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Author Topic: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS  (Read 74016 times)

magnetman12003

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Re: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
« Reply #30 on: April 03, 2017, 07:38:23 PM »
Hi all, thanks for the clarification magnetman.
I will be picking up an SCR soon to build this device and couple other parts.
One more thing magnetman, is the neon lighting up fairly constantly, if you can even see it light up that is.
I guess it is, or you would probably see the led bulbs increase and decrease in brightness.
Are the led bulbs lighted in a stable way or can you detect any fluctuations.
Anyway, i will be building this.
peace love light
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Re: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
« Reply #31 on: April 04, 2017, 04:41:05 AM »
Hi magnetman, thanks for the link, i'm going to try the NTE5554, since i can get that locally.
I salvaged a 2SC5359 NPN transistor for the oscillator, taken from a powered subwoofer and i had on hand, a jamicon 150uF-450volt low resistance type capacitor.
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magnetman12003

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Re: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
« Reply #32 on: April 04, 2017, 06:13:43 AM »
Hi magnetman, thanks for the link, i'm going to try the NTE5554, since i can get that locally.
I salvaged a 2SC5359 NPN transistor for the oscillator, taken from a powered subwoofer and i had on hand, a jamicon 150uF-450volt low resistance type capacitor.
peace love light
  As soon as it arrives I have a 72 watt 12 volt wall wart coming I plan to power the 8 seven watt bulbs with.
8x7 = 56 watts.  So that's more than enough power to light all the bulbs.
If I see say 40 watts is being used at that time on my DC wattmeter.  I would have to think that the setup itself is furnishing the rest of the extra power (16watts) to fully light the bulbs at 56 watts??? Does this sound far fetched?

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Re: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
« Reply #33 on: April 04, 2017, 08:08:33 AM »
Hi magnetman, i don't think anything is far fetched anymore.
Bedini was using capacitor dump circuits for good reason.
First off, capacitors capture the radiant the best and capacitor discharges can have out of ordinary effects.
Many of Teslas non ordinary results, were with capacitor discharges and boosted further with quenched spark gaps.
peace love light

Edit: one issue i see with your circuit magnetman, if you use 12 volt input, the full wave bridge allows input source current to flow direct to the led bulbs.
Maybe the capacitor discharge helps to decrease the required current from the input source, since the capacitor will be discharging at a higher voltage.

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« Reply #34 on: April 05, 2017, 05:13:39 AM »
Thanks for the video. So the twisted coil is plastic coated wire. Fotos and Vids of the actual device help a lot.


Now, where to get such a SCR, are they expensive?


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no, it is not expensive, you can search it from www.hkinventory.com

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Re: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
« Reply #35 on: April 05, 2017, 08:59:23 AM »
Hi all, Hi magnetman, i have a question for you.
I noticed you said you cannot see the neon lighting up, that triggers the SCR, are you sure the SCR is not latching ON in your setup.
My build is coming along, i have the oscillator built and running, been testing some led bulbs off the capacitor, still need to get the SCR.
I'm not going to use the full wave bridge, i have 2 ultra fast diodes, one off collector to positive of capacitor and one off positive of primary coil, to negative of capacitor.
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magnetman12003

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Re: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
« Reply #36 on: April 05, 2017, 09:26:09 PM »
Hi all, Hi magnetman, i have a question for you.
I noticed you said you cannot see the neon lighting up, that triggers the SCR, are you sure the SCR is not latching ON in your setup.
My build is coming along, i have the oscillator built and running, been testing some led bulbs off the capacitor, still need to get the SCR.
I'm not going to use the full wave bridge, i have 2 ultra fast diodes, one off collector to positive of capacitor and one off positive of primary coil, to negative of capacitor.
peace love light
  If you have the rectifier and capacitor running  you should notice that you have hi voltage, current now(with no hi frequency) after rectification. I am at a loss just how to explain how the SCR manages to bring down the voltage and current enough so that the bulbs lite without burning up. I know one thing for certain that the Neon bulbs show no visible light when things are going great. If something is wrong one or both neon lights will start glowing??? The greater the glow the worse the problem.  CRAZY!  I have experienced this many times while experimenting but the circuit never burned out.

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Re: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
« Reply #37 on: April 05, 2017, 10:28:45 PM »
Hi magnetman, ok thanks for the good information.
I popped both of my gutted lower voltage led bulbs, forgot to turn off circuit and capacitor had high voltage and poof.
I only have 110 volt led bulbs on hand.
That is why i was wondering if your SCR was latching on, because i think the neon takes like 60 or so volts to conduct current and then turn on the SCR.
If your capacitor is discharging at 60 volts or more, those 12 volt led bulbs of yours should go poof, unless there is some kind of circuit inside your 12 volt led bulb that is preventing that.
I made a video of my build so far.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DT7IzPbGD0&feature=youtu.be
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« Reply #38 on: April 06, 2017, 01:12:40 AM »
Hi magnetman, ok thanks for the good information.
I popped both of my gutted lower voltage led bulbs, forgot to turn off circuit and capacitor had high voltage and poof.
I only have 110 volt led bulbs on hand.
That is why i was wondering if your SCR was latching on, because i think the neon takes like 60 or so volts to conduct current and then turn on the SCR.
If your capacitor is discharging at 60 volts or more, those 12 volt led bulbs of yours should go poof, unless there is some kind of circuit inside your 12 volt led bulb that is preventing that.
I made a video of my build so far.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DT7IzPbGD0&feature=youtu.be
peace love light
A very nice circuit layout!  I hope you get the same results as I did using different components.  I see your air coil is way different than mine.   I had the same effect with pulsing led bulbs as you show in your video.
After I purchased different 120 volts and 12 volt bulbs I found that some don't work at all, some work but  they PULSE, some work only if a magnet is spun by the air core coil, and some 12 volt bulbs work very well without a magnet spin like my videos show.  I spent 3 years experimenting with this circuit and my basement is lit up with 120 volt led bulbs that work down there but would not work in the setup.  I have at the least 200 pounds of experimental parts that I have to sell now. Some are brand new that were never used.  My passion searching for free energy drives my wife crazy.  But always keeps me thinking.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2X-Xenon-White-7W-12V-E27-E26-Home-LED-RV-Boat-Factory-Energy-Saving-Bulb-Lights/281894178226?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D40130%26meid%3D149a459aee004ff58dc8832b39f3c9b0%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26mehot%3Dag%26sd%3D282035345186

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Re: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
« Reply #39 on: April 06, 2017, 05:04:05 AM »
Hi magnetman, thanks for the kind words.
The circuit as shown in the video is using a little less than 1/2 watt, so it takes a little time to charge the cap. up to the forward voltage of that led bulb.
I wired 2 of those 3.7 volt lithium ion cells in series and it can light that particular led bulb very bright, with no gap between flashes, just the flash, fading to almost nothing, then flash.
A eco-smart 6 watt 120 volt led bulb will light bright and constant at 2 watts, though probably 75% of full brightness.
I am trying to figure out why you are not blowing your led bulbs, i see the link you posted says 'constant current drive power', could that mean they have some current regulation in those bulbs and would explain why they are not going poof.
Until i know why, i probably will not by 12 volt led bulbs, yet.
Also, do you realize, with your full wave bridge shown in your circuit, at 12 volt input, your led bulbs are being direct driven by the 12 volt input source.
I should be getting the SCR towards end of week.
peace love light

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Re: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
« Reply #40 on: April 06, 2017, 05:38:38 AM »
Hi magnetman, thanks for the kind words.
The circuit as shown in the video is using a little less than 1/2 watt, so it takes a little time to charge the cap. up to the forward voltage of that led bulb.
I wired 2 of those 3.7 volt lithium ion cells in series and it can light that particular led bulb very bright, with no gap between flashes, just the flash, fading to almost nothing, then flash.
A eco-smart 6 watt 120 volt led bulb will light bright and constant at 2 watts, though probably 75% of full brightness.
I am trying to figure out why you are not blowing your led bulbs, i see the link you posted says 'constant current drive power', could that mean they have some current regulation in those bulbs and would explain why they are not going poof.
Until i know why, i probably will not by 12 volt led bulbs, yet.
Also, do you realize, with your full wave bridge shown in your circuit, at 12 volt input, your led bulbs are being direct driven by the 12 volt input source. 
I should be getting the SCR towards end of week.
peace love light
   The positive terminal on the led bulbs feeds from the high voltage OUTPUT C1 Rectifier/capacitor terminal. Direct driven  ?????

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« Reply #41 on: April 06, 2017, 08:35:44 AM »
Hi magnetman, yes, follow the positive input line and it goes through the top right diode of full wave bridge, direct into led bulb and the negative input is already connected. With 5 volt input, it probably doesn't forward bias the led bulb on, though at 12 volt input, it is direct drive, minus diode voltage drop.
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Re: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
« Reply #42 on: April 07, 2017, 06:59:11 PM »
Hi all, Hi magnetman, i picked up an NTE5554 yesterday and wired it up.
I see the neon lighting and sometimes the neon pulses, goes dim and then bright, can't seem to get it to dump the capacitor, tried a couple different wiring methods.
I will try it out of circuit, with a lower voltage lithium ion to try and trigger it properly, hope i didn't blow it, we shall see.
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« Reply #43 on: April 07, 2017, 10:10:22 PM »
Hi all, Hi magnetman, i picked up an NTE5554 yesterday and wired it up.
I see the neon lighting and sometimes the neon pulses, goes dim and then bright, can't seem to get it to dump the capacitor, tried a couple different wiring methods.
I will try it out of circuit, with a lower voltage lithium ion to try and trigger it properly, hope i didn't blow it, we shall see.
peace love light
  Try adjusting the R2 and R3 pots.  My setup worked best when R2 was fully counter clockwise facing it and R3 was fully clockwise facing it.

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« Reply #44 on: April 07, 2017, 10:52:15 PM »
Hi magnetman, thanks for the reply.
I used the SCR test circuit with 12 volt battery, 12 volt incandescent bulb and 290 ohm resistor to gate, to check and see if it was ok, it is ok.
I then rewired the neon and SCR capacitor dump section, just like the test circuit and still no dumping happening.
I have a different oscillator than yours magnetman, using the meissner oscillator to charge the capacitor.
Still, i do not understand why this is not working, maybe the neon i have is not giving enough current into the gate, compared to the neon bulb you are using.
It's one of those green radio shack neons, with plastic encapsulated.
It's this neon. https://www.radioshack.com/products/radioshack-120-volt-neon-green-lamp-2-pack
peace love light