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Author Topic: Tesla - Grebennikov Resonant Inductive Energy Convertor  (Read 3368 times)

Offline geovat

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Tesla - Grebennikov Resonant Inductive Energy Convertor
« on: February 10, 2022, 03:28:24 AM »
I present a device based on a Tesla Mini coil and cavity structures based on Grebennikov's studies.  The device is a prototype of converting the electric field into current, amplifier and a little generator - inverter.  It is not a "free energy" device.  It consists of a capacitor, a group of transformer coils and a Tesla mini coil.  The capacitor is made of drinking straw with two metal terminals, the coils are a bit more complex but their construction is shown in the other videos on my channel.  The device is based on the induction of the electric field and on the oscillation L - C. The oscillation takes place at the frequency of 5-8 MHz depending on the type of power supply.  Using other frequencies can be harmful to your health.  The generated electric field extends a few meters with high values in the air if the assembly is not enclosed in a metal box.  The device does not work properly without a ground connection.  Using coils voltage and capacitance terminals, multiple voltage and current values   can be obtained.  What you see in the pictures is a prototype, an experiment, not a final product.  When I have time, I will also do English subtitle for videos.  The device is capable of supplying both AC and DC power depending on the type of power supply. Other experiment's will follow in the future. I noticed that the AC power supply is much more suitable, the amplification being stronger and the ratio more efficient even at low voltage.  With extremely high electric field values, I will not use a stronger Tesla coil for safety reasons, as these tests are indicated to be performed in the laboratory. Also the 6Mhz current and voltage doesn't directly shock you even is over 1Kv with 10 amps but I don't recommend to stay longer in this current or field directly. Also be aware that by mistake you convert the current, to a lower frequency 80-30hz, that can be fatality. Don't try this kind of device near your tv if it's not shielded well to ground. The construction costs are low and I will build such devices for my neighbors, the power consumption is extremely low ~0.5W at 6V,~3W at 9V, ~6W at 12V.  LC cases are for design only and have no function, the box is an ice box for beer, the initial tests were performed using a cardboard box wrapped in aluminum foil - see the other videos on my channel.  In video i used a couple of conversion coils/transformers but in a older video there is a experiment using a single one like in schematic attached. There is no fixed mode to use this device feel free and use your imagination. The schematic is for a single coild (red/black coil, in image attached here are 5 or 6 coil transformers - double coils. In the latest image is a single coil video experiment name from channel). If you have any questions I will answer here.  I help anyone who wants to build a replica of the device through private message, live video, etc. It is more simply then it's look...
https://i.ibb.co/RN8zywW/coilsschematics.png
Tesla coil used image model:
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/NIcAAOSwuOFgY8JJ/s-l300.jpg

Watch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egJxVfiT3WU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TOwjKLf0WI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8erlKxUhYc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XQdbUHd1ic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwGOIP-ndEA
...more


Offline justawatt

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Re: Tesla - Grebennikov Resonant Inductive Energy Convertor
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2022, 09:46:09 AM »
The device look do able .
Can you make longer video of the device.
I have gone through your video but it is little confusing how the device works

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Re: Tesla - Grebennikov Resonant Inductive Energy Convertor
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2022, 03:14:20 PM »
*haha*
Now i understand why they banned plastic straws.  ;D

Offline e2matrix

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Re: Tesla - Grebennikov Resonant Inductive Energy Convertor
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2022, 09:05:40 PM »
I assume your reference to Grebennikov is about the Grebennikov flying platform.  Very interesting story...

You state the device uses about 0.5 to 6 watts and if I understand right from the videos it seems you are showing 600 volts at about 10 amps output but you say it is not free energy?   6 watts in and 6000 watts out?   I must be misunderstanding something here as that sounds like huge overunity.   What is the purpose of the device?  You mention building them for neighbors so it would seem this is intended to provide power for others.   Can you clarify these questions or misunderstandings?   Thanks for sharing.

Offline geovat

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Re: Tesla - Grebennikov Resonant Inductive Energy Convertor
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2022, 04:34:48 AM »
The device can convert only a small amount of the electric field to electric current. Huge amounts of electromagnetic radiation are lost in my device and this is not god. This is just an experiment starter not a finished job. There are many things to do: current conversion to 50-60Hz, reducing field loose. The bad part is that I can't test in my location using a more powerful coil transistor, may be in the summer outside my home. Another job to do is to connect directly the mini tesla coil to the capacitor and coil transformer, wire based connection and not induction.
@e2matrix there are over 600V but at 6.5Mhz. The HF current is not like 50-60Hz current. Also a part of the induction is electrical field unconverted, only a small part is converted. A researcher studied the ignition of classical filament lamps on the terminals of a sparked HV HF generator, after the spark the circuit was closed with two U-shaped copper bar terminals. The lamp placed on this U-shaped bar lighted only in certain places of the conductors and not on the entire surface of the U-bars. My neighbors ask me to build them this kind of devices for their country houses, external yard led lighting and also for the wild animals that stay away from this field lines, tested with my dog. The main goal of this experiment is researching and observations of cavity structures behavior in the electric fields. The energy generation was not the main goal but a secondary effect. The transformer coils was inserted in experiments after I observed huge fields amps in air on metals do to straws capacitor in circuit and metallic enclosure. I think I will suspend this project this summer. I'm considering donating the device to a academic lab to continue the study in energy.
@justawatt I'm also not sure about what exactly happen there. On my YouTube channel description you have my contact, write me and I will go Live with you on Fb and the device or write here what you want to know even that are multiple videos with multiple images that show all steps and materials.
@skywatcher This was my first thought when I observed the field amplification :) but is working even with bio eco straws, the condition is to have metallic terminals inserted.
If any one has a idea / link how to efficient convert the strong electrical field 6.5Mhz to 50-60Hz current please point it here.
The device was not yet tested with real ground and with a natural water source. Why i say this? Because I observed some unusual behavior with the 18 - 25 Mohm resistance inserted in circuit, and this is the pure water resistance. Also the ground from water pipes or household electrical installation could not be the same with natural ground connection.



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Re: Tesla - Grebennikov Resonant Inductive Energy Convertor
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2022, 11:16:30 PM »
Many asked me to show them how transformer coils L1 and L2 are built so I made a video and the address is below. The process is very simple. First I want to specify a few things:
- many structures resonate connected to a Tesla coil, and these coil-capacitor structures have the property of amplifying voltage and current and generating electric and RF fields. The connection can be by induction by air or by conductor. Each structure has a different property and resonance. The structures interact with the surrounding environment. Structures more or less change their properties depending on the environment if they are not encapsulated, the resonant frequencies change. The polarization effect can be added to the resonance. Power consumption in watts depends on how and where you connect the consumers - the load resistors, sometimes power consumption is zero in these resonant devices. The main resonant frequency is the pulse frequency of the transistor used in the Tesla coil and the LC circuit of the Tesla coil if it exists. If you change the driver of the Tesla coil, you can even make a stone to resonate. Combining with the polarizing effect leads to even more interesting results! The polarizing effect requires HV (high voltage). I recommend an interesting book:
New Sources of Energy: free energy technologies – December 21, 2021 by Aleksandr Frolov
Simple coil video, I use 6 coil like this for the presented device box, connected in parallel: https://youtu.be/JDwdgSRwf1M
Also some users asked me about antigravity research and I want to say one thing about it - those are military research and are still secret and they still protect their secrets and a lot of misinformation and fake video and text materials are injected into public media each year to confuse the audience interested in those subjects. I confirm that the fields forces used in those devices can go beyond this universe and the human that use those device and fields must be part of those fields and have god health and strength for this.

Offline magpwr

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Re: Tesla - Grebennikov Resonant Inductive Energy Convertor
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2022, 09:23:51 AM »
hi geovat,
I spotted a issue within 12seconds the first time i lay my eyes on your video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egJxVfiT3WU&t=8s
I have attached screenshot between 10...11sec upon removing  the multi-meter probe the display on meter still indicates a Amp reading.
I have made the same mistake before and blame it on field effecting the whatever plastic multi-meter.

The Amps is incorrectly measured/invalid.I'm sorry.



Offline geovat

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Re: Tesla - Grebennikov Resonant Inductive Energy Convertor
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2022, 03:58:56 AM »
hi geovat,
I spotted a issue within 12seconds the first time i lay my eyes on your video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egJxVfiT3WU&t=8s
I have attached screenshot between 10...11sec upon removing  the multi-meter probe the display on meter still indicates a Amp reading.
I have made the same mistake before and blame it on field effecting the whatever plastic multi-meter.

The Amps is incorrectly measured/invalid.I'm sorry.

1. The straws capacitor voltage it's almost the same like the voltage showed by the multimeter after removing the probe.
2. The device field is so powerful that even the air voltage and amps are very high, but this is a common to Tesla coils used with ground connection, make a test if you have one. (connect one probe to ground and one closer to the Tesla coil). If I close the box and ground it still remain a voltage in the air but more less.
3. When filmed I check the capacitor voltage and amps to be safe, if the voltage and amps are over 1Kv could become a little dangerous I think to touch the device and wires by hand. It's more an experiment and not a presentation in videos. I still not learned all connection modes of the device because I'm in a lot of experiments and research with various objects and devices, even nanotech.
At video second 29 you can observe the multimeter ground connection of the second probe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egJxVfiT3WU&t=29s
I hope my answer cleared the sequence issue.

Offline sergeyman

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Re: Tesla - Grebennikov Resonant Inductive Energy Convertor
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2022, 08:02:14 AM »
I present a device based on a Tesla Mini coil and cavity structures based on Grebennikov's studies.  The device is a prototype of converting the electric field into current, amplifier and a little generator - inverter.  It is not a "free energy" device.  It consists of a capacitor, a group of transformer coils and a Tesla mini coil.  The capacitor is made of drinking straw with two metal terminals, the coils are a bit more complex but their construction is shown in the other videos on my channel.  The device is based on the induction of the electric field and on the oscillation L - C. The oscillation takes place at the frequency of 5-8 MHz depending on the type of power supply.  Using other frequencies can be harmful to your health.  The generated electric field extends a few meters with high values in the air if the assembly is not enclosed in a metal box.  The device does not work properly without a ground connection.  Using coils voltage and capacitance terminals, multiple voltage and current values   can be obtained.  What you see in the pictures is a prototype, an experiment, not a final product.  When I have time, I will also do English subtitle for videos.  The device is capable of supplying both AC and DC power depending on the type of power supply. Other experiment's will follow in the future. I noticed that the AC power supply is much more suitable, the amplification being stronger and the ratio more efficient even at low voltage.  With extremely high electric field values, I will not use a stronger Tesla coil for safety reasons, as these tests are indicated to be performed in the laboratory. Also the 6Mhz current and voltage doesn't directly shock you even is over 1Kv with 10 amps but I don't recommend to stay longer in this current or field directly. Also be aware that by mistake you convert the current, to a lower frequency 80-30hz, that can be fatality. Don't try this kind of device near your tv if it's not shielded well to ground. The construction costs are low and I will build such devices for my neighbors, the power consumption is extremely low ~0.5W at 6V,~3W at 9V, ~6W at 12V.  LC cases are for design only and have no function, the box is an ice box for beer, the initial tests were performed using a cardboard box wrapped in aluminum foil - see the other videos on my channel.  In video i used a couple of conversion coils/transformers but in a older video there is a experiment using a single one like in schematic attached. There is no fixed mode to use this device feel free and use your imagination. The schematic is for a single coild (red/black coil, in image attached here are 5 or 6 coil transformers - double coils. In the latest image is a single coil video experiment name from channel). If you have any questions I will answer here.  I help anyone who wants to build a replica of the device through private message, live video, etc. It is more simply then it's look...
https://i.ibb.co/RN8zywW/coilsschematics.png
Tesla coil used image model:
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/NIcAAOSwuOFgY8JJ/s-l300.jpg

Watch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egJxVfiT3WU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TOwjKLf0WI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8erlKxUhYc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XQdbUHd1ic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwGOIP-ndEA
...more
Wow 😳 very impressive ! Thanks for sharing 🙏

Offline geovat

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Re: Tesla - Grebennikov Resonant Inductive Energy Convertor
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2022, 08:06:44 AM »
Another experiment research by me in development, strange isn't?  ;)   8)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrBTe0iO8fk
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Offline geovat

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Re: Tesla - Grebennikov Resonant Inductive Energy Convertor
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2022, 05:09:22 AM »
Another version of the generator in first test:
https://youtu.be/bjDbZU-aoXE
More videos on my channel...
Air Transformer:
6 meters cable 2.5 mm Cu solid
100 meters cable 1.5 mm Cu solid
Mini Tesla Coil 6-12V 0.5-7W/h
Analogue Voltmeter ~ ac
Power Supply variable 3 to 12V 0.8mA
One of the transformer coil terminal is grounded
High radiation in air if the case is not grounded but if is grounded the energy power decreasing...

Offline justawatt

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Re: Tesla - Grebennikov Resonant Inductive Energy Convertor
« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2022, 02:55:22 PM »
Could this be what Hubbard coil did.
With your design and combining Hubbard coil design we can get a usable working design.

Since your device is outputting 600 volt ,try to make it 2000 volt range ,send this micro oven transformer 2000 volt side.
So that you can get 220 volt range ac in 1 khz less range.
Since you said your device is working in MHz range.
Stepping it down can be done use micro oven transformer try it and see

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Re: Tesla - Grebennikov Resonant Inductive Energy Convertor
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2022, 09:32:05 AM »
@justawatt  Interesting. Thank you.
I will first try to see how the capacitors react to this system, the classic but industrial or high power capacitors.
Secondly, I will try the version with a microwave oven transformer, but I probably need one with a very large metal core.
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Re: Tesla - Grebennikov Resonant Inductive Energy Convertor
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2022, 06:57:48 PM »
Thanks for reply .
I am also facing this problem i am working with Don smith device.were my voltage is 250khz and 6000 volt range..
If i find any solution i will let you know.


Offline geovat

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Re: Tesla - Grebennikov Resonant Inductive Energy Convertor
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2022, 05:53:50 AM »
Someone that develop and build RF oscillators doesn't think to convert the RF field back to electric current, if he had thought about it, there would have been commercial components to do this. They call it SWR instead and they don't want it because reduce the power in antenna. There are signal diodes 1N5711, 1N34A, (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1rprh6rIT4) but they are made to conduct small currents because they are made for radio and television and not for power supplies. A specially cut solid crystal with a metal junction would solve the problem I think but these things are done in specialized laboratories. There are kV power diodes but they are also built for current and not for RF signal.
Honestly, I haven't heard of transformers that convert the RF field into electricity, but it's worth a try.
When I use my device on 9v or 12v batteries for power supply the AC alternating current component is very weak.
When I use it on 9v or 12v transformer the AC is very powerful but also the DC is high. The induction make the AC to bypass transformer rectifier and to be induced in my device. The good part is that the consumption doesn't increase with this effect but this is not the purpose to drain AC from a transformer.
I will try also to make a resonance circuit before output with industrial huge capacitors ~2 farads to get the f0 = ~60Hz
Some ones will ask: why you wont use a transistor with 60hz frequency in the Tesla Coil, but the magnetic inductance I think doesn't appear in a 60Hz resonant oscillator inductor only with fast pulses that give us higher freq.
There are some conic metallic pyramids with a coil turns on it that authors say it that can convert the field to current, i will search and post it another time. Something similar to http://www.rexresearch.com/grandics/grandics.htm
Also another patent:
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/22/02/bc/722a9e5b36ee7c/WO2015054472A1.pdf
https://patents.google.com/patent/US10389138B2/en
Here is another rectifier:
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20200245440A1/en
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/62/76/bb/f7f6d6c75c4be8/EP3038209B1.pdf
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/ac/e1/de/8ebaf7c4767910/US9692238.pdf
And the patents are many on this matter.
I'm living near a war zone in north romania now and it's gets harder to work in research with RF and other experiments and my time become more limited but I will try to continue this work.
Here an LLC approach https://www.researchgate.net/publication/275041016_Multi-tank_resonant_topologies_as_key_design_factors_for_reliability_improvement_of_power_converter_for_power_energy_applications
Off course there are current commercial current converters but no one will go over 10000Hz.
@justawatt do you have a image / url with your test device? Thanks.