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Author Topic: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency  (Read 224597 times)

Offline MileHigh

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #90 on: March 26, 2017, 03:22:07 AM »
That coil is special  for sure  : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGyz31yaCdw
Now make you own interpretation if you could or if you want , and i know for sure that you will say exactly the same thing that you already state before :
 nothing interesting  .
Nelson Rocha

I suppose that you would agree with your commenter on your clip that said this: "we dont see any disturb in the magneticfield ( as both compass shows) as the current flows through the pancake coils, and thats really odd...and amazing too."  Hmm, that sort of sounds like you.

So, why do the compass needles not move when the current is flowing through the pancake coil?

Oh I know the answer, it's because pancake coils have very special and amazing properties and this is an example of the amazing pancake coil's special properties.  Pancake coils don't deflect compass needles and regular coils do deflect compass needles.  Wow!  I can't actually explain why this is happening but I have made an amazing observation that shows how truly amazing the pancake coil really is.

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #91 on: March 26, 2017, 03:56:04 AM »
I suppose that you would agree with your commenter on your clip that said this: "we dont see any disturb in the magneticfield ( as both compass shows) as the current flows through the pancake coils, and thats really odd...and amazing too."  Hmm, that sort of sounds like you.

So, why do the compass needles not move when the current is flowing through the pancake coil?

Oh I know the answer, it's because pancake coils have very special and amazing properties and this is an example of the amazing pancake coil's special properties.  Pancake coils don't deflect compass needles and regular coils do deflect compass needles.  Wow!  I can't actually explain why this is happening but I have made an amazing observation that shows how truly amazing the pancake coil really is.

You are a really sad person .. a sour guy ,  Treat yourself man

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #92 on: March 26, 2017, 04:24:33 AM »
You are a really sad person .. a sour guy ,  Treat yourself man

Nelson Rocha

Stop with your psychobabble nonsense.  I will meet your psychobabble and we will call it a truce.  You and Evostars fit the psychological profile that we all know and have seen many times before.  You think you are doing something special and you are inspired.  However, solid correct information about electronics and your experiments coming from other people is upsetting to you because it goes against your whole belief system.  It upsets you when you are told things that are not what you believed for yourself and they are not what you want to hear.  It really upsets you when you are told things that you don't understand because you were convinced that you knew what you were doing.  So within a short time you reject the discussion and even start to refuse to listen to any new ideas.  You start to cling to your belief system and you want to shut down any conversation.  You stick your head in the sand.  You even get desperate and start to insult the people that you were having a debate with.

We all know how the story ends also.  After a few months of replicating all of the flashing LED experiments and the lighting of CFL experiments and replicating some amazing high voltage spark experiments done with coils, you start to lose enthusiasm and it gets less and less interesting.  You realize that after six months your progress is not going anywhere and you still don't really understand basic electronics.  So you give up and throw your coils into a cardboard box.  Five years later you realize that you still haven't touched the box and you throw it in the garbage.

Time to stick your head in the sand (don't read this):  And when you first connect the wires from your battery to your coil, at that instant of contact the coil acts like an open-circuit.  The coil has infinite resistance when you first make an electrical contact with it.  It's all very interesting, but you don't want to know that, you want to make neons light up in your hand!

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #92 on: March 26, 2017, 04:24:33 AM »
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Offline nelsonrochaa

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #93 on: March 26, 2017, 04:29:33 AM »
Stop with your psychobabble nonsense.  I will meet your psychobabble and we will call it a truce.  You and Evostars fit the psychological profile that we all know and have seen many times before.  You think you are doing something special and you are inspired.  However, solid correct information about electronics and your experiments coming from other people is upsetting to you because it goes against your whole belief system.  It upsets you when you are told things that are not what you believed for yourself and they are not what you want to hear.  It really upsets you when you are told things that you don't understand because you were convinced that you knew what you were doing.  So within a short time you reject the discussion and even start to refuse to listen to any new ideas.  You start to cling to your belief system and you want to shut down any conversation.  You stick your head in the sand.  You even get desperate and start to insult the people that you were having a debate with.

We all know how the story ends also.  After a few months of replicating all of the flashing LED experiments and the lighting of CFL experiments and replicating some amazing high voltage spark experiments done with coils, you start to lose enthusiasm and it gets less and less interesting.  You realize that after six months your progress is not going anywhere and you still don't really understand basic electronics.  So you give up and throw your coils into a cardboard box.  Five years later you realize that you still haven't touched the box and you throw it in the garbage.

Time to stick your head in the sand (don't read this):  And when you first connect the wires from your battery to your coil, at that instant of contact the coil acts like an open-circuit.  The coil has infinite resistance when you first make an electrical contact with it.  It's all very interesting, but you don't want to know that, you want to make neons light up in your hand!

The dogs bark and the caravan passes ...

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #94 on: March 26, 2017, 04:37:34 AM »
The dogs bark and the caravan passes ...

Well that's and interesting proverb that I never heard before.  From Wikipedia it means, "History (or progress) moves ahead, no matter the criticism it may attract."

You should look up Dunning-Kruger effect.

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #94 on: March 26, 2017, 04:37:34 AM »
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Offline nelsonrochaa

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #95 on: March 26, 2017, 05:01:03 AM »
Well that's and interesting proverb that I never heard before.  From Wikipedia it means, "History (or progress) moves ahead, no matter the criticism it may attract."

You should look up Dunning-Kruger effect.

Are you try describe yourself  ? i know what is Dunning-Kruger effect and really apply to you . You make considerations with nonsense , that only make people don't like you .
You talk about flashing LED experiments, lighting of CFL experiments  where you see that ? Did you see that in my videos ?
Have i insult you ? Where i did that ?
Do you know in what i believe ?  I believe that you could not explain most of what you are criticize even reproduce yourself any of that points that we are talking even single one.
I know some people with caustic discourse  in this forum but at least justify their acts showing and justifying through elaborate circuits to correct other people.
But you are not able even to that even so long years of presence in this forum .
Myself did not refuse to hear you , only disagree about your considerations , but you can not accept that .
When you talk about all of us, do you refer to what people?
Are you speaking on behalf of a community? I saw no one here to support your sharing and your speech, but the exact opposite. I think you are alone like most of time a solitaire person that needs to draw the attention of people.
The topic was open by the evostars with the intention of talk about their experiments , and know what is happens ? A guy that normally Is ignored by his arrogance judge without any thing in their hands  make their own judge without any respect .
You should rebirth yourself to be a new person , because life is so short to you throw way in that way .
I'm really sorry by you . really
 
Nelson Rocha

 
 

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #96 on: March 26, 2017, 05:12:40 AM »
Go play with your coils.

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Offline nelsonrochaa

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #97 on: March 26, 2017, 05:14:22 AM »
Go play with your coils.


I will follow you advice my friend ;)  Is nice you give a valid tip !

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #98 on: March 26, 2017, 05:22:27 AM »
I don't think that (pancake) coil is special , i guarantee that is real special because i already test it, otherwise why should i use in my work?

Crickets chirping.  The sound of one hand clapping.

Have a nice day Nelson.

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #99 on: March 26, 2017, 05:24:11 AM »
Crickets chirping.  The sound of one hand clapping.

Have a nice day Nelson.

I appreciate that you calm down . is better to you and everybody .
Have a nice day too MH

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #100 on: March 26, 2017, 02:47:37 PM »
This is FALSE.
How exactly your bifilar coil has been wound? Because what your picture shows apparently isn't the bifilar coil.

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #101 on: March 26, 2017, 02:51:24 PM »
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That coil is special  for sure ...Oh I know the answer, it's because pancake coils have very special and amazing properties and this is an example of the amazing pancake coil's special properties.

As I tried to explain here, the bifilar coils are really special - but not because their magnetic field of their windings compensates and zeroes itself at distance - because this is exactly what we can expect even in Maxwell's theory. It's due to fact, they compress and squeeze the vacuum fluctuations, not just reorient them - so that they radiate scalar A-field. This aspect they have in common with partnered bucking coils, the magnetic field of which also point toward each other. One aspect of this deform of vacuum is, it allows single-wire transfer in form of evanescent waves (which also have scalar component). Even more importantly, it allows the anapole field propagation, which is required for overunity and draining the energy from vacuum into account of variable speed of light and energy propagation. Because only the squeezing of vacuum fluctuations is what changes the permittivity and permeability of the vacuum.

Normally the vacuum fluctuations behave like the pieces of jelly: if we squeeze them, then they expand in another perpendicular direction - which is what initiates the simultaneous propagation of electrostatic and electromagnetic fields, as predicted by Maxwell theory. But this kind of deform is not what actually changes the properties of vacuum fluctuations, because the volume and concentration of vacuum fluctuations doesn't really change during it - they just change their orientation and shape.

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #102 on: March 26, 2017, 03:22:53 PM »
How exactly your bifilar coil has been wound? Because what your picture shows apparently isn't the bifilar coil.

Hi Zephir,

Would you arrange the three pictures vertically please? So the horizontal pixels would go below 1000 and we would need not scroll sideways back and force to read the posts. Your picture now has 1462 horizontal pixels, just place the picturs one under the other and upload again. You can use the 'Modify' icon at the upper right hand side of your post  to access your picture.

Thanks, Gyula

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #103 on: March 26, 2017, 03:39:58 PM »
Unfortunately, I can't.  :'( I already have a smaller version of picture prepared, but I can't change the attachment, neither delete the above post. I can only delete the attachment from post.

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #104 on: March 26, 2017, 04:13:23 PM »
How exactly your bifilar coil has been wound? Because what your picture shows apparently isn't the bifilar coil.

Wrong again. The bifilar coil is wound with two strands and the top of one strand is connected to the bottom of the other strand, standard Tesla bifilar style. This discussion originally started with solenoidal coils so I have shown the comparison between two solenoidal coils, one with just a single strand, and the other with the Tesla bifilar connection with two strands. Both the standard single-strand solenoid and the Tesla bifilar winding contain the same total length of wire.

If you would like to dispute the findings, feel free to post your own constructions and meter tests. Don't simply quote myths from the internet!

 

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