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Re: Magnetic, And, Gravity, Motor, Update, And Notes
« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2017, 10:00:31 PM »
  Spring-Powered-Version  Of My  Magnet-Motor-3.5

   In the diagram below of my  Spring-powered-version  of my  Magnet-motor-3.5, it shows the exact spacing between the  Spring-Powered-Components  that would ensure that there is   never   more than  one   Spring-Powered-Component  going  up-hill on  1  down-up  section of the track,  in order to minimize the  up-hill  section as being a sticky-point in the motor,     however,    I'm not sure if that would actually make a difference in terms of the over-all forces occurring in the motor.

    AND ALSO : In the diagram below,  I have connected 2 identical motors with a    connecting-rod,  this further replicates some advantageous forces occurring in my magnet-motor-3.5.
        This connecting-rod  could?  make it possible for one motor to help the other motor get over a  sticky-spot  especially when the first motor has no  spring-powered-component  going  up-hill  on the  relevant  down-up  section of  the  track  ,   this,  and  maybe the  spacing-concept in the previous paragraph,  are very important concepts  translated  from my magnet-motor-3.5  . 
   
   IMPORTANT NOTE :  In a previous post I mentioned that it may be necessary to  add a  2nd-'Identical-Spring'  to each  spring-powered-component   to eliminate the problem of the force from springs decreasing as they expand  :
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I then came to a conclusion that the  Spring-powered-version  'may' have even less chance of functioning than I thought,  because the force from a spring decreases as it expands.
        So, my solution would be to add another  'Identical-Spring' to each  spring-powered-moving-component,  However,  the 2nd-'Identical-Spring'  would  pull  down the  spring-powered-moving-component  while  the  1st-spring  in the spring-powered-moving-component is  pushing  the  spring-powered-moving-component down,  this way,  there will be no loss of spring-force as the spring expands.

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Re: Magnetic, And, Gravity, Motor, Update, And Notes
« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2017, 10:55:59 PM »
    Perpetual-Motion Of Gases Powered Generator

    In gases( and liquids ) the  'atoms / molecules' never stop moving.

    My idea( as far as I know) is that some type of gas would be held( maybe under pressure ) in a container lined with a   'special-material'( something similar to photo-voltaic materials )
     When a gas-atom  collides with the   'special-material' ,  a photon( or part of the electron ) goes into the  'special-material' and causes electrical-current to flow in the 'special-material'.

Note : Obviously the  'special-material'( something similar to photo-voltaic materials ) should not have any protective layer of glass or plastic

    I choose gas rather than liquid since I assume  that gas-atoms collide with things at a much higher velocity than liquid-atoms.
   
    When an  atom-of-gas  bumps into  something,  it is always the electron-shell  of the atom-of-gas  that bumps  into something,  so as far as I know( or guess ) this is  'one'  reason why  electrons are  continuosly  loosing and gaining photons( each time electrons loose or gain photons they go into a higher or lower orbits )

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Re: Magnetic, And, Gravity, Motor, Update, And Notes
« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2017, 04:10:18 AM »
In my theory the overunity can be generated from thermal fluctuations by lowering their dimensionality at some point. If we put a charged capacitor inside the hot gas, then the molecules of gas will hit the capacitor and they will induce voltage spikes into it. This noise can be measured as a common thermoelectric noise within electronic circuits and it indeed decreases with temperature.

The problem is, this noise cannot be rectified and utilized in any way, once the rectifying diode remains as hot, as the gas, the energy of which we are just trying to utilize. Once we will cool this diode, then yes, the noise of diode will be lower than the thermoelectric noise and we would get some voltage on it. The problem is, such an energy production will be just another form of thermoelectric pile, because the diode will gradually heat itself just with the electric noise, which it rectifies. So we must cool it for to keep the production of energy running and this cooling would also require an energy.

In this respect it's interesting, that the we can drain a quite substantial energy flux by cooling surface with cosmic space. Recently such a surface has been constructed by layering of nanosurfaces and it keeps cool itself between 4 and 5 degrees below the surrounding air temperature - which is already temperature difference worth of utilization with classical thermoelectric Peltier cell.

For example, Ann Makosinski did use power converter integrated circuit, LTC3108 for it. The circuit contained FET’s that would oscillate at voltages as low as 20mV. When used with a recommended   transformer, the IC would provide well over 2.5 volts AC. Ann got for 50 mV DC from the Peltiers about 6 mA at 5 Volts AC which was sufficient to light the LED. The result was a bright light at just 5 degree Celcius of Peltier differential.

But such a way of energy generation isn't still free energy in classical sense, overunity the less. We are just draining an energy from accelerated cooling of Earth with cosmic space, i.e. we are still utilizing solar and geothermal energy - just in indirect and diluted way not worth the effort.

In my opinion the situation with utilization of thermoelectric noise will change, if we wouldn't collect voltage fluctuations with 3D resistor, but with some thin narrow 2D plate (graphene layer) or even 1D nanowire (carbon nanotube). The trick here is, once we constrain electrons in their motion in one dimension, then the energy of their vibrations increases in remaining dimensions. The thermoelectric noise at the end of such nanowire will be therefore larger, than at previous 3D case and we can rectify it even with diode at the same temperature. Recently so-called time crystals (a miniature perpetuum mobiles in essence) were observed, which are working on the same principle (constraining motion of charged particles with Penning or magnetic trap).

Because the PN junction of diodes is actually quite narrow, even common LED diode can exhibit a tiny overunity, once it gets polarized in the proper direction. Of course, such an effect is quite weak at the case of single diode - but we can multiply it with usage of graphite nanolayers or nanotubes suspended within charged electret - which is IMO the principle, on which the Steorn Orbo Cube technology was working.

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Re: Magnetic, And, Gravity, Motor, Update, And Notes
« Reply #18 on: April 21, 2017, 06:51:43 PM »
  Below is a diagram of some designs I made which are intended to cause either gas( or liquid ) or aether,  to propel itself in just one direction,  just through the  perpetual-motion characteristic of  gas( or liquid ) molecules/atoms.

  I have some slight reason to think that the point near the triangles marked  'interaction-point',  is the point of  'maximum-pressure-?' where gas/liquid/aether would tend to be ejected   from the triangles, although of course material would equally be drawn in again after ejection

  I also included a half-dome design 

   I assume aether would have no reason to have the perpetual-motion characteristic of  gas( or liquid ) molecules/atoms,  but I included it in this description anyway.
   ( and I assume there's alternate theories that aether is always darting around all over the place )
    For an  aether-version,  the walls of the containment-shape of the device would either be magnets or electromagnets or electrets

   My/these  designs  also have some sort of similarity with the way the surprising electromagnetic-space-drive tested  by the space-agency functions,  keeping in mind the shape used by the  electromagnetic-space-drive ,  although the similarity becomes ambiguous/confusing

   
   UPDATE : I have now attached another diagram to this post,  in which I have optimized the design

                  Also note,   the gas( or liquid ) or aether is intended to flow inside a closed loop for power generation or for whatever else

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Re: Magnetic, And, Gravity, Motor, Update, And Notes
« Reply #19 on: April 21, 2017, 07:31:12 PM »
   Is it correct.  that  if you have a   radio-receiver  that has been tuned to be in resonance  with a   specific-radio-transmitter  that the  radio-receiver  will bend the  radio-waves  trajectories  in order to draw them into the  receiver,   

       In other words,  that the  radio-receiver  will behave like a magnet attracting iron-filings that have been thrown in the air

   that would disprove science much more than magnet-motors

   Is it on youtube etc

    If this is correct, and keeping in mind that different components inside devices like computers transmit at different frequencies and I assume at different  'resonances',  then that could shut down individual components of computers and other devices

    And keep in mind that living things also emit radiation,  do they have a resonance

    What about a hot cup of water,  could you theoretically have a  radiation-receiver that would be in resonance with that hot cup of water,  and could it freeze it

    (  could it refreeze the earths north / south pole,  or freeze volcanic lava,  and if a  tornado has resonance could it turn of a tornado or other weather modification etc ,  clouds/thunderclouds,  deep earth electrical currents  etc)

    In tests to determine the resonance of different objects, the object is either sitting  or held by something,  would that not affect it's resonance,  would it be better to magnetically or diamagnetically or electrostatically levitate it instead ,  although even that could affect it's resonance

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Re: Magnetic, And, Gravity, Motor, Update, And Notes
« Reply #21 on: May 06, 2017, 05:26:58 PM »
Seychelles
is he a member here ?
I see a bit different spelling?

he says this


Thanks. The rotor is made up of 8 x 12pcs. 0.3mm transformator iron sheet,  as you see.
The magnets must be adjusted in strength, so transformer sheet iron does not become saturated, otherwise it will not run.
No, batteries or no electric motor at all.



can you invite him here for a respectful discussion?
he does seem to contradict himself in his introduction?

Thx
Chet


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Re: Magnetic, And, Gravity, Motor, Update, And Notes
« Reply #22 on: May 07, 2017, 07:27:06 PM »
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s18h5X2sDZU&feature=iv&src_vid=71vtcl-G4dw&annotation_id=channel%3A58793cbf-0000-2

  That  magnet-motor  was apparently,  either  built from plans purchased from  gravityflight,   or,   maybe the person who made the video is the person who supplied the plans to gravityflight

  From what I saw on the video.  I wonder if maybe it is  simply  'broken-symmetry-of-sticky-points' and a  propelling-force,   just like many of my  magnet-motor designs

   - Not sure if I'm correct,  I notice that swirls have been cut into the wooden? disc,  to make  flexible/springy arms,  I wonder if they are really necessary
 
   Obviously( or I assume ) this idea of  'broken-symmetry-of-sticky-points' and a  propelling-force,  goes back many years,  although at this exact moment I can only think of one  magnet-motor( famous, and was patented ) which used the concept,  I wonder if there were more and how far back the concept dates

   An impressive video if it's genuine,  it would be great if  someone could  start a thread especially for this  magnet-motor,  since not everyone will check this  thread ,   however,  keep in mind, :
      That magnet-motor  was apparently,  either built from plans purchased from  gravityflight,   or,   maybe the person who made the video is the person who supplied the plans to gravityflight
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  Is it correct.  that  if you have a   radio-receiver  that has been tuned to be in resonance  with a   specific-radio-transmitter  that the  radio-receiver  will bend the  radio-waves  trajectories  in order to draw them into the  receiver,   

  Obviously I was wondering if people have devices that get  free-energy from radio-station-broadcasting-towers etc,  things that get more energy and work further away than  fluorescent-tubes
   (  And I assume this is different to what people who had  high-power-electrical-grid-towers  on their land used to do,   they would bury electrical-cable  around the tower to get  free-energy from the tower via inductance )

   I did not find  any  proven or replicated  experiments to confirm this works( referring to the concept/concepts  on     http://amasci.com/tesla/tesceive.html     )

   If there's any reputable youtube videos ,  please post links

   ( It seems that this is,  or may be how  'Tesla's Power Receiver' worked,  and also,  reading Dollard's work is maybe too difficult for me )

   The link below is the most solid material,  or written in the most understandable terminology,  I have found to date on this concept :

   http://amasci.com/tesla/tesceive.html

   However,  keep in mind, that there seems to be 2 different  concepts in this topic :
     ( 1 ) - You emit a radio-signal( same amplitude and frequency, but offset phase,   as the target  radio-signal), to funnel the  radio-signal from the  target-transmitter into your device to  gain  the energy
     ( 2 ) - Your equipment funnels in the  radio-signal from the  target-transmitter by a method other than 'emitting a radio-signal'  ,   so your device can gain the energy,  I assume this would be the most difficult method 

      Regarding method  '( 2 )' ,  I think the following text in that webpage describes a method to achieve it :
   
http://amasci.com/tesla/tesceive.html
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This is not "radio," where wavelength is the same size as the components. This is "circuitry", where wavelength is huge, and circuits are small, and the antenna operation more resembles "AC wiring" rather than "EM radiation."

     If that  quoted-text  above does not describe a method to achieve method  '( 2 )',  I know that it is in that webpage because I had found it there a week or two ago,  however,  now I can't specifically remember where in that page it describes it.
      -  I thought it was in the  'updates' on that page,  now I can't remember or be sure where on that page it was

     Tesla had stated somewhere  that the  source of the energy from his overunity? invention( was it one of his inventions related to this ) was  not  'electromagnetic' ,   that makes me wonder if the source of the energy from his overunity? invention  was  'gravity',   that his  Solid-State-?  invention converted gravity to electricity,   
        -  Is it possible he visually confirmed this by observing an  anti-gravity-effect

    And, if a  radio-receiver-device was to be  funneling energy from a  radio-transmitter-device as described on  http://amasci.com/tesla/tesceive.html  ,    would there be a physical pulling force between them,    for-example,     if the  receiver-device   and  transmitter  were on free-floating boats,  would  they move toward each other,   either like an artificial version of gravity,    or,   as a possible alternate explanation of how gravity works,   if so,   then could this be an idea for producing  anti-gravity

     

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Re: Magnetic, And, Gravity, Motor, Update, And Notes
« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2017, 08:43:15 PM »
The only thing like that I know from Tesla is his "Magnifying Transmitter" Patent. Professor Turtur tried to replicate it, but stated the gain is in the 1000th of the actual sender energy, and, Turtur has problems with his reputation. But then again, being a professor researching in the OU field does ruin ones reputation quickly anyway.

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Re: Magnetic, And, Gravity, Motor, Update, And Notes
« Reply #24 on: May 09, 2017, 02:57:36 PM »
Seychelles
is he a member here ?
I see a bit different spelling?

he says this


Thanks. The rotor is made up of 8 x 12pcs. 0.3mm transformator iron sheet,  as you see.
The magnets must be adjusted in strength, so transformer sheet iron does not become saturated, otherwise it will not run.
No, batteries or no electric motor at all.



can you invite him here for a respectful discussion?
he does seem to contradict himself in his introduction?

Thx
Chet


Hi Chet,

Larskro wrote this in the videos description box (first thing below video) you need to click show more to see it all.

self running devices are a fake, they CAN´T run. This magnetmotor is a replication of a Gravimag magnetmotor. I want to start a discussion . I am so tired of all the videos that declares - self-running engines, magnetmotors, free energy devices, overunity power, vacuum energy, selfpowering, gravity motors, perpetual motion free energy, etc. - Do not be fooled by these videos. Nothing will work without input of energy. There can never get more energy out than coming in. This is a fact. This is a law of nature. Everlasting machines can never run. Do not waste your time with replications of such things. Sorry for your energy dreams. Free energy comes from the SUN and wind.It is my opinion. Have a good day. Larskro


and in the below comments a youtube user aviatrix2 posted a good explanation of how it works.

He's just spinning the shaft with one finger from below.  Watch him squeeze it tighter when it starts.


A good guess since the shaft is so long

Kind regards

Luc

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Re: Magnetic, And, Gravity, Motor, Update, And Notes
« Reply #25 on: May 09, 2017, 04:15:58 PM »

Hi Chet,

Larskro wrote this in the videos description box (first thing below video) you need to click show more to see it all.

self running devices are a fake, they CAN´T run. This magnetmotor is a replication of a Gravimag magnetmotor. I want to start a discussion . I am so tired of all the videos that declares - self-running engines, magnetmotors, free energy devices, overunity power, vacuum energy, selfpowering, gravity motors, perpetual motion free energy, etc. - Do not be fooled by these videos. Nothing will work without input of energy. There can never get more energy out than coming in. This is a fact. This is a law of nature. Everlasting machines can never run. Do not waste your time with replications of such things. Sorry for your energy dreams. Free energy comes from the SUN and wind.It is my opinion. Have a good day. Larskro


and in the below comments a youtube user aviatrix2 posted a good explanation of how it works.

He's just spinning the shaft with one finger from below.  Watch him squeeze it tighter when it starts.


A good guess since the shaft is so long

Kind regards

Luc

Back when Mh was encouraging others to build fake motors 'for learning purposes' larskro had a simple motor with 2 coils wound on hex bolts mounted in a base with a magnet rotor an led and reed sw.  I was a little intrigued and began questioning him on it. And Mh sure enough joins in. Thats what when i thought maybe Lars was one of his recruits. lol

So larskro finally gave in and said there was a battery inside one of the coils by laying a AAA batt next to the motor.  The battery was too big to fit what was shown. I asked him to show the battery that was actually inside the coils and he would not show it. Then he drew a circuit that couldnt work as a pulse motor. Then he redrew the circuit again and it had issues. ??? :o Then Mh went on to describe the circuit saying that the led was only getting its power from the battery not the coil collapse current as his own drawn circuit wouldnt allow that. Then I freaked. What the heck is really going on here? The guy that built it cant describe the hidden pulse motor circuit, twice,  nor provide an accurate battery size designation yet kept specifying it was a fake. And then Mh is simply stating that the led is being lit by a 1.5v battery of which cannot happen on its own. So it all had me sucked in due to the mass of terrible info given all to the point of me thinking, maybe its a real self runner. Otherwise why all the dodging and misinfo splattered all about.  Mh and I both got put on Mod for the arguments of that time.

I dont care for the attitude of guys like larskro. There is enough fakes out there that nobody needs to do it for years to further beat it into peoples heads. And MH at the time was actually recruiting others to do just that!!  Why why why? ??? I know many people that dont have any technical knowledge, yet they have ideas on free energy. The simplest kinds that we all know dont work so far but they have a general idea. And if there is FE out there, Id rather not have peoples minds deliberately molded to the 'it cant happen' mindset when really we just dont know for sure yet.

Mags

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« Reply #26 on: May 10, 2017, 01:03:04 AM »
  So the

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s18h5X2sDZU&feature=iv&src_vid=71vtcl-G4dw&annotation_id=channel%3A58793cbf-0000-2 

   magnet-motor was not genuine .

   And the last post indicates that  'no'  magnet-motor  has ever worked, which would include my designs.

   Even if someone now posts to say that some magnet-motor's  have worked,  they will have no way of proving it satisfactorily,  so it's probably a waste of time saying either way

   And what about  All-Permanent-Magnet-Full-Levitation, you've got two of the most reputable members on this site stating they achieved it at home,  one even built it as a successfully-functioning-bearing  ,  and yet no one posts any pictures,  could it be for the same reason why no one posts proof of functioning  magnet-motors 
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The only thing like that I know from Tesla is his "Magnifying Transmitter" Patent. Professor Turtur tried to replicate it, but stated the gain is in the 1000th of the actual sender energy, and, Turtur has problems with his reputation. But then again, being a professor researching in the OU field does ruin ones reputation quickly anyway.

   Sudden stupid thought( I have not yet googled or read anything about Tesla's  "Magnifying Transmitter" ) ,  what if the Tesla  "Magnifying Transmitter"  used the earths-atmosphere  or  Aether  as  a  'Secondary-Coil-With-Core'  and the effect is intended to  propogate/increase with distance( for-example,  propogates/increases from air-molecule to air-molecule,  or from aether-particle to aether-particle ),  although I'm guessing that for whatever reasons it 'may-?' not  'all' have worked as well as intended
   -  It could have been a variation of my idea
   -  So it would have been at a very specific and high-frequency( maybe an unusually very high frequency )
   -  Keep in mind,  that it turns out that most-?/many-? things do not have just  'one'  RESONANT frequency,  they have many-? or is it numerous-?,  or maybe within a frequency-range or ranges it might be hard to find frequencies that are not their resonant-frequencies   

   Have you ever thought of moving to some sort of warmer climate,  I know cold weather is great for letting your creativity/inventiveness  run at top-speed because you've got natural-cooling from the environment,  but life is usually so difficulty there you're potential usually goes to waste and amounts to nothing,  in other words you achieve nothing( not just in overunity ),  unless your circumstances/affluence are already higher than average( in which case they are often high achievers )
   (  I tried moving north last year,  but was quickly informed( I can't find a better term at the moment ) that that was not an option for me,  ironically,   if I would have moved to a country north( from where I live now ) at any time prior to  November-2008,   I would have had 'no'  'significant'  problem in living there . 
      A second reason why I tried moving north last year was to see if I could move into more productive/different circumstances,  since reasons why I am so unproductive( low-achiever ) are not what they seem, or a bit too hard to explain or be understood,  even though they are so simple )

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Re: Magnetic, And, Gravity, Motor, Update, And Notes
« Reply #27 on: May 17, 2017, 12:18:35 AM »
   On the subject of antigravity, or propulsion

   Posting my post :

   http://overunity.com/17270/a-free-or-cheapest-method-to-trade-in-stock-forex-or-penny-stock/msg506260/#msg506260

   from the other forum,  onto here :

   Capacitor Propulsion in a high-vacuum :
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGN65lse5yE

    And,  in a lower vacuum :
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hw1N5wNzJk8

    They say it is very difficult/costly to replicate the same vacuum as space, on earth,  so why do they not just test this Capacitor-Propulsion  and others up in space,  maybe because it might work

     The tests above may indicate indicate it is not( or not the same as )  ion drift or ion wind being generated in air

    It may work because of one of the examples in the  Faraday-Paradox( there is a wikipedia page for the  Faraday-Paradox ).
      If  you  spin a   Disc-Shaped-Magnet( near  'nothing' else ),  an  electrical-current  will be generated onto the magnet,  and can be collected from the magnet.
     It works because  the  magnetic-field of the   Disc-Shaped-Magnet  does not spin with the magnet,    in other words the magnetic-field  stays stationary and causes friction( induction ) with the  Disc-shaped-Magnet  which generates an electrical-current onto the magnet.
   So the magnetic-field  is ?  made up of  Aether or stationary-? particles sitting in a grid/lattice pattern in space.

   Therefore it is possible  Capacitor-Propulsion could be pushing against Aether or stationary-? particles sitting in a grid/lattice pattern in space.

   The webpages below do not mention any tests carried out in space
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrogravitics
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biefeld%E2%80%93Brown_effect
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Townsend_Brown

   The following quoted text is from my post :
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     Tesla had stated somewhere  that the  source of the energy from his overunity? invention( was it one of his inventions related to this ) was  not  'electromagnetic' ,   that makes me wonder if the source of the energy from his overunity? invention  was  'gravity',   that his  Solid-State-?  invention converted gravity to electricity,   
        -  Is it possible he visually confirmed this by observing an  anti-gravity-effect

    And, if a  radio-receiver-device was to be  funneling energy from a  radio-transmitter-device as described on  http://amasci.com/tesla/tesceive.html  ,    would there be a physical pulling force between them,    for-example,     if the  receiver-device   and  transmitter  were on free-floating boats,  would  they move toward each other,   either like an artificial version of gravity,    or,   as a possible alternate explanation of how gravity works,   if so,   then could this be an idea for producing  anti-gravity

    That could be another method of anti-gravity,  emitting a field that is in resonance with gravity but somehow out of phase with it,  or should it be completely synchronised/in-phase with gravity

   The following quoted text is from the same post :
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   However,  keep in mind, that there seems to be 2 different  concepts in this topic :
     ( 1 ) - You emit a radio-signal( same amplitude and frequency, but offset phase,   as the target  radio-signal), to funnel the  radio-signal from the  target-transmitter into your device to  gain  the energy
     ( 2 ) - Your equipment funnels in the  radio-signal from the  target-transmitter by a method other than 'emitting a radio-signal'  ,   so your device can gain the energy,  I assume this would be the most difficult method

    So number ( 2 ) method may-? be a method of anti-gravity without needing to emit a field,  and may be be different to  gravity-shielding,  I think it is mentioned on :
    http://amasci.com/tesla/tesceive.html
   
     That  webpage above is where I became aware of number ( 2 ) method, and it makes no reference to gravity,   except for a link  your can find by searching for the  text  "gravitation"

    So I just made some assumptions/theories from that page

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Re: Magnetic, And, Gravity, Motor, Update, And Notes
« Reply #28 on: May 17, 2017, 02:00:46 AM »

     Still on the subject of anti-gravity, or propulsion .

     I had thought that  Tesla had either found a  solid-state  method  way to turn gravity into electricity,  and or that he had discovered an anti-gravity( or propulsion ) effect related to this.
     I was probably, or possibly wrong.

     Tesla famously said somewhere,  that  wireless  waves/transmission were  not  'electromagnetic' ,  rather that it was actually  'sound' in nature.
      (  I wonder if he actually said,  or meant to say,  that it was  'like' 'sound' in nature  )

      Sound-waves are described by science, as mechanical,  a wave made of the compression of the medium in which they travel.

      And yet I remember reading in more than one source,  that some people do actually regard  sound-waves  as being  'part of the electromagnetic-spectrum',  or 'somehow'  'part of the electromagnetic-spectrum'.
       -  I assume that a  sound-wave  does actually carry an amount of energy,  so maybe that is why some people can fit it into their version of the 'electromagnetic-spectrum'.

      And as far as I know, gravity, or  gravitational-waves  are also somehow described by science,   as mechanical,  a wave made of the compression of the medium in which they travel. 
     Obviously I assume it's more complicated than that,  or that a definitive answer is not actually known.
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   Applying the 'broken-symmetry-of-sticky-points' in  my Magnet-Motor-3.5,  to the designs of :
     - The Bessler-Wheel
     - A  Spinning-Generator

    The Bessler-Wheel( using the 'broken-symmetry-of-sticky-points'  principle in  my Magnet-Motor-3.5 )
    -  Note : I am assuming  the  Bessler-Wheel  contained no magnets,  and for this idea I am  'not'  including any magnets.
    -  I wonder if a possibility of how the  Bessler-Wheel  functioned was that it had  more  than  one  'row' of  'identical-devices'  hidden inside  the wheel ,   all  on the same shaft .
       The  result would be that the sticky-points from one  'row'/'wheel'  would  actually  help another   'row'/'wheel'  to get  past it's own sticky-points,  and if you have enough   'rows'/'wheels'  on the same  shaft,  the whole shaft should spin as  freely as if there were  'no'  'rows'/'wheels'  on the  shaft( only the weight/inertia would be noticed ).
       I  'may' see a difference here to my  'Magnet-Motor-3.5' ,  because in this  'Bessler-Wheel'  idea  I  think  I 'may' see that the  propulsion-forces  would be affected by this set-up  where as in my  'Magnet-Motor-3.5' I don't think the propulsion-forces  would be affected .   
       It does have some significant differences to my 'Magnet-Motor-3.5',  so I don't know if this guess of the 'Bessler-Wheel' is valid.

 
    A  Spinning-Generator( using the 'broken-symmetry-of-sticky-points'  principle in  my Magnet-Motor-3.5 )
       - Generators( and electric-motors ) have cogging-torque, sticky-points that can be noticed when the device is not powered.
       - So, my-? idea( I assume commonly known ) is   'simply'  to put multiple generator-wheels  on the same  shaft,  but not having the coils from the different generator-wheels  aligned  with each other,  rather,  that they are completed  UNALIGNED  with each other.
           The  result would be that the sticky-points from one wheel would  actually  help another wheel to get  past it's own sticky-points,  and if you have enough generator-wheels  on the same  shaft,  the whole shaft should spin as  freely as if there are  'no'  generator-wheels  on the  shaft( only the weight/inertia would be noticed ).     

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Re: Magnetic, And, Gravity, Motor, Update, And Notes
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    A  Spinning-Generator( using the 'broken-symmetry-of-sticky-points'  principle in  my Magnet-Motor-3.5 )
       - Generators( and electric-motors ) have cogging-torque, sticky-points that can be noticed when the device is not powered.
       - So, my-? idea( I assume commonly known ) is   'simply'  to put multiple generator-wheels  on the same  shaft,  but not having the coils from the different generator-wheels  aligned  with each other,  rather,  that they are completed  UNALIGNED  with each other.
           The  result would be that the sticky-points from one wheel would  actually  help another wheel to get  past it's own sticky-points,  and if you have enough generator-wheels  on the same  shaft,  the whole shaft should spin as  freely as if there are  'no'  generator-wheels  on the  shaft( only the weight/inertia would be noticed ).   

    Edit : The site went down as I pressed to post this post
              ( I assume people had already thought of this before I posted it )

    I think that some people claim that this theory cannot work,    because when each coil( with or without a core ) is pulsed,    it instantly becomes an   electromagnet,  which temporarily 'sticks' to the magnet( or electromagnet ),   so that this  becomes a secondary set of sticky-points which would cause this theory to fail.
      But I think this theory would / may still overcome this  secondary set of sticky-points( made of electromagnets ),  just the same as the first set of sticky-points.

    I do not actually read posts on this site anymore, so I don't know if anyone has already posted the following idea.

    I have another version of this idea/theory,  and that is that instead of using  coils( with or without cores ),  it would use  Radially-Designed-Electrophorus's  all  offset from each other but sitting on the same shaft.
    This idea would  use  Permanent-Electrets like those used in  microphones.
    (  obviously  electrophorus's  still  have that very strong sticky point when you are lifting the plate up from the electret,   but they  do not additionally  become  electromagnets ,   so,  they only have one set of sticky points.