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hartiberlin

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Re: Mervace Working Magnetic motor using induction feedback
« Reply #120 on: November 24, 2006, 12:24:01 AM »
Now here are also the voltage,  current and coil flux density curves
with the circuits.

Enjoy !


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Re: Mervace Working Magnetic motor using induction feedback
« Reply #121 on: November 24, 2006, 12:34:17 AM »
Correct me if Im wrong but your LED is forward biased like a diode, it is a light emitting diode therefore no current can flow through it in a reverse direction. So if the switch is open and the current/voltage cannot flow through the LED(diode) it has no reverse path? I have been designing and testing electronic circuits for 30 years so Im fairly certain this won't work as depicted.

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Re: Mervace Working Magnetic motor using induction feedback
« Reply #122 on: November 24, 2006, 12:48:23 AM »
Yes, in case 1 there will be no LED light as there will flow no
current through it.

The 2 arroys at the LED are just to tell, that it is a LED and not just
a normal diode... sorry, for the mixup...

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Re: Mervace Working Magnetic motor using induction feedback
« Reply #123 on: November 24, 2006, 12:51:59 AM »
I got it while you were posting my mistake!
But you are not useing the induction current on approach of the magnet, it does no work. So you only get half the output which is barely enough to break even.

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Re: Mervace Working Magnetic motor using induction feedback
« Reply #124 on: November 24, 2006, 12:52:13 AM »
I just received this from Mervyn
(user Merv in this forum)

as I did send him a private email to his email address, which I can see as the admin
of this forum.

I hope he is really the inventor and I have asked him to post this same
message also on the Youtube site under the Mervace user name, so we know it is him.

So it seems the motor is just powered by a nearby CB radio transmitter,
or did I get this wrong ??
He writes:


"Thanks Stefan. The key to the high efficency is in
that adams motor diagram. .I look forward to seeing
some table top examples of my motor.  my first  set
ups showed there was lost energy  from every  aspect
of the design. Set an AM radio next to it. That lead
to the idea of an aerial pick up to try and retrive
some. Have you guys never played with an SWR meter and
a CB radio. You can light a tourch  bulb with a simple
set up like that. Thats when my table top bare bone
motors evolved to the present sculpture and gathered
dust for so long .Peter from Gremany soon worked out
the principals . As we all know here there is no free
energy but lots floating in the local enviroment. Look
at table top Sterling heat engines.I just had to make
massive amounts to produce a very weak responce Of
course my motor has hidden reeds, signal diode etc but
no battery. I will post the details when i get time.
Im amazed this produced such great intrest I really
must get back to work now Regards  
Mervyn."

 --- Stefan Hartmann  wrote:

> Hi Mervace,
> I just posted a better circuit for your motor,
> where you can really power an external device.
>
>
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1720.msg18381.html#msg18381
>
>
> Please can you try this ?
> Many thanks !
>
> Gruss / Best regards, Stefan Hartmann

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Re: Mervace Working Magnetic motor using induction feedback
« Reply #125 on: November 24, 2006, 01:07:31 AM »
Ahh so it is powered by local transmissions.

Ahh well, back to the MEG experiment for me then.
I was looking forward to something that worked.

Regards

Rob

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Re: Mervace Working Magnetic motor using induction feedback
« Reply #126 on: November 24, 2006, 01:10:07 AM »
Hi Stefan,

Is this a disappointment or what?

We have to get back to the good old SMOT, the only viable device so far definitively violating the principle of conservation of energy.

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Re: Mervace Working Magnetic motor using induction feedback
« Reply #127 on: November 24, 2006, 01:35:02 AM »
So it is an adams motor cool, Harti I think were on the same page, I just interpreted adams work differently.
Here is a diagram of what I have done, red arrows are induced current in attraction, blue arrows are full reversed current to a load.

the magnet approaches coil induced current (red)charges small cap full first-then large cap
when switch opens at register small cap is charged to higher voltage from forward current spike
switch closes- small cap discharges first, reversing current through coil to load(blue), large cap discharges reversing current through coil and powering load(blue).
The only difference is that current is flowing on approach and retreat of the magnet, current flow does not imply work unless energy is radiated or forces such as back-drag are incurred.

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Re: Mervace Working Magnetic motor using induction feedback
« Reply #128 on: November 24, 2006, 01:37:55 AM »
@mramos,

Yes you did. Stefan was sceptical too. @peter_schmalenbach rejected it out of hand. Recall, I suggested to put the device in a Faraday cage to avoid this trivial possibility which, unfortunately, turned out to be the case. So, there is some healthy scepticism here.

As for SMOT, as I said many times, it violates the principle even as is, not in a closed loop and that's definitive. This has far-reaching scientific consequences. For practical purposes, however, the excess energy produced in SMOT has to be harnessed in a self-sustaining device probably similar to Torbay motor.

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Re: Mervace Working Magnetic motor using induction feedback
« Reply #129 on: November 24, 2006, 01:49:35 AM »
@All,

Well, good, at least, that the matter was resolved in several days and didn't protract itself for months in these endless threads.

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Re: Mervace Working Magnetic motor using induction feedback
« Reply #130 on: November 24, 2006, 02:01:59 AM »
Does no one get this? a self sustaining motor powered from external environmental sources! You know a man called Tesla reported doing just such a thing, and powering a car with it. And here it is dismissed off the cuff as nothing of importance WOW.
Hey merv I am very interested in this machine and the fact that you have put a lot of time and effort into it. If you could post even simple plans I would be very grateful.
I would love one of these to put on the mantle at home just for me- while a guy's thinking of free energy-that would be cool

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Re: Mervace Working Magnetic motor using induction feedback
« Reply #131 on: November 24, 2006, 02:11:31 AM »
@allcanadian,

Why Tesla? Every radio is such a device. That's not what a self-sustaining device is.

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Re: Mervace Working Magnetic motor using induction feedback
« Reply #132 on: November 24, 2006, 02:21:47 AM »
If this device is powered by random RF energy from other sources you do not have to supply that is very cool.
mramos knows what Im talking about, a conversation piece, something to make a person think--Like this forum for example.
Tune it to 60Hz tweak it a bit, runs anywhere in the house-I think that's cool
Ok it's settled Im building one--- Plans anyone Please

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Re: Mervace Working Magnetic motor using induction feedback
« Reply #133 on: November 24, 2006, 02:35:20 AM »
Perpetuum mobile (here referred to as ?overunity?) isn?t about stealing energy from the nearby power lines or the local radio station.

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Re: Mervace Working Magnetic motor using induction feedback
« Reply #134 on: November 24, 2006, 03:02:11 AM »
omnibus
Im not sure you understand the concept of transmitted power, the amount of power recieved from RF radio stations does not change the transmitted power, Energy from far away power lines is wasted energy it cannot effect the source- the power companies should be lucky we do not sue them for EM pollution. I would love to see that court case-power company sues for theft of power -overturned and forced to pay damages for EM pollution, Billion dollar class action suit ruins power company.