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evostars

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1500 on: January 10, 2018, 04:06:22 PM »
At resonant frequency, the two magnetic fields cancel out.
No they don't. This is a common misconception.

The coils in Tesla patent 512340 do NOT cancel the magnetic field.
The windings are wound in the same direction.
the magnetic field polarities of both windings are the same.

Since the capacitance is increased, there can be more energy stored in the dielectric field,
resulting into a stronger magnetic field at resonance,
 when these 2 fields transform back and forth into each other.

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1501 on: January 10, 2018, 04:28:06 PM »
I tried to prove there is a third field. By showing resonance without a magnetic field component.
This is not true. Resonance, is still between electric and magnetic fields.

The "apparent" non magnetic field I tried to prove, actually was a magnetic field that was more north than south(or vice versa), due to the long duration (50%) positive pulses I used to get the coil into resonance.
 
This resulted in a swing of the compass, as the resultant vector of the fast changing magnetic field wasn't zero.

But It can be zero!
 the magnetic field can be perfectly balanced, resulting in dielectric/magnetic resonance, that doesn't swing the compass needle.

The way to do this, is by instant voltage. off-on-off.
A simulation of a back emf spike, that has high voltage (energy),  but is instant.
It  has no duration in time. To do this is to connect and disconnect (instant) a charged capacitor to the resonant coil.

 the resonance produced by this method is rather special. it has a much higher voltage then the original spike.
This is because, the counterspacial dielectric field bewteen the windings is instantly there. as soon as the voltage is applied from the cap, the voltage difference is instantly there bewteen the windings. it takes NO TIME, the dielectric field is instantly there.

In comparing with a capacitor, that needs charge time, because the plates are not connected,
the bifilar coil needs no charge time, the dielectric field is instantly there!!!

Now think what this does at resonance... where the fields transform back and forth between dielectric and magnetic.

The Sine wave representative of the dielectric field strength (voltage) reseaches its maximum voltage, and is charged instantly by the capacitor to a higher voltage. charge is even a wrong word... as it indicates time. it is instant.

this higher voltage, dielectric field, @ resonance transforms into a magnetic field, and back into a dielectric field (negative) and back into a magnetic field (negative) and again back to a positive dielectric field, where the whole process starts again.
But this time the dielectric field is stronger (only a small loss from wire resistance), than before. Again it is pulsed. the voltage becomes higher and higher...

super empose this onto the magnetic resonant sine, and we've got a runaway.
more and more voltage, stronger and stornger magnetic fields.
only restricted by the wire resistance, and the switching mechanism.

To create a output, simply ad another resonant coil in parallel, tune it to the first resonant coil, and rectify into a capacitor bank, to feed a DC load. the load, keeps the voltage rise under control. clipping of the top and bottom of the sine wave making it more like a rectangle...

This is what I'm working on, and what I'll keep doing until it works.
I'll use my youtube channel to explain it in smaller steps.
this is the playslist so far:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhY27Zoor-Q&list=PLFz4KwTTMz5HlNimggtTsrDN9_jD2ZTeS

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1502 on: January 10, 2018, 10:13:59 PM »
MASTER IVO EXPERIMENT, thanks for the idea, this is your experiment...!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPUB5ukCUsE

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1503 on: January 14, 2018, 11:14:14 PM »
MASTER IVO EXPERIMENT, thanks for the idea, this is your experiment...!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPUB5ukCUsE
Super cool.

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C.P. Steinmetz explains electricity
« Reply #1504 on: February 08, 2018, 02:15:59 PM »
In C.P. Steinmetz his book
"Elementary lectures on electric discharges, waves and impulses, and other transients" from 1911,
he describes how electricity works, in a way that is very logical, by using the dielectric and magnetic fields.

It has inspired me greatly.  I'm very grateful Nelson Rocha shared his first edition of this book with me.  ;D
 It has given me great insights in how a bifilar coil really works, and what we can do with it.

I am making a video series explaining the fundamentals, and how this is translated to the bifilar tesla pancake coil.
These are the first 3 in the series (more to follow, please subscribe on my youtube channel)

Lesson 01: Fields; electric energy stored in the dielectric and magnetic field
https://youtu.be/NSKKbEo6fzI

Lesson 02: Power, inductance and capacity; and how they relate.
https://youtu.be/LclozdKdZRc

Lesson 03: Infinite voltage and current; and how the time factor plays a role
https://youtu.be/zmZxQp1PW1U

I hope this will inspire more people.
Together these 3 videos hold a lot of information that when combined are priceless.

MasterPlaster

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1505 on: February 11, 2018, 04:42:21 PM »
@Erfinder,
You seem to know a lot. If you do then share it. It serves no purpuse to keep things to yourself
in the hope that on these forums general public starts forming a "solid fundamental understanding"
of anything.

To some of us it is quite clear that the wheels are coming off the cart and a lot of our beliefs no longer
apply.

For my part I am thankful to evostars for sharing his findings.
Personally I generally avoid  commenting on matters that I have no practical experince and keep in the
shadows.

I saw this posted a while back and am not sure if it is related to the subject mater:
https://phys.org/news/2017-10-effect-electromagnetism-years.html

evostars

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1506 on: February 19, 2018, 12:15:38 AM »
...
For my part I am thankful to evostars for sharing his findings.
Personally I generally avoid  commenting on matters that I have no practical experince and keep in the
shadows.
...
Thank you for being thankful MasterPlaster.

sm0ky2

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1507 on: February 19, 2018, 05:22:57 AM »
Am I the only one who finds it ironic that an IBM researcher
Named Thomas Watson, is trying to claim something that belongs to
Greg Watson, of Australia? (1985)
(also synonymous to 1/2 of a Howard Johnson gate)

Don’t get me wrong, it’s great that the academics are finally looking
at it, but the notion that anomalous energy is present in this magnetic
arrangement, is in the nomenclature.
Not a “new” discovery......

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1508 on: March 08, 2018, 10:29:48 AM »
this is proof of concept, a video about re using back emf to create resonance.
I used 2 resonant coils to understand it better.

https://youtu.be/1Q8usAXWtVM

in a few days, another new video, showing the same 2 processes combined into one and the same resonant coil, showing amplification of the voltage.

still working
 ;D

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1509 on: March 08, 2018, 02:13:32 PM »
I'm oscillating this ferrite magnet piston with BEMF from the Reed switch spinner. I'm powering the resonance in the ferrite core serial bifilar coil through a 70uF capacitor in series with the positive input.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hMmJlc6emw

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1510 on: March 10, 2018, 03:15:08 PM »
The previous video was a proof of concept, showing 2 different methods of inducing resonance, into 2 separated bifilar coils.
1: by a square wave pulsed parallel bifilar coil
2: by a series connected capacitor discharge. (nanopulses)

In the next video, I combine both methods, into one bifilar coil.
This amplifies the resonant energy. This is based on an article shared by Nelson Rocha:
http://www.accelinstruments.com/Applications/WaveformAmp/Magnetic-Field-Generator.html

here is the video showing the amplification:
https://youtu.be/01tdMJBKa1I


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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1511 on: March 10, 2018, 06:48:09 PM »
The previous video was a proof of concept, showing 2 different methods of inducing resonance, into 2 separated bifilar coils.
1: by a square wave pulsed parallel bifilar coil
2: by a series connected capacitor discharge. (nanopulses)

In the next video, I combine both methods, into one bifilar coil.
This amplifies the resonant energy. This is based on an article shared by Nelson Rocha:
http://www.accelinstruments.com/Applications/WaveformAmp/Magnetic-Field-Generator.html

here is the video showing the amplification:
https://youtu.be/01tdMJBKa1I

@evostars,

I really dig what you're doing. Is there any way you can imagine getting this effect to do physical work?

evostars

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1512 on: March 20, 2018, 12:28:39 AM »
@evostars,

I really dig what you're doing. Is there any way you can imagine getting this effect to do physical work?
Yes, just look at Nelson Rocha's work.

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1513 on: March 20, 2018, 09:34:44 AM »
Yes, just look at Nelson Rocha's work.

Rocha says you can get 2x the source current with this resonant current amplifier. Isn't that OU right there? Voltage we can raise to what level we want anyway

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1514 on: March 21, 2018, 11:14:28 AM »
it is a known fact that :

A series resonant circuit provides voltage magnification.
A parallel resonant circuit provides current magnification.

why can't I just amplify them on their own, the use caps&diodes to convert it all to DC and join the signals?