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Author Topic: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency  (Read 376287 times)

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #720 on: April 14, 2017, 05:14:05 PM »

The great TK......


There is a difference between asking a  question and expressing an opinion.  I wasn't asked a question, I was told to put up or shut up.  Me being who I am, I think I'll just keep doing things the way I do them, why, because it annoys the hell out of the authorities.....


I know why...and I rather enjoy the thought of you thinking you know why, and even better, I enjoy the thought of you thinking you know what I am thinking, I smile at the thought of you thinking you know what I know.  Please go right on thinking you know why, continue thinking you know what I am thinking, by all means pretty please keep on thinking you know what I know....see how close that gets you being in the position to demonstrate what I think I know.

Well, from your "answer" I can certainly see one thing: You aren't going to answer the simple question Mile High asked, and  you even seem to be denying that he asked it.  SO either you are being extraordinarily pig-headed, or you simply cannot answer it. 


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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #721 on: April 14, 2017, 05:18:52 PM »
@Tinselkoala,

What's the answer to the question I asked you; How much electrical power would it take to generate 1 Tesla of magnetic flux in an inductor coil of 1 Henry of measured inductance?

That is not the question you asked me.

This is the question you asked me:

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How much magnetic strength will one ampere-hour of current generate in an inductor of one Henry of inductance?

And how about this howler of a statement from you:

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A Kilowatt of power collected in a bank of storage batteries would accumulate into a given charge. An Ampere hour of power fed into an inductor would be stored in a magnetic flux field and add up to a charge.

Two sentences that contain at least four utter misconceptions about battery energy storage, power, current, charge, magnetism, and inductance.

Go google yourself silly, why don't you.

Offline synchro1

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #722 on: April 14, 2017, 05:20:09 PM »
Well, from your "answer" I can certainly see one thing: You aren't going to answer the simple question Mile High asked, and  you even seem to be denying that he asked it.  SO either you are being extraordinarily pig-headed, or you simply cannot answer it.

@Tinselkoala,

You scored an "F" in inductance! Let's move on to your "Spark Gap" failure:

"Tesla experimented with violently abrupt DC electrical discharges and discovered a new force in the process. Only after conducting exhaustive experimental trials for the next three years, did Tesla announce this stupendous discovery in a paper published in December, 1892, entitled "The Dissipation of Electricity". Incredibly, most academicians of the day completely missed the mark in understanding the true significance of his paper".

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #722 on: April 14, 2017, 05:20:09 PM »
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Offline synchro1

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #723 on: April 14, 2017, 05:32:32 PM »
Are you having some kind of meltdown synchro?

An Amp-hour is NOT A MEASURE OF POWER. An Amp-Hour is NOT A MEASURE OF CURRENT.

The Henry and the Tesla are NOT EQUIVALENT, even if you put a minus sign in front of the Henry.

It is very clear that your words mean whatever you think they mean when you use them, not what they ACTUALLY mean. And you change what you think they mean whenever you finally get around to looking up the words you use in some kind of dictionary.

Your own words:

It is utterly impossible to have any kind of rational discussion with you because YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

@Tinselkoala,

"Power in Watts = Current in Amps x Voltage. A battery rated for 100 amp hours will provide 5 amps for 20 hours. If we have a 12 volt battery, we multiply 100 by 12 and determine that the battery will provide 1200 watt hours".

How much power would it take to generate 1 Tesla of magnetic flux in an Inductor coil of 1 Henry?

Hint: Try Citfa's "Bananas are not ape shit theory".

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #724 on: April 14, 2017, 05:52:26 PM »

Hey!! You got it, I am not going to answer!  I am not denying your boy asked me anything, I am telling you that "I can certainly see" from his whatever you wish to call his style of communication with those who are his inferior, that he was making demands as is his forte.  So.... Identify with my position however you choose, I don't owe him a damn thing, you either. 


In case you didn't catch the hint, I have no use for you nor your opinions either.

@Erfinder,

Tinselkoala is like a dog barking at while running after his own tail.

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #724 on: April 14, 2017, 05:52:26 PM »
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Offline synchro1

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #725 on: April 14, 2017, 06:14:26 PM »
@Tinselkoala,

You're not graduating to the next topic area until you answer the question correctly. Here's a clue: The quantity is a "Box Car Unit".

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #726 on: April 14, 2017, 06:21:52 PM »
@Erfinder,

Tinselkoala is like a dog barking at while running after his own tail.

Another insult from the master of insults, preserved for posterity.

We are compiling quite a list of these insults from you. Got any more?

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #726 on: April 14, 2017, 06:21:52 PM »
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #727 on: April 14, 2017, 06:25:19 PM »
@Tinselkoala,

"Power in Watts = Current in Amps x Voltage. A battery rated for 100 amp hours will provide 5 amps for 20 hours. If we have a 12 volt battery, we multiply 100 by 12 and determine that the battery will provide 1200 watt hours".

How much power would it take to generate 1 Tesla of magnetic flux in an Inductor coil of 1 Henry?

Hint: Try Citfa's "Bananas are not ape shit theory".

Now we can start to see the results of your Googling yourself silly. How much "POWER" would it take? What units do you want that in, "Ampere-hours"? "Webers per square furlong"? 

A magnetic field is not "generated" by POWER, it is INDUCED by CURRENT, that is, by AMPS, and in a coil, by AMPS x TURNS.

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #728 on: April 14, 2017, 06:26:53 PM »
@Tinselkoala,

You're not graduating to the next topic area until you answer the question correctly. Here's a clue: The quantity is a "Box Car Unit".

You are a fine one to talk. Your every post contains failures which betray your utter ignorance of your chosen topic. You couldn't teach a dog to bark.

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #728 on: April 14, 2017, 06:26:53 PM »
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #729 on: April 14, 2017, 06:28:56 PM »
Here's an old video of mine. Do you think I "don't understand inductance" ? Fine, take it up with your MIT professors and see what they think about the statements you have made in this thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpJwCNBHUh0

That's all you get for now, Synchro. I'm tired of feeding trolls this morning.

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #730 on: April 14, 2017, 06:40:35 PM »
Now we can start to see the results of your Googling yourself silly. How much "POWER" would it take? What units do you want that in, "Ampere-hours"? "Webers per square furlong"? 

A magnetic field is not "generated" by POWER, it is INDUCED by CURRENT, that is, by AMPS, and in a coil, by AMPS x TURNS.

@Tinselkoala,

You're hatching a "Bottle Neck" in your Cookoo's nest. You choose the unit!

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #730 on: April 14, 2017, 06:40:35 PM »
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Offline MileHigh

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #731 on: April 14, 2017, 06:42:51 PM »
Hey!! You got it, I am not going to answer!  I am not denying your boy asked me anything, I am telling you that "I can certainly see" from his whatever you wish to call his style of communication with those who are his inferior, that he was making demands as is his forte.  So.... Identify with my position however you choose, I don't owe him a damn thing, you either. 

In case you didn't catch the hint, I have no use for you nor your opinions either.

Oh stop it already.  You can't answer a simple bloody question, just do your Batman Riddler game all the time?

I have no use for you

Right, you are the type of guy that goes to the Dollar Store and buys the $11.99 golden plastic royal crown and puts it on the top of the center of your dashboard with double-stick tape so people can see it through your windshield.

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #732 on: April 14, 2017, 06:45:20 PM »
You're hatching a "Bottle Neck" in your Cookoo's nest. You choose the unit!
I think everyone reading would agree that you have gone nuts and what you are doing amounts to troll performance art at this point in time.

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #733 on: April 14, 2017, 06:51:32 PM »
Note the very specific claims in this video by TheOldScientist about the _DC Resistance_  and the _Inductance_ of the single layer Tesla Bifilar solenoid coil he tests in comparison to the single layer monofilar coil with the same amount of wire. And note that he does not allow comments on this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNAZ6heorEc

I'll have more to say about this, once people have watched and commented here about these specific measurements made by TOS.

I don't think anybody has chimed in so I will.  I have previously stated that the clip is pretty awful.  His resistance measurement is wrong and that seems to carry over into the rest of what he does in the clip.  When I watched the clip, YouTube had also linked to your clip where you make the same resistance measurements on a regular and series bifilar coil made with the same amount of wire and as expected, the resistance measurement is the same between the two coils.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fraTy20BAsY

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #734 on: April 14, 2017, 07:11:28 PM »
I think everyone reading would agree that you have gone nuts and what you are doing amounts to troll performance art at this point in time.

@Milehigh,

I challenge you to answer the simple question that has Tinselkoala stumped. I'll repeat it:

What amount of power would be required to generate 1 Tesla of magnetic flux density in an Inductor coil with a measured inductance of 1 Henry?

 

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