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Author Topic: re: energy producing experiments  (Read 123098 times)

Offline Delburt Phend

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Re: re: energy producing experiments
« Reply #405 on: January 14, 2023, 04:44:57 PM »
The false ‘law of conservation of energy’ is protected by four false axioms.

I. A spinning rim has no momentum.

II. If you tie a string on a moving mass it gives it more momentum.

III. A small mass can give its energy to a large mass.

IV. When the energy conservation math fails just claim there is heat loss.

Offline Delburt Phend

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Re: re: energy producing experiments
« Reply #406 on: February 02, 2023, 06:04:07 PM »
I would suspect that at first angular momentum was done properly. In that the velocity was originally angular velocity not linear velocity. Then a mass with the same linear velocity that is in a smaller circle would have a greater angular velocity; this would be compensated for by the smaller radius. A mass in motion would have half the angular velocity in a double (double the radius) size circle. Triple the radius of the circle and (at the same linear speed) you reduce the angular velocity by 1/3. So L = m * v angular * r   is correct, and it could be conserved. After the concept received acceptance, someone switched angular velocity for linear velocity. No one objected and the concept became false.

You can see the fallacy of the concept when they can find the angular momentum of a mass moving in a straight line. And down the road of fantasy land they went, and they have never come back. 

A pulley changes the direction of the force; so, all of the direction complaints are false. 

Remember the modified Atwood's. The mass that is being stopped is moving in a straight line and the released mass is moving in a straight line. The force direction is changed by the pulley.

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Re: re: energy producing experiments
« Reply #407 on: February 03, 2023, 04:27:51 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-7d66JscI8

Let’s look at the above experiment: 132 grams of spheres stopping and restarting a 1320 gram “cylinder and spheres”. When the spheres have all the motion their speed would be 10 times the speed of the rotating cylinder for Newtonian momentum conservation to be true; and 3.16 (square root of ten) times faster for Kinetic energy conservation. Of course, there is no such think as kinetic energy conservation so that puts your theory in jeopardy right away.
I have done frame by frame evaluations of the experiment and the starting speed for the cylinder is about 1.2 m/sec in rotation. This would be 1.320 kg * 1.2 m/sec = 1.584 kg m/sec. This momentum would need the application of 1.584 N applied for 1 sec. This quantity of force times time is contained in the spheres when they have all the motion; because the spheres can return all the motion back to the cylinder.  So 1.584 N applied to the .132 kg spheres for one second would give the spheres a velocity of: 1.584 N / .132 kg = 12 m/sec.
So 12 m/sec velocity is required for Newtonian Momentum conservation; and 3.797 m/sec (12 / square root of ten) is required for energy conservation.
Some falsely claim that Newtonian Physics does no work in a circle and we do not know the velocity of a wheel: it is always zero. This is totally false and is intended to keep you from knowing the truth.
A wheel or rim has a known mass that can be placed in dry ice. We can apply a known force to the rim for a known time.  F = ma; a = v/t So Ft = mv If we know F, t, and m we can find v.  mv is momentum so we can know the momentum of a wheel. Whoever tells you that we cannot know the momentum of a wheel is simple not telling you the truth.

You should ask yourself what is this person’s motive for telling you we cannot know the Newtonian momentum of a rim or wheel. Maybe it is because he does not want you to know that you can make energy from gravity.