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Author Topic: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency  (Read 376159 times)

Offline nelsonrochaa

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #390 on: April 06, 2017, 04:51:27 PM »
Most here haven't a clue what you are trying to show.
everything you have shown is not unusual , but one question I do have
you point to a white power box or ?? in you vid with the water on the coil[I think]
I cannot see what it says or reads there ?

maybe that is where your path is obvious ?
and I missed it??

How can we look when we don't even know your claim ??
or have a frame of reference for comparison ??

regarding "Interested Engineers" looking at things as a claim ?
I see this every day ??

the claim would be nice to know ?


respectfully
Chet K


“Most here haven't a clue what you are trying to show.”

Ramset , i’m not try show nothing , and the links that i post was in the context to answer MH .
I already say that i’m not working in Opensource so what is the doubt ?

“everything you have shown is not unusual , but one question I do have
you point to a white power box or ?? in you vid with the water on the coil[I think]
I cannot see what it says or reads there ?”

I use my youtube channel ony to record some of my tests nothing more , like i said before and to answer MH , i’m only able to light neon bulbs in one hand and that is the reason to i provide that links .

“How can we look when we don't even know your claim ??
or have a frame of reference for comparison ??”

I only share “details” with interested people when contact me personaly not widely .
I never make any particular claim, only that pancake coil have special properties , you should read back posts i dont have patiente to write everthing again .

“regarding "Interested Engineers" looking at things as a claim ?
I see this every day ??

the claim would be nice to know ?”

Ramset i work make system’s to industries , and sell “silly” ideas nothing more , and that is my real job that put money in my home , and in that way seems industries have lot of silly people .

Respectfully,


Nelson Rocha

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #391 on: April 06, 2017, 04:56:36 PM »
citfta,

I forget say one thing , if you call Stefan to talk about my behavior, ask him why he included some of my videos in his playlist on this very forum.

respectfully

Nelson Rocha

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #392 on: April 06, 2017, 05:00:39 PM »
Nelson
I have read many posts and the "special properties" mentioned so far ?

don't seem special at all ?

I understand that what you have found to be special is corporate information and not for open source.

I was not asking for the secret ...not at all
I realize that sometimes a simple answer can give too much info in the corporate world.
I respect that.

I respect your business deals and your livelyhood [how you feed your family]
and would hope it continues well for you ,but to add that
I never said "silly" or intimated anything of the sort.

there are millions of dollars spent every minute around the world "hunting for anomalies"
Much of it goes up in smoke
some not so much [I would hope]

have a good Life

respectfully
Chet k

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #392 on: April 06, 2017, 05:00:39 PM »
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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #393 on: April 06, 2017, 05:03:58 PM »
Here's a quote from a PM from citfa dated November 15 2015:   

"If you insist on attacking me after I only tried to help you then I WILL ask that you be banned from this site".

Here's the kind of help he's referring to:

Citfa;

"Negative current is an imaginary fiction".

Offline nelsonrochaa

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #394 on: April 06, 2017, 05:10:00 PM »
Nelson
I have read many posts and the "special properties" mentioned so far ?

don't seem special at all ?

I understand that what you have found to be special is corporate information and not for open source.

I was not asking for the secret ...not at all
I realize that sometimes a simple answer can give too much info in the corporate world.
I respect that.

I respect your business deals and your livelyhood [how you feed your family]
and would hope it continues well for you ,but to add that
I never said "silly" or intimated anything of the sort.

there are millions of dollars spent every minute around the world "hunting for anomalies"
Much of it goes up in smoke
some not so much [I would hope]

have a good Life

respectfully
Chet k

Ramset ,

I appreciate your words sincerely ,
And i did not say that you call "silly" to me , but  sometime some people use much worsts words , and is easy just read the posts and you see clearly what i'm talk about . You should not individualize my words .
And yes i try have a nice live , without hurt anyone , respect other persons and other opinions , and that give me lot of pleasure , have my live in that way .
I wish you all the best .

respectfully


Nelson Rocha

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #394 on: April 06, 2017, 05:10:00 PM »
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Offline ramset

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #395 on: April 06, 2017, 05:12:10 PM »
Allen
actually your behavior here bans you already[if you read terms of service agreement
VERY FIRST SENTENCE

why not just make a simple claim instead of posting movies and other peoples stuff.

Explain this {your interpretation]  Negative Current ??
show it in action [schematic all info to replicate]

?
@ Nelson
I know I never wrote Silly
but what you write about is called "research"

opinions don't matter [members here] in research.,

its just getting people [investors] to pay for it..

                                                                            OR


we do it here open source for free, we do that everyday here already.....

Thx
Chet

Offline nelsonrochaa

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #396 on: April 06, 2017, 05:27:43 PM »

Nelson
I know I never wrote Silly
but what you write about is called "research"

opinions don't matter [members here] in research.,

its just getting people [investors] to pay for it..

Thx
Chet

Ramset ,
The investors only pay if you have something that work , when i talk investors i'm referring to some well-known companies in the market.
Clearly you do not know my work . To me the judges of my work is made by that same companies , and i assure to you that they are much more harder then any of critical  that i receive in this forum . That is the reason to i say that negative opinions from some particular elements, don't affect me . Did i i clarify my point of view ?
Why their opinions , normally in tone of aggression and in a not constructive way,  should be more valid then others from formed Eng of that company ?  They are much more clever then others ? i think not , sorry but is my opinion .

PS- I already share in opensource some of my diagrams did you test it ? Only very few do that , to those we replicate maybe they have a different perspective .

respectfully

Nelson Rocha

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #396 on: April 06, 2017, 05:27:43 PM »
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Offline evostars

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #397 on: April 06, 2017, 05:32:50 PM »
I've been playing with 3 bifilar pancake coils, and with some result. But Im not shure how to interpret this result.
I dont know how to convert the time it takes to charge the capacitors, into a expression of power.

here is some data: 4x 6.3uF capacitors, charged to 900Vdc from 0V in 3 seconds. the question rises, how are the capacitors connected...
at one side, they are all connected together (parallel). But on the otherside, they are paired, and connected to diodes. 2 form the negative, and 2 form the positive.

Anyone got the answer?

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #398 on: April 06, 2017, 05:33:54 PM »

PS- I already share in opensource some of my diagrams did you test it ? Only very few do that , to those we replicate maybe they have a different perspective .

respectfully

Nelson Rocha
Hej i didnt know that! Where can i find these diagrams?

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #398 on: April 06, 2017, 05:33:54 PM »
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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #399 on: April 06, 2017, 05:57:10 PM »
Hej i didnt know that! Where can i find these diagrams?


Dear evostars.

I had a little fun with this one from Nelson.

https://youtu.be/m6lmd0HKxOw

As did a few others, we all found interesting/different results.    ;)

Cheers Graham.

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #400 on: April 06, 2017, 06:28:15 PM »
I have many years sutying the pancake coils and this is my last video about my "multifilar pancake coil", this consist in six groups of pancake coils, one group consist in six pancake coils connected in series, all the groups are isolated from each other and all the pancake coils are in parallel in the same place (in a PBC PIPE) in my experiment i am using my circuit JL94 with two transistors like the drawing diagram that i am presenting in my video, when i move a magnet in the centre the circuit and the coils "enters in self oscillation" and all the groups "induces" the current to the led bulbs with great intensity, i have connected to the circuit only one group of pancake coils, the other groups are "pickup coils".
this is the experiment...: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ln7AEpxMeY
Saludos from mexico, Jorge Rebolledo

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #401 on: April 06, 2017, 06:30:27 PM »
                                                                                                                                                                           
"When the magnet is moved away, current flows in the opposite direction in the solenoid".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HyORmBip-w

Is that your "definition" of Negative Current?

Then you should be happy to admit, finally, that my demonstrations prove that there is NO "NEGATIVE CURRENT" or current flowing in the opposite direction when the magnetic field of a coil collapses when power is interrupted.

If you still refuse to acknowledge that you are wrong, please explain why the Blue LED flashes (showing current definitely flowing in same direction) but the Green LED does not flash (showing that current definitely does NOT flow in the opposite or reversed direction). 

Be sure to include in your explanation the fact that the Green LED actually has a lower Vfwd than the Blue LED, so is more sensitive.


Offline nelsonrochaa

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #402 on: April 06, 2017, 07:27:43 PM »
I have many years sutying the pancake coils and this is my last video about my "multifilar pancake coil", this consist in six groups of pancake coils, one group consist in six pancake coils connected in series, all the groups are isolated from each other and all the pancake coils are in parallel in the same place (in a PBC PIPE) in my experiment i am using my circuit JL94 with two transistors like the drawing diagram that i am presenting in my video, when i move a magnet in the centre the circuit and the coils "enters in self oscillation" and all the groups "induces" the current to the led bulbs with great intensity, i have connected to the circuit only one group of pancake coils, the other groups are "pickup coils".
this is the experiment...: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ln7AEpxMeY
Saludos from mexico, Jorge Rebolledo

Thanks for share Jorge i'm a fan of your work in last years .
All the best to you


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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #403 on: April 06, 2017, 07:33:42 PM »


Dear evostars.

I had a little fun with this one from Nelson.

https://youtu.be/m6lmd0HKxOw

As did a few others, we all found interesting/different results.    ;)

Cheers Graham.

Hi dear Grumage ,
I didn't know that you replicate the circuit , and i thank by that because only very few people test it  . hope you like it and could help you learn some interesting aspects that circuit could show  .

Take careful , to avoid hear that you are using  super capacitors, disguised as normal capacitors, to the oscillations continue after power source be disconnected ;) myself hear thousands times that ;)

cheers

Nelson Rocha

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #404 on: April 06, 2017, 07:51:16 PM »
I think, Nelson Rocha's circuit would deserve it's own thread - if anything else than because it doesn't contain pancake coil (according to its diagram this coil even isn't bifilar) and it's the only selfrunner in the wild and also author communicating at overunity.com forum in this moment (i.e. of much higher importance than some abstract discussion and frog&mice battles about interpretation of well understood phenomena). For me it looks like Joule Thief circuit with ferroresonance overunity.

 

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