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Author Topic: A Self-Powered 'Automated' Electrophorus  (Read 1661 times)

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A Self-Powered 'Automated' Electrophorus
« on: February 05, 2017, 06:31:57 PM »
   A Completely Self-Powered  'Automated'  Electrophorus

  (  This topic deserves it's own threads,  if this topic does actually have merit,  please  start your own threads about it,  on this site,  if it helps generate more research/interest etc   )

   I'm just typing this to state the obvious,  it seems that an  electrophorus  would supply more than enough voltage to  completely  self-power an  automated  version of itself( like the hand cranked version built by  conradelektro )

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     Above is a quote from  conradelektro  from his thread below,  which describes the voltage generated by the  'electrophorus'  :
    http://overunity.com/16448/modified-electrophorus-precharged-variable-capacitor/15/
      Search the above webpage for  "volts",  and read 'all' the webpage,  it includes reference to a patent,  and that this was all invented before,  that page above,  is a very important one.

    So,  my(?) idea is that this  'self-powered-automated-electrophorus' ,  would very much resemble a single piston/cylinder engine,  that the  "several thousand Volts"  would  be used to power  a  'Solenoid'(?)  to  raise  the  plate  away from the electret,  and that a  spring or gravity,  would place the plate back on the electret,  although that  'raising' and  'placing'  action could be reversed regarding the  solenoid  and the spring( or gravity )

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Re: A Self-Powered 'Automated' Electrophorus
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2017, 09:07:11 PM »


So,  my(?) idea is that this  'self-powered-automated-electrophorus' ,  would very much resemble a single piston/cylinder engine,  that the  "several thousand Volts"  would  be used to power  a  'Solenoid'(?)  to  raise  the  plate  away from the electret,  and that a  spring or gravity,  would place the plate back on the electret,  although that  'raising' and  'placing'  action could be reversed regarding the  solenoid  and the spring( or gravity )

Thank you for reading my posts about the Electrophorus.

Yes, lifting the top plate a few millimetres can create a Voltage V of several thousand Volts between the top plate and the bottom plate (or ground). Unfortunatelly the charge density is very small and would result in a current I of only several Micro-Ampere.

It is impossible to drive a solenoid with the resulting very low Wattage (W = V * I)

The top plate is attracted to the "cacke" (acrylic plate between the top plate and bottom plate) because of the ectrostatic force between opposite charges. Moving or lifting the top plate against this attraction force costs more energy than can be gained by the principle of charge separation.

There is no miracle in the electrophorus.

The elctrostatic attraction or repulsion forces and the principle of Charge Separation are well understood and leave no room for OU.

Greetings, Conrad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQwZ31DcFsg (might help a bit)

 

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