most likely from the stray capacitive AC in my home wiring.
   I will be working on the Stiffler Loop, and standing wave tests, next.
   I just wanted to show that even a very low powered signal generator is enough to light some led bulbs, on just the positive connection, with no negative connection from the SG.  Although this would probably not even happen, to any degree, if it were not by a single wire transfer, through the AV plug.  I will try the capacitive link to the back plate of the led's pcb, (my leds don't have a metal heat sink).  So, I'll have to improvise on a make shift heat sink, and see how that goes. On my next video. 
   In the mean time, here's the video I made last night:   https://youtu.be/hdDkeK291Zo

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« Reply #119 on: June 06, 2018, 05:09:25 PM »
That's quite the neat video Nick...those 3 seem to be completely on their own and unaffected by the sig gen when that is in action.
The others come on, but those 3 don't seem to change, however they do when you touch the heatsink. The way it failed must have isolated them in some way that still allows them to light via your other connections. They should go out when your house mains is off, but still, what is causing quite the decent output for mains leak in the first case ?
I wonder what would happen if you turn off the house mains, but attach an outside ground stake to those 3. Would surrounding houses mains dumps be enough.
If they work outdoors with or without your mains, you would have something of use there perhaps, for putting at both sides of a walkway gate as markers at night, that sort of thing. No batts, runs all the time. Especially useful as a scavenger if your house mains was off and they still worked.


Am building the Colpitts from Gyula's post above, many thanks for that !
Apparently Dr. Stiffler started with a Colpitts that looks to be quite similar (well it would be wouldn't it lol) and then progressed onward to his SEC 18 and beyond.
Am setting mine up for 14MHz, but will report the initial MHz if it runs.
L1 is the inductor from a Dollar Tree 8W LED bulb, which should help if this works out for sourcing stuff. Other components are coming from junker radio type boards.
Oh and how do I pronounce your name if there is a vid, though not wanting to jump the gun. Is it 'Guy oola' ?   

 

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