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Author Topic: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency  (Read 370960 times)

Offline ramset

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #570 on: April 10, 2017, 03:25:46 PM »
No the Zephir doesn't post his own work for investigation
he is a salesman for you tube hits and ???

Zephir ,you mixed up a reply to the thread founder here evostars [remember where you are ???

you are running all over the forum dropping ....errr .... bits of wisdom
copy paste and you tube links
you are banning ,firing accusing of lies etc etc etc

a very old act here
next time you come back ,[please work on the act while your gone]

please try to be more respectful of threads and topics here ,and maybe not so busy with
"you tube evidence" and copy paste 5 second google search stuff

just one experiment ?????????
your quote
""OU is easy"

Please no you tube evidence that OU is easy !!
would take 25 seconds of you tube searches to show 100000's of that phony stuff

an actual experiment ??
before you leave ??

just one ??

Last call ???

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Offline synchro1

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #571 on: April 10, 2017, 03:44:02 PM »
Two views through a telescope: One microscopic view of an invisible "Spark Gap Discharge Slope" from one end, and an over magnified view of a "Jovian Rat" misrepresenting a resistor discharge curve from the other.

Offline Zephir

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #572 on: April 10, 2017, 03:58:46 PM »
Quote
an actual experiment, before you leave, just one

You already got three links - or not? How the situation would change for you, if you would get four ones?

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #572 on: April 10, 2017, 03:58:46 PM »
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Offline MileHigh

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #573 on: April 10, 2017, 05:49:21 PM »
I see that Evostars has retreated to EF and is now nestled in with some supporters.  This is good for him because chances are whatever he chooses to disbelieve or ignore will be supported by people in the thread.  The wagons have been circled to protect them against the Arrows of Knowledge.  (Anybody remember the LEDs of Doom?)

So this is an allegorical posting about Thunderf00t and the Solar Freaking Roadways.  I am assuming that many of you know about the Solar Freaking Roadways.  Almost four million bucks and almost nothing to show for it!

I took the time to arrange all of Thunderf00t's clips in chronological order for your viewing pleasure.  Watch the Arrows of Knowledge slice though the Solar Freaking Roadways.  A wise man or woman after watching this might want to launch the Arrows of Knowledge at the nearly useless bifilar freaking pancake coil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H901KdXgHs4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3ftXinT4jI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KI8c2f8r0UU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocV-RnVQdcs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeK5GI6Un8Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mzzz5DdzyWY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIFNzCUo028
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pIfo1Dynjg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P90Y71ThfQs

There is a LOT to be learned from Thunderf00t if you aren't aware of his YouTube channel.  The same critical thinking skills and respect for the application of knowledge and rational analysis can be applied to the bifilar freaking pancake coil or any other subject matter.

Offline citfta

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #574 on: April 10, 2017, 07:37:31 PM »
No the Zephir doesn't post his own work for investigation
he is a salesman for you tube hits and ???

Zephir ,you mixed up a reply to the thread founder here evostars [remember where you are ???

you are running all over the forum dropping ....errr .... bits of wisdom
copy paste and you tube links
you are banning ,firing accusing of lies etc etc etc

a very old act here
next time you come back ,[please work on the act while your gone]

please try to be more respectful of threads and topics here ,and maybe not so busy with
"you tube evidence" and copy paste 5 second google search stuff

just one experiment ??? ??? ???
your quote
""OU is easy"

Please no you tube evidence that OU is easy !!
would take 25 seconds of you tube searches to show 100000's of that phony stuff

an actual experiment ??
before you leave ??

just one ??

Last call ???

Hey Chet,

I have figured out the true identity of Zephir.  He is Bro Mikey from EF.  He is using exactly the same tactics Bro Mikey loves to use.  He attacks those that dare to ask real questions because he doesn't have the technical knowledge to carry on a real discussion.  He posts over and over again fake videos and claim them to be real even after most of them have already been proven fake.  He presents no real evidence that he himself has actually done any true research.  If he is not Bro Mikey then he must be his twin brother because both of them act identical on these two forums.  If anyone doubts this just go to EF and read some of the junk Bro Mikey posts and compare it to Zephir's posts.  If you didn't look at the name you would not be able to tell which one wrote which post.  I guess it doesn't matter which name he uses since it is obvious both names are the same person.

Carroll

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #574 on: April 10, 2017, 07:37:31 PM »
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #575 on: April 10, 2017, 07:50:10 PM »
Not we - some people of us do it - and they even trying to "cover" the eyes of their peers (TinselKoala, MileHigh, Ramset  and another trolls).

Which "science friends" do you have on mind? The liars and hiders aren't OUR friends in general.

I already linked them also many times: small scale, larger scale, largest scale...

You are asked to provide evidence of your own for your outrageous claims, and you link once again to "Infinity SAV Team", a bunch of fakers and fraudsters angling for investors and ad money? That says more about YOU than it says about any "free energy" or overunity.

Offline ramset

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #576 on: April 10, 2017, 07:58:08 PM »
Well
I have no bad history with bro Mikey [he may have punched me a few times]

It doesn't really matter who he is [Zephir] actually posts some very interesting things
sort of like the latest hits of OU past and present.

my problem with Zephir is he is calling Us liars and frauds...
this is top shelf TOS violation here ,for an anonymous man to come here hiding behind the "Zephir"
and call me a Liar and cheat [most posting here have been called this  too

one thing is certain ...
very little manliness there...
like a little Kid throwing stones at strangers from a hiding place...

and still no experiments ..
just You tube Proof...we are supposed to figure out from back engineered you tube ?
this quote from Zephir OU is easy


enuff time wasted here...



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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #576 on: April 10, 2017, 07:58:08 PM »
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #577 on: April 10, 2017, 08:00:08 PM »
Two views through a telescope: One microscopic view of an invisible "Spark Gap Discharge Slope" from one end, and an over magnified view of a "Jovian Rat" misrepresenting a resistor discharge curve from the other.

Are you talking about me? Then once again you betray the fact that you will lie about and misrepresent the work of others, as well as misrepresenting your own "work". If you think you can refute me with checkable valid outside references, experiments or demonstrations of your own, go ahead and do it. It took me less than 15 minutes with a scope, function generator, capacitor and a couple of resistors to ONCE AGAIN demonstrate that you are wrong about your ridiculous contentions about capacitor charge-discharge RATES.

And what exactly is a "resistor discharge curve" ? Do resistors now store energy and release energy according to you?  Are you accusing me of faking a demonstration? When ANYONE with a scope, FG, resistors and capacitors -- and the actual knowledge to use them -- can repeat my demonstration and get exactly the same results? And the same is true for every other demonstration I have published: the details are publicly available and anyone with the kit can repeat them for themselves. 

You really are hilarious. I'm about to run out of ROFLs but you get another one anyway.   (when I run out, I'll have to start telling the Drop Bear to pay your comments a visit)

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #578 on: April 10, 2017, 08:05:45 PM »
Hey Chet,

I have figured out the true identity of Zephir.  He is Bro Mikey from EF.  He is using exactly the same tactics Bro Mikey loves to use.  He attacks those that dare to ask real questions because he doesn't have the technical knowledge to carry on a real discussion.  He posts over and over again fake videos and claim them to be real even after most of them have already been proven fake.  He presents no real evidence that he himself has actually done any true research.  If he is not Bro Mikey then he must be his twin brother because both of them act identical on these two forums.  If anyone doubts this just go to EF and read some of the junk Bro Mikey posts and compare it to Zephir's posts.  If you didn't look at the name you would not be able to tell which one wrote which post.  I guess it doesn't matter which name he uses since it is obvious both names are the same person.

Carroll

But but... where are the huge fonts and multicolored text?    ;D   

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #578 on: April 10, 2017, 08:05:45 PM »
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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #579 on: April 10, 2017, 08:18:34 PM »
TinselKoala, MileHigh, ramset, citfta - like I've said: ignorant trolls... Welcome at my ignore list.

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #580 on: April 10, 2017, 09:57:31 PM »
A typical response from someone who makes outrageous claims that he cannot back up with actual evidence, when challenged to do so.

Coil current reversal when power is interrupted? Disproved by me and by TinMan and by hundreds of thousands of circuit designers who put flyback diodes across inductors, as well as by Faraday's Law of Induction. But Zephir still has not retracted his claim nor has he explained the LEDs lighting in TM's or my demonstrations, nor has he produced any experiment or demonstration of his own in an attempt to refute us.

Overunity is easy? And when Zephir is challenged to provide evidence, he posts links to Infinity SAV Team ! Why not Innova Tehno, or Veproject, or the Pakistani mo-gens, or even the guy who plugs his power strip into itself and then runs a lightbulb?  What is "easy" is to fool Zephir, apparently.

Falsely characterizing what I do and don't believe? Yes, please do put me on your Ignore List so you don't have to notice when you are soundly refuted over and over again when you make your false claims.

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Offline synchro1

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #581 on: April 10, 2017, 10:14:31 PM »
A typical response from someone who makes outrageous claims that he cannot back up with actual evidence, when challenged to do so.

Coil current reversal when power is interrupted? Disproved by me and by TinMan and by hundreds of thousands of circuit designers who put flyback diodes across inductors, as well as by Faraday's Law of Induction. But Zephir still has not retracted his claim nor has he explained the LEDs lighting in TM's or my demonstrations, nor has he produced any experiment or demonstration of his own in an attempt to refute us.

Overunity is easy? And when Zephir is challenged to provide evidence, he posts links to Infinity SAV Team ! Why not Innova Tehno, or Veproject, or the Pakistani mo-gens, or even the guy who plugs his power strip into itself and then runs a lightbulb?  What is "easy" is to fool Zephir, apparently.

Falsely characterizing what I do and don't believe? Yes, please do put me on your Ignore List so you don't have to notice when you are soundly refuted over and over again when you make your false claims.

@Tinselkoala,

You charlatans had me flummoxed with your cute double entendre a year and a half ago. I retreated to Energetic Forum as Allen Burgess and initiated a thread entitled "Flyback Current Reversal". We heard from lawrence Tsung who cleared the entire matter up with the term "Negative Current. It's high time you knocked the crap off. Everyone can find a minus sign on every analog amp meter. Negative current can travel in the same direction as positive current. Denying the existence of "Negative Current" as Citfa doe's (Negative Dose) is just a cheap con trick. When are you gonna grow up?   


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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #582 on: April 10, 2017, 10:26:49 PM »

Wrong again! All real wires have resistance and ALL REAL CAPACITORS do too. Look up "ESR" wrt capacitors. For this claim of yours to be true you would have to have a capacitor with zero resistance and a connection with zero resistance, both impossible in reality, and the current on charge and discharge would be _infinite_, taking no time, which is what a vertical line means. Infinite slope! A change in charge over +no change in time+ !!!! Ridiculous on the face of it, as everyone _actually_ knows.
 
Good luck with that.

Anyone with a scope and the wit to use it can prove you wrong in fifteen minutes.

You want to keep moving goalposts and constructing your strawman arguments instead of admitting that you were wrong, go ahead. You'll wind up here just like you wound up at EF: nobody pays attention to you since they all know that you are full of yourself, you misrepresent and misunderstand and prevaricate, and you will never admit that you are wrong.



TK,

1st TC in either which is approx 63% of the capacitors charging or discharging capacity, it is fast to start and slows in either case (charge or discharge) the current curve is kind of opposite though.

Offline synchro1

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #583 on: April 10, 2017, 11:08:59 PM »
Dr. Tsung went further and stated that "Negative Current" was the pathway to overunity. Everyone knows that TK's click of frauds are just paid sock puppets for the fossil fuel lobby.

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #584 on: April 10, 2017, 11:34:53 PM »
Dr. Tsung went further and stated that "Negative Current" was the pathway to overunity. Everyone knows that TK's click of frauds are just paid sock puppets for the fossil fuel lobby.

LOL   In Kirchhoff's Current Law all currents entering a node in a circuit must sum to zero.  The convention is that currents entering a node are denoted as positive currents and currents exiting a node are denoted as negative currents.  "Positive" or "negative" merely denote the direction of the current flow.  There is no such thing as "negative current" in the way I suspect some people might be thinking.

“The algebraic sum of all currents entering and exiting a node must equal zero”

"That is, if we assign a mathematical sign (polarity) to each current, denoting whether they enter (+) or exit (-) a node, we can add them together to arrive at a total of zero, guaranteed."

https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/direct-current/chpt-6/kirchhoffs-current-law-kcl/

So all of the fussing and flustering and fussbudgeting and the general spreading around of misery and drama and unhappiness and insults about this subject can now stop.


 

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