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Author Topic: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency  (Read 337331 times)

Offline synchro1

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #660 on: April 12, 2017, 12:53:06 AM »
here is evostars new thread for his builds
http://overunity.com/17222/some-bifilar-coil-experiments/msg503934/#new
and his energetic thread
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/20714-magnetic-field-bifilar-pancake-coil-2.html

Allen
I hope this off topic reply gets removed with your off topic comment
But I see that tossing a line over to quotes from the other forum [MH] always causes these types of issues [tinder for a flame up.

I am glad evostars started another thread for his work ,perhaps he can get some feedback from people who are building and experimenting there ?

and Allen
I finally understand how it could take seven years to get a straight experiment from you on a claim 
I don't think its possible ....ever....?

for clarity I have never exchanged an email or a message with Aaron nor have I asked for you to be moderated here or even discussed you.[why would I ? we have never interacted ..
maybe one unanswered Question to you 5 -6 years ago ??

let experiments rule the day ,and hearsay stay in the wind ...not to be taken as fact
until proven otherwise.

Brutal honestly ,and no wooden Nickels.

I guess you figured out when Grum signs off for the night [moderator] and TinMan and magluvin have fulltime jobs ....

no I suppose you don't care..or respect much here anyway.

you just like fighting !!
seven years you say {with Tinsel and others] ??
never an experiment to define your claims in real time ?

I bet you could drag that out for ever...

Allen
some here who love this place and really try to do experiments actually like the  TOS agreement .
here >>>http://overunity.com/register/#.WO1N8Ll1roY
I am told it will be the guide for posting at this forum ?
and moderation will be by choice [your choice if you break the rules].

do you have a cause you feel passionate about an experiment you simply must share ?

please do

@ramset,

Stay off my back.

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Offline tinman

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #661 on: April 12, 2017, 11:05:11 AM »
What we're dealing with here folks, is three people who never understood what alternating current is: Citfa, Tinman and ramset.

Really

Definition on googles first page at top
Quote: an electric current that reverses its direction many times a second at regular intervals, typically used in power supplies.

Quote wikipedia :Alternating current (AC), is an electric current which periodically reverses direction,

Quote sparkfun.com : Both AC and DC describe types of current flow in a circuit. In direct current (DC), the electric charge (current) only flows in one direction. Electric charge in alternating current (AC), on the other hand, changes direction periodically.

The list go's on.
So yes-some one has some learning to do !synchro!

Maybe we should change your name to !crash box!,as something is not meshing correctly there.


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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #662 on: April 12, 2017, 11:14:20 AM »



For nearly all models of induction cooktops, a cooking vessel must be made of, or contain, a ferromagnetic metal such as cast iron or some stainless steels. However, copper, glass, non magnetic stainless steels, and aluminum vessels can be used if placed on a ferromagnetic disk which functions as a conventional hotplate.  >>>

Are you sure about that MH  :o
Are you saying that eddy currents will not create heat in the highlighted metals?
All will heat,when held near a spinning rotor full of alternating permanent magnets.


Brad

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
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Offline tinman

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #663 on: April 12, 2017, 11:23:45 AM »
Consider the case of the superconductor, where there are no resistive losses. The opposing flow induces an opposing field that is equal to the field of the approaching magnet, and so results in suspension, where the magnet floats over the superconductor, and in fact is "pinned" there even if the setup is inverted so it tries to fall away, but can't. 


Interesting  :D

So-what would happen if an ideal voltage was dropped across an ideal coil,that also had no resistive losses  ;D


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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #664 on: April 12, 2017, 12:04:13 PM »
Are you sure about that MH  :o
Are you saying that eddy currents will not create heat in the highlighted metals?
All will heat,when held near a spinning rotor full of alternating permanent magnets.


Brad

Hi Brad,

I don't know if MileHigh is slightly confused on that or if he just worded it wrong.  But the induction cooker won't work with those metals only because it has a sensor that detects ferrous metals and will not turn on the coil until there is a ferrous metal near the coil.  When several of us were playing with them a few years ago we had to put some ferrous metal near the coil or bypass the sensing circuit in order to turn on the coil.

Have a good day or should I say night in your case.
Carroll

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #665 on: April 12, 2017, 12:08:35 PM »
Are you sure about that MH  :o
Are you saying that eddy currents will not create heat in the highlighted metals?
All will heat,when held near a spinning rotor full of alternating permanent magnets.


Brad

You can actually get non-ferrous metals to levitate above an AC electromagnet, so maybe that's the reason the iron plate is used with those metals. You don't want your morning eggs and bacon flying around the kitchen in your aluminum pan!

(just kidding, the levitation effect is probably not strong enough in the ordinary induction hob, but I have seen fancy induction cooktops advertised that are supposed to levitate the aluminum pans while cooking in them too...)

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #666 on: April 12, 2017, 01:00:23 PM »
Hi Brad,

I don't know if MileHigh is slightly confused on that or if he just worded it wrong.  But the induction cooker won't work with those metals only because it has a sensor that detects ferrous metals and will not turn on the coil until there is a ferrous metal near the coil.  When several of us were playing with them a few years ago we had to put some ferrous metal near the coil or bypass the sensing circuit in order to turn on the coil.

Have a good day or should I say night in your case.
Carroll

I too went out and bought an induction cooker,when Naudin was fooling around with them-the so called OU generator.

I can boil water in a stainless steel pot,that a powerful neo magnet will not stick to,and i can also boil water in my copper camping kettle on top of the induction cooker.
Ali pots work just as well.
So there is the three materials MH listed as !will not work! on an induction cook top,but they all work just fine on mine.

I also had no trouble firing up the copper pancake coil during my experiments.


Brad

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
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Offline citfta

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #667 on: April 12, 2017, 01:15:55 PM »
Soooo, apparently not all induction cookers are the same.  Interesting.

Thanks for the new info Brad.

Take care,
Carroll

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #668 on: April 12, 2017, 01:26:22 PM »
Negative current moving backwards is positive current. A negative Henry is the equivalent of one Tesla of magnetic strength. Both have positive values.

The spark gap collapse is infinite, not the spark. The collapsing magnetic field generates a magnet wave that instantly reaches the most distant parts of the Universe in the Macro space and the infinite reaches of the Quantum-sphere. Tesla invented radio, and his saprk gap generator could send a signal that magnetized metal coherer filings at a distance as Marconi discovered. Tesla believed Gravity and Magnetism were twins like Maxwell electricity and light.

Jerry Bayles evolved a "Unified" field theory with gravity as a cosmological constant rather then light as Einstien with his "Special" theory. The gravity wave is immediate and instantaneous, taking no time to travel at all.

The "Black Hole" at the Galaxy's center has no space but it's huge mass is spinning faster then the speed of light. The gravity spins outward spirally like a nautilus shell describing a proportion known as PHI (1.618).  The mass of the "Spiral Galaxy" and the spatial positions of the inner planets of the solar system sit on the spiral loops. Electron shells follow suit.

I taught G.E.D. to kids with no former schooling and got mutilated here for a jug comparison to a capacitor discharge. Shameless insults were directed at me which would have resulted in a physical beating if made to my face. I demand mutual respect.

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #669 on: April 12, 2017, 02:01:11 PM »
Threatening physical violence is a wonderful way to get respect if you are a nine year old.  You can't demand respect.  You have to earn it.

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #670 on: April 12, 2017, 02:08:09 PM »
Threatening physical violence is a wonderful way to get respect if you are a nine year old.  You can't demand respect.  You have to earn it.

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #671 on: April 12, 2017, 02:37:18 PM »
Remove his comment too!

Tineslekoala, Verpies, Milehigh and these other psychoskeptics can't understand what Jerry's doing here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jEhLrIMlpk

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #672 on: April 12, 2017, 02:38:55 PM »
Threatening physical violence is a wonderful way to get respect if you are a nine year old.  You can't demand respect.  You have to earn it.

Citfa,

You cover your ignorance with ridicule.

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #673 on: April 12, 2017, 02:54:17 PM »
Soooo, apparently not all induction cookers are the same.  Interesting.

Thanks for the new info Brad.

Take care,
Carroll
No problem.

I remember what it was called back then-those experiments.
It was the GENGENE projects.

Brad

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #674 on: April 12, 2017, 02:55:35 PM »
Remove his comment too!

Tineslekoala, Verpies, Milehigh and these other psychoskeptics can't understand what Jerry's doing here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jEhLrIMlpk

Be nice synchro.

How are those experiments coming along-that are to back up your claims?.

Brad

 

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