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Offline antimony

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Re: Pulling energy from the ambient energy field using a coil capacitor
« Reply #150 on: December 15, 2017, 03:32:04 PM »
Well I am fond of all kinds of theories, but I mostly just believe on things that can be proven.

This does not mean EU is bullshit. I support that more than I do "Dark Energy", "Dark Matter" and "Virtual Particles" that were invented so that some calculations add up. That is just proof to me, that general relativity is faulty. I think everything is waves. Matter is standing waves.

I already know that what I was told studying to be an engineer is partly bullshit. I was fed laws that some dude wrote more than a hundred years ago. Free energy is impossible because thermodynamics and energy conservation laws. Ok then. First of all give me one closed system. There is none. How do we violate energy conservation, if we just harvest what is already there?

Engineering 20 years ago was just "plug that device in the the wall outlet and start paying the bill. If you get any anomalies in your circuits you ground the shit out of it". That is because energy companies pay for the schools, books and research.

So it is sad, but I think our future lies partly on the shoulders of crazy people trying to find the Holy Grail.

I will go and check that website

Yeah, I am not qualified to claim that either theory is bs, but it generally feel like the EU theory makes sense to me, but I am just a regular dumb Joe.

What you said about everything being waves is just the sort of thing that resonates with me.

And also, I really feel like these sorts of forums with dedicted intelligent people really can make a difference, and progress.

Ps. I am ashamed to say that I still havent figured out what 50% turn offset means. :S
I am not a english speaker, and it can sometimes be hard to translate simple technical stuff like this.

I guess i already know what it is and are using it, but I have to ask becouse i am not sure 100%

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Offline Belfior

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Re: Pulling energy from the ambient energy field using a coil capacitor
« Reply #151 on: December 15, 2017, 03:52:47 PM »
just look at the coilcap images on Jack's document. There are 2 different ways of doing the coilcap. First option has both wires wound the same way over the core. This is the 0% offset.

Seconds option is where the ends of one wire are connected together and then the wire is cut in half from the middle. One end in the middle is isolated with tape (left open) the the other is connected to load. This is the 50% offset.

I think we know nothing about electricity, magnetism and gravity. Except that they are all connected. People think they know stuff, but they just scrape the surface. They would like to know everything, so they state that what ever they know is everything. Then they write laws about it and get a Nobel prize.

That is the reason we are still sitting on this rock. We do not have enough radical thinkers. We have assholes who want to settle for what we have. Do you think God created billions of galaxies as an error or that we could go see all the wonders and species? Well we are not going to see shit with rockets and by burning oil.

We lost a lot when Maxwell's original equations were normalized so engineering would be easier. We lost the fringe cases and anomalies, that would allow us the develop interesting stuff.

Offline antimony

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Re: Pulling energy from the ambient energy field using a coil capacitor
« Reply #152 on: December 15, 2017, 08:06:52 PM »
just look at the coilcap images on Jack's document. There are 2 different ways of doing the coilcap. First option has both wires wound the same way over the core. This is the 0% offset.

Seconds option is where the ends of one wire are connected together and then the wire is cut in half from the middle. One end in the middle is isolated with tape (left open) the the other is connected to load. This is the 50% offset.

I think we know nothing about electricity, magnetism and gravity. Except that they are all connected. People think they know stuff, but they just scrape the surface. They would like to know everything, so they state that what ever they know is everything. Then they write laws about it and get a Nobel prize.

That is the reason we are still sitting on this rock. We do not have enough radical thinkers. We have assholes who want to settle for what we have. Do you think God created billions of galaxies as an error or that we could go see all the wonders and species? Well we are not going to see shit with rockets and by burning oil.

We lost a lot when Maxwell's original equations were normalized so engineering would be easier. We lost the fringe cases and anomalies, that would allow us the develop interesting stuff.

Yeah it is just the way i have done it, so I got it right. :) Thanks.

The fact that we cant explain that electricity is, are the thing that I was intriged about when i first read Jacks pdf.
I would be lying if i say that I understand it completely, but I think it is an interesting find, and i want to wrap my head around what it is Jack have discovered here.

The thing you wrote about physicists write new laws and come up with new theories, and then getting the Nobel prize for it is something that is bothering me too. ×(
I am a native swede, so to me it kind of stings even more then it would have if i wasnt.

Have you heard of something called Deutsche Physik that were active in the 1920-1940's?
I am reading a book called Serving the Reich by Philip Ball that is all about how a group of german scientists and Nobel prize Winners tried to save physics from the then new theoretical physicists like Einstein and Heisenberg.
In this book they are accused that the only reason that they didnt agree with Einsteins view of the world was becouse that he was jewish, and nothing else.

I mean, Tesla wrote about his distrust against the Einsteinians many times, but he was never accused of being a jew hater like Lenard and Stark was. It was probably becouse Deutsche Physik was active during the WW2 era, in Germany, and Tesla was in America. So it was easy to dismiss them as haters with no real arguments, except that they were hated Einstein becouse of his jewish heritage.


Anyway, thanks for clearing up my questions. :)
I appreciate it.

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Re: Pulling energy from the ambient energy field using a coil capacitor
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Offline Belfior

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Re: Pulling energy from the ambient energy field using a coil capacitor
« Reply #153 on: December 15, 2017, 08:43:01 PM »
Well I'm from Finland falleralleraa!

Never heard of that movement. Was it the same movement, that took the nazis into US and gave them money and new identities, if they gave US the A-bomb so they could murder a couple of civilians in Japan?

Margaret Mead said if we ever encounter aliens we must hide it, because people would get depressed and stop working, if they realized we are not the apex of creation. I think they have done this since the 50s. That bitch ruined star travel and the planet for the rest of us...

What I hate is that I just took the education like I'm supposed to and never questioned anything. They basically told me how to be a good servant and called that education. Now when I get older I find anomalies that go against my education and began to realize, that I was taught bullshit so I would become a good consumer.

There are no laws in the universe! It is all about context and situations. Why would it be impossible to harvest energy? Electron does it many times per second. Why would it be impossible to go faster than light? It might be impossible to push a rocket from zero to light speed, but who gives a fuck about that with these gas prices anyway! What if I don't travel in this dimension? What if I travel in 2d and come back to 3d? Use some imagination.

E=mc^2 says we can't. Does it? To me it says if the mass becomes zero we need zero energy. So what if I insulate my craft from gravitational pull? What people need to do is open their minds and start with a simple exercise. Like finding a closed system and then think what laws of thermodynamic's is telling to you

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Re: Pulling energy from the ambient energy field using a coil capacitor
« Reply #154 on: December 16, 2017, 01:07:22 PM »
Well I'm from Finland falleralleraa!

Never heard of that movement. Was it the same movement, that took the nazis into US and gave them money and new identities, if they gave US the A-bomb so they could murder a couple of civilians in Japan?

Margaret Mead said if we ever encounter aliens we must hide it, because people would get depressed and stop working, if they realized we are not the apex of creation. I think they have done this since the 50s. That bitch ruined star travel and the planet for the rest of us...

What I hate is that I just took the education like I'm supposed to and never questioned anything. They basically told me how to be a good servant and called that education. Now when I get older I find anomalies that go against my education and began to realize, that I was taught bullshit so I would become a good consumer.

There are no laws in the universe! It is all about context and situations. Why would it be impossible to harvest energy? Electron does it many times per second. Why would it be impossible to go faster than light? It might be impossible to push a rocket from zero to light speed, but who gives a fuck about that with these gas prices anyway! What if I don't travel in this dimension? What if I travel in 2d and come back to 3d? Use some imagination.

E=mc^2 says we can't. Does it? To me it says if the mass becomes zero we need zero energy. So what if I insulate my craft from gravitational pull? What people need to do is open their minds and start with a simple exercise. Like finding a closed system and then think what laws of thermodynamic's is telling to you

OH,  a fellow scandinavian.  Kippis! :)

No Deutsche physik is a group of real scientists and many of them Nobel prize Winners for real experimental discoveries, like Philip Lenard and Johannes Stark mainly.
If you would google then and check their wikipedia pages you will see that they are really bashed for that they tried to save physics from Einstein and his friend.

I am sure many of them were arresten and transported to the US after the way, but I dont think that they had any choice in doing so or not.

I agree with the rest you wrote too.

I think that we need to keep this thread dedicated to Jacks coil capacitor, and i think we have been ranting back and fort now for a while, but if there is something you want, please pm me and well talk outsider of this thread. :)
Send me a pm if there is anything you want and i will do my best to help you.

•I have a question about the primary coils, should they be N to N, like bucking coils, or whatever?

I am using right now two primaries connected in the middle by a GDT, and i am using the out er ends, pushing in.

Btw, what are you using to drive it? Are you so fortunate that you are able to be replicating everything as per Jacks instructions?

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Re: Pulling energy from the ambient energy field using a coil capacitor
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Offline Belfior

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Re: Pulling energy from the ambient energy field using a coil capacitor
« Reply #155 on: December 16, 2017, 01:21:47 PM »
I just have one primary, so I would not know. Seems to me that if you got 0% offset coilcap is does not matter which way it goes or how to current goes.

Jack said using a coilcap as the primary would be the best option, because then the current propagation in the coil is instant. Now I do not agree with everything Jack says. He says only Coulomb's law applies and induction laws don't. To me it is like saying "you are floating on water, so gravity does not affect you". Any coil experiencing a changing magnetic field get currents inducted to it even if it is an open coil or just a ring.

I think you gotta test this now you got a chance! Does it matter if the 2 part primary is CW + gap + CW or if it is CW + gap + CCW wound

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Re: Pulling energy from the ambient energy field using a coil capacitor
« Reply #156 on: December 16, 2017, 01:57:52 PM »
 8) 8) Something like this.

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Offline Belfior

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Re: Pulling energy from the ambient energy field using a coil capacitor
« Reply #157 on: December 16, 2017, 03:57:04 PM »
Hmm you should have your primary over the coilcap. You are supposed to use induction from the primary and not connect flyback output to the coilcap.

Coilcap then has one wire going to load and one end open. Then the other wire going to load and one end open.

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Re: Pulling energy from the ambient energy field using a coil capacitor
« Reply #158 on: December 17, 2017, 01:47:38 PM »
Does anyone successfully replicated this negative inductor  http://freenrg.info/Misc/Genesis/

I tried and it did not work, i think that theory behind it is wrong, there is magnetic field between wires, its tiny but still there, its not canceled out to 0.

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Re: Pulling energy from the ambient energy field using a coil capacitor
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Re: Pulling energy from the ambient energy field using a coil capacitor
« Reply #159 on: December 17, 2017, 03:58:13 PM »
looking at this if you want zero inductance you need to wind it like this see pic
results in zero magnetic field.

Don't get me wrong but but what are all the heat sinks for ? and doesn't the LOPT get really hot in that circuit ?
I mean I don't want to throw a spanner in the works but aren't you supposed to use a ramp
driver so the spark charges up then whack! it arks across causing a disruptive spike ?

Ignore me if you want most do  ;D

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Re: Pulling energy from the ambient energy field using a coil capacitor
« Reply #160 on: December 17, 2017, 05:18:17 PM »
looking at this if you want zero inductance you need to wind it like this see pic
results in zero magnetic field.

Don't get me wrong but but what are all the heat sinks for ? and doesn't the LOPT get really hot in that circuit ?
I mean I don't want to throw a spanner in the works but aren't you supposed to use a ramp
driver so the spark charges up then whack! it arks across causing a disruptive spike ?

Ignore me if you want most do  ;D

Allen

How do we know what we want? I mean Jack's pdf says the wires are charged like a cap with like charge (positive + positive.) The diaelectric is then holding the charge. Do we want zero inductance on it? If it works just with Coulombs law then yes I guess, but is that really possible? I will copy his rig and do the same testing. There will be an effect or there is no effect

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Offline Belfior

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Re: Pulling energy from the ambient energy field using a coil capacitor
« Reply #161 on: December 17, 2017, 05:23:46 PM »
Does anyone successfully replicated this negative inductor  http://freenrg.info/Misc/Genesis/

I tried and it did not work, i think that theory behind it is wrong, there is magnetic field between wires, its tiny but still there, its not canceled out to 0.

I think I need to read that page a couple of more times...

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Re: Pulling energy from the ambient energy field using a coil capacitor
« Reply #162 on: December 17, 2017, 06:03:06 PM »
Does anyone successfully replicated this negative inductor  http://freenrg.info/Misc/Genesis/

I tried and it did not work, i think that theory behind it is wrong, there is magnetic field between wires, its tiny but still there, its not canceled out to 0.

Ok now this would kinda make sense to me, if the two aluminium cylinders are connected on the top with a cap. Then charge the inner core with positive and and the outer core with negative charge. In my mind that means the cores are an extension of that cap.

Then you got a coilcap of sorts wrapped around the outer negative coil and they would get induction from the negative charge. But when the cap is charged nothing moves. This means you have to have like a spark gap that discharges that cap to ground also at the top. Then the charge process would start again. I can't see it working like in the pictures without something like this.

I wonder if you wind the "negative inductor" coil like Jack does. So the coil is open ended, but your terminals are one at the top and one at the bottom. Then you would have an open coil that is charged with like charge (both with negative charge)

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Re: Pulling energy from the ambient energy field using a coil capacitor
« Reply #163 on: December 17, 2017, 08:25:58 PM »
Ok now this would kinda make sense to me, if the two aluminium cylinders are connected on the top with a cap. Then charge the inner core with positive and and the outer core with negative charge. In my mind that means the cores are an extension of that cap.

Then you got a coilcap of sorts wrapped around the outer negative coil and they would get induction from the negative charge. But when the cap is charged nothing moves. This means you have to have like a spark gap that discharges that cap to ground also at the top. Then the charge process would start again. I can't see it working like in the pictures without something like this.

I wonder if you wind the "negative inductor" coil like Jack does. So the coil is open ended, but your terminals are one at the top and one at the bottom. Then you would have an open coil that is charged with like charge (both with negative charge)


discharging  cylinder cap is not necessary, this negative inductor is supposedly using relativistic electromagnetism theory to produce magnetic field as BACK EMF, but it does not, maybe relativistic electromagnetism theory is wrong or the B field is not totally canceled out, or both.(I think to cancel magnetic field to 0 the dielectric must be at 0 thickness)

Offline Belfior

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Re: Pulling energy from the ambient energy field using a coil capacitor
« Reply #164 on: December 17, 2017, 10:48:28 PM »
back EMF from what? There has to be a break for back EMF to occur.

Maybe you could get that coil to charge capacitively, but why anything else should happen I don't see it

 

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