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Author Topic: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency  (Read 401069 times)

Offline MileHigh

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1320 on: May 03, 2017, 05:26:07 PM »
Miles
starting with your condescending comment ... the intentionally dismissive "a good exercise"

you are just hunting for a flame war, and now you draw ethnicity and vulgarity into it.!

Not good not good at all !!

Saying "a worthwhile exercise" is "intentionally dismissive?"  Get your head screwed on right because there is nothing intentionally dismissive about that.  Condescending comment?  Where?

Nelson is playing a Latin bouncer, go after him for that.  Did you see his long ugly posting?  Stop the political correctness.  I used the word "Latin" and your snowflakes are melting?  lol

All this nonsense talk should stop right now and Nelson can discuss the project or else keep his mouth shut.

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1321 on: May 03, 2017, 05:37:54 PM »
There is no continuity in your behavior ,nor the double standard which you attempt [very poorly]
to uphold.

practice what you preach


Also
your attempting to make points for your negative[negating] claims ...when there is no conclusion whatsoever on the bench "yet".

resonant ...Pancakes ...waffles or "other"

an ongoing investigation which is actually just getting started [here]

no dismissive conclusions or lines in the sand.

and yes "a worthwhile exercise" is MH talk for _nothing new here , let the minions learn something...they need the exercise _.





Offline nelsonrochaa

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1322 on: May 03, 2017, 05:47:55 PM »
Saying "a worthwhile exercise" is "intentionally dismissive?"  Get your head screwed on right because there is nothing intentionally dismissive about that.  Condescending comment?  Where?

Nelson is playing a Latin bouncer, go after him for that.  Did you see his long ugly posting?  Stop the political correctness.  I used the word "Latin" and your snowflakes are melting?  lol

All this nonsense talk should stop right now and Nelson can discuss the project or else keep his mouth shut.

You don't have authority or even moral to say to other people shut up . Just respect other people if you want be respected . You are the worst person to talk about respect simple because you not respect most of people  .
 
If you forget i will remember you :
 was the "Latin boys" that open the thread and start talk about the subject of bifilar pancake coils that you since begin try  put noise .
what you have against Latin people ? Your thoughts are disturbed by your ideas of superiority and Xenophobic attitude  , but to me you are nothing then a Badly formed person.


Go listen crickets chirping.

Have a nice day

Nelson Rocha



Offline MileHigh

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1323 on: May 03, 2017, 05:50:37 PM »
Nelson, stop posting useless nonsense and post something about the project.  If you have nothing to say about the project then shut up.

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1324 on: May 03, 2017, 05:58:52 PM »
Nelson, stop posting useless nonsense and post something about the project.  If you have nothing to say about the project then shut up.
I post things about this subject since begin , and the nonsense videos like you talk and  is not only from youtube like you say :

"Another interesting effect observed between a bifilar pancake coil when transfer power to a normal bifilar coil properly tuned,  is that seems the input is not affected when load is connected, where apparently the input decrease when a load is connected.
Just another simple test that could be made with this coils .

https://goo.gl/photos/BtUjDgGUQW39GU8f7" did you think i'm worry to promote my youtube channel ? look well to the link of last video i post  !

watch and  learn !

Have a nice day !


PS -IS NOT COPY PAST MAN ! :)

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1325 on: May 03, 2017, 06:02:59 PM »
Miles
whether you like it or Not
Nelson's work inspired the present path of investigation, he has been beating the Drum for quite some time, it just so happens that Partzman's MEI work is taking the stage ATM, as it is open source
and been a long time in the works.

attempting to make definitive statements [your attempts] about this path of investigation
 is completely premature .

and I agree with Nelson , your condescending "shut up " is yet another example or your poor behavior, and weak social skills.

Myself and others are grateful that Nelson got the focus back on this topic ,and many here are having a wonderful time .

regardless the outcome.....



Offline MileHigh

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1326 on: May 03, 2017, 06:08:17 PM »

"Another interesting effect observed between a bifilar pancake coil when transfer power to a normal bifilar coil properly tuned,  is that seems the input is not affected when load is connected, where apparently the input decrease when a load is connected.
Just another simple test that could be made with this coils .

https://goo.gl/photos/BtUjDgGUQW39GU8f7" did you think i'm worry to promote my youtube channel ? look well to the link of last video i post  !

Please go ahead Nelson and summarize for us what you are doing in that clip and what the measurements are and what your conclusion is.  You need to add some substance, just watching your camera pan back and forth to your meters is of very little value.  You need present proper data and make a conclusion.

Chet:  Take your passive-aggressiveness and go buy yourself a happy face sticker.

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1327 on: May 03, 2017, 06:11:27 PM »
Miles
Must be nothing on TV today ??

learn to play nice and practice what you preach !

we all know that Nelson can't discuss his work ,and soo do you....


http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=3445.msg61562;topicseen#msg61562

Offline MileHigh

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1328 on: May 03, 2017, 06:30:16 PM »
lol  So he links to his clip but he can't say what is in his clip but I am supposed to "watch and learn?"  lol

Perhaps you are freaking out and in dread of the likelihood that there is not going to be a "killer app" for the Tesla series bifilar coil and it's all just a "make work" project that goes nowhere and accomplishes nothing.  A rational approach to electronics will prevail and coils are all fine and dandy, but there is no need to make a series bifilar solenoid coil and no need to make a series bifilar pancake coil.  I am not discussing Partzman's transformer project here, just the Tesla series bifilar pancake coil itself.  I am sure the manufacture and application of coils is a multi-billion dollar industry, after all.  Every single modern DC-to-DC converter has a coil in it.  They must be used in the billions per year.  Every single cell phone, every single motherboard, the list goes on and on.

If rational thought prevails and there is no found "killer app" then people can move on and forget about the Tesla series bifilar coil.  That would be a success for all concerned, a breath of fresh air.  Then, when people make coils for pulse motors or whatever, they will not wind them in a series bifilar fashion like some hapless members of a cargo cult.

The proof will be in the pudding and we will see what happens.

You can go to Plan B and talk about pistol shrimps instead, right?

Offline nelsonrochaa

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1329 on: May 03, 2017, 06:40:32 PM »
Please go ahead Nelson and summarize for us what you are doing in that clip and what the measurements are and what your conclusion is.  You need to add some substance, just watching your camera pan back and forth to your meters is of very little value.  You need present proper data and make a conclusion.

Chet:  Take you passive-aggressiveness and go buy yourself a happy face sticker.

To clever people is easy see what i try show .   but i will say again :
"Another interesting effect observed between a bifilar pancake coil when transfer power to a normal bifilar coil properly tuned,  is that seems the input is not affected when load is connected, where apparently the input decrease when a load is connected."

Is not enough to such person so smart like you understand that ?
If you need help to reproduce yourself just PM and i will help you ;)


Offline MileHigh

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1330 on: May 03, 2017, 06:54:14 PM »
To clever people is easy see what i try show .   but i will say again :
"Another interesting effect observed between a bifilar pancake coil when transfer power to a normal bifilar coil properly tuned,  is that seems the input is not affected when load is connected, where apparently the input decrease when a load is connected."

Is not enough to such person so smart like you understand that ?
If you need help to reproduce yourself just PM and i will help you ;)

Unfortunately it is not a particularly interesting effect and it has nothing to do with the fact that you are using a bifilar pancake coil and a normal pancake coil.  What you say has been observed and reported on this forum many times before, too many times to count.

Yes, apparently the input decreases when the load is connected and all that you are doing is making an anecdotal observation of this effect.  You actually don't know why this is happening.  There is in fact a real reason for it to be happening.  All that you have to do is make proper measurements and use your brains to analyze the situation and figure out exactly how and why this is happening and then explain it to your readers.

But I don't think that is going to be happening.  I don't need your help, but clearly you need help.  But it's not really what this thread is all about.  Why don't you start your own thread and try to understand it with the help of your peers?

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1331 on: May 03, 2017, 07:01:22 PM »
Unfortunately it is not a particularly interesting effect and it has nothing to do with the fact that you are using a bifilar pancake coil and a normal pancake coil.  What you say has been observed and reported on this forum many times before, too many times to count.

Yes, apparently the input decreases when the load is connected and all that you are doing is making an anecdotal observation of this effect.  You actually don't know why this is happening.  There is in fact a real reason for it to be happening.  All that you have to do is make proper measurements and use your brains to analyze the situation and figure out exactly how and why this is happening and then explain it to your readers.

But I don't think that is going to be happening.  I don't need your help, but clearly you need help.  But it's not really what this thread is all about.  Why don't you start your own thread and try to understand it with the help of your peers?


Forget man , you are struggling against yourself, and to me you are a lost lost case. Keep talk alone . One thing i now :
This forum is not only you , and that is what makes the difference between most other people and your excessive self-centeredness.
I don't like waste my precious time with people like you .
Say what you want , struggle in the way like you like .... is your choice .
Have a nice day

Offline MileHigh

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1332 on: May 03, 2017, 07:15:29 PM »
You are trying deflection, you are running away because the task is above your skill level.  Take my advice, open a thread and share your data with your peers and work on it together and learn together and do something good.

Offline Acca

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1333 on: May 03, 2017, 07:16:10 PM »
Nelson thanks for your posts I have been reading about you formulations and Tesla flat coil, please post here as I have excluded M.h. from all my  views .. He is just angry..


Acca.


p.s


I am very concern'd that you will be hacked to the end here..

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1334 on: May 03, 2017, 07:25:03 PM »
You are trying deflection, you are running away because the task is above your skill level.  Take my advice, open a thread and share your data with your peers and work on it together and learn together and do something good.

who say that i running away ? I simple say that i choice ignore you , and that is very different.  Behavior begets behavior , and I will not go down to your level, otherwise I would be against my principles and my personal formation .

What is not good to you could be precious to others ;)
So we could agree for sure that is better we just  Ignore each other so common sense prevails in this thread because others persons , not  blame, for our behavior.
follow you path and i follow mine .


Have a nice day