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Author Topic: Some Bifilar coil experiments  (Read 36440 times)

Offline Belfior

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Re: Some Bifilar coil experiments
« Reply #90 on: December 11, 2017, 12:56:11 PM »
he is a picture. Under the black tape is the primary. 2 coils of magnet wire with open ends are connected to a GDT

Only "circuit" they share is the soft iron core

http://overunity.com/17119/pulling-energy-from-the-ambient-energy-field-using-a-coil-capacitor/dlattach/attach/165402/


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Re: Some Bifilar coil experiments
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Re: Some Bifilar coil experiments
« Reply #91 on: December 12, 2017, 10:05:40 AM »
you still have and inductive loop there. Use 2 magnetic wires. Wind them bifilar.

+ --------->
   <--------- -

So the plus goes to the lamp positive leg and minus goes to lamp negative leg. The arrow end you leave open, so there is no closed circuit. In your image the coil is closed.

Ontop of this you wind a regular primary and pulse it. The lamp lights up, even there is no closed loop.

My own setup was to have a primary over an iron bar. Then I had 2 open ended coils over the same bar and they have a lamp between them. Again the coils that are open ended and the lamp lights up. This is something I was told a cannot exist


In your case some people are saying that you had SOME SORT OF capacitor where open coils are plates? (I fail to see how electric field charges such plates) however in my case, this is not a capacitor, its a loop, electrons cant flow against each other, are they? when LED blinks we have indication of some small current also LED works in any direction so its AC? In your case, if you short your open coils the LED still light's up?

Offline Belfior

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Re: Some Bifilar coil experiments
« Reply #92 on: December 12, 2017, 10:11:59 AM »
I think with open ended bifilar you might be charging the dielectric and not the plates. I know something flows in the open ended coils, because the light is there

I am moving and all my builds are in boxes. Didn't get through all my tests so I did not short the coils. I can continue in January :(

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Re: Some Bifilar coil experiments
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Offline PolaczekCebulaczek

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Re: Some Bifilar coil experiments
« Reply #93 on: December 12, 2017, 10:31:58 AM »
If you connect two coils in the same way as I did for non inductive primary bifilar (forming one coil) you will get the same effect as I do. Current against current.

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Re: Some Bifilar coil experiments
« Reply #94 on: December 13, 2017, 04:52:40 AM »
I think there is a static electricity

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Offline PolaczekCebulaczek

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Re: Some Bifilar coil experiments
« Reply #95 on: December 13, 2017, 07:20:40 AM »
I think that we no longer have spinning electric fields, when both E fields oppose each other they become negative electrostatic field(s) so maybe this negative electrostatic field is interacting with secondary winding neutral wire by pushing electrons upward, this is some strange vibration because meter register 0 voltage or current.

Offline Belfior

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Re: Some Bifilar coil experiments
« Reply #96 on: December 13, 2017, 09:22:48 AM »
Jack Noskills' document describes this. He states that the 2 wires are charged with like charge (similar). He says only coulomb's law applies.

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Offline Jeg

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Re: Some Bifilar coil experiments
« Reply #97 on: December 13, 2017, 01:36:41 PM »
..... so maybe this negative electrostatic field is interacting with secondary winding neutral wire by pushing electrons upward, this is some strange vibration because meter register 0 voltage or current.

We have two wires the one next to the other. If current would go on the same direction to both of the turns (tesla bifilar)  then we have the right conditions to form a capacity and to store charges in between the turns. If current goes like in your drawing then it is like we push a positive current to both of a cap's legs. Perhaps in this situation, displacement current changes also direction and so it charges the dielectric between primary and secondary. Just an assumption though which needs experimentation. 

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Re: Some Bifilar coil experiments
« Reply #98 on: December 13, 2017, 02:00:19 PM »
I have made coils like Jack Noskills' document says, but I can continue testing them in January

He has pretty extensive tests conducted in his documentation. I have witnessed some effects, but not to the extent he is claiming. I suspect he has ferroresonance

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Re: Some Bifilar coil experiments
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Re: Some Bifilar coil experiments
« Reply #99 on: December 14, 2017, 03:28:17 PM »
I just made this and it does not work http://overunity.com/9530/negative-inductor/dlattach/attach/120362/image//  did anyone had any success with this??

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Re: Some Bifilar coil experiments
« Reply #100 on: December 14, 2017, 04:06:33 PM »
I saw a chinese guy having a Tesla coil inside a copper tube. Coils do not touch the tube. He had 2 diodes coming from the tube to a cap and the second leg of the cap going to ground. Diodes were setup like a rectifier so one let through positive and the other let through negative.

When he blasted the spark gap he got 800 volts to that cap.

This seems like his setup, but with coils and not a tube

found it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJUfj53geBo

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Re: Some Bifilar coil experiments
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Offline PolaczekCebulaczek

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Re: Some Bifilar coil experiments
« Reply #101 on: December 14, 2017, 05:13:14 PM »
I saw a chinese guy having a Tesla coil inside a copper tube. Coils do not touch the tube. He had 2 diodes coming from the tube to a cap and the second leg of the cap going to ground. Diodes were setup like a rectifier so one let through positive and the other let through negative.

When he blasted the spark gap he got 800 volts to that cap.

This seems like his setup, but with coils and not a tube

found it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJUfj53geBo

yeah I saw this video long time ago and its quite interesting, capacitors are connected to copper tube through diodes and that's it (cap does not have any ground-earth wire) tesla secondary bottom wire and upper wire goes to earth (is the earth needed for this ?) tube could act as inductor but it should not charge capacitors just like that.

I have notice something similar, I connected one end of flyback HV output to aluminum tube, this tube is inside a plastic tube and I glued some aluminum foil on plastic tube. When i touch a Led to aluminum foil and when second leg of led is connected to earth (or any metal object) Led light's up very brightly, I already burned out 5 leds by playing with this setup, also led does NOT FLICKER and works in any polarity.

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Re: Some Bifilar coil experiments
« Reply #102 on: December 30, 2017, 10:50:02 PM »
I made a video explaining how to easily make a bifilar coil from speaker wire, and how the fields are situated:

https://youtu.be/ZKP9Bgpqa5E

You can stack several of these in parallel, and increase capacitance.



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Re: Some Bifilar coil experiments
« Reply #103 on: January 03, 2018, 02:41:49 PM »
Has anyone experimented with passing permanent magnets
Over a bifilar pancake coil, as generation?

Or is this best done perpendicular?

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Re: Some Bifilar coil experiments
« Reply #104 on: January 03, 2018, 07:26:15 PM »
Has anyone experimented with passing permanent magnets
Over a bifilar pancake coil, as generation?

Or is this best done perpendicular?

Take a look at skycollection's youtube channel, he uses them, as a motor, and as a generator:
https://www.youtube.com/user/skycollection

I've been looking into axial brush less pulsed DC motors. like this one:
https://youtu.be/k-dgtUXvRIs
The coils of these coils, can be made from stacked bifilar coils.
And the back EMF can be reused, aswell as with regenerative braking, the capacitor/batteries can charge again.
If the motor would be high speed, very high speed, It might be possible to run them with resonant coils.
But I think that's not really realistic, as the frequencies (motor speed/resonant frequency) are to far apart.


 

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