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Author Topic: Searching for Buddy in promising magnet motor Project.  (Read 17267 times)

Offline aether22

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Re: Searching for Buddy in promising magnet motor Project.
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2017, 03:36:10 AM »
I stand by my objection if the magnet is an electromagnet.


Now if it is a magnet that somehow becomes weaker as it approaches, then that is an interesting but problematic effect.


Now I don't follow your description of the motor, it's not clear.


So if the magnet just got weaker, sure it could work, kinda.


But the problem is that magnetic fields tend to get stronger and if you can find a way to have it get weaker closer you will only do that with some weird magnetic field shape, and in that event the forces you experience will not be what you expect.


For instance I know how to make a permanent magnet that gets weaker as you approach it, what you do its take a large magnet and a small magnet, put them in repulsion and attach the small magnet large magnet.


Now from far away the magnetic field of the larger magnet wins, but closer in the field of the smaller magnet begins to weaken the field, closer yet they reach zero and flip, now this is where the smaller magnets field "wins".


So I guess you have a chance of doing this and moving the coil over an area where the main field weakens and reaches zero as it approaches.


I don't think that you will find it to actually work though, though I can't quite work out why yet.


And I don't fully understand your latest description as it needs a picture and a clearer description.


But as for the aether, it's real and it's how free energy really works and your liking of that fact has no impact on the reality.

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Offline dieter

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Re: Searching for Buddy in promising magnet motor Project.
« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2017, 04:27:23 AM »
As you said "though I can't quite work out why yet.", so honestly, you're just guessing, probably randomly.


Your idea on how to achive such a dynamic magnet is interesting and one further, interesting approach. In my current setup the main magnetic field comes from a fixed magnet, the rotor only dimms it gradually.


Any method is welcome to achieve this relatively simple task and who knows, maybe a sceptic like you comes up with a working solution. Even tho, atm. I consider myself the most sceptical one of all those who understood the underlying principle of the concept.


And what could I say about Aether? There is so much yet to be explored. Neutrinos with the speed of light, having mass, penetrating eartly matter in incredible quantities, actually all space, where there was "the vacum" before, empty space. Helium, being liquid at 0deg K. "Spooky action at a distance" and quantum particle entanglement. Yes, there is energy from the Aether, what ever that may be. Much more than energy I think. Even time is no more absolute, when you look at the double slit experiment.


But for me, practical application of quantum mechanics ist still a couple of steps ahead on the road, while electromagnetism allows for garage scientists to do simple experiments right away.
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Re: Searching for Buddy in promising magnet motor Project.
« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2017, 05:49:59 AM »
As you said "though I can't quite work out why yet.", so honestly, you're just guessing, probably randomly.


Your idea on how to achive such a dynamic magnet is interesting and one further, interesting approach. In my current setup the main magnetic field comes from a fixed magnet, the rotor only dimms it gradually.


Any method is welcome to achieve this relatively simple task and who knows, maybe a sceptic like you comes up with a working solution. Even tho, atm. I consider myself the most sceptical one of all those who understood the underlying principle of the concept.


And what could I say about Aether? There is so much yet to be explored. Neutrinos with the speed of light, having mass, penetrating eartly matter in incredible quantities, actually all space, where there was "the vacum" before, empty space. Helium, being liquid at 0deg K. "Spooky action at a distance" and quantum particle entanglement. Yes, there is energy from the Aether, what ever that may be. Much more than energy I think. Even time is no more absolute, when you look at the double slit experiment.


But for me, practical application of quantum mechanics ist still a couple of steps ahead on the road, while electromagnetism allows for garage scientists to do simple experiments right away.
kr


I can understand that the aether might seem out of reach and mysterious to you.


I can feel aetheric energies (whatever they are) and I have found most people can, I know this might seem very foreign, but I am without any doubt that the well known historical free energy devices (Tesla, Stubblefield, Hendershot, Hubbard, Moray etc...) work this way, they felt these energies and many reported such.


I got to this by first studying all the claims and looking for correlations, what I saw was not the correlations I wanted to see, but the correlation that these devices and others operated as if they were more than the sum of their parts.  Putting things in a circle increased the energy, there were signs of an energy, a something moving through space.


It too be 17 years before I made a coil that I could feel plainly emit an energy, I tried other and they could too.  Thinking it sounded like Chi or Orgone which people also feel as similar sensations (heat, tingle) I tried it on people with complaints and I got amazing results.


I am yet to experiment with this in active circuits as I found I could learn more focusing on just the aether, and that could be done with just wire, and as I learnt later (yes this sounds impossible and crazy) even images!


I have learnt a lot about the aether in the years since and it explains ore of the free energy and antigravity devices that have credible evidence behind their claims.


Alas I didn't initially have fondness for the aether, and neither do most scientifically minded people.  In much the same way most are close to Free Energy.  But it is real, I have had proof it is real and I believe that by understanding the missing component in real Free Energy technology, actual results will be relatively easy!


I do not believe that I have seen any working Free Energy device that is of the "Gotcha, Loophole" type, they all seem to just inexplicably work while simultaneously having aetheric principles embedded throughout.



One of the signs that these devices work with the aether is that they usually have multiple anomalies besides the anomalous rise of energy.
They have thermal anomalies (odd hot/cold), they loose weight, non shocking electricity, illuminate lights wrong, arc at low voltages, operate strangely in devices, cause magnetization of generally non-magnetic materials. etc...


If you do a proper study of these devices and the associated anomalies you will quickly see that these are not just Free Energy devices, they are "Laws of physics get fucked here" devices.


I was once willing to show people the correlations, the evidence etc...
But now I say, research that on your own, but if you try what I say there is a better than 50% chance you will feel this energy!
Maybe as good as 70% to 90%!


Some even feel the graphics, do you want to try a graphic?  Or a coil it takes a minute to make?

John

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Re: Searching for Buddy in promising magnet motor Project.
« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2017, 05:49:59 AM »
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Offline dieter

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Re: Searching for Buddy in promising magnet motor Project.
« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2017, 06:15:08 AM »
It doesn't sound too crazy to me, in fact interesting, but it definitely also sounds off topic :)
kr

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Re: Searching for Buddy in promising magnet motor Project.
« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2017, 06:52:08 AM »
It doesn't sound too crazy to me, in fact interesting, but it definitely also sounds off topic :)
kr


Off topic to this thread I agree.  But if you are willing to try, either mosey on to my thread "Is anyone seriously interested in the physics of Free Energy?" or message me or email me berry.john22 at gmail.com


See if you are sensitive to the energy. If you are you might be interested in understanding the energy, experimenting with the energy, understanding how it is developed in different Free energy designs.

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Re: Searching for Buddy in promising magnet motor Project.
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Re: Searching for Buddy in promising magnet motor Project.
« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2017, 08:01:16 PM »
I probably will, the sooner or later.


For all rhose interested in the Topic, I agree, my presentation was a bit vague, so I made a graphic, that may or may not shed a light on this particular concept:


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Re: Searching for Buddy in promising magnet motor Project.
« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2017, 08:29:22 PM »
Note: I think I just realized that the shield must be downward concave, in order to maintain the desired polarity. Even tho I don't want to increase the total gap, if it helps to achieve any net gain, who cares.

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Re: Searching for Buddy in promising magnet motor Project.
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Offline dieter

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Re: Searching for Buddy in promising magnet motor Project.
« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2017, 10:38:06 PM »
Note: a further criterium for the shield is: attraction between coil and rotor PM must be bigger than repulsion between coil and parts of the shield that are of undesired polarity at certain moments during the cycle.


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Re: Searching for Buddy in promising magnet motor Project.
« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2017, 10:54:18 PM »
Here is an illustration of undesired polarity of the shield. I consider this the most significant if not thw only challenge.

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Re: Searching for Buddy in promising magnet motor Project.
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Re: Searching for Buddy in promising magnet motor Project.
« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2017, 03:05:06 AM »
Ok after testing and thinking further, I'm more or less guessing that for the rotor a weak, thin disc shaped magnet is better, probably ceramics, alnico or ferrite. By covering the entire shield, this maaaay work right out of the box.


Updated graphics, notice new rotor variation:


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Re: Searching for Buddy in promising magnet motor Project.
« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2017, 05:11:29 AM »
About Coghing


(is that written correctly?)


Coghing is a huge issue in any magnet rotation device, it would deserve its own forum section.


Coghing means, you will have friction in all directions, unlike in ballbearings for nonmagnetic devices. The losses are frequently underestimated and it may be a good idea to build a magnet bearing that uses sensors and EMagnets to precisely position the axis at the supposed center while floating freely in air.


However, for the particular design that is subject of this thread, coghing may at least partially be removed by using an unlike number of rotor elements vs stator elements. That doesn't nullify friction, but can reduce in greatly.
kr

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Re: Searching for Buddy in promising magnet motor Project.
« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2017, 05:11:29 AM »
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Re: Searching for Buddy in promising magnet motor Project.
« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2017, 08:40:47 AM »
Oh btw. first I called it "field strength", later "flux density", both is from the point of view of the coil effectively the same, at least in my terminology.

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Re: Searching for Buddy in promising magnet motor Project.
« Reply #27 on: February 08, 2017, 06:23:24 PM »
Ok, I see nobody of the few who understood this concept idea, like eg. Brad, is willing or able to explain why this probably could not work, leave alone to jump on the waggon and do some tests by their own.


I tried to replicate dozens of designs by others, many of them even lacking any theory, and they all failed. Collections of concepts in 1000pg+ pdfs, nothing but utter bullshit, and compared to them, from an objective point of view, this concept here is the most logical,elegant and plausible that I have ever seen. People try to replicate "designs" like Thestatika, Sweet, Hendersot, Johnson etc. with no theory or even plan, only based on trust on a report about a working model, and that in a world full of lies.


So for now I will go on and see for myself. Anyone interested please PN me, so I'll be notified.


I have btw. also suggested to Stefan that he might mod the forum in such a way that thread starters can delete spamish postings in their thread to seperate the real discussions from barely disguised troll posts that make 80% of all postings, and once this works, I am positive that the number of serious and real users will rise again. Please backup my request to Stefan.


Yeah, maybe the title I chose for this thread isn't ideal, I probably should have added some catchy stuff like "Tesla appeared to me in a dream, new plan!" Or "Alien technology, sent to me from Alpha Centauri Population, proof!" (one must be pro to come up with the incredible bs as seen here, flooding the forum). However.


Over and out.
kr

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Re: Searching for Buddy in promising magnet motor Project.
« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2017, 01:09:16 AM »
I bump this thread with some interesting vids from time to time, hope you don't mind. These are not meant to change the subject, please.


Althouth diffrent, interesting: Ray's BEMF free genetator:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3TFALmHtMw

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Re: Searching for Buddy in promising magnet motor Project.
« Reply #29 on: February 09, 2017, 04:40:24 AM »
@deiter


Couple of things....


First, the 'other topics' you listed, were in fact discussed
In great detail, accompanying many of the replications.
You may have to dig through some "bullshit" to find it.
The bullshit comes with the true knowledge. We cannot separate
the two. For having them both is what makes this forum
what it is.
One mans bullshit is another mans treasure.
You personally may disagree with someone else's opinion or
perspective on a particular matter. That does not inherently make
that person incorrect.


Even when it comes to commonly accepted scientific theories and
what we think we know about what we know. We can always expand
our knowledge and understanding, today's theory is the foundation for
tomorrow's laws. But a more complete theory can always take its place.
Euclid did not agree with Pythagoras. This did not make either one of them
incorrect. In fact but discussion of what Euclid disagreed with led to the
expansion of the human understanding of geometry.


Such takes place in the pages of this forum.
Collectively we all gain from it.
To help lead knowledge, science, and technology in a new direction
for the future of mankind.

 

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