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### Author Topic: The over unity of series to parallel recharging.  (Read 5215 times)

#### spacecowboy

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##### The over unity of series to parallel recharging.
« on: February 09, 2017, 11:56:03 PM »
Made a video on the over unity of series to parallel recharging and some easy projects any laymen can do to prove it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTA7a9l7Ifo

#### citfta

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##### Re: The over unity of series to parallel recharging.
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2017, 12:52:33 AM »
I watched your video all the way through.  What you are describing is basically the Three Battery Generating System that has been discussed and worked with thoroughly on the Energetic Forum.  I have worked on that system for about 5 years now so I feel I am pretty clear on what it can and can't do.

You have a couple of mistakes in your video.  The diode is not needed as the battery on the recharging side can never get charged high enough to try and recharge the charging batteries.  You also do not gain anything by adding more batteries in parallel on the recharging side.  This is simply not true.  When you add more batteries the total energy gets divided between them so they don't all charge as much as a single battery would.  There is no overunity just by adding more batteries to the recharging side.  You are correct you can run a load for much longer by recycling the energy back and forth between the batteries but they will eventually run down without some other means of charging them.

If you want to make the system much more efficient you have make use of the spinning motor and a very good generator.  You also need an automated battery swapping system.  If you go to the Energetic Forum and look for the thread called Basic Free Energy Device you will find a lot of information about this system.  I did post there information and pictures for an automated battery swapping circuit.  We are still working on the best type of generator to use with this system.

Respectfully,
Carroll

#### shylo

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• Posts: 540
##### Re: The over unity of series to parallel recharging.
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2017, 01:25:35 AM »
If you want to make the system much more efficient you have make use of the spinning motor and a very good generator.

Hi Carroll, Couldn`t agree more.
The problem is building the way as accepted.
Accepted works great , but Less is more.
Step-up the voltage from generating windings, to pulse the drive ,which are the same coils.
artv

#### spacecowboy

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• Posts: 44
##### Re: The over unity of series to parallel recharging.
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2017, 01:41:52 AM »
Ive fiddles with such many years, but im no expert, and always found such interesting. One design Ill mention that I found seemed to work better then the rest was what I called a pulse motor, by simply taking a motor apart, I used a cd motor, not the easiest thing to get apart as most know. anyway took it apart and pulled the motor with winding on it out. Then on the shaft of that at the base there are three contacts below the coils. Im not talking about the two contacts where your power wires go to. Anyway if you carefully bent one of these three contacts back and forth it will fall off, dont break your coil wires. And then put it all back together. and what this produces is a motor that makes contact and then breaks contact as it spins, sometimes to start it you must do it manually by hand. Anyway this will add a great amount of energy back into your wiring for recharging your batteries. Perhaps its because of back emf generated then, who knows. But since I did not mention this in the video, for those interested there it is. As to the diode, without a pulse motor the diode is needed. But opinions will always vary.........

#### citfta

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• Posts: 969
##### Re: The over unity of series to parallel recharging.
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2017, 02:54:54 AM »
Yes, you are correct about the pulse motor making the system work better.  The pulsing seems to help the battery being charged to charge more efficiently.  If you will look at the thread on the EF you can find a design by Matt Jones for taking a razor scooter motor apart and rewinding it to make a very powerful pulse motor.  It does make a difference  as to how well the battery getting charged is charged.

Take care,
Carroll

PS: We call the battery being charged battery #3.

#### Bob Smith

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• Posts: 731
##### Re: The over unity of series to parallel recharging.
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2017, 03:20:42 AM »
Would it be possible to set up this kind of arrangement using a discharging cap instead of the motor?
(If I'm derailing this thread, please let me know, and I'll post it elsewhere).
Bob

#### spacecowboy

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• Posts: 44
##### Re: The over unity of series to parallel recharging part 2
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2017, 07:15:49 AM »
Watch part 2 of this video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsHT5KrnQck

#### Tito L. Oracion

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• Posts: 2203
##### Re: The over unity of series to parallel recharging.
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2017, 05:41:17 AM »
we need to cut one wire in the motor and get the collapsing field and charge.

#### spacecowboy

• Newbie
• Posts: 44
##### Re: These videos have been moved to my unlisted youtube section.
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2017, 04:39:32 PM »
The reason for this is both positive and negative. Turns out I had made some mistakes, but I was not wrong in everything. Given some conversation I had with a commenter on my youtube video page. Seems Seems my commenter and I were both right and wrong on over unity strangely. I was wrong about adding more parallel batteries to be recharged thinking that would equal over unity, it only equaled a less of a recharge there on those batteries. However by sticking to only 2 batteries in series to be used to run the motor and also that recharging only 2 other batteries in parallel this turned out to be correct and works well. My commenter said the only way to be sure was to run the motor by itself on just the two AA batteries and see how long the motor ran, and then compare that against how long the motor ran as the whole setup also recharged the two parallel batteries. Turns out that even when I run the motor alone on the two Fully recharged AA batteries in series it runs around 14 hours, which is the same the motor runs when the setup is recharging the 2 batteries in parallel. Plus I can then swap the recharged parallel batteries with the then two drained series batteries at the end of the experiment, and get the motor to run an additional 9 hours. So there is still progress here, but I will remake these videos again getting ti all straight because as they are now I was mistaken a bit. So again they are now listed in my unlisted youtube video section.